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Britain won’t be Balkanised Brexit saved us from civil war

Night bombing of the city of Dubrovnik in 1991 (Jon Jones/Sygma via Getty Images)

Night bombing of the city of Dubrovnik in 1991 (Jon Jones/Sygma via Getty Images)


October 25, 2024   6 mins

Imagine: the border with Scotland is closed and your home city of Manchester besieged. Before you know it, you and your family are having to flee to Wales to escape bombs and full-blown civil war. Such is the scenario of First World Problems, a dystopian BBC radio thriller following the plight of the fictional Fletcher family in the midst of a brewing civil war in the UK. Seeking to forestall a Scottish declaration of independence, the Westminster government of “Greater England” invades Scottish soil, before dissolving Parliament and — horror of horrors — assuming full control of the BBC itself.

To tell the tale of how a modern, multinational European country could slide from normalcy into the terrible vortex of civil war, the drama drew on the personal experience of BBC correspondents during the Balkan Wars of the Nineties. Broadcast in 2019, at the height of the Brexit crisis, when the atmosphere in the UK was indeed that of a cold civil war, the BBC dramatists succeeded in showing not only how little they understood Brexit but also how little their correspondents had learned about the collapse of Yugoslavia and the ensuing Balkan Wars.

The history of Yugoslavia still provides fodder for fictional accounts of a second British civil war because it offers a convenient moral fable. There is the dangerous allure of nationalism, the pernicious role of charismatic demagogues, and the collapse of multicultural harmony. It is the smug conceit of a liberal West that thought it had escaped history through globalisation and European integration across the Nineties. But now that the story of both Britain’s national decline and Yugoslavia’s collapse looks very different, what — if anything — can the 21st-century British public learn from the collapse of Yugoslavia?

Unsurprisingly, the standard fable bears little correspondence to the historic reality of Yugoslavia’s collapse. While the nationalist passions created during the war were real enough, they were modern rather than deeply historical and were weaponised by the hackish nationalist leaders. More scheming bureaucrat than inspired orator, Serbian strongman Slobodan Milošević dredged up Serbia’s defeat in the 1389 Battle of Kosovo Polje to reignite Serbian nationalism 600 years later. Seen as the point at which the Serbs martyred themselves before the invading Turks, that tale of rekindled historic grievance was clearly insufficient as an explanation of national collapse. If an independent Scotland ever did go to war against a Rump England, we can be confident that The New York Times would soon be carrying sombre stories about Edward Longshanks and Robert the Bruce, accompanied by chin-stroking editorials about ancient rivalries stretching back to the 1314 Battle of Bannockburn, adorned with quotes from Mel Gibson. But it would not serve as a useful explanation.

The reality is always more prosaic. Yugoslav ethnic grievances were bound up with centrifugal political dynamics between core and periphery. In 1974, the Yugoslav communist leader Marshal Tito sought to dilute Serbia’s preponderance as the largest constituent republic of the Yugoslav federation by imposing devolved provincial administrations within Serbia itself. This inter-ethnic asymmetry would play out in the collapse of Yugoslavia across the Nineties, as the secession of the smaller republics of Slovenia, Croatia and Bosnia-Herzegovina were all afforded international recognition, while the secession of minority Serbs within Croatia and Bosnia was denied. To this day, the EU protectorate over Bosnia-Herzegovina expends much of its political energy in keeping Bosnia’s Serb population bound up in that rickety mini-federation, despite the Serbs’ hostility to the central state in Sarajevo.

Thus there is a lesson in Tito’s efforts at constitutional rebalancing. The attempt to boost peripheral smaller nations at the expense of the largest constituent nation risks precipitating a vicious cycle. The rights extended to smaller nations in order to placate and bind them more tightly to the central state can never be extended to the largest nation without disproportionately strengthening it, thereby risking the integrity of the central state. At the same time, the failure to extend the same rights equally across the constituent peoples of the state undermines the reciprocity and equality that is supposed to bind the state together.

