On 4 October 1903, a 23-year-old man went to the house where Beethoven had died in Vienna and shot himself. Otto Weininger felt himself to be a great genius; he hoped in his final moments to absorb some of Beethoven’s lustre. It worked. The obscure book he left behind, Sex and Character, rapidly gained the recognition its author craved. Weininger’s theatrical suicide inspired copycats and attracted admirers. The Nazi grandee Dietrich Eckart, Hitler relayed to his dining companions in December 1941, said that Weininger was the only respectable Jew he’d ever encountered — because he took his own life “once he recognised that the Jew lives on the decay of other peoples”. (This didn’t count for much, in the end; Weininger’s writings were banned in the Third Reich anyway.)
Sex and Character found particular success among tortured, brooding young men like its author. Ludwig Wittgenstein read it as a schoolboy, and remained devoted to it for the rest of his life. In a letter to his protégée, Elizabeth Anscombe, he favoured Weininger above Kafka: Kafka gave himself a “great deal of trouble not writing about his trouble”, whereas Weininger had the courage to face it all head-on. Weininger provides Ray Monk’s masterly biography of Wittgenstein with its master-theme. What Wittgenstein took from Weininger was the “twist” to Kant’s moral law that Monk made the subtitle of his book: “The Duty of Genius.”
Most who read Sex and Character today find their way to it via Wittgenstein. In August 1931 Wittgenstein remarked to G.E. Moore that Weininger “must feel very foreign to you”, and he is bound to feel even more foreign to the 21st-century reader. His intricate intermingling of misogyny with antisemitism is as baffling as it is off-putting. Yet although he makes an apology, early on, that the book “is for the most part not of a quality to be understood and absorbed at first glance”, it is surprisingly readable. Sometimes it rings familiar. Weininger combined ideas which we now would find only in the more esoteric corners of the online Right with ideas which are nowadays espoused in gender studies departments. He’s Judith Butler meets Bronze Age Pervert.
The main target of Sex and Character is femininity. Weininger knew his book was liable to offend its few female readers; he notes at the beginning that nothing would “rehabilitate” him in their minds. He was not so distressed at the thought of their disapproval. “The male,” he writes, “lives consciously; the female lives unconsciously.” Women do not think thoughts but rather what he called “henids”: half-baked notions more akin to feelings. Women are gossipy, sensual, vacuous. Their one love in life, so we are told, is matchmaking.
Yet when Weininger speaks of men and women, he is not speaking of biological categories. He is, in fact, an early critic of biological essentialism and a proponent of gender fluidity. All people, he claimed, are a mixture of maleness and femaleness; all exist along a spectrum, in various “transitional forms”. Weininger presented his argument as a “complete revision of facts hitherto accepted”, and it is a revision which has kept a foothold ever since.
Those few women whom Weininger liked or respected thus turn out to have been men all along. “These so-called ‘women’ who have been held up to admiration in the past and present, by the advocates of women’s rights, as examples of what women can do, have almost invariably been what I have described as sexually intermediate forms.” George Eliot was more man than woman; in her movements as in her prose she “lacked all womanly grace”. Weininger remained firm in his conviction that in the “real female”, talent is “rare and feeble”, and therefore that talented women (often lesbians) were basically men.
Sex and Character isn’t just a series of armchair speculations; Weininger also ventured into the field, so to speak. Part of the book is devoted to the “laws of attraction” governing sexual relationships. Weininger believed he had discovered the basic law, for which “almost every couple one meets in the street furnishes a new proof”. The law dictates that everybody seeks their sexual complement. If an individual is three-quarters male and one-quarter female, they will be most attracted to one who is one-quarter male and three-quarters female. Weininger proved this law by showing pictures of women to his male friends and guessing who they would find most attractive (he boasts about his perfect score). This law, he added, offered an obvious “cure” for homosexuality: “sexual inverts must be brought to sexual inverts, from homosexuals to Sapphists, each in their grades.” That is to say, the most effeminate gay men (who are, as Weininger would have it, basically women), ought to be set up with the manliest lesbians (basically men) — and that way constitute a heterosexual pairing, by anybody’s definitions. “Knowledge of such a solution,” he hoped, “should lead to the repeal of the ridiculous laws of England, Germany, and Austria directed against homosexuality.”
