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The case for a long reset with Russia Washington will need allies in the fight against China

A Ukrainian artillery team near the Toretsk frontline (Kostiantyn Liberov/Libkos/Getty Images)

A Ukrainian artillery team near the Toretsk frontline (Kostiantyn Liberov/Libkos/Getty Images)


August 29, 2024   6 mins

As the bold Ukrainian assault into Kursk Oblast enters its third week, the general mood in the West is one of triumph. The offensive, we’re told, vindicates the wisdom of the transatlantic liberal establishment in supporting Kyiv. Suddenly, a Russian victory no longer seems inevitable.

The truth, however, is that the Kursk incursion does not fundamentally alter the reality on the ground: this conflict is one of attrition, which, in the long run, still favours the larger power over the smaller. Rather than celebrate, then, Kyiv’s allies, in particular the United States, would be wise to use this turn of fortune as pretext to pressure both sides into seeking an end to the war — the better for Washington to be able to pursue its own larger strategic interests.

But how might it achieve this? Whether Democrat or Republican, the incoming administration will preside over a four-year period which could see the return of peace in Europe and the opportunity to shape the terms of a settlement with the Kremlin. Given intensifying competition with China and the unthinkable consequences entailed by an American defeat, US leadership would be remiss if it did not treat this eventuality as a cue to shift the balance of power. Or, as the prescient John J. Mearsheimer explained in 2022: “If you live in a world where there are three great powers — China, Russia, and the United States — and one of those great powers, China, is a peer competitor, what you want to do if you’re the United States is have Russia on your side of the ledger.”

Such a scenario would recall the foreign policies of two past presidents. First, it would represent a “reverse Nixon” in which Washington tries to cleave Russia away from China as Richard Nixon and Henry Kissinger cleaved Maoist China from the Soviet Union; and second, an attempt to enact a far more successful version of Barack Obama’s ill-fated Russia Reset. This time, however, the stakes are higher and the circumstances much more difficult than both scenarios, given the strong alliance between Russia and China. Yet insights from history can always be adapted to forge a fitting strategy for the current situation: the question is how?

Most obviously, a negotiated settlement in the form of an armistice — akin to that which ended the Korean War, in which the fighting ceased without definitive recognition of the belligerent’s competing territorial claims — may serve as an expedient conclusion to the war. The two sides could be made to return to something close to pre-2022 ante, which would regrettably allow continuing Russian control over Crimea and rule out the prospect of Nato membership for Kyiv, yet would preserve the existence of a sizeable and sovereign Ukrainian state. Such an outcome would please no one, but at the very least Putin’s ambition of conquering the whole of Ukraine would have been thwarted. There is also a parallel here with Nixon’s strategy when the Republic of China on Taiwan, formerly a key ally, had to be relegated in importance, as Ukraine may soon be, before the larger strategic goal of courting Beijing.

But will this be enough? After all, the US must prepare for the prospect of a long reset, one that will take more than just pressing a shiny button, as Hillary Clinton seemed to want to do, or even more than a future president’s visit to the Kremlin to shake hands with Putin, as with Nixon and Mao. This is because, as noted, unlike in 1972, when ideological differences in the Sino-Soviet Split kept the two communist giants apart, Putin’s Russia and Xi’s China are today in the midst of a so-called “partnership without limits”, which had been declared at a meeting between the two in early 2022. Just as the Biden administration has attempted to characterise the current geopolitical situation as a confrontation between democracies and autocracies, so too have Putin and Xi christened their bond as a bulwark against Western liberal hegemony.

“The US must prepare for the prospect of a long reset, one that will take more than just pressing a shiny button.”

In other words, anti-Americanism is the glue that holds their informal alliance together; yet take that particular element out of the equation and the picture of Sino-Russian friendship begins to look a lot more uncertain. This is because Russia and China are not natural allies and there are a number of vulnerabilities underlying their relationship that an intelligent American geostrategy can exploit:

To begin with, a longstanding sense of mistrust has persisted between these very distinct civilisations with sparse people-to-people ties, who are separated from each other by a vast 2,568-mile militarised border. There is also the aspect of ressentiment that arises out of any asymmetrical relationship: Russia, previously the dominant partner, has been relegated to junior status, and is now far more dependent on China for investment than the other way around. Even as Moscow leans into integration with China as a way to make up for lost Western trade, Chinese interest in Russia’s natural gas and industrial inputs is belied by Beijing’s strategy of diversifying energy and resource markets, such as through large investments in renewables. Unsurprisingly, Chinese investment in Russian pipeline projects in Siberia has fallen short of expectations. China also relied on Russia for its cheap weapons exports but has since become self-sufficient with the maturation of its own arms industries.

Meanwhile, resource-rich Central Asia has also seen expansion of Chinese presence, through Beijing’s Belt and Road Initiative (BRI), which would link the landlocked former Soviet republics there into a broader Chinese-dominated trade order. Russia officially supports this and Putin has been a major presence at BRI summits, yet Moscow has struggled to sustain its own integration efforts with the Eurasian Economic Union, which has flailed since its launch in 2015 as a vehicle for the reassertion of Russian influence in an area it still sees as its sphere of influence.

A new American strategy toward Russia for the latter half of the 2020s and beyond would seize on these weak spots in Sino-Russian relations. It would call for the progressive lifting of sanctions and gradual reintegration of Russia into Western trade, finance, and energy markets, alongside channelling Western capital into Russia to address its critical investment gaps in technology and infrastructure.

This is, of course, easier said than done. While Russian elites will only be too happy to be allowed back into the West’s banks and luxury shopping malls, the Russian state, whether under an ageing Putin or his successor, will likely be far more cautious, if not wary; Moscow will no doubt try to play off the Americans and Chinese against each other while benefiting from the largesse of both.

This will call for strategic patience on the part of Washington, which should aim to manage the residual tensions between the Kremlin and European allies, while encouraging Moscow to begin to assert itself against China in Central Asia. The US can also aim to integrate Russia with the bloc of Indo-Pacific states it is assembling — by, for instance, brokering deals and securing new customers for Russian energy and arms among the rising Indo-Pacific powers, whose defence capabilities the US is already looking to bolster as a counter to China’s growing military might.

