Will she condemn the German Left to oblivion? Müller-Stauffenberg/ullstein bild/Getty Images

“The future of The Left is a future without Sahra Wagenknecht.” Despite the rapid rise of the Right-wing party AfD in Germany, which secured 18% of the vote in this weekend’s Hessian election, the Leftist party Die Linke wants nothing to do with one of Germany’s most popular politicians. While roughly 20% of Germans would consider supporting a party with Wagenknecht in charge, the leaders of her current party, Die Linke, have demanded that she resign her seat in the Bundestag, the German parliament.
Admittedly, Wagenknecht hasn’t gone out of her way to make friends. In her 2021 book Die Selbstgerechten (The Self-Righteous), she condemned the rise of a so-called “lifestyle Left” that was made up of “the academic middle class, software programmers, and marketing experts” whose obsessions with political correctness, climate change, and unregulated immigration threatened to alienate Die Linke’s supporters in the working class and among the unemployed. The attack was taken badly by her comrades, who saw the book as a declaration of “literal war against her own party” and “the marginalised”.
But perhaps Wagenknecht doesn’t need their support. For months now, rumours have been circulating in the German press that she is planning to found her own party before the end of the year. The tabloid Bild claims to have confirmed that the launch of the new party is imminent, while one Wagenknecht ally, the political scientist Ulrike Guérot, told the news magazine Cicero in August that she had been offered to run on the new party’s ticket for next year’s elections to the EU parliament. If Wagenknecht goes ahead with her plan, the German political landscape might realign in unprecedented ways, both condemning Die Linke to oblivion and possibly slowing the rapid rise of the AfD.
Born in 1969 to a German mother and an Iranian immigrant father in the former GDR, 54-year-old Wagenknecht was associated with the Stalinist party faction “Kommunistische Plattform” until 2010 when she left the group. Since then, she has noticeably moderated her image, dressing in conservative pantsuits, wearing her hair tightly pinned up — and approvingly quoting Roger Scruton’s “philosophy of belonging”, which she pits against the “individualism and cosmopolitanism” of the “lifestyle Left”.
Still, she continues to appeal to popular anti-capitalist sentiments. Her worldview, which she first set out in her 2011 book Freiheit statt Kapitalismus (Freedom over Capitalism), sees the sovereign nation-state as the essential bulwark against what she calls a “rule-less, globalised capitalism”. National welfare systems exist, she writes in Die Selbstgerechten, “to protect domestic workers and domestic consumers” (the italics are hers). German Leftists, still deeply scarred by the country’s national socialist past, see such protectionist appeals to national interests as little more than far-Right dog whistles.
Yet to many, she is a bold tribune of the people. In her YouTube show, she presents herself, somewhat awkwardly, as a news anchor commenting on the latest news in simple German. She regularly advocates views that are commonly associated with the German Right, whether it be attacks on Covid vaccine mandates or the Biden administration, which she accuses of having sabotaged the Nord Stream pipelines last year. A fierce critic of Germany’s membership of Nato, which she blames for having provoked Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, she demanded that the German federal government publicly reveal everything it knows about who blew up Nord Stream. But the Scholz administration responded enigmatically that “in the interest of the welfare of the state” the findings needed to be kept secret.
Predictably enough, Wagenknecht has been condemned as “Vladimir Putin’s voice in Germany”, especially after she helped initiate the Manifest für Frieden (Manifesto for Peace) petition in February that demanded an end to German weapons deliveries to Ukraine and a diplomatic settlement of the war. This ultimately triggered a falling out with her party: after she refused to condemn the support of the manifesto by Right-wing activists, Die Linke leadership denied its endorsement of the peace initiative.
Yet her actions drew praise from surprising corners. Björn Höcke, an influential voice of the AfD and an advocate for Russo-German rapprochement, suggested that Wagenknecht should join his party. His proposal, however, was clearly tongue-in-cheek — the AfD leadership is aware of the dangers that a Wagenknecht party would pose to its unprecedented rise in national polls. While the AfD would be the second strongest party in the Bundestag if elections were held today, a new Wagenknecht party might slice off as much as a third of its support. “We’ll need to regard a Wagenknecht party not as an ally but as a competitor,” Höcke said recently, adding that a Wagenknecht party would more likely provide “opposition within the ruling cartel than opposition to the cartel”.
