The page dedicated to one editor at a mainstream site — who doesn’t appear to ever have written anything about transgender issues, but has edited pieces James dislikes — not only lists their spouse’s name but is, in fact, one of the spouse’s top Google results. The journalist Helen Lewis, a friend of mine, said that her page initially included photos from her first wedding, which James took from Flickr. When Lewis made the page private, James noted the change. Indeed, she seems to keep a very close eye on how her victims respond to their pages. Many of the entries also include caricatures that James has commissioned, likely at considerable cost, given the sheer number of them. In one of the creepiest cases I found, James commissioned a cartoon of not only my podcast co-host, Katie Herzog, but also her wife, who is unconnected to any of this. UnHerd also has its own page, listing many of its contributors and editors.
Many of the people featured have been deeply disturbed by it. “Does anyone know who runs the TransgenderMap website?” asked Prisha S, a detransitioner, on Twitter. “There are web pages about detransitioners with personal info and hate. The page about me is the longest. Whoever runs it seems to hate me a lot. It’s freaky, honestly. Can anything be done?”
Being featured didn’t really bother me initially. But I did become concerned when I received an upset email from my brother asking why the site was showing up near the top of his search results. It transpires James had compiled the most detailed biography of me that exists on the internet, the vast majority of which had nothing to do with my output on youth gender transition. Bringing my family into her perceived conflict with me crossed what felt like a line that would be obvious to most people. The page included the full names of my mother, my father, both my brothers, and everything she could find about all of our work histories. She even included the date my mother died. While accuracy isn’t James’s strong suit — at one point my page stated I am half-Hindu — it felt like an intimidation tactic: Look how much I know about you.
Recall that one of James’s goals of the Transphobia Project was “get[ting] a few people fired along the way”. The updated version of Transgender Map seems to be operating with very similar motives: the pages seem designed to trigger negative personal and professional repercussions.
“The first time my 11-year-old daughter googled me, this was the first thing that came up,” said Lisa Selin Davis, a friend of mine who has also written at length about gender identity and youth transition. “It includes the names of my children and two family members… It’s designed to silence and humiliate us. I can handle it, but it’s a little heartbreaking to me that my kid had to see this instead of anything else about me.”
Another one of James’s victims is Paul Garcia-Ryan. He is a therapist who trained at a leading gender-affirming clinic in New York City. He is concerned about the quality of care that gender dysphoric youth receive and is seeking to improve it. He recently spoke at the first conference held by the Society for Evidence-Based Gender Medicine (SEGM), a group with similar aims, in New York. (I was in attendance as well.) This alone was enough to rouse James’s ire, and soon Garcia-Ryan discovered his newly published page, which falsely describes him as an “anti-transgender activist” and explicitly instructs any minors who find themselves in his care to break off their therapy with him.
“Efforts to damage the reputations of clinicians creates a chilling effect amongst medical and mental health professionals, deterring them from speaking up, even when their concerns are grounded in legitimate scientific, medical, and ethical considerations,” Garcia-Ryan said in an email. “Clinicians hold an enormous responsibility and thoughtful work with gender dysphoria requires professionals to be courageous and stand firm in their clinical integrity.”
James has targeted a number of other responsible and careful clinicians in the field of youth gender medicine. She has also created a page for Gordon Guyatt, a legend within the field of medical research. He is one of the founders of evidence-based medicine, a (genuinely) lifesaving movement to improve the quality of medical research. Because Guyatt spoke at SEGM, he’s now a transphobe, according to the unerring moral judgment of Andrea James. He is tarred as an “anti-transgender activist” — ironic, given that when I asked him about the claim that questioning the evidence for transgender medicine is itself transphobic, he replied: “You’re doing harm to transgender people if you don’t question the evidence.”
But James’s website is more about rage than reason. Really, all it takes to land oneself on it is to have said something publicly that she disagrees with, or to have associated, in any way, with any institution or any person she dislikes. For example, she has a page dedicated to a European academic — a far-Left trans man who couldn’t be more in favour of trans people’s dignity and right to medically transition — simply because he has published some (rather excellent) work criticising certain mainstream strains of trans activism, including on this website. This is someone who has dedicated years of his life to radical trans activism, and now his second-highest search result in Incognito mode on Google Chrome is a webpage that suggests he is enabling transphobia.
