On 13 September, Vladimir Putin issued a sobering threat. If Ukraine used Nato-supplied missiles against targets deep inside Russia, the president warned, the alliance would be “directly participating in the conflict” — and the US and its allies would be “fighting with Russia”. Putin’s comments echoed another threat, two years ago, when he drew several ”red lines” for Nato, adding that he was prepared to use nuclear weapons if they were crossed.
Here, then, we have the one of the least welcome developments of the 2020s: the return, after decades of absence, of the terrible spectre of nuclear war. And for those old enough to remember what it was like the first time round — or for their children who’ve watched the clips on YouTube — surely the most disturbing example of what atomic catastrophe might actually look like was first broadcast 40 years ago today. Shown by BBC Two on 23 September 1984, Threads is more horrifying and urgent than ever.
The scenario imagined in Threads is troublingly familiar. After an American-backed coup in a strategically important nation — in this case Iran — the Soviets invade. The US then moves to deploy troops. In unemployment-hit Sheffield, meanwhile, ordinary life goes on. A young couple prepares to become parents. The husband’s middle-aged father has been laid off; his redundancy money will go toward the renovation of the family’s home. Elsewhere, the local council is quietly making preparations in the event of war. Sheffield’s size, and the proximity of RAF Finningley, make the South Yorkshire town a prime target.
It is, by common consent, one of the darkest films ever made. There’s a disturbing sense of logical inevitability about the way the world moves step-by-step toward the precipice. The attack, when it comes, is unflinching, unsentimental and horrifyingly believable.
Writer Barry Hines — best-known for his novel A Kestrel for a Knave — sketches his native milieu with deft assurance. Hines, who died in 2016, was from the mining village of Hoyland, just outside Sheffield. In his career, he often focused on Northern England’s working class, and Threads is no different. As the Iran crisis escalates, for instance, we see protesters taking to the streets in a Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament march (most of the film’s actors were in fact CND members). Days later, there’s a moment of black humour when a speaker at a much more fraught protest calls for a general strike, as if that could have any effect whatsoever. It’s tempting to read the scene as a subtle comment on the eclipse of traditional Left politics in the age of Thatcherism.
Indeed, the whole film takes on added depth when viewed within that context: I think the film’s darkness has its roots not simply in the terrifying subject matter, but also in the broader political context of the Eighties. Labour had taken a radical turn under Michael Foot, with predictably dire consequences for the British Left. In 1983, after all, the Tories won a bumper majority, even as Labour slumped to their worst defeat since 1931. Success at the ballot box in turn ensured that the Thatcherite economic revolution would continue, and that resistance would largely be futile.
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SubscribeThe bigotry against conservatives, who won the cold war without ww3 (unlike our current round of “leaders”) renders the author relying on tropes and historical illiteracy.
It had alot more to do with Gorbachev being in power than conservatives, who were lucky that one of his predecessors was not in charge, that’s the problem with conservatives, arrogant triumphilism. They may not be so lucky next time around.
Unlike the current round of leaders? I didn’t know we were in WW3 currently. Good to know.
I encountered Threads a few years ago on the internet. It is truly a bleak film, but also a great film that likely provides an accurate depiction of nuclear war and its consequences.
There will be no heroism after a nuclear war, only a base struggle for survival. Perhaps we’ve all forgotten the panic and petty squabbles at the beginning of the pandemic when there was a temporary shortage of toilet paper.
there was a temporary shortage of toilet paper
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Some people didn’t panic for a second.
Tell that to the people who are probably still using toilet paper they bought before lockdown!
Unherd seems to commission articles which coincide with the anniversary of cultural events, and clearly this article is one of them. Although very much interested in the kind of programme written about here, i have little recall of Threads although i do remember watching When The Wind Blows a couple of years later.
I wonder how much the author of this piece really has his finger on the pulse of the mid-80s? He’s looking at that period without being “present” at the time. Thus, his classifying of Sheffield as a town (it’s a major post-industrial city, renowned for its steel-making) reveals his lack of grasp of his subject, particularly as he’s approaching it from a left-of-centre stance.
Still, his attempt to update the topic of nuclear war for today’s political scene isn’t entirely unsuccessful. He’s right that it’s a subject that’d almost completely fallen off the radar until Putin’s incursion into Ukraine.
I would have been 12 at the time Threads came out and I can still remember some of the scenes. It was utterly horrifying and bleak.
Where the wind blows was the animated one with the old couple? Much softer. There was also an American film around the same time as Threads that didn’t hit anything like as hard – IIRC people just vapourised instead of suffered.
