'The verdicts against her are beginning to look distinctly unsafe.' Getty
Late on 17 February, a document briefly appeared on the website of Lady Justice Thirwall’s public inquiry into the Lucy Letby murders. By morning it had vanished.
UnHerd can now reveal that this was a statement to police by Dr Astha Soni, a paediatrician at the neonatal unit where Letby worked. And it raises serious doubts about the claims that Letby attempted to murder two babies by poisoning them with insulin. Yet the document was not disclosed to the defence before her first trial began, nor during her unsuccessful bid to appeal. Furthermore, we have discovered a second critical omission, involving the outbreak of a dangerous virus in Letby’s neo-natal ward.
As Thirlwall’s inquiry proceeds, troubling concerns over Letby’s seven convictions for murder and eight for attempted murder — she is now serving 15 whole life sentences — have only swelled. The UK-based consultant neonatologists Svilena Dimitrova and Neil Aiton have submitted detailed reports on three of the babies’ deaths that refute the evidence given at Letby’s trial, and a separate panel of international experts led by Canadian neonatologist Professor Shoo Lee concluded last month there was “no medical evidence to support malfeasance” in the deaths Letby was convicted of causing. Their assessment: the babies died from “either natural causes or bad medical care”. It all points to a troubling question: is Lucy Letby truly guilty beyond reasonable doubt?
Dr Soni’s secret, undisclosed police statement concerns “Baby Y” — born just after midnight on 2 November 2015, some months into the rise in neonatal mortality at the Chester unit that the police were investigating. Letby was never formally accused of trying to harm him, but the prosecution experts who gave evidence at her trial believed she poisoned him with insulin, just as she did Baby F and Baby L, whom she was convicted of trying to murder. Since Soni’s statement undermines that analysis, it raises worrying questions about the experts’ evidence in those other cases.
Baby Y was a big baby, born two weeks after his due date following a long and difficult labour. He was finally delivered by an emergency caesarean, and transferred to the hospital’s neonatal unit early on 3 November. This happened, Soni said in her statement, after the baby experienced “dusky episodes”, struggling to breathe and turning blue. In the second of these episodes, Soni told police, the baby was not only blue but unconscious, with “his eyes rolled up” and his torso “floppy”. Once on the unit, he was given oxygen, but “didn’t pick up straightaway”. Half an hour later, Baby Y suffered what Soni called a “seizure” — turning blue and making “no respiratory effort”.
When Dr Soni saw the baby again later that night, she said, he was hypoglycaemic. Despite increasing doses of dextrose, his blood sugar level remained stubbornly low. His diagnosis, Soni said, was “congenital hyperinsulinism” or CHI, a genetic condition in which babies produce excess insulin. This diagnosis was supported by endocrine experts at Alder Hey hospital in Liverpool whom the Chester doctors consulted, the statement went on. It is also possible, say neonatal experts who spoke to UnHerd, that he was suffering from “transient hyperinsulinism”, a non-genetic, common condition with natural causes whose symptoms would have been identical. After more seizures Baby Y was given several drugs and slowly improved, but outpatient treatment for “persistent hypoglycaemia associated with seizures” had to be continued for over seven months.
Medical experts for the Letby prosecution saw it differently. In a statement to police in 2021, seen by UnHerd, Professor Peter Hindmarsh of University College London, who was called as an expert witness by the prosecution over the cases of Baby F and Baby L, commented on a test on a blood sample taken from Baby Y on 3 November. It showed that while the boy’s insulin level was high, the concentration of C-peptide, a substance produced in tandem with insulin, in his blood was low. According to Hindmarsh, this meant Baby Y’s hypoglycaemia must have been caused by “exogenous” insulin administered by someone in the neonatal unit.
Other prosecution experts agreed. Dewi Evans, the retired paediatrician who had played a central role in the police inquiry and also gave evidence in respect of most of the babies Letby was convicted of harming, also reviewed Baby Y’s medical records. He told police in a statement that he thought his first three seizures had been caused not by CHI, but the “trauma” of his difficult birth, agreeing with Hindmarsh that he had later been given “insulin from an external source”. A third prosecution expert, Dr Sandie Bohin, backed this position too.
