I saw Shlomo Sand speak once. It was at a public event in 2008, but I remember him well: a preening man with a leather jacket and a manner of such monumental self-regard that he reminded me of an Israeli George Galloway, if such a thing could ever exist.
The book he was promoting was called The Invention of the Jewish People, which argued that the concept of Jews as a distinct people with a shared lineage, culture and homeland didn’t exist until the arrival of 19th-century nationalism. The exile from ancient Israel in 70AD, a central event in Jewish tradition, he called a “myth”. These sorts of claims were, he wrote, thrown together to give the Jewish people a cohesive national identity and, inevitably and tediously, to justify Zionism.
Leaving aside that the phrase “Next year in Jerusalem” (“L’Shanah Haba’ah B’Yerushalayim“) — recited at the end of both the Passover Seder and Yom Kippur — dates at least from the Middle Ages, and that the book was intended to provoke, its objective was clear: the delegitimisation of Jewish nationhood and, by extension, any Jewish claims to the land of Israel. It was desperate stuff; even The Guardian’s reviewer wasn’t convinced.
And so, we come to his latest book Israel–Palestine: Federation or Apartheid?. Here, Sand “explores” two political solutions for the current conflict: a bi-national federation or what he terms an apartheid-like reality. There is, glaringly, no option of two states. The idea of a state for Jews, the state of Israel, is a non-starter.
It is from this bogus binary that we begin. What follows is expected: the first chapter opens with Sand quoting the Right-wing Zionist thinker Vladimir Jabotinsky, allowing him to make the case for Zionism being an entirely colonial endeavour. Predictably, there is no mention the continuous Jewish presence in the land since the defeat of the Jewish prince Simon Bar Kochba in AD135 and the fact that, apart from a brief period in the 18th century, the Palestinians who lived there did so as subjects of foreign rulers.
Jabotinsky, by the way, is more comprehensively dealt with by the other Israeli revisionist historian Avi Shlaim, in his book Iron Wall. I have my own issues with Shlaim’s work, but he is a harmless man and possessed of magnificent hair. I once sat in a lecture of his at university, marvelling at how it corkscrewed out of his skull in all directions, so white and flocculent you could stuff a duvet with it.
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SubscribeThank you David. Some interesting characters and thoughts. In the end though revolution or change comes out of the barrel or point of a weapon, wielded by savages. Not by rhetoric nor books. Although the latter can be influential. Interestingly the world is well supplied with the savage at present.
Power comes from the barrel of a gun eh. I don’t think so. Maybe temporarily. It’s the strategy of a bully. Leave your house or I’ll burn it down with all your family inside. If I see you in the playground I’ll steal your lunch money. I’m bigger than you. Well,all my life,up till recent years I’ve had it instilled into me that the little guy wins the fight. Quick clever small but charismatic David always beats out Goliath. But now all I’m hearing is WE NEED OVER-WHELMING FORCE ON OUR SIDE. WE NEED MORE GUNS,MORE WEAPONS. MORE DEATH. Doesn’t that make us Goliath.
The comments say more about the authors than about the context. Whether the Jewish people deserve a homeland based on “something” or not is a moot question. Whether it be religion, genes or the right of being there first the Jews do have to most Western minds a right to be there. However to Eastern or Southern minds they do not. The raiding Vikings did not give a hoot. That is the unfortunate truth. The wonder is that we still discuss it. The only reason for that being barbarism from both sides disturbing our peace. Be aware though, that your comments no matter how vigorously held are as valid as those of the first millennial Norse.
I’ve got two of his books and in my opinion every word is accurate. Just because you don’t like one interpretation of history doesnt make it incorrect as I tell my two servants who are black women and thus destined to be subservient to me and do my bidding -and it says so in The Bible,just like it says a portion of land in one particular geographical location belongs to anyone who says so. My reason is obviously just as correct because IT SAYS SO IN THE BIBLE.
In your opinion it is accurate – the issue there is that in the real world it is quite literally false and lies. Ruins your whole being, appreciated, but worth sharing.
Do you hold that the borders described in Numbers 34 should hold?