Garcia-Ryan’s page ranks highly if you search his name, too. That’s the whole point: to scare people off talking about this issue. I’m telling you a tiny fraction of the stories I’ve heard from individuals targeted by James, many of whom don’t want to come forward. In short, very little has changed since Alice Dreger published her first long expose of the Michael Bailey affair back in 2008: “Almost universally those who wrote to me [about their run-ins with James] — including sex researchers — asked that I not ever quote them or mention them by name,” she wrote. “They feared being attacked by James, as Bailey and others had been.”
For that reason, and because of my own involvement, I have been deeply conflicted about writing this piece. But it’s a perfect 2023 story, in a way. It epitomises an approach to social justice and to journalism that is so anti-intellectual, and unforgiving that it’s impossible to imagine it making the world a better place. But perhaps most disturbing is that there’s no accountability. No one can control whether they’re included on James’s site. There’s no one to appeal to other than James herself, and she has proved herself time and time again to be unreasonable. (I emailed James about this piece. She sent a brief response, which didn’t address any of my points, and has not commented further.)
But our information ecosystem doesn’t reward reasonableness — it rewards reaction and outrage. And particularly when the subject is social justice, media outlets are all too eager to abdicate their basic responsibilities as guardians of the truth.
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SubscribeI have noticed anecdotally that by far, the most aggressive trans-activists seem to be biological men. It is curious that although they identify as women, their behavior remains quite masculine.
Has anyone else noticed this as well?
Oh yeah, of course.
It is always a dead giveaway.
Yes, very much so.
That was my very first thought, especially on reading that appalling testosterone filled quote – “a c***-starved exhibitionist”.
Same in sport-its almost exclusively biological men “identifying” as women who want to participate in womens sport.Can’t really think of too many examples of biological women identifying as men queuing up to participate in boxing,rugby.tennis,swimming etc etc-how strange!
Occasional women perform in American football, especially in small rural schools, and usually as kickers.
Yes, but they perform as girls, not as male wannabes.
Sarah Taylor the England women’s wicket-keeper-batswoman was at one point suggested as the best keeper in the world of either sex by none other than Adam Gilchrist. She also played a couple of matches in men’s Grade cricket down under without being a disaster but without making much of a contribution. I also remember reading of a female cricketer hitting a century in a male Prem league, maybe somewhere like Norfolk (Prem leagues are basically County second team standard). Fair play to them, and I don’t mind male leagues being open to women who are actually good enough to participate, because – and this is crucial – allowing female participation in male sports is very unlikely to have a significant impact on male competition or male access to sport participation. All that will happen will be that occasional statistical outlier women cricketers will perform adequately alongside male competitors – good luck to those who do!
The same cannot be said of male cricketers participating in female leagues. Statistically speaking, the mean of the respective bell curves for the aggregated and weighted performance indices of players will be significantly higher for men than for women. You would expect the average male seeking to participate in female leagues to be capable of bowling faster and of imparting more spin, and of hitting the ball further. You would expect him to be better even than the star female players. Individual instances of this may not matter too much. The phenomenon becomes problematic if and when it becomes more widespread. It’s not absurd to foresee a time when the female averages are dominated by eight or ten male cricketers, and half a dozen of them end up getting picked for the England women’s cricket team.
I saw a few women’s game at the Oval, including an international and they were pretty good; very skilful. However, the most obvious difference was how much harder and further the ball was hit in the men’s game. It was a quite different order of magnitude. I suspected that the male fast bowlers were far faster but that wasn’t as easy to observe.
I also recall meeting some young England women on a train and I asked them if they would like to play on men’s teams – absolutely not.
It’s more plausible that women could join men’s teams in cricket than most sports; I think of demon female spin bowlers, who might not quite have strength in fingers but have as much guile as any man. Yet, it’s still unlikely even in cricket, there will many women who succeed.
That biological men should play against women is an awful thought. Most troubling being the highly aggressive fast bowler. It shocks me that there are relatively few serious injuries in the men’s game as a consequence of this and I really worry how badly women could be hurt.
In another article on Unherd, published some time ago, some evidence from Sweden was quoted that levels of male aggression remain unchanged after transition
Yes I agree with that except that they aren’t male (or so they say)
This is a very clear, obvious, and frequently-noted phenomena.
Universally bullies.”If you don’t participate in my delusion, you are a bad person”, with an unspoken “and I will do everything in my power to ruin your reputation and possibly get you fired” as a coda.
You speak the truth, Joe, but not the whole truth. And I suspect that this is the case for many of those who agree with you.