However, we spoke to two practising neonatal consultants who say all Baby Y’s “dusky episodes” and seizures could have been caused by naturally occurring hyperinsulinism, either transient or CHI — which, they say, is far more common than the prosecution experts appeared to believe. They say what matters most is that Baby Y had a confirmed diagnosis of CHI and still needed treatment long after leaving the Chester unit.
Shoo Lee’s expert panel has come to a similar conclusion. Its summary report, now being examined by the Criminal Cases Review Commission (CCRC), says naturally-occurring hypoglycaemia affects up to 40% of newborn babies, and that the relative levels of insulin and C-peptide seen in babies F, L and Y are also “not uncommon”. The timeline here is important too, because Baby Y’s first three seizures all took place before Letby ever encountered him.
If Soni’s statement had been given to Letby’s defence team, they might have called her as a witness — and explored why she thought Baby Y was suffering from CHI rather than a deliberate insulin overdose. That, in turn, might have enabled them to question the conclusions reached by the prosecution experts around babies F and L. In those cases, too, they claimed that the combination of high insulin and low C-peptide levels pointed to deliberate insulin poisoning.
We asked the Crown Prosecution Service why it failed to disclose Soni’s statement, but it refused to answer, stating only that Letby had been convicted and had lost her appeal. But its former chief, Lord Ken Macdonald KC, suggests the statement should likely have been shared. “The legal test is whether evidence is capable either of undermining the prosecution case or assisting the defence, and if it is, it should be disclosed before trial,” Macdonald says. “It sounds to me that the material you’ve found does meet that standard, and so should have been made available to Letby’s defence.”
Beyond the questions around Soni’s deleted statement, our investigation has uncovered a second key omission. Neither of the juries in Letby’s two trials was informed that a dangerous respiratory syncytial virus (RSV) outbreak was ravaging the neo-natal ward. This breakout was so severe that it forced the unit’s closure to new admissions — on 18 February 2016, the day after Baby K, one of the babies Letby was convicted of trying to murder, was moved from Chester to another hospital, where she later died.
This is despite the fact that staff at the hospital were clearly concerned about the outbreak. UnHerd has seen a police statement by Dr Bohin, dated 2021, which refers to a “management synopsis report” on the virus, a spreadsheet listing all the babies who contracted it, along with references to several similar documents about the outbreak.
Until the eve of her first trial, Letby was charged with both murdering and attempting to murder Baby K, but the prosecution asked the judge to remove the murder count from the indictment so that she was tried only for attempted murder. It was confident Letby had dislodged the child’s breathing tube — but, to quote the prosecution counsel, “we cannot and do not say” that what she did caused the girl’s death. He did not mention the virus sweeping through the neonatal unit when Baby K was born. For her part, Bohin made the dangers of RSV clear. “Its effects are usually mild, but in preterm infants RSV is responsible for significant mortality and morbidity,” she told police in a statement. “The virus is spread easily and can live for prolonged periods on hands and hard surfaces. There is no cure.” Baby K’s medical records do not say whether she was tested for RSV, but she had been in respiratory distress, and if she did contract the virus at Chester, it may have contributed to her death.
Meanwhile Shoo Lee’s expert panel is sceptical of the prosecution’s argument that Letby tried to kill Baby K by dislodging her breathing tube, suggesting instead that the hospital had used the wrong size tube, causing air to leak.
Beyond the medical questions here, these documents could have implications for Letby’s future. The CCRC and the Court of Appeal can consider fresh evidence that might, in theory, have been available at the time of a trial — if they are satisfied that to do so would be in the interests of justice. But they also have to consider whether there is a reasonable explanation why it was not used by the defence, and there is no stronger reason than a failure by the prosecution to disclose evidence to start with. This is ultimately why the cases of Baby Y and Baby K may yet be so significant.
