'When Catholics speak of dogma, they are talking about what they regard as truth. This is not so in the world of Donald Trump.' Photo: Maurix/Getty.

Two dogmatic world leaders have been much in the news recently: the infallible Pope Francis and the supremely arrogant President Trump.
Trump’s dust-up in the Oval Office, along much of his behaviour this past week, was the perfect demonstration of the United States’s attitude to that disreputable place known as Abroad. A lot of Americans don’t really like “Abroad”, including some of those who actually set foot there, largely because it isn’t America. Not many of them would be able to locate Ukraine on a map; some might even have trouble locating Canada. Trump doesn’t like Abroad either, and has broken with the tradition that as President he’s supposed to have its concerns at heart.
The paradox is that the United States is the most globalised nation in the world and also one of the most parochial. These two aspects of it are, in fact, related. For one thing, the larger a country is, the less it has to rely on others and the more self-enclosed it becomes. For another thing, a country which sees the rest of the world primarily in terms of power and profit isn’t likely to be on familiar terms with its culture and history. The same used to apply to the British Empire, ruled by one of the most insular nations on earth for whom Johnny Foreigner was to be mocked as well as subjugated. It was the great Edmund Burke who reminded these provincially-minded bigots that colonies were to be governed only through an understanding of their ways of life.
In Trump’s eyes, the president of Ukraine is Abroad incarnate. Unlike the unstaunchably eloquent, rhetorically dazzling US President, he can’t speak English properly, doesn’t wear proper clothes, is about half the size of your average American jock, doesn’t grovel at the feet of the powerful and is always on the scrounge. He also stems from an ethnic background about which the Orange Lord may not be overly enthusiastic. So it’s time to stop pretending that America has some God-given mission to save the world, not least when it’s costing you billions of dollars. Nation-states are businesses, not spiritual entities. Trump wants Zelensky’s mineral resources, not his allegiance in the fight for civilisation. Ideology must give way to self-interest, bullshit about altruism to the bottom line. The world is divided into winners and losers, not autocrats and democrats, and nobody looks more like a loser than Zelensky. Moreover, he’s losing at the hands of a man whom Trump admires as a fellow member of the Big Boys’ club.
This is truly a dramatic move. America now has a president who has no time for the sham piety spouted by so many of his predecessors. There was always an embarrassing gap between American talk about liberty, democracy, the city on the hill and the infinite Spirit of Man on the one hand, and screwing over weaker peoples blessed with extractable natural resources on the other. Few, however, have had the audacity to eliminate the gap by abolishing the bullshit. Edmund Burke, naturally enough, saw political power as masculine; but he also saw that in order to be effective it must wrap itself in the seductive garb of the feminine, tempering its coerciveness with grace, beauty, compassion and so on. The aesthetic must come to the aid of the political. In Burke’s view, the French Revolution had stripped those beguiling veils away, laying bare the ugly phallus of power; and President Trump, who is apparently not averse to phallic exposure, has done the same in our own day by dispensing with high-toned talk of the spirit of humanity and the value of civilisation.
That other world leader, the infallable Pope Francis, has been in the news because he has been ill, not because he bullied, harangued and insulted a guest before an astonished world. In fact, from what one hears about him he’s a courteous, congenial character, if given to the odd burst of obscenity. A friend of mine used to be Master General of the English Dominican Order, and was invited by the Pope to his private apartment for coffee. Pointing to the stunning view of the city from his window, the pontiff remarked in his heavily accented English: “This is the best view of Rome there is — and that’s infallible.” It’s hard to imagine Trump being ironic about his authority, or simply being ironic.
There is, however, a logical problem about being infallible, which one can formulate as follows. When the papacy first promulgated the doctrine in the 19th century, was this declaration itself infallible? Or was the Pope’s infallibility initiated at that point? If it was, however, why should anyone believe it? Declaring yourself infallible only has real force if you’re infallible already. If you are, however, why bother to declare it? Didn’t everyone know already?