A renewed Russo-American entente, however, would be most fruitful in a region that will only become more important in the decades ahead, namely the Arctic, where receding ice coverage will open new zones for shipping and resource exploration. China and Russia have worked towards the establishment of a “Polar Silk Road” which would give Beijing a presence in the polar north, where otherwise it would have none. The US should aggressively try to head off this possibility by making it a paramount strategic goal to ensure a “China-free Arctic”. It can only do this, however, if it can eventually convince the Russians to substitute Chinese for Western capital and technical assistance as a means of developing this vast untapped frontier. The best-case scenario would be to have an Arctic maritime trade region, managed exclusively by Russia and the Western Arctic powers, to bypass China’s BRI, through which certain resources and goods can be traded across continents without touching Chinese-controlled infrastructure.

At a time of severe tension between Russia and the West, such projections may seem fantastical. But stranger things have happened: China’s transition from the most fanatically anti-American power to Washington’s partner was Nixon’s great feat, and the next president can start to do the same with Russia. With his expressed desire for mending ties with Moscow, Donald Trump would seem best suited to enact such a policy, but a Harris-led reproachment would actually embody the analogy better, since it was the dramatic turnaround after years as a Cold War hawk that made Nixon’s gambit such a political masterstroke: “Only Nixon can go to China,” as the saying went. One wonders if Kamala Harris can pull off a comparable pivot.

Only now, Americans will have to forgo the liberal triumphalism that proved to be so naïve in the recent past. Russia will likely persist as a distinct world civilisation and must be treated as such, even if it means countenancing its perennially illiberal forms of government. For the question of the next half-century will not be whether American political norms shall triumph over the earth, but whether America itself can survive this coming era of great power competition; and in this race, values must give way to interests and woolly-headed idealism to the coldest realism.


Michael Cuenco is a writer on policy and politics. He is Associate Editor at American Affairs.
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Michael Cazaly
Michael Cazaly
16 days ago

Yes it is what should happen…but won’t.
The US ruling Neocons won’t change and Russia wouldn’t trust the USA anyway.
As Tod forecast, the US empire is dying but it’s rulers don’t realise it, despite the clear evidence of overstretch. And dying empires are exceptionally dangerous to others.

Martin M
Martin M
16 days ago
Reply to  Michael Cazaly

If the US “empire” dies, hopefully it can take Russia with it.

David L
David L
16 days ago
Reply to  Martin M

It’s more.likely to take all of us with it.

Brett H
Brett H
16 days ago
Reply to  David L

Man will live on in his most deformed form.

Martin M
Martin M
16 days ago
Reply to  David L

Ok. I was born during the Cuban Missile Crisis, and apart from the brief period when Gorbachev was in power, war with Russia seemed a very real possibility for the entire duration of my life. In fact, I am quite surprised it hasn’t happened already. On the basis that it is going to happen at some point, now is probably as good a time as any.

Brett H
Brett H
16 days ago
Reply to  Martin M

Why should it happen at some point. What grounds do you have to think that?

Martin M
Martin M
16 days ago
Reply to  Brett H

Because Russia is safe to say always led by a warmongering tyrant, and it shares precisely zero values with the West.

Brett H
Brett H
16 days ago
Reply to  Martin M

Yeah, you keep saying that; they don’t have the same values. But that’s a fact of life. How does that affect you?

UnHerd Reader
UnHerd Reader
16 days ago
Reply to  Martin M

Historical ignorance makes cute sounding word bites.

Peter Buchan
Peter Buchan
16 days ago
Reply to  Martin M

Please provide a list of countries attacked by Russia, whether directly – or indirectly through intrigue and regime change – over the past 200 years. Yes, there are several. Now do the same for the USA and NATO. Now compare side by side.
There. Helped you.

Andrew F
Andrew F
16 days ago
Reply to  Peter Buchan

What country did NATO attack?
Russia started ww2 together with Hitler by attacking Poland.
Then attacked and occupied Baltic States.
Then attacked Finland and Romania.
Then occupied Eastern Europe for 45 years.
Invaded Hungary in 1956 and Czechoslovakia in 1968.
Russia conducted genocidal campaign in Czechnia and then attacked Georgia in 2008.
The same in Ukraine in 2014 and 2022.
Pro Russian clowns on here and elsewhere did not answer one basic question.
Why did Finland and Sweden join NATO?
Obviously because Russia is such a peaceful and friendly neighbour.

Ian Wigg
Ian Wigg
16 days ago
Reply to  Andrew F

What country did NATO attack?

Well one NATO country did unilaterally invade the sovereign territory of a fellow NATO country and supposed ally (technically an act of war.)

Andrew Fisher
Andrew Fisher
12 days ago
Reply to  Ian Wigg

Are you talking about Turkey and Cyprus?

Martin M
Martin M
15 days ago
Reply to  Andrew F

Thanks for that. Saved me the trouble.

Michael McElwee
Michael McElwee
15 days ago
Reply to  Andrew F

But you’re conflating the Soviet regime for the now Russian regime. It is like conflating the left and the right.

Peter B
Peter B
15 days ago

Noise.
Russia was the dominant state within the Soviet Union and took almost all those decisions.
But since you’re asking, since 1991 we’ve had:
Moldova (illegal occupation of “Transnistria”)
Georgia (ilegal occupation of parts of northern Georgia)
Ukraine (2014, 2022)
Syria
Is that enough for you ?
Plus cyber attacks against several countries, including Estonia.
It’s not exactly “a good look”, is it ?

Jim C
Jim C
8 days ago
Reply to  Peter B

Stalin was Georgian, and there were as many Ukrainian Politburo members as there were Russian. Saying Russia was the “dominant” state of the USSR is like saying Germany is the “dominant” state of the EU, or California the “dominant” state of the USA; it may be a reasonable assertion but it’s irrelevant.
Russia hasn’t “invaded” Moldova
Georgia attacked Russian peacekeepers in breakaway regions and got “invaded” in the sense it got pushed back out. And Russia didn’t continue occupying it once the campaign was over.
It certainly hasn’t invaded Syria; it was invited in by the internationally recognised government.
Ironically, the US – the dominant state within NATO – invaded Syria and is currently illegally occupying around a third of it, specifically to starve the Syrian government of grain and oil.

And never mind the NATO bombardment of Serbia, Libya, supplying “moderate” jihadis with weapons in Syria, endless (and against sworn assurances) expansion Eastward…

Andrew Fisher
Andrew Fisher
12 days ago
Reply to  Peter Buchan

I notice that you do not meet the challenge that you set your interlocutor on this argument! Surely there is no historic doubt that Muscovy as it originally was, was an expansionist territorial power for hundreds of years. It didn’t just expand to include the East Slavic Russian speaking communities, but the Baltic states, Crimea occupied by the Tartars, vast Muslim areas of central Asia, and of course most of Poland.