The American one was The Day After. ABC broadcast it in ‘83. I agree, it’s not up to Threads’ level, though it’s still worth watching for me. There are some vivid and memorable scenes, such as the one — both chilling and oddly serene — of the Minuteman missiles setting off.
One of the few Programmes that generates vivid memories, even nightmares, decades later. Difficult to forget the central character giving birth alone on a muddy floor of farm barn. And back then we only had a few channels and fewer distractions so everyone old enough to still be up watched it. Can distinctly remember talking about it at school next day with classmates and teacher.
The horror of course didn’t generate the same policy reaction in everyone. CND got a boost but so importantly did strong deterrence and the latter won out in the end.
“Difficult to forget the central character giving birth alone on a muddy floor of farm barn”
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It’s strange that you were so shocked by this. Women often gave birth in much more unsuitable conditions. Life can be very unpleasant.
I think that the shock came not only from the woman giving birth in unsuitable conditions but that the newborn had been poisoned by radioactive fallout. As I’d not long given birth at the time, that scene had a visceral effect on me and lives in my memory to this day. Like you say life can be very unpleasant.
I understand your shock, but just for your knowledge – wildlife flourishes in the Chernobyl Exclusion Zone.
Living conditions can be terrible, but one should not underestimate human resilience (it’s also about your own resilience, women can be exceptionally strong when needed).
I watched Threads for the first time about a year ago. Mesmerizing and horrifying, it occurred to me that the hideous collapse of civilization portrayed in the film is currently the goal of organizations like Just Stop Oil, Antifa, BLM, and many of the West’s governments. They scare me far more than nukes.
Really, how ridiculous that sounds
Social Democrats are largely to blame for the demise of British manufacturing. Bloated and corrupt unions, and irresponsible legislators and civil servants, very nearly turned the nation that defeated Hitler into a soup kitchen. (America was in a similarly if slightly less bleak economic condition after decades of leftist economic and regulatory policies.)
British craftsmanship for the very wealthy remains sui generis in its quality and beauty – Holland & Holland, Turnbull & Asser, Rolls Royce and Aston Martin – but Social Democrats obliterated mass production and scalable innovation. The latter can produce large numbers of jobs alongside useful goods and services. The former can only make a few very nice things, for a very lucky few.
Thatcher saved the UK economy by encouraging finance, technology, and consumerism, and allowing the private sector to flourish. She saved her nation from economic ruin.
Social Democrats, particularly in the industrial North, closed their own factories by forcing them to be uncompetitive, inefficient, and hide bound.
A factory that’s making money doesn’t close. A manufacturer that’s losing money inevitably will.
Insofar as foreign policy is concerned, men like Putin will ignore countries that can’t afford missile batteries, aircraft carriers, long range bombers, nuclear submarines, and tank divisions. Men like that will do as they please to the militarily weak.
Militaries cost money. That money needs to be generated by the private sector, or at the very least spent or somehow financed by the public sector. Neither option is available to countries impoverished by socialism.
Britain and lately America have chosen butter over guns, with a resurgent Russia and a bellicose China as the predictable results.
Contemplating nuclear war is depressing, so I’ll quickly add that Barry Hines wrote one of my favourite books growing up – The Blinder.
I remember watching the US version (The Day After) of this in the early 80’s it was terrifying enough, then I saw Threads about a decade later and I can still remember scenes from this movie. Luckily, I viewed this film after the Reagan and Thatcher had won the Cold war their “peace thru superior firepower stance and the myth of “Star Wars”. Unfortunately, that victory has been squandered since, by mediocre politicians looking out for their own self-interest instead of the Nations they portend to lead. And once again another generation must experience the sphere of the nuclear nightmare.
Despite the gloom and horror of Threads, the 1980s were a saner time. No British prime minister and his foreign secretary would have gone to Washington to discuss firing missiles into Russia. No other president would have asked for permission to do it.
No British foreign secretary would have addressed the Labour Party at Conference and, apparently feeling lucky, declared that all we needed was ‘guts’ to give such permission. Thatcher, for all her shortcomings, used her brains. Nuclear war was probably less likely in her time when she was not in favour of Ukrainian independence and NATO was unconcerned about Russia’s dominance of Eastern Europe.
If Threads were screened today, Hines would be denounced as a Putin apologist.
*Refusing to bow to the Left’s endless shrieking that we must not resist totalitarianism lest it bring disaster is what actually ended the Soviet Axis of Evil and eased the decades of fear that it (not the West) inflicted on the world.