We have here a case of how far back one has to go to explain something. Take the way one might inform a small child about the names of various objects. You point to a carrot and say “carrot”, and the child grasps the fact that the sound you make is the name of the thing you’re pointing to. But this, as Ludwig Wittgenstein argues, can’t possibly be how children learn language. For this to work, the child must already know a great deal: that there are individual objects, that these things have names, that these names are generic and not individual, that to point your finger at something is to single it out, that the sound you make when you point denotes the thing in question and so on. For the child to know all of this it must already live in a world of meaning. Meaning, in other words, is very hard to get behind; or rather, what you tend to find when you get behind it is yet more meaning. For Wittgenstein at least, meaning is inseparable from language. So the child to whom you’re trying to teach language must have a grasp of it already, rather as declaring yourself to be infallible only has force if you’re infallible already. You must be describing a situation which already exists, not just legislating one into existence. Otherwise it’s a purely arbitrary act, like announcing that you’re a humanitarian when everyone knows that you’re a serial killer.
Another example of how far back one can push things is the so-called social contract. According to this theory, first propounded by Hobbes, Locke and Rousseau, political society is founded by men and women surrendering some of their individual freedom in order to enter into social relations with each other which will ensure their common safety and prosperity. In this way, a bunch of lawless, ruthlessly self-interested individuals with no regard for each other’s welfare is transformed into a commonwealth of shared authority and mutual responsibility. But mustn’t these supposedly uncivilised individuals already have possessed the concepts of contract, sovereignty, responsibility and the rest if this transition could come about? How can you enter into a contract if you don’t already have the concept of a contract?
The doctrine of papal infallibility is much misunderstood. It doesn’t mean that if the Pope announces that Stephen Fry is an alien from Alpha Centauri, all Catholics have to believe it without question. It’s restricted to matters of faith and morals, and rather than pronouncing some new truth, its point is to clarify and define doctrines which the Church has supposedly always held. The Pope exercises this authority not individually but on behalf of the bishops as a whole, and does so extremely rarely, even though he’s known for being infallible rather as Liz Truss is known for not being so. One of the most disastrous papal proclamations of recent times — the ban on contraception — was not infallible. Like most things about the papacy, the doctrine has its roots in the murky political conflicts of 19th century Italy. It belongs to a Church which long ago sold part of its soul for worldly power, a betrayal which is a particular scandal to anyone familiar with the first chapter of St Luke’s gospel.
To say that a statement is scientific is to say, among other things, that it could be wrong. You must have some idea of what sort of evidence, argument or set of logical moves would count against it, which is not true of statements like “Thou still unravished bride of quietness”, or “Drop the gun now!” Even so, the world is full of statements which are effectively infallible, in the sense that it would be hard if not impossible to see how any rational creature could deny them. It’s obvious how someone could deny the claim that Trump is supremely arrogant, but not how they could refute the proposition that one has a body.
So infallibility is no big deal. It only seems so to people for whom certainty is equivalent to dogmatism, which includes most postmodern thinkers. In such a climate, having convictions is as bad as having typhoid. But you can have convictions without thumping the table to lend them force. In ancient Greek, the word “dogma” simply means “opinion”. You can argue for your beliefs as passionately as you like provided you’re prepared to give them up when confronted with convincing evidence to the contrary.
When Catholics speak of dogma, they are talking about what they regard as truth. This is not so in the world of Donald Trump. What we see in the White House is neither dogmatic truth, nor truth without dogmatism, but dogmatism without truth. Trump is a vulgar Nietzschean for whom truth is whatever promotes his own or his nation’s interests; but since the things that do this aren’t always compatible with each other, or don’t stay the same from one moment to the next, the President tends to hold mutually contradictory positions, and holds each of them in dogmatic style. He moves in a relativist way from one absolute to another.
When a spokesman for the Catholic Church was asked some years ago what would happen to its authority if it changed its teaching on contraception, he replied that nothing would happen to it at all. Instead, he explained, the Church would have moved from one state of certainty to another state of certainty. It’s not beyond question that in some months’ time, when someone asks Trump why he called Zelensky ungrateful and disrespectful, he will reply, wide-eyed, “Did I say that?”
