If you venture 17 miles out to sea east off the Angus coast, you’ll find Seagreen, Scotland’s newest and biggest offshore wind farm. A joint venture run by three companies, it boasts 114 giant turbines with a total generating capacity of 1.1 gigawatts (GW). This, its website says, is enough to power more than 1.6 million homes, two-thirds of all the households in Scotland, and is “helping a green economic recovery and supporting high value green jobs”.
However, Seagreen has a problem — one that seems likely to inflict serious damage on Government plans to reduce bills by making Britain a “clean energy superpower” with a net zero electricity system by 2030. As Energy Secretary Ed Miliband today vowed to classify wind turbines as “nationally significant infrastructure projects”, startling facts about Seagreen — buried deep in official data — deserve attention.
Having become fully operational in late 2022, Seagreen generated an impressive quantity of power in the first 10 months of this year, which earned its operators some £70 million. But they were paid almost as much to switch its turbines off – at least £57 million.
The reason for this was simple. Although there were many days when the North Sea wind was blowing steadily, the limited capacity of the power transmission lines across the Scottish border meant Seagreen’s energy could not be supplied to the place where it was needed: England.
Another official dataset shows that Seagreen sold 1.2 million gigawatt hours (GWh) of electricity to the grid. But had it not been asked to disconnect its turbines because of the network’s inadequacies, that figure would have been more than three times higher — 3.7 million GWh. And because Seagreen’s customers still needed their electricity, that in turn meant that energy consumers also had to pay for alternative, fossil-fuel power stations to be switched on in England.
This problem with the high-voltage wires, known as “constraint”, is rapidly getting worse. Scotland’s weather makes it an excellent location to build both onshore and offshore wind farms, but by the end of 2022, the country had already installed renewables with an output capacity of 13.9GW — far more than it will ever need. To apply the same arithmetic as the Seagreen website, 13.9GW would be enough to power more than 20 million homes, about eight times as many as the current Scottish total.
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SubscribeAny system is only as good as its weakest link. Building windfarms in Scotland before capacity to move the electricity south was therefore always at best naïve, at worst a scam.
Miliband and his advisers / civil servants don’t understand science and seem to think you can wish into being the things they want. And NESO are too craven to tell them this cannot happen. Science and engineering are not amendable to political wish lists.
Meanwhile, back in the real world, we are burning vast quantities of gas and wood pellets as it is cold, still and cloudy.
In fact Biden had wind/solar farms built in the west of the USA but people didn’t want pylons. They just sort of gave up.
There are wind farms in the sea around the Welsh coast which have not yet been connected. All of the time they are corroding away and I believe we pay a Norwegian company to maintain them. We even pay that company for the electricity which they don’t generate.
It can be both. Naive on one side, scam on the other.
Most scams are that, in fact. Though of course it’s possible to construct blunders out of pure naivity.
Since the storm, there seems to have been five days of wind drought, with current wind generation at 2 GW.
Luckily, we have gas which is generating 26 GW.
If Ed Milliband’s plans are carried through and implemented, this perfectly normal week in December would have led to massive power cuts, and quite possibly food chains collapsing as freezers are denied power.
“If Miliband’s department turns out to be wrong” !
Surely “when”.
Has Ed Miliband ever been right about anything ?
I note that it’s forecast to take at least 5 years (2030) to build the needed extra transmission capacity from Scotland to England.
Why that long ? I’m sure it took a fraction of that time when the National Grid was originally built. This stuff isn’t rocket science.
I’d put the actual build time at 1 year and the government and regulatory overhead delay at 4 years (and rising every passing year).
You are correct. The delay is the series of arguments. We are short of skilled labour. When the National Grid set up more regular inspection of existing pylons, they tried to recruit in the UK. Nobody was interested so they sent English teachers to foreign countries and recruited from those countries. The crew have to speak English for safety reasons.
Wind energy like nuclear, natural gas ect are finished, something far cheaper is on the way. Tesla was right
How does that work?
A tad gnomic. Pray do tell.
Presumably he means fusion
I went to a cold fusion conference, 35 years ago.
I was a scam.
No, fusion and fission are far too expensive
“… a total generating capacity of 1.1 gigawatts (GW) … enough to power more than 1.6 million homes”. Still not enough to power a De Lorean time machine though.
Chris Bond has done a careful and detailed analysis of the prospects for Net Zero in the “land of sunshine”. The result is expected to be curtailment and brown- or black-outs without fossil power or energy import.
Australia is of course a major exporter of coal to China for burning in their own power stations. But that apparently doesn’t count.
Miliband must be Two-Tier Keir’s illegitimate brother. He’s a tool.
He is wrong, it’s not hard to see the problems
Solar doesn’t work at night, wind doesn’t blow when it’s really cold and the transmission doesn’t exist to supply where it is needed
All this adds up to shortages and power cuts, all to give Ed and his friends huge subsidies that we all have to pay for
It’s just a massive scam to redistribute wealth to the rich
They’ll have to regulate supply with dynamic pricing. Which means compulsory smart meters.
The most expensive form of transmission, undersea cables. Why can’t they just build more pylons, or would that upset the fragile sensibilities of some ?. When the grid was originally built, there were no such qualms: They just got on with it and delivered. Now, “deliverables”, are a complete mystery to this government. Technically illiterate and no concept of a joined up system at all.
I think the undersea cables just take the power to the coast. From then onwards pylons take over. As you say, pylons are everywhere and after a couple of months you just don’t notice them.
I’ve just seen the draft plans.
Millipede intends to erect a pylon in your garden. I’m sure that after a couple of months you won’t notice it.
That’s a bit of an extreme and unlikely example, but in reality, there are safeguards and there is a process. Still, you want a reliable energy system, and all the benefits that it provides, and that we all take for granted, then there are tradeoffs to get there. Windmills or pylons, you choose.
All completely pointless and a colossal waste of money, but someone’s getting rich, no doubt. No wind = no electricity, no matter how many turbines you have.
Hydrogen tech is unproven, it’s volatile fuel to deal with and of course the whole “green hydrogen” process is massively inefficient.
The fundamental problem Milibrain has is physics. You will never generate enough energy to make these “green” power sources self sustaining. All the solar panels, concrete, wind turbines, and other associated infrastructure are made with fossil fuels. A wind turbine will never generate enough energy in its life to make itself, let alone power the country. It’s another Ponzi scheme, like everything the government does.
Oh, and at 0.04% of the atmosphere, CO2 is really not a problem, even if you believe the planet is warming, which itself is questionable given the dodgy data and manipulation used by climate modellers.
Maybe the planet is warming, maybe it isn’t. It depends on the model and the model depends on the writer. The chance that the model is right is about 0.01% I think.
The idea that CO2 is responsible is just a nonsense. The problem is that most people, including the government, don’t understand the science. This is COVID again – the government decides to lock down at unbelievable expense, destroying the life of the next generation. So after the green fiasco there will be an expensive enquiry where Miliband says, “I was just obeying orders. It was the experts who were wrong.” And he will get away with it- scot free.
Building more wind farms off Scotland is bit like mass-producing haggis in Cornwall.