With the firepower at the disposal of the soldiery today, wars involving NATO and Russia are likely to produce scenes as bleak as those in Threads, even without the use of nuclear weapons.
It’s obvious that Sir Keith ‘reckless, posturing Bear-poker’ Starmer has decided to cancel Winter Fuel Payments because he’s determined to make sure that the next one lasts until 2092.
Hines must have thought the effect of Thatcher on Britain was like that of the H-Bomb. From his Northern and left-wing point of view, the opposite to Betjeman’s friendly bombs falling on Slough.
One doesn’t have to consider nuclear war to ponder dire effects on the human body or on human life. Dementia. Cancer in infants. Injuries that render the patient unable to control their bodily functions.
There doesn’t have to be a nuclear war for a country to have an economy that is pre-industrial. Some areas of Detroit might look like the municipalities of the Western Roman Empire after the withering of its economy and centralised power. The empty apartment buildings. The abandoned houses full of the previous owners possessions. Elsewhere, the migrants living in tents, not in villas with expensive mosaics and central heating.
Nor does a country have had to have endured a nuclear war to have a substantial youthful population. Consider countries such as Uganda. This was the norm in early societies.
Note that Hines begins his story with a US-backed coup. Not the Soviet shock army invading West Germany. But today there is a country that couldn’t be more strategically important to both sides, and which had a coup during which senior American officials were present.
Threads is surely optimistic. And if Hines was really commenting on the ‘nuclear winter’ of Thatcher’s economic and industrial policies, that was necessary to illustrate the bleakness of such. For bleakness to be experienced, something has to survive. The television drama that depicted the UK after leaving the European Union, as having fallen into a netherworld, was distinctly of the same oeuvre as Threads.
After a nuclear war, the end of world trade and finance, together with the obliteration of all electronics now essential in the life of a country, would result in no one to survive too long. Nevertheless, the world would Green again, and life would be set on a different evolutionary path, having been freed from the suppressing effect of the dominance of one species, in the present case, homo sapiens. Such events, though natural, have happened before.
In a religious age without accurate medicine and where life was short ordinarily, Hines would have written Revelation. Read the detail of the scourge of war and pestilence and, not least, the effect of the collapse of trade on the imperial centre. The inevitability of the progress of the story in Threads is all there; as is the w***e of Babylon (Thatcher). Part of the unspoken inevitability in Threads being that the power of allies lies in the fact that the USA’s allies have no power.
But there’s an alternative view from the 1980s. The late Billy Graham, famous evangelical, appeared at that time on the BBC’s chat show hosted by the late Terry Wogan. Graham expressed his view that if the human race attempted to start a nuclear war, God would intervene to stop it.
Graham based this scenario on the biblical text that Jehovah promised not to send another flood to wipe out humanity. And rather like the people in Threads, the Gospels have Jesus of Nazareth observing that everyone was going about their ordinary lives, making preparations for their future, when the flood suddenly overtook them all.
If logic is applied to Graham’s argument, two alternatives follow. Firstly, God might have stopped such a war already, but not revealed Himself. Secondly, that the one sure way to get God to intervene directly and possibly visibly in the world would be to launch all the missiles.
There was also humour in the 1980s, absent from Threads, in the form of the cartoon that depicted US and Soviet generals as flashers, opening their trench coats to expose their missiles to each other.
But for Rapture, Hines would have to wait for Sir Anthony Blair, KG, WMD, $$$, and New Labour, the embodiment of both the British people and of God.
FYI the deployment of cruise missles at GC were a response to the wide scale deployment of SS-20 intermediate range ballistic missles in Europe from 1976 onwards.
Not sure what the author wants the takeaway from the article to be. Hopefully not that we should give in to every insane demand made by a warmongering tyrant who has a nuclear arsenal.
Threads frightened me witless when it screened during my mid-teens. It wouldn’t now, now that we understand radiation just isn’t anywhere near as damaging as was thought then.
Perhaps, but the consequences of the inevitable social breakdown that would follow would make life quite difficult. (see comment above re: pandemic and toilet paper)
Wrong. Fallout from radiation remains deadly. Another major factor (not widely known when Threads was aired) was Nuclear Winter, arguably a much more existential factor.
It can be deadly, yes, but nowhere near to the extent that was thought. https://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/22/opinion/fear-vs-radiation-the-mismatch.html
And nuclear winter was quite well known when Threads screened, Carl Sagan having brought the idea to prominence the previous year.