We see this dynamic at play in the toing and froing over English representation in the union. Should we establish an English parliament? And what about the constitutional anomaly of the so-called West Lothian question, whereby Scottish and Welsh MPs have a right to legislate on English matters while English MPs do not with respect to Wales and Scotland? Devolution is indeed a nationalist cause, but, unlike in the narrative of First World Problems, not one of a “greater England”. It is the cause of Scottish and Welsh separatism, propped up by English metropolitan liberals who nurture Celtic separatism as a way of checking the despised voters of the English heartland outside of London.

“Devolution is propped up by English metropolitan liberals who nurture Celtic separatism as a way of checking the despised voters of the English heartland.”

In the Yugoslav situation, there was a critical catalyst which contributed to the process of decentralisation. According to Croatian political scientist Dejan Jović, the Yugoslav Communists’ political commitment to the Marxist “withering away of the state” propelled Yugoslav decentralisation further than mere administrative reforms. It was the Yugoslav federal state that bore the brunt of this forced degeneration, while leaving the constituent republics of the federation intact. Whatever the whining of former prime minister Liz Truss about socialist Britain, there is no Communist Party seeking to shrivel the British state. But there has been a parallel process of state shrivelling in Britain — which ironically was part of the very same neoliberal programme that Truss herself strove to revive.

The neoliberalism espoused by successive Tory leaders from Thatcher through to David Cameron’s tinpot version with the “big society” programme shares with Marxism a commitment to the vanishing state. The difference lies in the timing, function and ultimate end-state. Unlike the Marxian vision, in which under socialism the state is gradually absorbed by civil society itself, the neoliberal version seeks to defeat socialism by stripping back public power, especially state oversight of the national economy. This is done not by working-class revolution, but via state-led privatisation of state-owned industry, integration into the supranational EU, and the devolution of state authority to independent regulatory agencies such as an independent Bank of England or Office of Budget Responsibility (OBR). In the neoliberal vision, this shrunken state remains in place to enforce social order — and private property.

In practice, the neoliberals never succeeded in repressing state spending as a proportion of GDP. They did, however, succeed in gouging state capacity and stripping back public authority far beyond their original intent. We can see the results of the neoliberal effort to wither away the British state all around us: in the closure of national industries, dingy high streets with boarded-up shops, pot-holed roads, a crumbling public health service, the disgorging of convicts from prison, and police forces incapable of policing. Instead of a vigorous civil society emerging to supplant the central state, the neoliberal decimation of the state only weakened civil society further — look at how George Osborne’s programme of austerity cascaded state failure across the nation as a whole. Today, a central state still strives to divest itself of its sovereign power. As Rachel Reeves empowers the OBR, Keir Starmer’s localist agenda intends to drive devolution further, all while sidling up to the EU and Nato, the better to outsource Britain’s foreign and defence policies.

Despite enduring a parallel process of state degeneration, Britain enjoys a geopolitical advantage that Yugoslavia did not. As a Nonaligned power perched between East and West, Yugoslavia was left exposed to geopolitical realignment with the end of the Cold War in 1992, and in particular to the hubris of a newly reunified Germany. Chancellor Helmut Kohl decided he would signal Germany’s return as a great power by flouting US Secretary of State James Baker’s instruction that no one was to recognise any of the break-away Yugoslav republics. Germany’s recognition of Slovenian and Croatian independence in 1991 lit the kindling that would send Yugoslavia up in flames. In the end, Yugoslavia burned for nothing as Kohl’s bid for European leadership floundered. The US re-established hegemony over its European allies by leading the Nato bombing campaigns first against the Bosnian Serbs in the Nineties, and then Serbia itself in 1999. Today, Germany lets its own energy infrastructure be bombed.

Here Britain is fortunate. It was our withdrawal from the EU in 2020 that has allowed us to swerve the dystopian scenario of a future civil war. By enforcing the principle of loser’s consent on those who wanted to rejoin the EU, and by undercutting the appeal of Scottish separatism, our withdrawal from the EU preserved the authority of the central British state and, with it, British democracy. If we are to make good on this historic fortune, then we must reverse the process that led us here by an energetic programme of centralised nation-building that will necessarily involve strengthening the state. This does not mean strengthening the state’s already bloated bureaucracy, but rather boosting the state as an authoritative and representative public power. If we can do this, not only can we reap the political blessings of independence, but we might also be spared any more BBC fables about the former Yugoslavia.