200 years ago the US was an isolated state on the other side of an ocean from the old world, with great potential but that was all. I presume then you were talking about US intervention since the second world war when it did become the world’s greatest power. But these interventions were overwhelmingly in the context of a Cold War fought with a powerful totalitarian adversary. I’m very pleased and you ought to be that the West “won”, though tragically defeated in various theatres. The Marxist Leninist regimes killed tens of millions of people in their own countries; there is simply no moral or ethical comparison at all with the United States or other western states. There’s absolutely no historical inevitability about Western liberalism prevailing in Western Europe if the United States had not been more robust – France and Italy had very strong communist parties.

Then we have the more modern post Cold War “liberal” interventions over issues like Bosnia, Sierra Leone and Iraq. There is a huge amount to go through here, we could have say that some were successful but others bigger ones were disasters, in the case of Iraq a huge geopolitical own goal, strengthening Iran which is certainly an adversarial country to the West (by its ideology and choice) as well it’s been Direct threat to international neutral shipping. Of course also an ally of Russia. In the case of Libya there was a real and president threat of a massacre, unless we forget a lot of political pressure to intervene. Whatever the reasons for these interventions, they aren’t going to be repeated now.

Which doesn’t mean to say that I prefer living in a totalitarian or arbitrary authoritarian tyranny where journalists regularly disappear and political opponents get murdered in prison and there is zero political freedom.

Glynis Roache
Glynis Roache
16 days ago
Reply to  Martin M

Zero values? Haven’t you ever read Tolstoy or Dostoevsky or Chekhov ? Or listened to Tchaikovsky or Rimsky-Korsakov? Watched Swan Lake or The Nutcracker?

Dave Canuck
Dave Canuck
16 days ago
Reply to  Glynis Roache

Admittedly they were much better off under the tsars, that was the heyday of Russian culture, but in the last 150 years not so much, it all fell apart with WW1 and the 1917 revolution and the disastrous communist takeover, and Stalin.

Martin M
Martin M
15 days ago
Reply to  Dave Canuck

Catherine the Great was by all accounts an enlightened ruler. She was however German. Not a drop of Russian blood in her.

Martin M
Martin M
15 days ago
Reply to  Glynis Roache

The few times I have attempted the so called great Russian authors, I have found them impenetrable. I am not into classical music, and while I can appreciate ballet in one sense, I wouldn’t spend any time watching it.

D Walsh
D Walsh
16 days ago
Reply to  Martin M

What country do you live in Martin ? and what year is it ?
Because I think you must be a blind man living in the past, all the superior values you think the West has, but Russia is some how lacking, are now gone, its time to wake up pal, the Russians are NOT our enemy, our enemies are the idiot establishment destroying the West, hating Putin does nothing to fix our own problems

Martin M
Martin M
15 days ago
Reply to  D Walsh

Don’t tell me, let me guess: If only we could get rid of all this “wokery”, the world would be a fine place, right?

Martin M
Martin M
15 days ago
Reply to  Brett H

.

David L
David L
16 days ago
Reply to  Martin M

I take it you will be volunteering yourself and your children to fight?

Martin M
Martin M
15 days ago
Reply to  David L

I am an overweight almost 62 year old, so I am unlikely to be required by the infantry. Maybe I could pilot a drone. As to children, I haven’t got any.

Michael Cazaly
Michael Cazaly
16 days ago
Reply to  Martin M

The Cuban Missile Crisis was precipitated by the USA putting nuclear armed missiles in Turkey.

The Ukraine Crisis has been precipitated by NATO reneging on the promise not to expand East…and then putting missiles in Poland… to counter Iranian missiles lol…

Russia was never going to allow NATO in Ukraine as the USA didn’t allow the Warsaw Pact in Cuba.

Let’s try leaving Russia well alone.

Martin M
Martin M
15 days ago
Reply to  Michael Cazaly

When do we stop “leaving it alone”? When its troops march into Vilnius? Berlin? Paris?

UnHerd Reader
UnHerd Reader
16 days ago
Reply to  Martin M

If Russia and thecUSA both die, most of Europe will be long gone. But heck, Europe is self-liquidating anyway.

Martin M
Martin M
15 days ago
Reply to  UnHerd Reader

Someone will survive somewhere.

Lancashire Lad
Lancashire Lad
16 days ago
Reply to  Michael Cazaly

Yes, we know the leaderships in Washington, Bejing and Moscow won’t ‘trust’ each other, but that’s entirely missing the realpolitic point, pretty well explored in this article.

Seeking to reset the balance of powers is something which would properly focus the US over the coming decades, away from seeking a state of hegemony which no longer exists, and could also have a significant impact on its domestic problems which are in dire need of a reset.

Martin M
Martin M
16 days ago
Reply to  Lancashire Lad

I prefer Ronald Reagan’s take on it: “My version of how the Cold War ends is we win, and they lose”.

D Walsh
D Walsh
16 days ago
Reply to  Martin M

Americans spend decades fighting the Soviet Union, only to become a gay version of it

Martin M
Martin M
15 days ago
Reply to  D Walsh

Ah, you are a homophobe? Check!

Michael Cazaly
Michael Cazaly
16 days ago
Reply to  Lancashire Lad

The realpolitik point is quite simply that the reset won’t happen…that’s it…

Wishing that something happen because it would be nice won’t make it happen…

Lancashire Lad
Lancashire Lad
16 days ago
Reply to  Michael Cazaly

Isn’t that what you’re doing, in a negative way?

(Rhetorical question)

Michael Cazaly
Michael Cazaly
16 days ago
Reply to  Lancashire Lad

No it really isn’t, actually.

My view is that the USA’s paranoia about Russia…or is it the Neocon’s greed…or possibly the last phase of extreme capitalism as some would have it (I’m undecided about that but it certainly has the hallmarks of Marx’s theory…unfortunately…) has destabilised the “world system”.

The hegemony the USA craved would never last long and the attempt to maintain it would always cause problems for others…but also the USA.

I think it will become isolationist and do very well from it. Europe will, eventually, come to a modus vivendi with Russia..but the main, and dominant, power will be China with Russia as a junior but important partner.

The important thing is to avoid a direct war between “the West” and Russia. It will go nuclear very quickly…at which point Western Europe including the UK ceases to exist in any meaningful way.