Neither side is keen on an alliance. Wagenknecht has regularly condemned the AfD as beyond the pale of acceptability and excluded any collaboration with it, despite overlapping on crucial issues such as immigration, Nato membership, and the reopening of the Nord Stream pipelines. “To me, any cooperation with the AfD is absolutely unacceptable”, said Amira Mohamed Ali, co-chair of Die Linke faction in the Bundestag and one of Wagenknecht’s closest allies who would most likely follow her into a new party. “The AfD is a party which in parts holds extreme Right-wing views… Many politicians in the AfD do not clearly distance themselves from the National Socialist era and its rhetoric.”
Such a view is common in German political discourse. The oppositional Christian Democrats (CDU), who were in power for most of the history of the post-war Federal Republic, most recently under the 16-year chancellorship of Angela Merkel, have self-imposed a so-called “Brandmauer” (firewall) that mandates a total prohibition on any collaboration with the AfD. The CDU party chair Friedrich Merz recently had to reaffirm his commitment to the firewall after causing an uproar when he told the public broadcaster ZDF that the party would have to be “pragmatic” at the local level if CDU council members were confronted with resolutions put forth by AfD politicians. His point was that if AfD members of a small-town council suggested repaving a road, the CDU faction shouldn’t reflexively oppose the measure.
Elsewhere, this firewall rhetoric has boxed the CDU into a corner. Recently, the party proposed a bill in the state parliament of Thuringia to cut taxes. But after the AfD faction voted in support of the bill, embarrassed handwringing ensued. Did the CDU inadvertently violate its own firewall by taking a position with which the AfD agrees? Should it withdraw proposals if it becomes clear that the AfD might endorse them? Some prominent CDU members indeed seem to believe so.
In this, the CDU has found an unlikely sympathiser in Amira Mohamed Ali. “What should they have done?” she told German media. “Refuse to propose a motion or withdraw it after the wrong ones voted for it? I find that rather absurd.”
Might this present an opportunity for a future party led by Wagenknecht? While the AfD and a potential Wagenknecht party would likely denounce each other in public and promise no formal collaboration, on key issues of the day — such as the Ukraine war or energy policy — they could vote in line. And even though the AfD might earn smaller vote shares with Wagenknecht as a competitor, the two parties together may still earn a larger combined vote share than the AfD does by itself. This would allow them to form subtle coalitions on specific issues.
The status quo, by contrast, limits Wagenknecht’s reach because in national polls Die Linke is stagnating around the 5% mark that parties need to cross in order to gain seats in the Bundestag. In Sunday’s elections for the state parliaments of Hesse and Bavaria, the party incurred heavy losses and failed to win seats in either parliament — in Hesse, Die Linke earned only half as many votes as in the last elections five years ago. Prominent Linke politicians blame it all on Wagenknecht. “It is the stated goal of Wagenknecht and her associates to destroy Die Linke,” tweeted the Bundestag member Caren Lay.
But Wagenknecht could still lose her nerve. After all, this would not be her first time trying to launch a novel political organisation. In 2018, she helped to form an extra-parliamentary movement named Aufstehen (“Rise Up”), which she modelled after the British Momentum campaign of Jeremy Corbyn supporters, to provide grassroots support for her Left-wing goals. Yet the project quickly fizzled out after Wagenknecht complained that she felt “burned out” and withdrew from leadership.
If she proceeds, Wagenknecht will have the crucial support of Klaus Ernst. The former union executive helped to lead a sizable chunk of members out of the Social Democratic Party in 2005 to protest the party’s cuts to social welfare during the chancellorship of Gerhard Schröder. He then helped to form the Left-wing social-democratic party WASG, which in 2007 merged with the Party of Democratic Socialism to become today’s Linke. Ernst, who is discontented with Die Linke’s support for “genderism” and apocalyptic climate activism, recently told Cicero that if Wagenknecht were to launch such a party, “it would really be a realistic option for me to participate”.
The combined vote share of Germany’s Nato-supporting mainstream parties is ever-shrinking as more and more Germans, especially in the East, feel alienated from Berlin and seek to punish their leaders by voting for disruptive populist forces. So far, the AfD has fought a lonely fight in total rejection of the status quo. If Wagenknecht starts to address many of the AfD’s complaints against Germany’s energy or foreign policy as well, the Right-wing populists may not be lonely for long.