Real salvation, however, could be achieved only in celibacy. Weininger’s answer to the “Woman Question” is that “man must free himself of sex”. His misogyny is not therefore one which calls for the subjection of women, but rather their total obsolescence: he is much closer to Nick Fuentes, who preaches that “having sex with women is gay”, than Andrew Tate. The ordinary objection to universal celibacy — that human beings would go extinct — is no match for Weininger’s ferocious intensity. Such an objection is impious, since it denies eternal life after death for those who merit it, and cowardly, too; he is scathing about St. Augustine for weaselling out of the logical conclusion of his premises.
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SubscribeAfter a quick google, turns out that this “Godfather” was just 23 years old when he did away with himself; nowhere near enough life experience to form a judgement about anything, especially something as important as the subject of his book.
It appears that later intellectuals took a good deal of notice, as did those with a political axe to grind. What fools they appear, to have done so.
You didn’t really need to google. His age at death is stated in the very first sentence of the article.
Ha, yeah! But i had a quick google anyway to find out a bit more and that’s where i recalled it from.
Not a well-known figure in the Anglosphere, but a useful article in drawing attention to the same issues being thought about more than a century ago, albeit in a jejune kind of way.
I’ve never heard of Weininger, nor his book. The idea that he is somehow the “godfather” of the manosphere is ludicrous. It’s long overdue that Unherd gave a platform to anti-feminists to counter the many feminist contributors here.
I can recommend a far more interesting alternative book, which looks very prescient today, Ernest Belfort Bax’s “The Fraud of Feminism” (1913).
Mike Buchanan
JUSTICE FOR MEN & BOYS
I can recommend Esther Vilar’s “The Manipulated Man”
Thanks William, an outstanding book – at times, laugh-out-loud funny. Published in 1971, I believe Amazon pulled English-language editions in 2021, its 50th anniversary, but copies are still available elsewhere, notably ebook editions. Vilar is refreshingly blunt and honest about how women manipulate men. Strongly recommended!
The problem is most “anti-feminists” are misogynists. The antidote to modern feminism is not some half-baked internet men’s right movement, but a return to the traditional belief in the complementary nature of man and women, and its expression in marriage and family. Any group who rages than men are suckers to get married, is intrinsically opposed to the survival of our civilization in any even remotely healthy form.
Well said.
Arthur, it’s simply nonsense to claim that most anti-feminists are misogynists (unless you consider people who believe women should be held accountable for their actions and inactions are misognynists). I’ve been a f/t men’s rights activist for 15+ years and have never encountered any misogynists. I’ve encountered plenty of misandrists, both male and female. Many of the most prominent anti-feminists are women e.g. Professor Janice Fiamengo, Erin Pizzey, Bettina Arndt…
As for “the survival of our civilization” is concerned, let’s start with abortion, shall we? Feminists are its biggest fans. The forecast average number of children per woman was 2.5+ in 1967, at the time of the Abortion Act, today it’s around 1.5. Over those 57 years British women have had 10+ million unborn children killed. Globally 70+ million unborn children killed every year – WHO estimate – a genocide with no parallels in human history, and no end in sight.
MRAs explain clearly – they don’t “rage” – that marriage is very risky for men, as is having children, with family courts denying children access to their fathers on the basis of allegations which aren’t tested. If those risks were removed, the objections of MRAs would be removed.
Our last election manifesto (downloadable from our website) explores about 20 areas where the human rights of men and/or boys are assaultd by the actions an/or inactions of the state, almost always to privilege women and/or girls. Of course female privilege leads to male disadvantage, how could it be otherwise?
Off the top of my head I can think of quite a few feminist contributors on Unherd – Julie Bindel, Kathleen Stock, Mary Harrington, Joan Smith, Sarah Ditum… Do you think it’s right that not even one anti-feminist is given a platform here to challenge feminism and feminists? If anyone is “unheard” it’s certainly not feminists, here or elsewhere in the media.
The claim that you have have encountered NO misogynists in this camp, which you’ve devoted 15-plus years of your life to, does not help your case at all.
Thanks AJ. I’m always disinclined to lie in order to “help my case”. The same is true of MRAs generally, we couldn’t (even if we wanted to) get away with lying on the scale feminists do (all feminist narratives are one or more of the following – a baseless conspiracy theory, a fantasy, a lie, a delusion or a myth).