Martin M
Martin M
15 days ago
Reply to  Michael Cazaly

Perhaps we could engineer a direct war between Russia and China. I hear China has designs on Eastern Siberia.

William Shaw
William Shaw
16 days ago
Reply to  Michael Cazaly

The population of both China and Russia will collapse catastrophically in the coming decades.
Neither country will be capable of competing with the USA.

Brett H
Brett H
16 days ago
Reply to  William Shaw

“The population of both China and Russia will collapse catastrophically in the coming decades.”
How so?

Billy Bob
Billy Bob
16 days ago
Reply to  Brett H

Their birth rates are well below replacement level, and highly skilled immigration into those countries is almost non existent. China especially has grown old before it’s had chance to grow rich

Brett H
Brett H
16 days ago
Reply to  Billy Bob

I guess for countries with falling population numbers, and there’s a few, new economies are called for. I wonder what form they might take.

UnHerd Reader
UnHerd Reader
16 days ago
Reply to  Brett H

Look at the West…the emerging monster is our future..

Peter B
Peter B
15 days ago
Reply to  Billy Bob

Exactly.
And the killer is that people are queuing up to leave these countries to go somewhere better. And no one wants to migrate to them. I wonder why that might be ?
We’re well past peak Russia. It’s in terminal decline now. I think we’re just passing peak China. Meanwhile, the US population is continuing to grow. And talented people continue to choose to migrate to the US. Sorry US haters – US “decline” ain’t happening.

UnHerd Reader
UnHerd Reader
16 days ago
Reply to  Brett H

Not enough babies. An even darker, more cynical way to look at the immigration war the Western ” leaders” are waging against their citizens is that it is a “quick” way to offset the demographic slide of the West.

D Walsh
D Walsh
16 days ago
Reply to  William Shaw

The population of the west will be replaced with infinity immigration from Africa and the middle east, China and Russia will continue to be China and Russia

Samir Iker
Samir Iker
15 days ago
Reply to  William Shaw

You mean the Islamic republic of America?

Jeff Cunningham
Jeff Cunningham
16 days ago
Reply to  Michael Cazaly

One of the last empires to “die” was England’s. Were they exceptionally dangerous to others?

Michael Cazaly
Michael Cazaly
16 days ago

Not the last by a long way but definitely dangerous

Phil Day
Phil Day
16 days ago

Unless you want Russia to come back in a few years for another bite at the Ukranian cherry l see no alternative to providing NATO protection following any ceasefire (l do think Europe should shoulder more of the responsibility for this though).
Russia has been the neighbour from hell ever since it’s birth and knows no other way to behave.

Martin M
Martin M
16 days ago
Reply to  Phil Day

Absolutely correct. Any “peace” negotiated is going to have to be enforced by NATO, because to trust Putin would be idiocy.

Brett H
Brett H
16 days ago
Reply to  Martin M

Which is the very thing that antagonises Putin. So that means no peace. When are you going to see this?

Martin M
Martin M
16 days ago
Reply to  Brett H

Hey, I’m good with a full on NATO v Russia war. We might as well get it done, because Russia isn’t going to go away.

Brett H
Brett H
16 days ago
Reply to  Martin M

Exactly, they’re not going away

Martin M
Martin M
16 days ago
Reply to  Brett H

Well, let’s use our best endeavours to cripple their economy, and get them into a war with China then.

Brett H
Brett H
16 days ago
Reply to  Martin M

Why not just find a way to co-exist?

Martin M
Martin M
16 days ago
Reply to  Brett H

Not possible, I’m afraid. Russia doesn’t share the US’ values, and never will.

Brett H
Brett H
16 days ago
Reply to  Martin M

Let’s look at some US values: Iraq, Vietnam, Central America, Cambodia, Bay of Pigs.

Martin M
Martin M
15 days ago
Reply to  Brett H

Let’s look at some others: Freedom, Democracy, the Rule of Law.

Brett H
Brett H
15 days ago
Reply to  Martin M

Yes Martin, I know how different the two countries are. But why do you care?

Brett H
Brett H
16 days ago
Reply to  Martin M

But the US has used its best efforts to cripple their economy and failed.

Martin M
Martin M
16 days ago
Reply to  Brett H

It needs to redouble its efforts.

D Walsh
D Walsh
16 days ago
Reply to  Martin M

So far you have got everything you wanted, but it has done you no good, you seem unable to see the reality of the situation

Martin M
Martin M
15 days ago
Reply to  D Walsh

I see the reality of the situation. 30 US long range missiles targeted to Russia’s oil production and distribution facilities would severely dent its ability to earn money. Let’s do that, and see how its economy holds up.

Brett H
Brett H
15 days ago
Reply to  Martin M

So the warmonger steps up from his bedroom.

Vesselina Zaitzeva
Vesselina Zaitzeva
16 days ago
Reply to  Martin M

*He said from faraway Australia.
It’s very easy to be radical if something will not affect you at all, isn’t it?

Brett H
Brett H
16 days ago

I’m not sure who that’s directed at.

Vesselina Zaitzeva
Vesselina Zaitzeva
16 days ago
Reply to  Brett H

Sorry, it seems I was not very clear.
It was a reply to Martin M. who mentioned some time ago that he’s in Australia.
I believe that if someone is in Europe, they might not take such an enthusiastic stance vis-a-vis a prospect of a NATO-Russia war.
At the very least, I am sure about myself that I am far from being enthusiastic about such a prospect (in addition to being anti-war in principle)

Brett H
Brett H
16 days ago

Thanks.

Lewis Eliot
Lewis Eliot
16 days ago

….he might be less enthusiastic if he re-read ‘On the Beach’!

Vesselina Zaitzeva
Vesselina Zaitzeva
16 days ago
Reply to  Lewis Eliot

Maybe this would help, indeed…
Who knows…
No one is beyond redemption, as they say.

Martin M
Martin M
15 days ago

I was born in October 1962, during the Cuban Missile Crisis, and I was born in the UK, which (unlike Australia) would have been a “first strike” nuclear target. My life could therefore have easily ended in its first week. Apart from a brief period under Gorbachev, Russia has been a problem through my entire life, and I have seen nothing that suggests that it won’t always be a problem going forward. You don’t deal with tyrants by bowing down to them. That makes things worse, not better.