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SubscribeI’m hearing more stories from friends and relatives about side effects from the mRNA vaccine booster shot. Some people, including me, are reacting very strongly to it and sometimes new or existing health conditions flare up. This phenomenon is little reported in the media. My last remaining aunt, who is in her eighties, is now reluctant to receive a second booster because of her reaction to the first one, even though she is at high risk from covid. The adenovirus-based vaccines are an important alternative to the mRNA shots.
I’m not antivax and I’m not a conspiracy theorist, but collective experience now suggests there are aspects to the mRNA vaccines not being fully and fairly reported. Many thanks to experts such as Drs. Stabell-Benn and Bhattacharya for continuing to push for open discussion around covid disease and vaccination.
Of course, this will surely have nothing to do with the fact that Ursula von der Leyen is married to the Medical Director of the US biotech company Orgenesis, which has close links to Pfizer.
May have been ??? wit was a b….y blunder and I bet you that Valneva who is taking a beating on the stock market will be on the rebound the minute brokers hear of this story.
since I first wrote this post, the New York Times covid thread sent me to this ……which pretty much matches what this danish Professor says. Plus….I googled her….not one nasty word about who she is what she does. Interesting figure about Japan and that works for the rest of the world…..20 % infect about 85 %. Stay away from crowd, especially inside, enjoy the outdoor/ side……simply what the swedes have said all along without any lockdown.
Japan, like many other countries including China, Korea, India, and the Russian Federation, have mandatory childhood BCG vaccines against tuberculosis. These countries have so far a relatively low per capita death rate from COVID-19 compared to countries that have no mandatory BCG vaccines (USA, Spain, France, Italy, The Netherlands). What further distinguishes Japan is that the BCG vaccine strain used in Japan, Brazil, and Russia is one of the original strains, while further modified BCG strains are used for vaccination in European countries. This association between BCG vaccination and apparent low COVID-19 incidence in Japan has spurred the idea that these two things may be linked (for more discussions on this topic, visit https://www.jsatonotes.com/2020/03/if-i-were-north-americaneuropeanaustral.html and https://news.yahoo.co.jp/byline/kimuramasato/20200405-00171556/).
How would BCG, an attenuated bacterial vaccine completely unrelated to COVID-19, provide protection? Michai Netea and colleagues hypothesized that the vaccine may boost “trained immunity” (Netea et al, 2016)—in other words, certain immune stimuli may induce a prolonged state of resistance against pathogens in general, by elevating the expression levels of resistance factors. Studies have shown that receipt of BCG vaccine was associated with a reduction in all-cause mortality within the first 1–60 months: The average relative risks were 0.70 (95% confidence interval 0.49–1.01) from five clinical trials (Higgins et al, 2016). Furthermore, Netea and colleagues showed that BCG vaccination reduced the levels of viremia caused by the yellow fever virus live attenuated vaccine (Arts et al, 2018), and post-BCG increase of IL-1β production strongly correlated with lower viremia after yellow fever virus administration. A placebo-controlled randomized clinical trial of 1,000 healthcare workers in The Netherlands has started, and a similar trial is planned to begin at the Max Planck Institute (de Vrieze, 2020). The outcomes of these trials will help us to understand whether and how BCG confers resistance to other pathogens including SARS-CoV-2.
I had been wondering if anyone had done a study on those who had a BCG inoculation versus those who had not.
Another useful – and well known – weapon in the armoury against panicdemics perhaps?
This highlights the problems of mixing political decision making with the supposedly disinterested process of scientific evaluation of the effectiveness of different vaccines and why commercial interests can lead to attempts to smear rival views. Did Ursula VDL support Pfizer over Astra for political or commercial reasons or from a genuine belief that she was making the right disinterested call? Who knows. Highlighting the family connection while being suspicious could, of course, be regarded as the sort of smear that is used by the advocated of Astra. The difficulty of analysing scientific trials and the pressures of politics and commerce combine to result in understandable paranoia among the public.
ah Pfizer… that company who just reported $7BN(!) in PROFITS(!) recently… well well…
I sometimes wonder how much our “leaders” grin and twist their lips slyly when alone with themselves after they contemplate what they do in order to increase their enormous wealth at the expense of the common person. It takes a unique individual to gain satisfaction from that and yet sleep at night, completely debased and soulless.