My experience is an indicator of how rare misogyny is (other men tell me they have found the same). I find that even men who have been destroyed by ex-partners, or women who file false allegations against them, don’t hate women as a class i.e. misogyny.
I cited above that many anti-feminists are female. Feminists respond that they’ve “internalised misogyny”. In my experience they’re psychologically very healthy, and have good relations with both men and women.
I recall from campaigning on men’s issues at Speakers’ Corner in London that quite a few women would respond to points I’d made – for example, about domestic violence – by accusing me of misogyny. It seems to be a standard female response to having views challenged by a man (what feminists would term “mansplaining”). Many years ago I concluded that women’s belief that many men are misogynists is simply a projection of their own misandry.
So misandry runs rampant but misogyny is hardly to be found on Earth. Huh. I do sense that you truly believe that, Mike. But I think you have narrow vision, whereby you are unable to see the other side of the coin even when it does exist. I’ve looked at your website and online profile and found you to be prejudiced and hyper focused toward a confirmation of what you already believe. You show little balance or fair-mindedness. Do women still need justice and protection, or just poor long suffering men like us?
Treating the views of those who respond to your soapbox speeches as some kind of QED is a mistake. Listen to those who disagree with you too. I’ll strive to do the same. Merry Christmas.
Thanks AJ. Merry Christmas, all the best for next year.
I think the difference is that even the slightest criticism of women, even just of some women, gets jumped on as misogyny, while attacks on men, mockery of them etc is quite normalised.
And of course feminists interpret disagreement with their views, no matter how extreme and anti male, as misogyny.
I think Mikes point is that they don’t respond – they simply try to close him down by accusing him of misogyny.
Ok. But to pretend the bigotry is unidirectional in the other direction is a huge overcorrection. I understand the point about a shutdown reflex, or sense of built-in outrage toward any suggestion of anti-male bias that is more than trivial or tiny compared to what women experience.
Given the historical power and privilege imbalance in favor of men—I understand there are huge qualifications, like influencing children and not getting sent to war—this hypersensitivity is comparable to the reaction many have toward the very idea of racism toward whites: they call it trivial or imaginary. Nevertheless, it does exist. Not, however, to the point where it makes good sense to claim that anti-white racism is the only significant kind of racism that exists in our majority-white nations. Or to cry “racism!” in any direction when things don’t go our way, or whenever someone from another group is unkind.
The pendulum has swung quite far toward equality of the sexes in the West. Not toward overall favoritism for women, not that I’ve observed. (Again, exceptions can be found, and magnified). But we should pay attention to the global context, and support basic freedoms for women at elsewhere when we can. And true equality of access and opportunity (not anti-biological sameness or forcibly levelled outcomes), not feeling too sorry for ourselves for not living in a Man’s World here in this hemisphere; not like the old days at least.
While it’s natural to stand up for oneself and to identify with others who share certain physical or social characteristics, a narrow concern for one’s personal or group wellbeing takes away from true justice and equality. It can encourage a war-of-all-against-all mentality.
We are at a point of great mutual misunderstanding across differences everywhere we look, here in the Anglosphere too. Or phony claims of a quick understanding that has yet to take hold in the heart. We should be able to reach a point where major unfairness is called out, without instant resort to often hyperbolic terms like misandry or misogyny, that assign pathological hatred where there may only be misunderstanding or inconsiderateness.
Warring extremes don’t tend to produce balance or accuracy. Down with all bigotry and mistreatment. Yes, I know that’s, ahem—a very bold stance.
Totally agree with this, and mostly with the rest of what you have said.
But western society has become rather deaf to injustice towards men, accepts a level of (negative) generalisation about men which would be unacceptable towards women, and operates a deficit view of men (men fall short). And it operates this in schools which I think is unfair and damaging.
I also think there is a big difference between saying social arrangements are unfair (when they are) and saying that one sex is bad by its very nature. I think this is what Mike means. There are plenty of people saying (or even assuming) that men are bad by their nature; there are few men who would say that of women.
I agree with your version of what Mike means. Having seen many of his posts and visited his website, I don’t agree that’s all he does mean.