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Eagleton must be on academic leave or retired to be grinding out his sausages with such regularity. I don’t understand the soft spot UnHerd has for this windy character.
Oh no, you’re missing the point! Seeing this article’s headline in the email newsletter “What the Pope could teach Trump about Truth… By Terry Eagleton” filled my morning uproarious laughter! Its like a set up to a joke which is so good that it serves as its own punchline!
I eagerly await the opportunity to read people who think they are so smart that they willingly present their parochialism to the world.
Trolls of the world need their say.
There’s a couple of things here that, clickbait as they may be, I can’t ignore.
One, if you are making a scientific statement, you are articulating some knowledge that has been arrived at through the scientific method, and which has been examined thereby and found to be consistent with other things we know. (There being a big difference between this and being a grifting scientist or public servant bluffing your way onwards and upwards through COVID, but I digress…)
This type of knowledge lies outside the scope of faith in God, morality or ethics, which is where a religious leader’s knowledge resides.
Two, inasmuch as the Pope as leader of the Catholic faith, the would-be bedrock belief of his civilisation, has as a raison d’etre the moral and spiritual health, and with it the success and survival of that civilisation, of the nations, tribes and peoples within it, to blithely claim that the ban on contraception is disastrous, and proof that he’s fallible, is utterly unserious. Given later insinuations that Trump is supremely arrogant from the same author, it’s also breathtakingly lacking in self-awareness.
With birth rates among those the Pope would historically have considered his flock in decline, unlike those among what would have to be considered to be historically a competitor flock, which now looks to be winning the numbers game even in Europe, that someone in his position would be opposed to contraception is not wrong to the extent that it’s obvious definitive proof of his fallibility.
Personally, I’m in favour of contraception, and I’m not a Catholic, and I don’t think the Pope is infallible. But I do find it irritating when a set of opinions or beliefs is just thrown together as a pseudo-argument, and to cap it all there are swipes at someone else for ‘dogmatism without truth’ . There’s a whole lot of hypocrisy in this article.
“ There’s a whole lot of hypocrisy in this article”
True! It’s also rather rambling and disjointed.
Feels like I’ve read this same essay about 20 times in the last week in a variety of different publications. I got about halfway through and gave up from exhaustion.
Same here, I decided not to slog through the middle parts. But the key distinction of this piece from others critical of Trump is its use of the Pope as a comparison. This Pope, who many Catholics despise and find disingenuous, is really not the best support for Terry’s argument. I’d even say they are two of a piece.
It’s an attempt at divide and conquer.
One thing Trump is not is dogmatic.
e.g.- A lot of the address to Congress was just deliberately for the purpose of shit-talking to Democrats
Something that Dems in their insular humourless hubris can’t really understand.
The stuff Trump mentioned in his address – e.g. that his presidency is the best on record, with George Washington languishing in second place, is just nonsense trolling for the benefit of Dems – not a tyrannical dogma which is going to be taught in schools.
(If you want dogma look to the other side)
“Not many of them would be able to locate Ukraine on a map; some might even have trouble locating Canada“. I saw a Youtube clip by a Canadian comedian, who said that the US would never be able to invade Canada. His reasoning was that everyone in the US military came through the US public school system, and would thus never be able to find Canada on a map. He said the US would invade, and then spend a lot of time wondering why Canada contained a lot more taco stands than expected.
Poor old Terry. His hatred of Trump and democracy is so severe that he promotes a paedophile protector.
It’s “any port in a storm” for poor old Terry and his ilk.
Eagleton writing an article with the word truth in the title, to borrow Tom Lehrer surely the death of satire.
Black isn’t white and white isn’t black. Grey can be both black and white as well as a colour of its own, or it can be neither. It’s a feeling as well as colour, or is it.
The author could have saved most of his time writing this concatenation of words and ours in reading it if he simply asked: is Trump neurodiverse in some way as yet unclassified?