My son died two days after receiving his first Pfizer vaccine. He was 46 years old and Type 1 diabetic since he was 22 months old. He had chest pains that evening and went to the ER and went home and died in his sleep on the third night. Autopsy concluded that he died from arteriosclerosis. He was in good health otherwise. I believe the vaccine caused it. I had received both vaccines (Pfizer) before he received his and am having my first episode of shingles a year later. I believe more studies need to be done. The hype to vaccinate the world so quickly may have done more damage than good.
Very sorry to hear that Carol. I developed a clot in my knee. Please see my other post here.
Now that the vax’s are obsolete what’s the point of getting either one? I wasn’t ANTI-VAX…. before NOW!
When I received my first Pfizer shot, I developed a swelling in my right knee within 24 hours. I checked into emergency a couple of days later and a young doctor after checking out the condition insisted that this is not a blood clot but an infection or an injury inside the knee, even though he could not produce evidence for either. The timing he said was purely coincidental. I insisted on a blood test, which he authorized. A D-Dimer test was performed on the blood sample and a week later the result came back. Indeed it was a blood clot. After two weeks, the clot subsided. I feel pretty lucky that this did not develop in a critical place. I had no symptoms in my next Pfizer and Moderna shots.
I find it unnerving that physicians have become politicized and so readily wish to push a certain narrative, because they believe it to be socially beneficial. That is not the job of the emergency room doctor to decide on social benefits. It is unethical for a physician to put the unproven or even proven good of the “community” over the imminent safety of the individual. If I had known about this Danish study at that time, I would have taken the AZ or J&J vaccine.
Merkel is the one who shot Astrazenecca like a clay pigeon, joined. 45 minutes later out of Montauban by Macron himself who had not a single clue.
The Germans did it……so we have to join. Look at the mess we’re in after this profound uttering !!!
Merkel hiding in her cave now…..not so smug
q’d here what comes out à study regarding Japan and why they didn’t suffer the same ordeal Europe did. Talk about population density which what I get when mentioning Sweden. Incidentally, it is Norbotten, the most north province not exactly known for its population density, that there was the most cases at the peak of the pandemic.
Japan, like many other countries including China, Korea, India, and the Russian Federation, have mandatory childhood BCG vaccines against tuberculosis. These countries have so far a relatively low per capita death rate from COVID-19 compared to countries that have no mandatory BCG vaccines (USA, Spain, France, Italy, The Netherlands). What further distinguishes Japan is that the BCG vaccine strain used in Japan, Brazil, and Russia is one of the original strains, while further modified BCG strains are used for vaccination in European countries. This association between BCG vaccination and apparent low COVID-19 incidence in Japan has spurred the idea that these two things may be linked (for more discussions on this topic, visit https://www.jsatonotes.com/2020/03/if-i-were-north-americaneuropeanaustral.html and https://news.yahoo.co.jp/byline/kimuramasato/20200405-00171556/).
How would BCG, an attenuated bacterial vaccine completely unrelated to COVID-19, provide protection? Michai Netea and colleagues hypothesized that the vaccine may boost “trained immunity” (Netea et al, 2016)—in other words, certain immune stimuli may induce a prolonged state of resistance against pathogens in general, by elevating the expression levels of resistance factors. Studies have shown that receipt of BCG vaccine was associated with a reduction in all-cause mortality within the first 1–60 months: The average relative risks were 0.70 (95% confidence interval 0.49–1.01) from five clinical trials (Higgins et al, 2016). Furthermore, Netea and colleagues showed that BCG vaccination reduced the levels of viremia caused by the yellow fever virus live attenuated vaccine (Arts et al, 2018), and post-BCG increase of IL-1β production strongly correlated with lower viremia after yellow fever virus administration. A placebo-controlled randomized clinical trial of 1,000 healthcare workers in The Netherlands has started, and a similar trial is planned to begin at the Max Planck Institute (de Vrieze, 2020). The outcomes of these trials will help us to understand whether and how BCG confers resistance to other pathogens including SARS-CoV-2.