Oh I get it. The next strategy to get us not regarding the Gaza genocide in a bad light. Monster the historians so you can doctor the History. Didn’t Hitler do that? Now,let’s look at the evidence. God told Moses and Joshua that the land He was giving them was well populated,a host of different people’s with a string of names lived there,in peace and harmony mostly it seems,albeit with no doubt border.scuffles and jockeying for power but they all thrived. This land it was confirmed was rich and fertile,a land of milk and honey. It was well populated by happy people who (obviously) farmed the land well and took care of it and enjoyed a good life of ENOUGH if not more. And into this Eden came,doesn’t history repeat itself,the first recorded examples,proudly and gleefully.recorded,example of savage,blood thirsty,insatiably cruel, merciless and ENJOYED,the perpetrators ENJOYED it,GENOCIDE. As the saying goes,start as you mean to go on. So it’s now time to doctor.History.
I think that people have avoided answering you because of your anger. Instead, they’ve given you downticks, which is the lazy way.
I do not have knowledge of your history but I do agree with the general point that history is being manipulated every day by unscrupulous people. As a person who was born just after Hit*ler died, whose parents fought Hit*ler, who remembers rationing, I think it’s crazy that young people in the UK actually believe that Churchill was evil. But they do. This shows to me that history is not a fixed thing, not a series of facts, not a right to possess, but simply a view which depends on your life so far. If you are brought up spoilt, you have everything and loads of spare time on your hands – you can believe anything at all.
I recommend anything written by Elie Kedourie, especially those ‘histories’ relating to Palestine.
It may also be that people do not want to waste time replying to jane baker because, aside from the anger, she starts with the factless lie that a genocide is happening. The question I always ask in this case is this – how long do you think it would take for Israel to wipe Gaza off the face of the planet? I always assume about 8 minutes. So, why hasn’t that happened and, instead, the IDF is orchestrating a war with the lowest ever recorded civilian:military death toll in the history of warfare, despite Hamas using its civilians as human shields.
Bizarre that no one has ever answered me, can’t imagine why?
You need to read her statement more accurately. Yes, she might start with something which is factually ‘iffy’ but this is only a lead in to her main point. She is taking what she sees as an extreme view and arguing against that extreme. This is how debates proceed.
Well we’re sorry Israel isn’t wiping out the Arabs quickly enough for your tastes. They’ve destroyed almost all of their housing though, so they’ll be able to force them off their land soon enough.
“lowest ever recorded civilian:military death toll in the history of warfare”
You’ve got to be kidding. Or insane. The vast majority of the Gazans killed have been women and children. In fact the Dahiya Doctrine pretty much guarantees it.
Zionism is a genocidal ideology. Anyone doubting this should read the Torah, which made it clear that any non-Israelites – men women and children – in the promised land were to be exterminated.
I can’t speak for others – I couldn’t be bothered to reply to jane baker simply because her comments are so incoherent. It would seem her argument is to quote some Bible word salad so there’s no point anyway – that sort of stuff knows no reason.
Elie Kedourie’s writing is the best on the Middle East and we could do with him now. Sadly he died in 1992. The one subject he did not write about was Israel – its founding and its history (or indeed about the Yishuv’s development under the Mandate). His only detailed work on Palestine after 1918 is a valuable examination of Sir Herbert Samuel’s role as the first British High Commissioner and how he misguidedly appointed Hajj-Amin Husaini as Grand Mufti of Jerusalem in 1921.
I have read ‘The Invention of the Jewish People’ from cover to cover. I will not say it is a flawless book, in particular the second half relies on a theory about mass conversion in Khazaria which has since been debunked, to my knowledge, but the claim that the central argument of the book is that ” the concept of Jews as a distinct people with a shared lineage, culture and homeland didn’t exist until the arrival of 19th-century nationalism” isn’t entirely honest. Sand’s actual hypothesis is that to this day there is no firm basis for Jewish identity that is independent of religion.
Likewise the authors ridicule of a one state solution seems to hold little weight given that the world is full of countries where populations which a history of fighting each other live side by side in an uneasy, but maintained, peace. Not that that really matters, when the Israeli establishment have made it clear over the decades that they themselves have no interest in a two state solution anyway.