Trump’s evident incapacity to understand the import of what happens to him in the way most others would may be an indication of this.
An interesting campaign line. If you are woke you should have voted for Trump because he is neurodivergent and needs support rather than condemnation.
Enjoyed that. Nice one Tel.
As an aside, before he became v unwell Francis had, diplomatically in Papal tones, admonished JD Vance for his own interpretations of catholic teaching gently reminding him of the parable of the Good Samaritan. That was v informative. JD responded recognising he remained a ‘baby catholic’ with much to learn.
JD and Trump probably been fortunate Francis so unwell last few weeks.
Agreed, thought it was his best piece that I have read. Clearly we are in the minority though.
I don’t like Vance, but in terms of Catholic doctrine, he was right and the Pope was wrong. The idea that you don’t have a higher duty of care towards your family and friends is absurd on the face of it.
This goes back to St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas.
You do have such a duty. To set a moral example and always remember the parable of the GS. That example sustains what makes us human rather than just another mammal procreating and protecting it’s DNA. And that is what the Pope was pointing out. JD got a way to go.
You have a duty to help the stranger if he is in dire straits, and you can help him without neglecting your other responsibilities. To let your own children go hungry in order to feed a stranger would be a grossly immoral act. The imminent arrival of social services to take your child away should make that very clear.
Knowing now these “truths” about both Trump and the popes — that both can move from one “certainty” to the next—how should we view their pronouncements? Do they conform to any transcendent truth by which we can assess their validity? Or do we just notice once again how things change in reference to the past?
Really dubious about the author’s claim that Britain is (or was) one of the most insular nations on earth. In the literal sense of being an island certainly. In cultural, historic and trading terms, I think the opposite is true.
I think his thesaurus wrote that.
Until say the Industrial Revolution England was widely considered a western version of China ie unchanging in its nature, views and tastes. Dickens (eg ‘A Tale of Two Cities’) mentions this a lot, as do foreign visitors writing about England.
A composite rant against Trump with zero content. Rubbish
I enjoy seeing another Terry Eagleton essay on UnHerd. I never read them beyond the first paragraph these days, because they are always so predictably out of touch with the real world, but I love the comments.
This one’s not bad.
This is truly a golden age for psychologists, counselors, and others in the mental health profession. So many people who have become unmoored from reality by one man’s presence. After four years of the serial fabulist Joe Biden, we’re back to the talking point of Trump and his penchant for exaggeration.
Sorry, Unherd, but Eagleton’s sophomoric bloviating has become a real stain on your website’s reputation. With each of his interminable, unreasoned rants, your standards slip a bit more.
exactly. how on earth does he get published? it gets worse and worse. he almost has formal thought disorder.
Eagleton’s irritating idiocy along with an increasing plethora of other bad writers (independent of whether or not I agree with them) is the reason I cancelled my subscription to Unherd. Runs out in June.
You need to try to follow the thought processes of those with whom you disagree or even hold to be despicable. Sorry if that sounds pious, but the point of UnHerd is NOT to be an echo chamber.
Raising the blood pressure every now and then can be cathartic!
I do, often enough. Thats why I added the parenthetical. Its not that I disagree with him, its that his points are old, tiresome, repetitive, and frequently vacuous. Worst of all, they are entirely predictable. They contain no new information.
This one isn’t bad.
I see Trump make plenty of ironic comments in his frequent exchanges with the media as he signed documents in the Oval Office, and before that he often dropped some irony in his rallies.
OTOH I have never seen or heard Francis acknowledge that he was elected by a conspiracy that acted contrary to longstanding Church norms, or that he has repeatedly excused and supported known pedophiles whose Church politics align with his own.
Eagleton really is a disgrace.
As a roman catholic, I am fed up with marxists of all stripes quoting the pope and or using him as a standard. Unless you follow Christ and the Church, you have no business holding anyone to any catholic standard.
Catholic standards include going to the Holy Mass. Do you go to the Mass , Mr Eagleton ?