Philip Cunliffe is Associate Professor of International Relations at the Institute of Risk and Disaster Reduction, University College London. He is author or editor of eight books, as well as a co-author of Taking Control: Sovereignty and Democracy After Brexit (2023). He is one of the hosts of the Bungacast podcast.

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UnHerd Reader
UnHerd Reader
8 hours ago

Ah, another person who seems to think that moving from taxing and spending 35%-ish of the economy to 45%-ish is a radical withering of the UK State. The reason the NHS is a mess, the roads are full of pot holes and nothing works is because the State singularly fails to do anything efficiently. It commands more and more of the nations output and yet does less and less. Mainly (but not entirely, rampant over regulation doesn’t help) because those employed by the State are handsomely remunerated (in both pay and pensions) yet have zero accountability to achieve anything, the fundamental flaw of socialism.

General Store
General Store
6 hours ago

By 2050 the Muslim minority will be large enough to start acting like a majority….and that is most certainly a recipe for Balkanization. It’s already here in the cities

Ethniciodo Rodenydo
Ethniciodo Rodenydo
6 hours ago

We are already well down the path of Balkanization as the recent general election as illustrated.
Significant parts of many of our cities and town have become ethnic enclaves which are increasingly no-go areas for the police and even whites, particularly after dark, and what happens when these cities towns become majority Muslim?

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Dennis Roberts
Dennis Roberts
13 hours ago

I was not aware of the BBC radio drama. It is interesting that the BBC chose to depict a Yugoslav-style disintegration on to the UK, rather than the EU with the UK still in it, even though the desired federal vision for the EU would look far more like Yugoslavia did than the UK ever could.

I might be a little overly long-term in my thinking, but fear of a future EU civil war occurring as multiple nationalist movements try to extract themselves from it, which would inevitably be horrific, was my top reason for voting for Brexit.

Kiddo Cook
Kiddo Cook
10 hours ago

Until we leave the ECHR and remove the HCA from U.K. law we’re still in Europe and they control our borders, end of.

Dylan B
Dylan B
11 hours ago

Let’s not kid ourselves.

Shut down the national power grid for 72 hours and we would be at war with each other pretty damn quickly.

Susan Grabston
Susan Grabston
11 hours ago
Reply to  Dylan B

Miliband appears to be putting that outcome actively to the test.

AC Harper
AC Harper
9 hours ago

in a comment on the title of the article Britain is already ‘balkanized’ thanks to T Blair.

Point of Information
Point of Information
7 hours ago

“But there has been a parallel process of state shrivelling in Britain…”

Eh? This requires some gymnastics by Cunliffe to define “the state” to include primarily nationalised industries and services (British Rail, British Steel, British Telecom) and exclude the civil service, the NHS, universities, social services etc.

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Alex Lekas
Alex Lekas
4 hours ago

Judging by the past year’s worth of protests, cops covering up crimes, and the current hypersensitivities over a social media post that might hurt some feelings, a case can be made that Britain is already balkanized. As others here have pointed out, just look around. When cities are run by people who are well outside of what might be considered the British norm, you are playing catchup without realizing that you’re behind.
The point in the US was the melting pot – where you came from did not matter. What did matter was you blending in with everyone else. Yes, you can have the ethnic neighborhoods with the customs, traditions, and language, but otherwise, learn English, assimilate into the new land, and be self-supporting. Today, that’s considered criminal in a game of cultural relativism wherein the host country is expected to adjust to the newcomers rather than the other way around.

Dougie Undersub
Dougie Undersub
3 hours ago

Truss was never a fan of the OBR, as this piece seems to suggest.

