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Peter Thiel makes intellectual case for Christianity
Peter Thiel preaches the gospel at the Cambridge Union last month. Credit: Getty
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Peter Thiel preaches the gospel at the Cambridge Union last month. Credit: Getty
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Subscribe‘Peter Thiel makes intellectual case for Christianity’The 10 commandments are from Judaism, not Christianity.Christianity is more about Jesus returning and sending people to Hell.
Jesus said He did not come to destroy the law but to fulfill it Matt 5:17-18 AND that not one jot shall pass until all is fulfilled. In my humble opinion, all is not fulfilled until He comes again.
Love is patient and kind; love is not jealous or boastful; it is not arrogant or rude. Love does not insist upon its own way; it is not irritable or resentful; it does not rejoice in wrong, but rejoices in the right. Love bears all things, believes all things, endures all things. II Corinthians 14:4
The second [commandment] is this, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself. There is no other commandment greater”. Mark 12:31
The Pharisees brought a woman who had been caught in adultery…and said unto Jesus, “The law of Moses commands us to stone such. What do you say about her?” And Jesus said to them, “Let him who is without sin among you be the first to cast a stone at her.” John 8:3
Finally, whatever is true, whatever is just, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is gracious, if there is any excellence, if there is anything worthy of praise, think about these things. Philippians 4:8
Yeah, mostly Hell and Jesus returning.
Yes, very nice. Strange how the Christian Churches nowadays are all about hatred and intolerance.
Really. The churches where I live assist refugees from Afghanistan and immigrants to the US orient and acclimate to America. I have many Christian physician friends who regularly travel to Latin America and the Caribbean to dispense free medical/surgical care. There are multiple Christian groups in my city that feed and provide shelter and other assistance to homeless people. There are more examples than I have time to cite, but the common factor is that all of what I see Christians contributing is real and tangible as opposed to the virtue signaling of SJWs. I’m sure you can recite the cliche litany of (genuine) evils perpetrated in the name of Christianity, which no doubt informs your smug sense of moral superiority. You are probably too invested in your hatred of Christians to be aware that even Nietzsche traced the genealogy of Western moral values to Judeo-Christianity. If you cannot see those values in the 2000-year-old scriptures quoted above you’re too thick to bother with. And BTW, I am not even Christian. I am agnostic to the core but educated enough to know the provenance of charitable ideas and sophisticated enough to know that no human institution is without a downside. To reject the good in something simply because it comes alloyed to human limitations betrays the shallowness of your intellect. But I forgive you; because that’s what Jesus would do.
You are conflating Christians with Christianity.
According to Revelation (which swears blind it was dictated in part by Jesus Himself), Jesus would often speak of a ‘synagogue of Satan’.
Antisemitic?
No. A Jew criticising other Jews. Internal criticism within the wider community. The Bible is full of it. The accusation of antisemitism in the New Testament is at best anachronistic.
I would be interested to see what all those Christians do if they encounter someone who 1) wants an abortion, 2) wants to avail themselves of voluntary assisted dying, or 3) is gay (shock, horror). I would also be interested in their views as to those tens of thousands (probably hundreds of thousands actually) of Christian clergymen who sexually abuse children. Still, best not to mention them, I suppose….
No, you are not interested. If you were you’d already have read the common responses. You wish to remain ignorant so you can maintain a characatured and hateful view of Christianity.
I go to Church regularly. Never hear about hatred and intolerance. Just prayers, love and faith.
It’s always people like you who never go near the Church who say these things.
Yuck.
2 Corinthians is not by Jesus. It is by Paul who never quotes anything Jesus said and in Romans 5 makes clear that Jesus got what he deserved from the ruling authorities …’ But if you do wrong, be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are God’s servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer.’
And, of course, the story in John 8:3 is not in the earliest manuscripts.
If you want examples of the Jesus character in the Bible indulging in hateful rants, I refer you to Matthew 23 – one of the most vile , spiteful and hate-filled passages ever written.
Sophistry. You are obviously a hater and can only reconcile your sickness by accusing those you hate of being intolerant. In psychology that’s called projection. In the vernacular it’s known as being an asshole.
He’s referring to know-it-all’s like you.
I thought Christianity was more about Hell returning and sending people to Jesus.
Christianity is about the awakening of a living conscience, not about the routine observation of prescribed laws and daily rituals. That’s what makes it entirely different from other religions, even ones it is traditionally linked to.
‘not about the routine observation of prescribed laws and daily rituals’
Apparently, Jesus appeared on Earth to tell us the important message of putting oil on your face. (Matthew 6:17).
A far more important message than ending slavery, obviously….
I think that is in there due to a sponsorship deal with the Brylcreem company.
You seem unable to grasp meaning. The passage is about the dangers of self serving religious displays. There are commentaries on these passages. Google them to avoid embarrassing yourself.
The Anglican service I go to every Sunday begins with the vicar saying:
and he carries on to:
Given that this exact service has been in use since 1662, it seems pretty Christian to me.
I reminded myself of the contents of the Ten Commandments the other day. There were three or four I could agree with. Then again, my neighbour does have a nice ass.
See, there IS a potential loophole. You can’t covet your neighbour’s wife and you can’t covet your neighbour’s ass. But God said nothing about coveting your neighbour’s wife’s ass…
This is like saying birds fly so they can poop on people’s heads.
Christianity and conservatism share the same central insight into human nature: sooner or later, everybody sucks.
Actually christianity is related to the hard left. Both are the product of “the opressed”. For the Left the opressors are the rich/men. For the christianity they are/were the rich romans/the decadent rich.
That’s the Marseillaise not a Soviet anthem. The Tories should really think about a British People’s Republic, however, brought about by PR as well as the disestablishment of the monarchy.