Trump may have his shortfalls, but people who oppose him because he was elected to enact a political platform they oppose have no legitimacy when complaining about his behaviour. Sorry lefty nutty, you don’t get a say on Trump’s politics, and your rant about “lack of decorum” fools no one.
Trump didn’t set Zelensky up he put the little coke head in his place.
You can’t have the leader of the most corrupt country on Earth tell the Pres and VP how they are going to deal with Russia and on what terms in front of the worlds press.
Zelensky shouldn’t have allowed the Azov brigade to murder 15,000 mainly women and kids in 8 years. He smirked in 2019 that his ‘friends’ had got v good at shelling cities in the east. Zelensky (aided by the western deep state) broke Minsk and brought all this on themselves.
They should have signed the peace agreement in 2022. It was very fair. Now Ukraine is finished. What a sad waste.
As for the Pope … is this the same guy who said “well, if someone insults your mother they can expect a punch in the nose” as an analogy (and justification) for the machine gunning of the entire editorial team of Charlie Hebro?
The comments here are the only thing that make the article itself worthwhile.
I was amused, and entertained. Job done
Professor Eagleton:
There was a time when you used to wrestle a bit with words before putting them on the page. Remember those days? What happened?
Just because you can type doesn’t mean you always should.
A Reader
My favourite laugh-out-loud moment- and our Terry is always good for a few – is the standard “Americans are so dumb” lime that starts with them not liking “Abroad” and ends with them not being able to identify Ukraine on a map.
And yet somehow, Terry and his smug leftists mates, after a lifetime of insisting on the exact opposite, now insist that those dumb Americans have a strategic interest and a duty to pay for the defence.of that place they apparently can’t identify.
Could it be, just maybe, that UnHerd has given time, space and money to a proud bigot?
The Pope and telling the truth! At least I was able to have my morning chuckle when reading this shill pap. Mr. Eagelton has become irrelevant and brings nothing, absolutely, nothing to any discussion. It is the same tired diatribes and has become a virtual car alarm that no one pays attention to. Unherd, please bring in someone that actually is relevant for this new vibe that the U.S. and the world is starting to experience.
Not sure I got the point of this. Perhaps it was to demonstrate that the writer was infallible in his opinions, if not in spelling the word “infallible”.
The Church’s teaching on contraception is, in point of fact, understood to be infallible. It belongs to the ordinary magesterium which, being unanimous, universal, and unambiguous for two thousands years, is the ordinary means of infallible teaching.
Did I mean that when I said that or did you mean that when I said that!
The subjectivity of interpersonal meaning!
Rhetoric
* the art of effective or persuasive speaking or writing, especially the exploitation of figures of speech and other compositional techniques.
“he is using a common figure of rhetoric, hyperbole”
* language designed to have a persuasive or impressive effect, but which is often regarded as lacking in sincerity or meaningful content.
Infallibility and dogmatic certainty = category errors from a rhetorical point of view = logical fallacies = soft bigotry.
Populist rhetoric versus anti-populist rhetoric.
Which type of rhetoric, populist or anti-populist considers itself infallible with dogmatic certainty?
Which type of rhetoric, populist or anti-populist, deploys logical fallacies and soft bigotry?
When is peace not peace and when is war not war?
When the democratic and human rights of the Russian speaking population of east Ukraine are not considered ‘just rights’ by the infallible rights loving liberal internationalists.
What is a ‘just right’?
Go back to start ⬆️
Mr. Eagleton is totally irrelevant and so are his hit pieces. Time, events, and a perceptible change is in the air. Being totally out of touch is actually very sad. We need a new point of view from some other author that can rise above emotion and uber partisanship and apply some level of critical thinking. Even if I or other folks disagree. These diatribes from Mr. Eagleton are getting very, very old and quite annoying.
Nation states are much more than businesses, as Trump well knows, but that is not to say he is sentimental or hypocritical. He is neither, which, broadly speaking, is to his credit. Papal infallibility is essentially the same as collective Cabinet responsibility.