Citizen Diversity
Citizen Diversity
3 hours ago

The UK’s defence secretary has said that the UK’s military couldn’t resist an invasion. Any English war with Scotland might follow the course of the War of 1812. The aggressor would be put on the defensive and it would see a Scottish army invade England. The result could be a United States of Greater Scotland and rule from Holyrood.
A civil war requires two sets of elites who are opposed to each other. The English Civil War would not have been possible in the Tudor age as at that time parliament had no sense of its own collective political identity. Tudor officials owed allegiance to their superior who had appointed them, and ultimately to the monarch.
As for an English parliament, there is already one. Others have been invited to it. If there were ever a civil war in the UK, would it see NATO aircraft from elsewhere bomb the transmitters of the BBC? And would it suit the EU to have the UK broken up into its regions and communities, all the better to absorb them piecemeal? The BBC’s scriptwriters could have made something of that.
I once encountered a rather inebriated Scotsman aboard a London Underground train on a New Years’ Eve. “Scotland saved England and all you Sassenachs in the Second World War”, he shouted out at all the embarrassed commuters. What-ho, Jock!

j watson
j watson
10 hours ago

Author worked v hard here to outline a Brexit benefit – essentially that we may have ended up like Yugoslavia, or at least stopped any such slide in that direction. Twaddle. Reason the Balkans have settled dramatically from what was happening in mid 90s is due to US military might, NATO and the attraction of the EU. Yes the last one is real, painful though it may be for Brit Brexiteers.
Whether Brexit further aided a weakening of Scottish independence a debatable point though and not without some logic. Less convincing is the argument in Ireland.
Nonetheless the Author links Neoliberalism to why Brexit has not delivered what was promised. Some truth in this. Yet that awakening on the Right has yet to happen. They still can’t grasp the thing that most drove Brexit is something they also cherished and nurtured. They’ve yet to get into squaring this contradiction.

Dennis Roberts
Dennis Roberts
10 hours ago
Reply to  j watson

Neoliberalism gives the freedom for money, and therefore jobs, to move wherever it likes. The EU actively promotes this and one way to read Brexit is as a push back against neoliberalism.

That push back may not have been a reason for some of the main proponents on the right to support Brexit, but that does not mean it was not a reason for others that supported it (even if not expressed in that way).

j watson
j watson
5 hours ago
Reply to  Dennis Roberts

I agree. Whilst many supporters of Brexit wouldn’t know what was meant by the term fundamentally it’s what they were angry about. Our form of capitalism just favoured an increasingly small minority, the almost inevitable trajectory of neoliberalism.
EU wasn’t to blame for our version of Neoliberalism. EU had/has faults, but pulling out of Single Market and Custom Union certainly not delivered anything helpful to the national debt.

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Dennis Roberts
Dennis Roberts
2 hours ago
Reply to  j watson

You are right that the EU is not the ultimate cause of neoliberalism or the debt, but it is still part of that machine and leaving it (or the incredibly unlikely alternative of changing it) was necessary. I would also the contribution leaving it made to the debt is negligible compared to the banking crisis of 2008, pandemic and other factors.

Richard Craven
Richard Craven
1 hour ago
Reply to  j watson

Could you please insert some more definite articles and main verbs into your posts.

Andrew R
Andrew R
9 hours ago
Reply to  j watson

I think we should pay our respects to the real architect of Brexit and the fractured “United” Kingdom, one Alex Salmond. I doubt there would have been a EU referendum if there hadn’t been a Scottish one.

Hugh Bryant
Hugh Bryant
6 hours ago
Reply to  j watson

The actual reason the British state is failing has nothing to do with ‘neo-liberalism’. It is entirely a consequence of the parasitism of the suburban middle class. Over a lifetime, as an average, you take out around 15% more than you put in. And that’s even before taking into account the millions in unearned property wealth to which you think you are entitled.

That’s why we’re drowning in debt.

Ian Wigg
Ian Wigg
12 minutes ago
Reply to  Hugh Bryant

And that’s even before taking into account the millions in unearned property wealth to which you think you are entitled.

Deliberately created by both parties to artificially increase gdp and to give the impression that our economy is growing. In exactly the same way that unlimited immigration increases gdp.

The elephant in the room is that both reduce gdp per capita which is the metric which actually matters.