Later this month, Lady Justice Thirwall will be asked by Mark McDonald, Lucy Letby’s lawyer, to put her inquiry on hold until the Criminal Cases Review Commission (CCRC) decides whether to order a new appeal. If it does, he will say, it would undermine the whole inquiry, which has been based from the outset on the presumption that Letby is guilty. In the face of the growing volume of fresh evidence, the verdicts against her are beginning to look distinctly unsafe.
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SubscribeJust string her up and be done with it. I’m sick of reading all these internet Clouseau’s pretending to pick apart the case while ignoring the reams of evidence that point to her guilt.
Have you read and digested the evidence the prosecution failed to submit and fresh new evidence ? This is critical for her defense and will clearly cast doubt on this being a “safe” verdict.
Because the chain of events required for such an outcome is absurd. If Letby is being a scapegoat for a failing NHS, It would require a group of doctors who were under no suspicion whatsoever to panic about a spike in deaths in their hospital that most people in Chester, let alone the rest of the country, were completely unaware of. It would mean that despite a review by the Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health in 2016 that did not point the finger of blame at any doctors, they nevertheless decided to feed a colleague to the wolves.
Luckily for them there was a nurse who just so happened to have been at every unexplained collapse and death in the past year or so, with these incidents following her from the night shift to the day shift and stopping whenever she went on holiday. Just as fortunately this young woman, who had once failed her final-year student nurse placement because she lacked empathy, also had a habit of falsifying medical records, misleading colleagues and looking strangely excited when infants died.
These doctors then raised concerns with NHS managers who actively discouraged them from looking into the spike in deaths. And yet still – inexplicably – they proceeded to pursue this innocent woman until they got the police involved, even though it meant having to answer tough questions in court, making their hospital world famous for harbouring a serial killer, and ultimately resulting in a public inquiry into why they failed to stop her.
In a further stroke of luck nurse they used as a scapegoat because of the unlikely coincidence of her invariable presence at every suspicious event (she was nicknamed Nurse Death by junior doctors) also happened to be obsessed with looking up the parents of dead babies on Facebook.
She also stole 257 handover sheets from the hospital, which she took with her whenever she moved house and kept a selection in a bedroom at her parents house in a box marked ‘KEEP’.
Better still, she had been writing notes saying things like ‘I AM EVIL I DID THIS’ and ‘I killed them on purpose’ and she started imagining a life in prison long before there was any suggestion of a criminal investigation.
Once the criminal investigation was underway, dozens of collapses and deaths were scrutinised in great detail and yet, in a final stroke of good fortune for the doctors, nothing pointed the finger of blame at them. The nurse went to prison and the doctors lived happily ever after.
Finding a scapegoat for the failings of a hospital that was not particularly bad by NHS standards would have been an insanely dangerous gamble for no reward. If fatal medical blunders had occurred, the safest course of action for the doctors would have been to shut up and get on with their job, which is what the NHS managers who had no suspicions of anyone wanted to do.
I see no internet sleuths have bothered to challenge the series of events I’ve posted (and somebody has flagged all my other comments on the subject) therefore I won’t bother wasting my time with the rest of the emotional claptrap around Letby. I’ve a feeling most who shout her innocence aren’t actually interested in the facts of the case, they just want to be seen to opposing something
Well, when you put it like that……
You’re framing it as though everyone’s basis is that it’s a conspiracy by the NHS. That’s not the case. It’s the first time I have come across that conspiracy angle. If you disregard that, then a fair bit of what you say is just your interpretation.
Most are implying it’s a massive cover up to hide a failing hospital, but even if you discount that side of it you still have a large spike in unexplained deaths that followed Letbys shift patterns. You also had a doctor catch her stood over a baby whose tubes had been removed and she had muted the alarms. You also have to look past her falsifying paperwork of the babies she allegedly killed, the ramblings in her diary, her excited reactions on hearing of the babies deaths….I could go on.
There was lots of evidence against Letby that people who proclaim her innocence pretend didn’t happen
Aha, the ‘voice of reason’ speaks!