I’m in full agreement about the vilification of men by some non-trivial minority of women or would-be allies. And the recent rise of the terms like ‘toxic masculinity’, cheaply thrown around or even made to be pretty much synonymous with masculinity itself. Is ‘toxic femininity’ some damsel waiting for a prince or playing the innocent spectator but enjoying it while men fight and scheme to bed and protect her? How about being nice at all costs when strength or defiance are needed?
I’m quite sure we can agree that a complementary, cooperative bond makes more sense than defending one whole side of the biological divide to the exclusion of the other, whether in defense of men or women. As if the Battle of the Sexes could ever be won in some complete and final way!
Still, I think it’s best long term to make a balanced and honest case—which I think you do—instead of positing a ‘corrective’ extreme in an attempt to right the ship, which I think Mike does. I actually credit him with sincerity and conviction more than cynical strategy, but either way I consider his views to be, in large part, myopic and extreme.
Best wishes and Happy New Year either way.
And to you. I think we pretty much agree.
There is quite a big difference between these though. Some could be described as self-critical feminists, others as dogmatic. I’m not sure they would all even self describe as feminists.
But I agree it would be nice to hear a wider range of voices on the topic. A piece dismantling some of the real DV myths, for example. Or looking at some of the new research on female behaviour – not least female anti-female behaviour.
Arthur, let me give you an example of why I think Unherd should offer a platform to anti-feminists. It is popularly believed that the vast majority of victims of domestic violence are women, the vast majority of perpetrators men. Why do people believe this? Because it’s what feminists have been claiming for 50+ years, and the mainstream media have been complicit in spreading these claims.
So, what is known by researchers in the field? A quite different picture going back to at least Murray Straus in the 1970s.
The Partner Abuse State of Knowledge Project (PASK) was published in May 2013 in the journal Partner Abuse and is the most comprehensive review of domestic violence research ever carried out. This unparallelled three-year research project was conducted by 42 scholars at 20 universities and research centres. The headline finding of the PASK review was that:
“Men and women perpetrate physical and non-physical forms of abuse at comparable rates, most domestic violence is mutual, women are as controlling as men, domestic violence by men and women is correlated with essentially the same risk factors, and male and female perpetrators are motivated for similar reasons.”
A key numerical result from the PASK review was:
“Among large population samples, 57.9% of intimate-partner violence (IPV) reported was bi-directional, 42.1% unidirectional, 13.8% of the unidirectional violence was male-to-female, 28.3% was female-to-male.”
The last point is worth emphasising. In the 42.1% of (heterosexual) couples in which one partner is always the perpetrator and the other the victim, the woman is TWICE as likely to be the perpetrator and (therefore) half as likely to be the victim.
Perhaps, when you include “throwing things” but not so much when you look at serious domestic violence leading to physical injury or death.
Thanks Chris. I’ve long been accustomed to people minimising female violence against men. Heaven forbid society ever holds women to the levels of accountability men are held to. I recommend you check out the PASK study.
Let’s talk about gender-based violence, shall we? Given the size of the population, the number of women killed by male partners and ex-partners in the UK is small, and the men pay a very heavy price. For every such killing, British women kill 2,000+ defenceless unborn children for any reason or none, perfectly legally.
Actually it’s more that expanding the definition of domestic abuse has backfired a bit. Arguably the aim was to include more and more male behaviours under this rubric so that male abuse could be seen as the norm. Something more in line with patriarchy theory.
It backfired in that women were increasingly found to be guilty of exactly these behaviours in their relationships.
While we will doubtless be arguing over definitions and numbers for some time, the idea that DA or DV is something that, by definition, men do to women is dead in the water.
Thanks David, good points. But the state carries on as if all domestic abuse and domestic violence is male-on-female.
Mike, if you haven’t heard of Weininger, is that a sign of his irrelevance or your ignorance? Most of us haven’t heard of him either, but don’t hold that against him.
Bax claimed women had more legal rights than men in 1913, when women couldn’t vote in the UK. He was also enchanted by socialism. Well, we can all be wrong sometimes.
We don’t need to be fans of militant feminism to be grateful that our wives, mothers, sisters and daughters have the right to vote and own property.
Thanks Jeremy. I think people could get a lot from Bax’s book.