These “trans-women” are actually men, okay. That’s biologically irrefutable. But the ones who act like “Andrea” James, I suggest, are seriously disturbed men. Their behavior is far from universal among men. Their hostility toward (and probably envy of) women is due to their own neuroticism, not to male biology. Given the ideological conflict between men and women in our time, someone needs to say that explicitly.
I’ll be more specific. It’s true that men are more aggressive than women. (Women are by no means immune to it, but they express it their own characteristic ways.) It’s true, moreover, that aggression sometimes expresses malevolence. But it can express benevolence, too. Either way, aggression evolved to serve communal needs. No community could endure without it.
While on average men are more aggressive than women, most men are not aggressive
Aggression is not inherently bad, Jonathan, except in common parlance. It can be expressed in both good and bad ways. If men (or women) were not aggressive, we could not have survived as a species. Don’t take it from me. Ask any psychologist.
Quite so. I was supporting your point. It’s so odd to see “women” behaving far more aggressively than I ever behave in advocating for their cause, never mind comparing to women advocating for a female issue.
I find that fierceness the “women” very strange
Thanks for clarifying that, Jonathan. The “fierceness” in women seems strange mainly, I think, because the cultural script for femininity in our society hides it, and the cultural script for masculinity exaggerates it. The degree in each case varies from one time and place to another.
In any case, women characteristically express their aggression as verbal and therefore emotional or intellectual manipulation (although, as we know from studies of domestic violence, physical aggression among women is by no means unknown).
I only see trans men getting attention when they get pregnant or try to make “chestfeeding” a thing. Not seeing them winning Man of The Year much.
*The most aggressive trans-activists seem to be men.
Apologies for the pedantry. Have an upvote.
And yet apologists for trans extremists bristle when critics point to clear evidence that many suffer from obvious mental health issues. Keep on shining the spotlight Jesse (and other writers), it’s the only way to show the community just how insane this toxic ideology has become.
It would certainly be very interesting to find out how many trans rights extremists have something like Histrionic Personality Disorder.
These are the characteristics of HPD from the WHO classification:
shallow and labile affectivity,self-dramatization,theatricality,exaggerated expression of emotions,suggestibility,egocentricity,self-indulgence,lack of consideration for others,easily hurt feelings, and continuous seeking for appreciation, excitement and attention.
This often comes to mind when I see the reactions of trans rights activists to any refusal to accede to their demands. Like when Emily Bridges described British Cycling’s decision to restrict the female category to women as “genocide”.
That description applies to most Wokesters and SJWs.
Were any other political pressure group to use caricatures like those posted on the Transgender Map website, they would be called out for perpetuating racist stereotypes.
So it’s interesting that gender identity ideologists seem to believe that fighting for ‘trans rights’ (the somewhat bowdlerised and misleading banner under which they claim to operate) somehow affords them a free pass to trample the rights of literally anybody else – women, children, homosexuals, Jews, people of colour etc.
The same toxicity shows up in all the radical progressive causes, from race to Israel. No facts, ma’am, just rage.
And when you get two lots of them in opposition to each other you get: terf v trans.
TERF is a derogatory label assigned to people who refuse to go along with the lie that men can be women.
Doesn’t that go for lots of activists of different stripes?
It does, indeed, David. That’s because all of these ideologies, no matter how beguiling their vocabularies might seem, are founded on false underlying assumptions. Among them are that: (a) human life itself is all about power; (b) all humans are innately either powerful oppressors or powerless victims; and (c) the ultimate goal is to reverse this hierarchy by any means necessary.
The militancy of this person and his wrath against others makes very clear that he’s a man, if the giant adam’s apple wasn’t enough of a giveaway. Notice how Kiwifarms, a site with a very similar function to James’, became persona non grata and was temporarily purged from the entire internet for its doxxing. Meanwhile this AGP loon is exalted and worshipped for doing the very same thing. The hypocrisy of trans activists is almost as disturbing as ‘bottom surgery’.
“Andrea James was one of the worst offenders. Her behaviour has been well-documented by the medical historian and bioethicist Alice Dreger, who in a 2006 blog post observed that “Ms. James was notable for the way she decided to go after Bailey’s children to extract revenge. She posted on the internet photographs of Bailey’s daughter and labeled her a ‘c**k-starved exhibitionist.’””
Like the remainder of this piece, this paragraph would benefit from some basic fact-checking and subediting. Namely:
“Andrea James was one of the worst offenders. His behaviour has been well-documented by the medical historian and bioethicist Alice Dreger, who in a 2006 blog post observed that “James was notable for the way he decided to go after Bailey’s children to extract revenge. He posted on the internet photographs of Bailey’s daughter and labeled her a ‘c**k-starved exhibitionist.’””