Martin M
Martin M
15 days ago
Reply to  Lewis Eliot

I’ve read “On the Beach”. Seen the movie too. Just because I an a “NeoCon” doesn’t mean I’m a philistine.

Brett H
Brett H
15 days ago
Reply to  Martin M

But you are, Martin.

Martin M
Martin M
15 days ago

Yes, I do indeed live in Australia, although I am British by birth. The fact is that I am not in favour of appeasing tyrants. That didn’t work in 1938, and it won’t work now. Neville Chamberlain’s cowardice brought no good to the world then. The cowardice of his spiritual descendants will bring no good to the world now.

Jeff Cunningham
Jeff Cunningham
16 days ago

The most strident war hawks are generally too far away and too old to fight.

Vesselina Zaitzeva
Vesselina Zaitzeva
16 days ago

Oh yes, the less one could be affected, the easier it is for them to support whatever radical idea…

Martin M
Martin M
15 days ago

Well, had you known me as a young man, you would know that I have mellowed considerably since then. Luckily those were the days when Reagan and Thatcher ran things.

Alex Lekas
Alex Lekas
16 days ago
Reply to  Martin M

Are you “good” enough for such a war to be more than a keyboard warrior? That war made no sense when the Soviet Union existed; it makes even less sense now.

Martin M
Martin M
15 days ago
Reply to  Alex Lekas

Sure. I am a bit to old to be sticking bayonets into people, but give me the “missile launch” button, and I’ll push it.

Bernard Davis
Bernard Davis
16 days ago
Reply to  Martin M

Come back and repeat that when your skin is hanging off and you are bleeding to death through the rectum from radiation poisoning.. And your family too, if you have one. Words are cheap, mein kleine deutscher Kerl

Martin M
Martin M
15 days ago
Reply to  Bernard Davis

Perhaps you can have that conversation with the Ukrainians. They can explain why being raped, tortured and murdered by the Russians isn’t much fun, and you can explain why you are too much of a coward to help them.

Martin M
Martin M
15 days ago
Reply to  Brett H

I see it, but I have no difficulty with antagonising Putin. I’d frankly do more of it.

Brett H
Brett H
15 days ago
Reply to  Martin M

Well you’re already antagonising him and it’s going nowhere except conflict in Ukraine and global uneasiness.

Peter B
Peter B
15 days ago
Reply to  Brett H

Be serious. He hasn’t got time to waste reading the UnHerd comments … . I think he’s got quite a large number of real problems to deal with right now. Mostly of his own creation however.

Brett H
Brett H
15 days ago
Reply to  Peter B

I wasn’t suggesting the comments on Unherd would antagonise Putin but that Martin’s neocons and NATO were antagonising him.

Peter B
Peter B
15 days ago
Reply to  Brett H

Apologies. But it does literally read like you think Martin’s comments are on Putin’s reading list. I do try to take the comments literally and not make stuff up.

Brett H
Brett H
15 days ago
Reply to  Peter B

That’s fine. We do need to pay attention to saying things clearly.

Martin M
Martin M
14 days ago
Reply to  Peter B

Well, I’m not planning to holiday in Russia anytime soon, so if Putin is reading my comments, I doubt it is a big problem.

Martin M
Martin M
16 days ago

Only Nixon can go to China,” as the saying went. One wonders if Kamala Harris can pull off a comparable pivot“. If Harris goes to Moscow, then she is very foolish. Russia is a far greater enemy than China, and that isn’t going to change anytime soon. Harris should concentrate on driving a wedge between Russia and China, and between Russia and the “Stans”.

Brett H
Brett H
16 days ago

“the liberal triumphalism that proved to be so naïve in the recent past.
This seems to be America’s Achilles Heel. Time and time again they make choices they cannot manage and then struggle to withdraw from what turns out to be against their interests. It’s really delusional and creates tragedy for everyone associated. But there’s also the paranoia about Russian that seems to be built into their DNA. Everything’s Russia, Russia, Russia. It was Russia with its lackey Trump that interfered with the 2016 election. It was absurd, but it worked because of the ever present paranoia. I haven’t seen enough evidence to prove that Putin wanted to occupy Ukraine but that’s the narrative. It seems entirely logical that Putin would not agree to having NATO next door. But America keeps playing that game. America thought they could break Russia economically. They couldn’t. They believe Ukraine can win. They can’t, And so they create a situation where their two biggest adversaries begin to form a coalition It doesn’t have to be this way. But what do you say about someone who keeps repeating the same thing with the same negative results?

Martin M
Martin M
16 days ago
Reply to  Brett H

The US thinking that Russia is its enemy seems quite perspicacious, given that Russia is its enemy.

Brett H
Brett H
16 days ago
Reply to  Martin M

Why?

Martin M
Martin M
16 days ago
Reply to  Brett H

Because it stands for the exact opposite of everything the US stands for.

Brett H
Brett H
16 days ago
Reply to  Martin M

Is that a good enough reason? It was there long before America became a nation. Do you feel threatened?

Martin M
Martin M
16 days ago
Reply to  Brett H

Of course. Russia has nukes.

Brett H
Brett H
16 days ago
Reply to  Martin M

That’s how they see NATO.

Martin M
Martin M
15 days ago
Reply to  Brett H

So they should. If I were running things, they probably would have seen those nukes up close long before now.

Allison Barrows
Allison Barrows
16 days ago
Reply to  Martin M

Obama signed a nuclear weapons deal with Iran in 2015 and gave them sh*t loads of cash, and they hate our guts.
The US staged a coup in Ukraine in 2014 and are financing the war currently being lost by their puppet, as planned.
After America nuked Japan, they rebuilt with our help and became great friends and trading partners. The animus against Russia is a political tool: gotta hate someone.

Martin M
Martin M
15 days ago

I take a different message from what you just said. My interpretation is “The US should have nuked Russia in ’46”.

Andrew Fisher
Andrew Fisher
12 days ago

Childish analysis. The US controls everything and everywhere in the world! The US didn’t “stage a coup” in 2014 in Ukraine. What happened was that were a lot of protests and many of the protesters were shot by government snipers.

The pro Russian president then fled the country. Did the US have a preference as to who would govern Ukraine? – sure it does. And so does Russia.

Peter B
Peter B
15 days ago
Reply to  Brett H

Because Russia has openly stated that the USA and NATO *are its enemy* !!!
It doesn’t matter whether you or I believe Russia is our enemy while they believe we are theirs.
Surprised this is even a question.
Do you not listen to what Putin and his acolytes actually say ? Or don’t you believe it ?