I assume Sand’s own stance on the issue must have shifted in recent years, given that he used to be a firm advocate of the two state solution.
useful insight. thanks.
why on earth would Palestinians want to live with their genociders
The author should have made, what is known as, a full disclosure statement that he is of Jewish, very likely zionist, stock, to make clear where he is coming from. He cites myths as facts and peddles half truths and buttresses them with casuistry.
There has never been any large scale expulsion of Jews from the Levant, even the Babylonian exile could not have involved more than 5000 people consisting mainly of the members of the ruling classes, and perhaps a few who wanted to see the world, and find greener pastures, as others did repeatedly in large numbers through the centuries. There has never been any real ban on Jews returning to the Levant either. They just did not want to because nobody compelled them to, until the rise of Hitler. Even most of those who were sent to Palestine by European financiers in the 19th century and later, chose to return to their homes in Europe.
Zionism is a European Christian invention cobbled together to provide a respectable glow to the aim of ridding Europe of the Jews, based first on theological and then on nationalist grounds. John Owen, the English theologian, proposed it in the 17th century. Then came J G Herder (1744 – 1803) and J G Fichte (1762 – 1814). They did not call it Zionism, but their proposals amounted to much the same thing. European Jewry were largely hostile to the idea. Herzl and Zangwill, perhaps because they were already refugees from other parts of Europe, felt differently but were outliers. There was, of course, no call for Zionism outside Europe.
Jewish nationalism is an oxymoron, unless the act of repeated abandonment of one’s ancestral homes can be called nationalism. And the Jewish claim to Palestine is only as strong as the Mafia claim to protection money from the local traders. There are no acceptable rational grounds for it. See:
The Non-Jewish Origins of the Sephardic Jews (Suny Series in Anthropology & Judaic Studies), by div > p:nth-of-type(5) > a”>Paul Wexler
theconversation.com/ashkenazic-jews-mysterious-origins-unravelled-by-scientists-thanks-to-ancient-dna-97962
I have read Shlomo’s books, Shlaim’s, Ilan Pappes, and many others in the last 20 years, I find the idea that a man invented religion has caliam to anything let alone to the right to steal someone else’s country. After all the zionist movement wanted Argentina, Uganda or half of Western Australian before Palestine.
Palestine is the homeland of the Palestinian people, whose right to it must be recognised and honoured. The arrival/return of Jews to Palestine before and after 1948 is a fact so they want to live in Palestine also. A one state solution – called Israel/Palestine, a post apartheid state, is the only solution. Anything else is dressed up nonsense.
Jews have willed their dream of a Jewish state into existence – possibly beyond their widest dreams. But can Jews will the same ethnostate dream onto the Palestinians? It may be possible if the Palestinians had no particular dream future for themselves. But that’s not the case.
The Arab’s have dream’t of reviving the Caliphate for over a hundred years. A few decades ago the Palestinians invented themselves (with Soviet assistance) as an Arab people dedicated to bringing about some Pan-Arab entity that would eliminate the state of Israel.
A Palestinian Arab nation state is a dream held by Israeli and Western progressives but not shared by the majority of Palestinian. For the Palestinians, Gaza was always a stepping stone on the path to the Hamasian vision of the Islamic Caliphate, not an opportunity to build a thriving nation state.
No matter how much willing, some dreams are just delusions. Sand’s Point is that Zionism radically disrupted the concept of Jewishness by making Israel a place where Jews could cease being Jewish to simply become Israeli. Netanyahu’s Point is that all Israelis, Jews and non-Jews alike, must prevail against Hamasian Islamic imperialism or else succumb to it. Both are good points.
YAWN!
This is the lamest argument for a two-state solution that I have ever seen. Nothing beyond special pleading from start to finish.
The invention of jewish book is just rubbish but typical of ethnic conflict where one side tries to dehumanise or delegitimise the other’s identity. Admittedly this narrative comes from an ex-jew who’s tied to the vile ideology of marxism.
If they then went on to delegitimise all identities and stress common humanity fair enough but they don’t. Instead they support palestinian nationalism as valid.
What is it that makes the currently identifying palestinians so unique from lebanese, syrian or jordanian arabs? There’s no unique language and a lot of the cuisine is ottoman. The borders of perceived homeland were actually pikot-sykes creatios.
To be one of these anti-israel marxists you have to believe some identities are more valid than others and that self determination is only for some groups.