Having the actual sex of the perpetrator before one’s eyes as one reads – rather than an obsequious fiction – gives the narrative a rather different flavour.
Yes, I agree. Do not enable the delusion by pretending that James is a female. He is a male.
But remember everyone, it’s “not a cult”.
Speaking of cults, everyone should watch Escaping Twin Flames on Netflix. Seriously interesting doc about confused people looking for love and acceptance. One of the side plots is about the cult leader convincing a bunch of lonely women to transition to men. What’s interesting is the producers include all these pro trans messages, even while the movie clearly shows the power of persuasion and coercion that convinces these adult women to transition. While targeting the cult leader, the movie inadvertently illustrates the role of social pressure in the trans movement.
I read about that the other day, possibly here on UnHerd, I can’t remember. I’ll have to watch it as it does sound interesting.
Certainly at the extreme trans right activist end of things, I see absolutely nothing which convinces me it isn’t a cult. Many of the typical characteristics are there:
Absolute belief in some kind of magical thinking which only adherents really understand (e.g. people can change sex)Zero tolerance for dissenting views (e.g. No debate)Conspiracy theories about outsiders (e.g. trans genocide) Separation of the vulnerable from family and friends (e.g. refusal to share teaching materials with parents)Implied or actual violence against perceived opponents (e.g. “If you see a TERF punch her in the face”)Leadership from figures with a history of psychological illness or violent criminal behaviour (I won’t mention specific names to save UnHerd’s lawyers some work checking them, but you can easily look up some of the characters involved)Belief in some form of quasi-religious bodily transformation (e.g. “top surgery”)Apostasy as the ultimate “sin” (e.g. online treatment of people who now regret surgery)
It probably bears repeating that I don’t think all trans people or their supporters are at this extreme end. I’m sure lots of trans people just want to peacefully live their lives presenting to the world as the sex other than they were born. I don’t have an issue with that as far as it goes.
But there’s no question in my mind that there is a large group of trans rights activists who are members of a cult whether they realise it or not.
What’s interesting is the cult isn’t about trans – it’s about finding your perfect mate. But the movement had way too many females and not enough males. To solve this problem, they convinced a bunch of women they were really men and paired them up with female members. A lot of these people were lonely and confused – that’s what attracted them to a cult promoting the perfect mate – but I don’t think any of them were confused about their gender. But through social affirmation and coercion, the cult convinced many of them to change their sex.
Although not everything on your list, R.M., is a defining feature only of cults–conspiracy theories occur in some religions, for instance, and in most or all secular religions (ideologies)–your general point is well taken. Transgenderism might or might not be a cult, but it is definitely a secular religion.
What struck me immediately after reading about it was the notion of some mysterious, vaguely spiritual, transmigrating entity called “gender identity,” which amounts to a soul. And because this soul can be born into the “wrong body,” this doctrine follows a pattern that was set many centuries ago by dualistic theologies such as Manicheism (and from there found its way into some forms of Judaism and Christianity).
I actually don’t think transgenderism is a cult. What is interesting is that adults can be convinced to change their identity through social pressure. Extrapolate this to confused and anxious children growing up in an environment where they are bombarded with positive messages about changing gender. It exposes the myth that gender identity cannot be a social contagion.
Sorry, Jim, I was replying to to R.M. I’ve corrected my comment.
Did you say ‘cult’?
Well this is a totally bizarre story. Sounds like this James person has some severe mental health issues. Far be it from me to suggest a course of action for the author, but she should send this article to every MP in Britain and politician in the US, as well as every sympathetic media outlet. I know someone like Megyn Kelly would love to sink her teeth into something like this.
James sounds disturbed enough to start a page on us all. I agree, this article should be shared far and wide. This level of personal harassment of so many people must be criminal.
That’s what struck me – surely this amounts to stalking? It’s bordering on illegality, although there’s the question of jurisdiction.
This could serve as a test case if it got enough air.
Megan Kelly would be the perfect answer.
So the sign illustrating this article says “TERFs F*** Off.” So much for the “sisterhood.” But of course if you’ve got a p***s under your dress, you’re not really a sister.