Brett H
Brett H
15 days ago
Reply to  Peter B

What do they say?

Peter B
Peter B
15 days ago
Reply to  Brett H

Do some homework ! I can’t do this all for you.
They repeatedly claim that the USA and NATO are their enemies.

Brett H
Brett H
14 days ago
Reply to  Peter B

It’s not a matter of laziness. I’m just asking you to be a bit more precise about what you’re suggesting. Are they, for instance , using the word “enemy”? Was it Putin you’re quoting? Was it their media? Which of his acolytes?

Ian Johnston
Ian Johnston
13 days ago
Reply to  Brett H

No.

No, they’re not.

This clown is full of it.

Ian Johnston
Ian Johnston
13 days ago
Reply to  Peter B

I would call this a lie, but I will limit myself instead to arrant buIIsh!t instead.

Ian Johnston
Ian Johnston
13 days ago
Reply to  Peter B

I do. I have listened to most of VVP’s foreign policy speeches since his Munich speech of 2007. Where has he ever said that America is his enemy ? Where has Lavrov ever said America is his enemy ?

All their major speeches can be found on Michael Rossi’s yt channel.

Start there and begin to educate yourself.

D Walsh
D Walsh
16 days ago
Reply to  Martin M

If you remove the neocons from the equation, then there is no need for the Russians to be an enemy of the US or Europe

Martin M
Martin M
15 days ago
Reply to  D Walsh

It wouldn’t matter if the Dalai Lama was the US President. Russia would still be the enemy of the US and the West. It always will be.

Andrew Fisher
Andrew Fisher
12 days ago
Reply to  D Walsh

Who are these “neocons” for goodness sake?! It was Rumsfeld, d**k Cheney er al. The term has noe just become a ridiculous vague catch all term of abuse, like so many deployed on political fora. Joe Biden’s presidency was remarkably cautious in providing weapons and funding for Ukraine’s defense but going out of its way not to get embroiled with a shooting war with Russia. It seems to me obvious that the US would much rather not be involved in this conflict in Eastern Europe, but unfortunately it seems that most of the critics of the US simply want to hand Russia whatever it demands on a plate. It’s a bit difficult to square the Right wing view of the West as pusillanimous, pacifist, pro trans weaklings, and as aggressive warmongers at the same time.

Having recognised Ukraine’s independence and borders in 1991, Russia invaded its neighbour both in 2014 and 2022. Quite how this can be entirely laid at the door of the US is beyond me, for all the many foreign policy faults of that country.

Jim Denham
Jim Denham
16 days ago
Reply to  Brett H

Don’t the people of Ukraine get to have any say in this? I’m not opposed to a negotiated peace, but only one that’s acceptable to the people of Ukraine. According to this author, they have no agency and don’t seem to deserve any agency.

Michael McElwee
Michael McElwee
16 days ago
Reply to  Jim Denham

Exactly. The Bush doctrine in effect allocates to the US the power to tell other nations how to govern themselves. That is, the US allocated that power to itself. Isn’t the germ of this totalitarian? The Russians don’t want democracy. So the US gets to force it down their throats?

Punksta .
Punksta .
16 days ago
Reply to  Brett H

The ‘paranoia’ about Russia is based on its 400-year history of imperialism. How do you think it got so big?
And seems you missed Putin’s endless outpourings on the need to abolish the whole concept of a Ukrainian nation. Becaue Ukrainians are just 2nd-class, untermenchen Rusisians, he says, who need to be brought under Moscow’s rule.
But Yes, Putin didn’t want Ukraine (a) made uninvadeable via Nato membership, for then it could not be bullied, and (b) creating a democracy so close to home, giving the Russian public similar dangerous ideas.
All that is missing from grinding the Russian invasion down, is missiles to hit their military bases.

UnHerd Reader
UnHerd Reader
16 days ago
Reply to  Punksta .

Russia was imperialistic when Belgium, Netherlands, Spain, Britain, Japan, Turkey, France, Germany, the USA and more were imperialistic. The post ww2 Soviet empire was a bad thing. Encroaching on Russia by what is effectively Imperial NATO was slso not really a good thing. Please do note that pre Ukraine invasion Russia had some of the strongest finances in the world. They are still strong economically. Unlike nearly all the west, Russia’s internal resources are vast. Perhaps running an blatant coup in Ukraine wasn’t super bright. It was obviously lucrative for the Western leadership class, but not so bright in terms of strategic well being.

Martin M
Martin M
15 days ago
Reply to  UnHerd Reader

Russia might be “strong economically”, but pretty much all of that money goes into Putin’s pocket, and the pockets of 40 or so of his close friends.

Samir Iker
Samir Iker
15 days ago
Reply to  Punksta .

In the last 400 years, Russia saw two bloody invasions in 1812 and 1941 that killed tens of millions and almost destroyed their country, and another, significant military operation where their “allies” during the Napoleon wars, Britain, joined hands with France to meddle in Crimea.

More recently, the same Russians peacefully withdrew from East Europe and allowed Ukraine to separate.

Jonathan A Gallant
Jonathan A Gallant
15 days ago
Reply to  Samir Iker

Gorbachev’s permitting Ukraine to separate, a highly unusual lapse for Russia, is precisely what Russia is now trying to reverse. Prior to Gorby, the USSR carried out unprovoked invasions of 8 different countries (Estonia, Lithuania, Latvia, Poland, Finland, Hungary, Czechoslovakia, Afghanistan) between 1939 and 1979).

Peter B
Peter B
15 days ago
Reply to  Samir Iker

Tiresome nonsense about the Crimean War.
Read some history !!! Educate yourself. You might learn something. Like how we were fighting in alliance with Turkey to prevent Russia overrunning the Turkish empire. And had no plan to occupy Crimea. Only to smash up Sebastopol (which we successfully did).

Martin M
Martin M
15 days ago
Reply to  Punksta .

….and missiles to hit its oil facilities.

Malcolm Robbins
Malcolm Robbins
14 days ago
Reply to  Martin M

Martin M what utter crap you talk. Talk about a narrow ideological belief system based on mistrust and hate. Try actually thinking through the ethics and reality of your position. Extreme and catastrophising.

Richard Calhoun
Richard Calhoun
16 days ago

Putin will be gone .. there will be another Russia with Trump in the White House

Martin M
Martin M
15 days ago

All indications are that Putin will outlive Trump. He is younger, fitter, and not at all obese.