Thank you very much. I do try not to blindly believe everything that appears on the internet that might be contrary to the mainstream opinion. Too many confuse critical thinking with simply being a contrarian
Yep that is a masterly, irrefutable savaging of the whacky conspiracy cranks who insist upon the least credible and least feasible chain of events.
Hard to see how anyone who isn’t a crackpot can fail to be persuaded by the logic and – oh wait, you’re being ironic, aren’t you.
Can’t quite fathom how a smart chap like you has ended up on the loony-toons side of this one, Stanhope.
I’m not on ‘any’ side, just completely baffled.
The Letby case has been a travesty from the start. If there is culpability anywhere, why is it that only the person at the bottom of the command chain has been accused? Where are the doctors in this? Why was the coroner not informed of the doubts about the deaths of all these babies? Who is in charge of this hospital – no doubt on an enviable salary – and why is that person not in the dock?
Numerous doctors warned the hospital bosses of their concerns about Letby, but were roundly ignored by the hospital management and in one case even made to apologise to her.
You’re right, those bosses should be prosecuted for failing to stop her when they had the chance
Have you read anx digested the evidence the prosecution failed to submit and fresh new evidence ?
See my comment at the bottom of the page. If you can argue why that chain of events is likely then I’ll begin on these latest press conferences designed to tug at the heart strings.
I won’t hold my breath though, on the last piece about Letby I put forward the arguments as to why she was convicted and nobody tried to counter them, they simply ignored it and posted about how her being sent to prison was a travesty
No takers?
Are you saying that it should be the NHS on trial ?
What, the whole NHS? 🙂
Yes, the NHS as an entity does not work. It has a culture of denial and cover-up, and when exposed blaming anyone but those in charge. I moved to Shropshire in 2000, and worked with a lot of young women just starting to have families. They all said that they would try to avoid going to Shrewsbury Hospital to give birth, as even then it had a terrible reputation. It took another decade before an enquiry was held into the level of neonatal/mother deaths and unfortunately it only examined cases back to 2007. And it has not learnt a thing, as I know from experience.
I do not know if Letby is guilty or not. But, when the prosecution fails to disclose evidence which may have helped her defence then I do wonder why. We should all have confidence in the justice system and the more I read about this case, there more I doubt the verdict.
The prosecution didn’t fail to disclose evidence, the defence could have chosen to call any one of these experts if they wished but they chose not to, likely in the knowledge that they would have been ripped to shreds by any competent prosecutor
In UK we do not have a system that expects the defence to investigate.
I never said we did, but the defence was free to call any of these witnesses during the trial.
The defence knew the allegations against Letby and what the police had determined as the causes of death. If it was obviously false then it stands to reason they would have called in experts to dispute it but they didn’t, because they knew they wouldn’t last 5 minutes under cross examination. Letby had access to one of the finest silks in the land don’t forget
But Soni wasn’t an expert witness, she was invisible to the defence as her report was not disclosed.
All prosecutors must disclose exculpatory information. The presence of other potential causes of death or of an outbreak of RSV is certainly exculpatory. “Tear it to shreds?” Highly unlikely.
In the Chauvin trial for the murder of George Floyd, the medical examiner was forced to change the original cause of death from drug overdose to death by asphyxiation due to a compressed trachea. The Letby case is similar – potential intervening causes of death were excluded. Whether this was due prosecutorial misconduct or lack of competent counsel, she should get a new trial. The facts upon which an appeal was based are contaminated.
You are assuming that her lawyers were working in her best interests and aimed to get her acquitted. That assumption might be incorrect.
By no means the first time the CPS or police have ‘lost’, ‘mislaid’ or ‘made an administrative error’. It’s known to the rest of us as corruption.
In legal terms …. a denial of due process.
How many more catastrophes can the reputation of British Justice withstand? Weren’t Denning and Hoffman, together with numerous others enough?
“Salus populi suprema lex esto.”*
*MTC.
So to save the energy of any more googles, that means “The welfare of the people shall be the supreme law.”