Thanks Jesse for covering this so thoroughly. I have the “honour” of a dedicated page on this website, as do quite a few women I know. This kind of obsessive stalking, intimidation, and attempts to cause reputation damage are as horrendous as they are sad. There are some people who are vindictive not only against people who disagree with them, but against reality itself. The idea that institutions would encourage and even celebrate this insanity is just…utterly depressing.
Clearly this person really is non-binary – they are exhibiting all the worst behaviours of both sexes!
The term “cancel culture” is exemplified most clearly by this James fellow. His toxic behavior, and his stated interest in getting people fired, are the most terrible things going on today. When discourse and comments are weaponized to be damaging to employment, personal relationships, and overall functioning, society is damaged overall.
Just looking at the photo that accompanies the article, it would appear that transitioning wasn’t the only surgery at play here. The placard hand seems to have had a thumb removed and a prosthetic finger attached in its place.
I get so tired by the whole debate, and the invective against TERFs, that my mind wanders and I’m left wondering, “Should a downtrodden working class, trans-exclusionary radical feminist be described as Serf-n-Terf?”
Well done! I’ve been trying to make that joke work for ages!
Enlightening article but so jarring to keep reading ‘she’ when we all know it’s ‘he’. If that wasn’t enough, he is also referred to as a woman. At least could have written trans woman.
When a person makes a decision that is terribly and irreversibly wrong, there are 2 responses:
1) They acknowledge the wrongness and correct it
2) They double down and become rage-filled and far more emphatic about the correctness of the decision
For men deluded into the female persona (MDITFP), it becomes clear after a time that the decision to pretend to be a woman was very very wrong. Since MDITFP retain male aggressiveness and rage, the response is often the second, doubling down and showing rage. This is partially due to the FACT that some decisions (surgical) cannot be corrected. Many stories about “when I came to after the surgery, I knew that I had made a terrible mistake”.
Putting on the pretense of the other sex changes nothing in the person. Your sex is determined at conception, and never changes.
To the editor: Mr. Singal chooses to use “she” and “her” to refer to the male subject of this article. That is Mr. Singal’s right. It is the editor’s job to ensure articles do not mislead or misinform readers. To that end, it would be helpful in the future for Unherd to include an editor’s note either ahead of or at the end of the article clarifying that James is male.
This MAN seems to have some serious mental health issues. As for TERF, I am a proud TERF – ie Tired of Explaining Reality to Fuckwits!
Note to self… in this group, wearing a pink, wide-gauge mesh leotard will confer celebrity status on me.
Why do you say “she”? I don’t like to use the wrong pronouns but if a trans person is friendly, pleasant and decent, I can easily stretch a point but this man is a t@sser. Not worthy of this.
I am not s psychiatrist, just a family practitioner, but the description of that lady’s behaviour is suggestive of fairly severe mental health issues, probably borderline personality disorder (BPD)
Not a lady.
You mean “that man’s” behaviour.
On the photo accompanying this article, I was struck by the image of the young man wearing a pink fishnet bodysuit (don’t even know what to call that article of clothing if it qualifies as one) and his white pants low over his hips. Another image was the young girl on the right with black triangles covering her bare breasts. These young people were aiming for a very sexual image, and it hit me that for a very great many people, life has become completely sexualised. Sex and all its accompanying fantasies has become a core of their lives and identities. Porn is widely accessible online and the fantasies and fetishes it offers is extremely deviant – sex with kids, with animals, sexual slavery. I don’t know which is the chicken and which the egg, but there is much porn describing sexual fantasies with people with both sexual organs. I wonder how much this is fueled by, or fueling, the current gender fluidity movement. I could be wrong, but the way some of the people chose to present themselves on the photo made me wonder how much this trans movement is actually a result of the hypersexualisation of society. It doesn’t seem to me that this is about the freedom to live a ‘normal’ life after sex changes, but rather, the freedom to indulge in their sexual fantasies. In fact, there already are attempts to ‘normalize’ pedophilia and bestiality. I could say this is nothing new. Caligula comes to mind and the Marquis de Sade, but then it was limited to a clique of ‘privileged’ people. Now it is mass circulated and available to anyone 24/7. The ferocity of the movement’s proponents, as cited in this article, is very akin to the energy of the sexual aggression in most porn nowadays. That phrase used by James “c**k starved exhibitionist” is a dead giveaway.
But when you make sex the core of identity, it is then carrying a burden it was never designed to.
And staggering under all that weight, it ceases to be fun.
When you see someone like this on apps like Grindr, you just scan their profile and always conclude ‘wow, that looks like way too much work.’
Others conclude the same.