Jürg Gassmann
Jürg Gassmann
16 days ago

The US desperately needs a “Russia Reset”, but this article persists in the delusion that the US has any leverage or even anything to credibly offer.
It is quite plain to see that Ukraine is losing catastrophically. Any reset with Russia has to start with listening to Russia’s basic statements: Crimea and the four oblasts are now Russia; Ukraine will never be in NATO; social nationalist parties (as they term themselves) and paramilitaries will no longer be tolerated in Ukraine; and there will be a new security architecture in Europe.
To offer “sanction relief” is equally delusional. The US have never been able to implement sanction relief to any substantial degree. Tentative relaxations are immediately undermined by other parts of the administration or reversed after the next election. No US firm – let alone non-US firms wanting to be in the US market – will trust any promised sanction relief. The US is simply not a credible treaty party; the US will have to wean itself off its long-arm jurisdiction habit and will have to laboriously re-earn the trust of the international community.
Russia has set itself up to not need anything the US – or Europe – would want to offer. Russia may be open for a “US/Europe Reset”, but does not need one.

Johannes van Vliet
Johannes van Vliet
16 days ago
Reply to  Jürg Gassmann

It is not Russia’s statements but more precisely Putin’s desires causing this war. Being delusional to believe that Ukrainians are a kind of hilly billy Russians. A bit similar to past thinking that the Dutch are a kind of Germans. If Ukraine will lose remains to be seen. If we “reset” the relation with Russia now possibly the answer will be “yes”.

P Branagan
P Branagan
16 days ago
Reply to  Jürg Gassmann

Excellent post Jürg.

Martin M
Martin M
15 days ago
Reply to  Jürg Gassmann

I think the US needs to give Ukraine long range missiles which would enable it to destroy ALL Russia’s oil production facilities. Let’s see how its economy goes when it can’t export hydrocarbons.

Ian Johnston
Ian Johnston
13 days ago
Reply to  Jürg Gassmann

Spot on, Jurg.

The writer is deluded from start to finish. One of the worst Unherd articles on geopolitics I’ve read. I honestly thought I was reading Foreign Policy, so bad was it.

UnHerd Reader
UnHerd Reader
16 days ago

The reset is naive. Skipping over the President who actually…prevented wars…is a bit baive as well.

Johannes van Vliet
Johannes van Vliet
16 days ago

Resetting with Russia,as long as it is Putin ruled, sounds a bit like selling out Ukraine to a dictatorship. Hopefully it can wait a bit…

Alex Lekas
Alex Lekas
16 days ago

In function, Ukraine already is a dictatorship. Elections canceled. Opposition parties and media outlawed. Priests put in jail.

Martin M
Martin M
15 days ago
Reply to  Alex Lekas

It is at war! I’m sure the “Priests” are Russian Orthodox ones, who are Russian stooges!

Alex Lekas
Alex Lekas
16 days ago

Given the author’s scenario, selecting a president from the administration that incited this war is not a good idea, but who knows. The American public is not noted for its collective wisdom, least of all among the natives like me. Could people elect Kamala? Of course. People can delude themselves into doing a lot of self-defeating things.
The US was instrumental in the 2014 coup in Ukraine but no one wants to talk about it. We have the biolabs that long-time govt tool Victoria Nuland inadvertently confirmed during a Senate hearing and not a word was uttered about them after that. We have steadily pushed to surround Russia with NATO, and then get the vapors when Moscow notices.
There will be no reset with a Harris regime; her handlers don’t want one just as they don’t want one with the shell of a man called Biden. For Harris to attempt to engineer such an about-face would have no credibility, in part because she and those around her have no credibility on this front. DC remains filled with frustrated Cold Warriors who want their old world back.

Punksta .
Punksta .
16 days ago
Reply to  Alex Lekas

Imperial Russia invaded now, to prevent Ukraine becoming uninvadeable later (via Nato membership). So that’s ‘inciting’ this war was it? If Ukraine would just accept Russian subjugation, and not try to democratise, combat corruption and do other unRussian things, and generally run itself as it pleased, Russia would not have ‘needed’ to invade to preserve its sphere of imperlialism (‘influence’).

Michael Cazaly
Michael Cazaly
16 days ago
Reply to  Punksta .

Russia could never invade and hold all of Ukraine.
Ukraine could have been another, larger, and more prosperous Austria. It’s corrupt rulers chose otherwise…

Martin M
Martin M
15 days ago
Reply to  Michael Cazaly

Austria doesn’t share a border with Russia.

Punksta .
Punksta .
15 days ago
Reply to  Michael Cazaly

Ukraine’s corrupt leaders chose the equally corrupt Russia to invade it?? Gibberish.
Ukraine offended Moscow by (a) developing democracy so close to Russia’s borders, thereby risking a contagion of it infecting Russia, and (b) seeking to be finally free of subjugation by Russia by gaining protection from Nato.

Martin M
Martin M
15 days ago
Reply to  Alex Lekas

DC remains filled with frustrated Cold Warriors who want their old world back“. Good. I’m not in DC (I am not even American), but I am one of them. Russia needs to be chained by its neck to a wall, and the chain in question needs to be very short.

Brett H
Brett H
15 days ago
Reply to  Martin M

Even if you’re right about how to manage Russia I don’t see how it’s possible. You’ll never destroy it, you’d have to occupy it.

Martin M
Martin M
15 days ago
Reply to  Brett H

I don’t think that is right, and in any event, actually occupying Russia would be impossible. I would maintain an overt policy of keeping Russia down by economic means (trade be kept at a minimum, embargos on certain sorts of goods going there), while ensuring that the West’s military is strong enough to deal with it if it gets out of hand.

Brett H
Brett H
15 days ago
Reply to  Martin M

You’d have to control China as well. No trading between them, or anyone else.

Martin M
Martin M
14 days ago
Reply to  Brett H

I am perfectly happy to trade with China, and if Russia wants to, I guess it can’t be stopped. However, the West’s sanctions must be rigidly enforced. For example, I don’t want to see Russia get any parts for the Western airliners they stole. I want to see them falling out of the sky.