That great hypocrite Marcus Tullius Cicero thought so.
I make no comment on the expert medical evidence except to say that I feel significant doubt has been thrown on that produced at the original trial.
As for statistics, well … the cases of Sally Clark and now Lucy Letby make me think it is time for a high-level investigation into the use of statistics in criminal trials. The problem is this. Lawyers (including judges) do not understand statistics. Why should they? In fact they are inclined to distrust them (“There are lies, damn lies and statistics”). So it is very likely that defence teams just do not realise that experts produced by the prosecution could be challenged, and so do not call in experts who might help their case. And then the appeal process, controlled by lawyers, will not allow for new opinions to be brought forward.
Jurors, on the other hand, are very easily swayed by those big numbers. “It is more likely that you will win the lottery then for this to have happened by chance.”
As I say, an investigation is needed. But the panel needs to include expert statisticians (perhaps nominated by the Royal Statistical Society) as well as the legal profession.
“The problem is this. Lawyers (including judges) do not understand statistics. Why should they?”
I suppose, in today’s world, if they can get away with it, why not.
Joking aside, it’s because it is what their job requires. Though there are plenty of jobs where statistics need to be understood, (so statistics aren’t being used to mislead), there is little to encourage the appropriate mathematical skills required. In our technological world, our education system needs to address it.
So many BIG problems have been, and are still being, caused by the outsourcing of anything technical by the Establishment, the Managerial Class, which thinks Intelligence is sufficient, with Knowledge and Hands-on Experience, optional. And once this laxness becomes the norm, it doesn’t take much for it to develop into managerial dysfunctionality and the encouragement of reports that are ‘economical with the truth’. This then leads to corruption, whether intensionally or not, and a degradation in recruitment. Who would want to work in that environment, if you were proficient?
You wonder why Britain has managed, so successfully, to follow Managed Decline. And just look at the revelations, appearing in the US, with many connected to this side of the Atlantic. There’s more to follow. In part, it’s due to relatively intelligent people shuffling information they don’t understand, so they can’t verify it, and it becomes distorted. And plausible deniability is the result.
There’s NET Zero policies, which cover a multitude of sins, including failed startups initiated by government, the recent Global Medical Intervention, HS2, and the scare stories about our climate that was based on misleading data. There’s imminent closure of Grangemouth, Scotland’s only oil refinery, and also BP’s unbelievable sorti into Green Technology, planning to cut oil & gas production by 40% by 2030, and the many Whitehall departments aren’t fit for purpose.
Yes, the professionals should have known better, but when it’s either doing what you know is right, or obeying the upgraded 2008 Climate Change Act, and not being abused, even threatened with tattoos on the forehead, perhaps Managed Decline isn’t such a bad option after all.
Why bother with statistics when emotional empathy is so much more persuasive? Who needs facts?
It is the duty of the defence to pick apart the prosecution case including the stats
How might the Defence have called witnesses they did not know about?
this evidence – only now made public – was deliberately NOT given to the Defence.
There is enough doubt in enough minds to conclude the convictions are unsafe
You mean …. a denial of due process. “Unsafe” is language that does not belong in a critique of a justice system. It has no legal meaning. There is a reason the legal and justice system has specific language that is unique to its administration. An educated barrister will understand this language.
The only question is how long the authorities can continue to cover this up and keep her in jail. Based on previous scandals such as the contaminated blood, she will probably die there.
Letby’s trials and the evidence against her sound as manipulated as the George Floyd murder trial of Officer Derek Chauvin. There is certainly reasonable doubt in both cases and both cases reek of a denial of due process. The primary role of providing due process is to find facts that are hold up as true, or as true as possible, over all time. That is …. we can look back retrospectively and be reasonably certain that justice was done. There are strict rules of evidence: what is relevant and what is not relevant, what is evidence that is so flimsy as to be prejudicial, what is evidence that is exculpatory, and what is testimony that is not evidence at all, such as that of a Dr. who has was not even present on the scene or whose credentials and experience are not specific to the cause of death. Some “experts” barely qualify as experts. And what is most telling about the attitude surrounding the status of the British justice system is a conclusion that the verdict was not “safe”. This is not the language a justice system and I do hope it was a journalistic misuse of the word.