The individual’s profile becomes more charged, more bitter, more betrayed-sounding, the longer they stay on the app.
He sounds like a horrible man.
Gosh, when a man hates women so much he decides to become a caricature of the female sex just so he can mock them even further while justifying his hatred of them (and those that defend them) as a virtue! What a world we live in!
Half-Hindu? Is that a thing?
Lower half?
Reading the definition of terf, I think it could be an honour like “barrel rider”.
The three genders: Male. Female. Wannabes.
Wow, these trans people are really crazy.
Well, that took me an inordinately long time to read, that’s what happens when performing mental gymnastics. Every she, her, herself I changed to the more accurate he, him, himself. It really helped with the stalking narrative, very male indeed!
If they have a p***s they are not real Trans- they are men trying to scare women
The word “p***s” is not a naughty word or a forbidden word. It need not be disguised. But now I see that the dumbass bozos at Unherd auto-disguise this biological term.
Ha ha. Yes, I actually spent a moment trying to figure out what the censored word was.
Some people are just evil.
There is always the risk of confronting someone like James, but from what I gather from this article (and others), James has already pushed the boundaries. Seems to me that there are any number of legal actions one might take, including intentional interference in business relations, intentional infliction of emotional distress, much less defamation/libel/slander, or any number of ‘stalking’-type causes of action. If enough individuals who have been targeted take action, it might turn the tide.
“From some trans activists’ points of view, it is settled science that youth gender medicine works — indeed, saves lives. To suggest otherwise is heresy.”
They are of course completely wrong – and the very use of the word ‘heresy’ reveals that dogma is at the root of this ideology. Just like religion. And cults.
What a sorry story of vitriol & vindictiveness this is. Andrea James is filled with rage & resentment, and should be referred to correctly as ‘he’. Why does Jesse Singal say ‘she’? It’s baffling. There is no need for anyone to participate in this grammatical lie just to appease the need of TIMs for universal validation. He is a man.
In any case, ‘transgenderism’ is a meaningless term. It refers to a phenomenon that millions live by all the time – it’s called being gender neutral. Notice the term ‘transsexual’ has disappeared… that’s because TRAs know very well that no human can change sex, so they’ve slyly moved the goalposts & changed the word. They want their fetish to be recognised & SEEN.
Dr Az Hakeem’s books ‘Trans’ & ‘Detrans’ are superb on this subject. He is a consultant psychiatrist with extensive knowledge & experience of ‘gender’ & its continuing fallout. I recommend them to anyone seeking clarification on this overwrought subject.
Just a thank you for for being courageous enough to record this case study. It may highlight the ‘pathological’ nature of these activists, as it traces the patterns of their bad behavior and distorted mindset; but it also highlights the moderation and carefulness of well balanced commentators and encourages others to stand firm, to speak out, and not to be cowed by harassment.
Why does the article refer to AJ as “she”?
What is all this “she” crap?
Transgender Map on ‘faith’ is priceless https://www.transgendermap.com/social/faith/ It uses Biblical quotes and everything
Really informative and definitely disturbing article about a very toxic man.
I really do not understand why Jesse refers to James as a woman and uses female pronouns. It is offensive to those of us who are actual adult human females.
While reading, I was a bit confused about how this is relevant to 2023. Given your recent attendance at SEGM and mentioning Gordon Guyatt on the Blocked & Reported podcast, perhaps the topic of Andrea James came back up because so many people you’re in contact with are featured on the site?
Anyway, I’m glad you write for other publications than just your own substack and B&R. I’m rather irked at the horrible quality of the comments here; they give credence to people who we imagine would say “Publication X is a transphobic publication!” based on the comments on articles. It’s so frustrating to see people screeching anti-trans invective in comments on the topic because it delegitimizes criticism of trans activism. Alas, I’ve been spoiled by the B&R substack comments.
Isn’t that this whole debate in a nutshell. One side provokes the other. Then when they get a reaction they scream blue murder. Then there’s a counter strike, and on it goes, endlessly. Both sides as bad as each other.
“Both sides as bad as each other.”
I don’t know about that, David. People on both sides might resort to retaliation, now and then, but only those on one side have tried to turn society upside-down (causing much harm) in order to show compassion (which often amounts to virtue-signaling) for a tiny minority of the population (who deserve real compassion, not cosmetic surgery that amounts to mutilation). Only one side makes sense scientifically, moreover, and therefore has no need for lies.
No, one side lives a lie, the other refuses to on this particular point. There’s no real comparison.