As far as the right to vote is concerned, most of the men killed and injured in WW1 didn’t have one either.
The ones who could not vote 2 in 5) did not meet the criteria of the time, not being over 21,having property valued at £10 or paying £10 in rent per year and a UK resident for a minimum of 12 months. The female ambulance drivers, docters, nurses, translaters, military volunteers, the Navy Yeoman, non-commissioned officers,truck drivers, radio operaters,munitions workers etc., had no vote.
“We don’t need to be fans of militant feminism to be grateful that our wives, mothers, sisters and daughters have the right to vote and own property.”
Jeremy, there seems to be an inference here that feminism was responsible for women getting the vote. It’s a myth. The Suffragettes are often credited with delivering female suffrage, when the truth is they delayed it, as explained by the historian Simon Webb in “The Suffragette Bombers: Britain’s Forgotten Terrorists” (2014). The all-male parliament was more in favour of female suffrage than the public. Opposition to women’s suffrage came mainly from women – their organisations included the Women’s National Anti-Suffrage League.
As for ‘property’, in Victorian times a married couple was one legal entity, with the man responsible for it. If a wife incurred a debt, and she and her husband were unable to settle it, the husband went to debtors’ prison. Male privilege, eh? As Dr Warren Farrell explained in “The Myth of Male Power” (1993), male responsibility for women is routinely cast by men’s enemies as male power over women.
Some men seem to have been concerned about the links between suffragist movements and teetotal and social purity movements. They feared, with a fair bit of justification, that if women had the vote this would result in prohibition.
Those pursuing votes for women did indeed see this as a route to controlling mens behaviour. Hence the slogan “votes for women – chastity for men”.
Liberals also feared that women would always vote Tory, so that although they believed in female suffrage in principle, they saw it as political suicide. It’s a complex story.
Thanks David, a complex story, indeed – though one rarely presented as such in the MSM. Your point about sex-related political leanings has a modern echo of course, with men as a class drifting to the right, women to the left. It helps explain Trump’s recent victory and will hopefully help Nigel Farage get into #10 in 2019, at the head of a Reform UK government. In the 18-24yo cohort, Reform are twice as popular with men as women.
Otto Weininger had some, umm, ‘interesting’ views on the English too, which he was able to fit quite satisfactorily into his Weltanschauung. From Chapter 13:
This is also the place to remember the similarity between the Englishman and the Jew, which has often been emphasized since Richard Wagner. For of all the Germanic peoples, they certainly have the closest affinity with the Semites. Their orthodoxy, their strictly literal interpretation of the Sabbath rest points to this. There is often hypocrisy in the religiosity of the English, and not a little prudery in their asceticism. Also, like women, they have never been productive either through music or religion: there may be irreligious poets – they cannot be very great artists – but there are no irreligious musicians. And it is connected with this why the English have never produced a distinguished architect, and never an eminent philosopher. Berkeley, like Swift and Sterne, is an Irishman; Eriugena, Carlyle and Hamilton, like Burns, are Scots. Shakespeare and Shelley, the two greatest Englishmen, are by no means the summits of humanity, nor do they even come close to Dante or Aeschylus. And if we now look at the English “philosophers”, we see how, since the Middle Ages, the reaction against all profundity has always emanated from them: from William of Occam and Duns Scotus, through Roger Bacon and his namesake the Lord Chancellor [Francis Bacon], Hobbes, who was so kindred in spirit to Spinoza, and the shallow Locke, up to Hartley, Priestley, Bentham, the two Mill, Lewes, Huxley, Spencer. But this already lists the most important names in the history of English philosophy, for Adam Smith and David Hume were Scotsmen. Let us never forget that soulless psychology came to us from England! The Englishman has impressed the German as a capable empiricist, as a realpolitiker in the practical as well as in the theoretical, but that is the end of his importance for philosophy. There has never been a very deep thinker who has stopped at empiricism; and there has never been an Englishman who has independently gone beyond it.
A guy who committed suicide at 23 MORE THAN 100 YEARS AGO may be interesting to learn about but he’s no godfather of anything.
Amen to that. More like bratty bad example. Also, the “Christmas Reads” label is affixed to an article that could have been called: “Some Little-known Lunatic I Find Fascinating”.
A thoroughly ridiculous character.