Andrew F
Andrew F
16 days ago

This writer is naive beyond belief.
West made a mistake by helping to develop China, so now we should provide technology to develop another dictatorships, Russia.
Prof Mrirschaimer was a Russian stooge for years.
Claiming that Nixon pivot to China was beneficial to the West is mad.
It was blunder consequences of which we suffer today.
Current situation is similar to 1938/39 in Europe.
West faced two dictatorships in Germany and Soviet Russia.
Nothing offered by the West to Stalin could beat the Germany offer of Ribentrop-Molotov pact and joined attack on Poland (and later on Baltic States and Finland by Russia).
No magical thinking and clever gambit can change the basic fact that West faces two dictatorships in Russia and China which interests will be always more aligned.
Idea that any deal over Ukraine with Russia will endure is not supported by history.
Just remember Budapest memorandum.
Putin would just rearm and start again.
That what happened after Munich agreement and partition of Czechoslovakia.
The sensible approach was taken by Reagan.
No appeasement of Russia.
Rearm and bring Russia to its knees.
It worked then and it would work now.

Dave Canuck
Dave Canuck
16 days ago
Reply to  Andrew F

Good points, you forgot their invasion of Afghanistan, their takeover of Eastern Europe and their attemt to take over Greece and Iran after WWII, Stalin’s support of North Korea’s invasion during the Korean War and his support of Mao which enabled the communist takeover of China, Russian support of North Vietnam enabling the communist takeover of ex Indochina, their support of Castro and revolutionary movements in Central America as well as in Africa, leftist guerrilla movements in Malaysia, Indonesia. I probably missed some.

Michael Cazaly
Michael Cazaly
16 days ago
Reply to  Dave Canuck

The Soviet Union did not support the Communists in either Greece or Italy…rather in line with Churchill’s “naughty document”…

Dave Canuck
Dave Canuck
16 days ago
Reply to  Michael Cazaly

It was a naughty document, but Churchill had no choice, Stalin was the dominant power on the eastern front, nothing could stop them from sweeping through eastern Europe, Roosevelt had no interest in opposing Stalin either. Stalin could not have done it without massive American arms shipments and supplies through lend lease. As for the Greek communists they were supported indirectly via Tito in Yugoslavia. Luckily for Greece, the UK and US under Truman supported the Greek government and prevented the communist takeover in the civil war

Michael Cazaly
Michael Cazaly
16 days ago
Reply to  Dave Canuck

Of course Churchill had no choice but the point is that Stalin stuck to the agreement.
Tito wasn’t controlled by Stalin.

And the USA supported the Greek government because the UK couldn’t do it any longer.

When Austria became…and remains…neutral, the Soviet Union left it alone, as has Russia much to Austria’s benefit. Ukraine could have had the same, but the USA wouldn’t allow it.

Martin M
Martin M
15 days ago
Reply to  Michael Cazaly

….and Ukraine didn’t want it. They decided their destiny was to be part of the West.

Punksta .
Punksta .
15 days ago
Reply to  Michael Cazaly

So the USA had to ‘allow’ Ukraine to seek Nato protection? Nonsensical.

P Branagan
P Branagan
16 days ago
Reply to  Andrew F

…and there should definitely be no appeasement with the depraved debauched hypocrisy of the West.

Dave Canuck
Dave Canuck
16 days ago
Reply to  P Branagan

The west is the best

Brett H
Brett H
15 days ago
Reply to  Dave Canuck

I agree. But not right all of the time.

Punksta .
Punksta .
15 days ago
Reply to  P Branagan

The West is invading somewhere? Where?

Brett H
Brett H
16 days ago
Reply to  Andrew F

I don’t understand this. Reagan brought Russia to its knees. “It worked then …” But they’re back. If they were truly brought to their knees why are the a threat now?

Martin M
Martin M
15 days ago
Reply to  Brett H

Because the West took its boot off Russia’s throat. I don’t intend to be critical about this. I too was fooled into thinking that Russia would be different after the Wall came down. It was for a while, but has now reverted to type.

Martin M
Martin M
15 days ago
Reply to  Andrew F

Brilliantly put! What is more, even if Putin died tomorrow, his successor (whoever that may be) would broadly hold to Putin’s world view.

UnHerd Reader
UnHerd Reader
16 days ago

Read until Mearsheimer was mentioned.I knew then that the rest would be the usual myopic stance of historical inaccuracies and political naivety.Drivel.

Punksta .
Punksta .
16 days ago

Agreeing to concede lost territory, is one thing.
Agreeing to remain defenceless against further Russian imperialism, quite another. Especially given Putin’s oft-stated intention to eviserate the whole concept of a Ukrainian nation.
This invasion shows Nato membership (or similar) is absolutely necessary.

Michael Cazaly
Michael Cazaly
16 days ago
Reply to  Punksta .

Do you seriously believe any US President would risk New York for…the Ukraine?

de Gaulle most certainly didn’t…and he was definitely a man to understand and face realities…even at the risk of his own life…

Punksta .
Punksta .
15 days ago
Reply to  Michael Cazaly

Do you seriously believe Putin would risk Moscow for imperial greed over Ukraine ?

P Branagan
P Branagan
16 days ago

Once I read this: ‘Putin’s ambition of conquering the whole of Ukraine would have been thwarted’ I lost interest. The author is obviously totally ignorant of the fundamental causes of this proxy war.

Maybe he’s a paid hack of one of those ghastly hatemongering 3 letter agencies!

Cho Jinn
Cho Jinn
16 days ago

I can see the look on Vlad’s face now, sitting across from Kamala and she spouts a fresh greens word salad mix. Maybe they’ll surrender just to get out of the room.

Martin M
Martin M
12 days ago
Reply to  Cho Jinn

I think it is a pity Reagan isn’t still in the White House. I doubt he’s put up with scum like Putin.

Michael Clarke
Michael Clarke
15 days ago

The last paragraph is why a reset will be difficult. The US and Europe, through their relentless rhetoric about Russia, which their governments’ control of the MSM makes possible, makes it difficult to walk back the NATO position. Plus, I suspect NATO is beginning to believe its own propaganda.

Punksta .
Punksta .
15 days ago
Reply to  Michael Clarke

Yes, no sane person is willing to justify Russian barbarity and imperialism. So unfair!

Matthew Symington
Matthew Symington
12 days ago

Russia and China are united by a shared interest in disrupting and harming Western and Western-allied states. They have their own reasons for this and there’s not much Western governments can do to dissuade them. The idea that appeasing one of the parties won’t just encourage further aggression by both, as this article suggests, is nonsense.

Will K
Will K
11 days ago

Mr Biden has alienated Russia so intensely, that it surely will be a couple of generations before Russia will show any goodwill at all towards the US.