I am not British. I am an American lawyer. We are watching the decline of medical care provided by NHS and we are also watching the appalling treatment of British subjects who are exercising their rights to free speech. Do the barristers not see the creep of sharia law they are mistakenly tolerating and promoting ? The case also resembles the American Salem Witch trials of the past. When every prosecution or jurist feels the arrogant power of God or Allah on his or her side, civilization is done for.
“… due process is to find facts that are hold up as true, or as true as possible, over all time.
There is such a thing as lying by omission, by one person or several, whether intentional or not.
And we are not determining whether Letby is innocent, only that the trial hadn’t proved guilt beyond all reasonable doubt.
Can President Trump pardon Derek Chauvin Esq? If not why not?
State crime vs. federal crime. Trump has no jurisdiction over state crimes.
Thank you.
Aside from the lack of an actual legal system – consititution, bills of rights etc the UK’s muddled attempt at a legislature and a judiciary has one fatal flaw which you clearly see: The system – like God, Allah and the Pope, has to be seen as perfect. So Andy Malkinson, Birmingham Six, Angela Cannings and Sally (?) Clarke all had to be convicted w/o evidence and a sham of due process. For this reason all convictions by UK courts are unsafe. Which is why UK is such a playground for murderers and rapists as well as orgainsied crime cartels. Their chances of discovery and conviction are lower than almost any other “first world” country. Yes the Letby case looks suspisciously like a political rather than judicial “conviction” but without an actual legal system and rule of law in UK we will never know for sure.
Since the introduction of PACEthe onus was always on the prosecution to disclose all evidence, with particular reference to the undermining of the case
This is a failure of the system to adhere to its own rules and the attitude of the establishment , far above the police, shows that things have slipped
This is clearly an unsafe prosecution, led my politicians trying to hide their own failing and supported by the judiciary who are culpable in their support for this witch hunt
Having someone to blame for institutional failings is always good for the establishment
The way the system works also works against Letby, whose failure to admit culpability is seen as bad behaviour because she was found guilty and the system cannot be wrong can it?
Search The fall of Minneapolis for a compelling account of similar actors in America, at least they have a politician who may well be persuaded to take action
At the moment our current politicians see this as someone who doesn’t matter being buried so they don’t look bad, remember most of the government are either corrupt or lawyers looking to keep their reputation within their elite circle of lawyer friends
So 2 journalists with zero medical qualifications or understanding raise questions about a small number of the cases while ignoring the other cases and the weight of evidence used to convict, and it’s apparently enough to condemn ‘the justice system’?
“zero medical qualifications or understanding” – how much of that do you need to report that a vital opinion in favour of the accused was kept from the defence?
If the full details of this case are ever revealed, a few people should spend a long time in prison. One of them is not Lucy Letby.
Of course in the ‘good old days’ we would have sent her to Holloway, filled her up with brandy* and hanged her.
*To stop her squealing. (viz Ruth Ellis.)
No less than she deserves
*Letby obviously, not Ellis who it seems was rather hard done by
It was the element of premeditation than ensured that Ellis “swung”, to lapse into the contemporary vernacular.
It’s worth pointing out, that the defence can ask to view all undiclosed material, which to be fair, in an investigation such as this, might amount to an impossible many thousands of documents. But did that not happen in this case?
Of course it did. Letby had one of the best silks in the land, if there was a chance the babies hadn’t been deliberately harmed then that would have been the most obvious line of defence (and the easiest to pull off by simply getting a few doctors to bamboozle the jury with complicated medical talk).
However they knew they’d be ripped to shreds under cross examination, so instead tried to blame a virus caused by a blocked waste that only seemed to affect babies when Letby was on shift. No other nurse was on shift for even half of the murders/attempted murders