I am 58 years old, and I have 4 adult children, 2 of them and myself have been vaccinated with the MRNA Vaccines. I have received 3 doses of the Pfizer Vaccine, my Son (age 25) has received 2 doses of the Pfizer Vaccine and my Daughter (age 38) has received 2 doses of the Moderna Vaccine. ALL 3 of us have become very ill since being vaccinated, with similar symptoms, including muscle aches and stiffness in the joints, heart palpitations, unable to stand, walk or carry out any form of simple activity for long without being overcome with the distressing feeling that we can’t catch our breath, a racing heart beat and the sensation that we’re going to pass out! My Son HAS actually passed out on about three occasions! It has caused both my Type II Diabetes and my MS symptoms to flare up and become worse, so I am now also suffering from permanent, and sometimes debilitating dizziness, and I have recently also been diagnosed with Hypothyroidism as well! In contrast, my other two Daughters, aged 37 and 35, who decided NOT to be vaccinated with ANY of the Covid-19 vaccines available here in the UK, are both feeling fine health wise, so go figure! I have absolutely NO DOUBTS at all that it is the MRNA Vaccines that have impacted our health, but with a NHS that REFUSES to even ‘discuss’ the possibility that the MRNA Vaccines could physically ‘DAMAGE’ recipients health, we have no possible way to actually ‘prove’ that our health has been damaged by the MRNA Vaccine! I have now lost ALL TRUST in both the NHS and big Pharma, as my 2 vaccinated adult children have now very likely had their health PERMANENTLY DAMAGED, ruining the rest of their lives, and the way I myself am now feeling, I wouldn’t be at all surprised if I actually DIE before I turn 60 years old! I am also NOT an anti-vaxxer, or a conspiracy theorist, before this happened to me and my adult children, I had ALWAYS had ALL the recommended vaccinations, for Mumps, Measles etc, and I had always done the same with my children as well when they were growing up! R.W
Yes I tried to tell my daughters not to take this vaccine as I did quite a bit of research. Iam 72 and not on any medications one would say fit and healthy. However both of my daughters have not been well after the vaccines the younger daughter who is having her secind baby had been asked to get her booster as she had taken the two moderna jabs. Well after having having the booster her 4th jab she has had problems where she now has to inject herself eachday with an anticolagulant not sure if this is warfrin/ rat poison and I find this horrendous as this will cross into the placenta. She is in the nhs and was pushed to take this ir not work. I am now healthier than my children and no flu problems as I have never had the flu jab, so my immune system is excellent. My neighbour who is the same age as myself had taken the jabs after her fourth dose she was admitted into hospital and kept for 48 hours after was sent home with a perscription for warfrin and a card to carry at all times potential stroke. All the other neighbours that did not take the vaccine are perfectly healthy.
The strange thing is the meeting that took place with Witty etc in March 2021 here is a goverment paper which tells of the affects of those vaccinated. .Page 10 para 32
32. The resurgence in both hospitalisations and deaths is dominated by those that have received two doses of the vaccine, comprising around 60% and 70% of the wave respectively. This can be attributed to the high levels of uptake in the most at-risk age groups, such that immunisation failures account for more serious illness than unvaccinated individuals. This is discussed further in paragraphs 55 and 56.
link here https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/975909/S1182_SPI-M-O_Summary_of_modelling_of_easing_roadmap_step_2_restrictions.pdf
I had the J&J with booster since at least tried technology. I believe its a simple case of pay-for-play with the FDA. It is a thoroughly corrupt agency. Pfizer has always been given the inside track even though Moderna has been shown to perform better than Pfizer. I am not surprised and am delighted to see the adenovector vaccines perform best.
Listen to this TED talk by Prof. Stabell-Benn four years ago:
https://www.ted.com/talks/christine_stabell_benn_how_vaccines_train_the_immune_system_in_ways_no_one_expected/transcript
Less than one year after receiving the Pfizer doses of Covid vaccine I became ill with giant cell arteritis and polymyalgia rheumatica, an autoimmune disease of the vascular system. It’s a rare disease. I wonder if the incidence will rise in the future ?
My cousins suffered flare ups of existing illnesses. I am not anti-vax but I think more research is needed on the immune compromised and vaccines.
This may be wide of the mark but more major league players are being hit by pitches thrown this year. Is part of the side effect of MRNA a weakening of the heart muscles and a change in the energy patterns of muscles in general. Just musing.
L Friedman
Rising prices for petrol might be another side effect.
Well it looks like the so called scientific revolution ends with covid because nobody knows what the f is really happening for sure.
Sorry to be dense. Can someone explain what all-cause mortality means and how it is measured?
I have an idea of what it means but I’m not sure. So you take a group of people who have been given the same vaccine and then you count how many of them die for whatever reason. But there must be a time limit on that since we will all die sometime. And also does it make any difference if those people were healthy or not before the vaccine was administered.
You take the people who have received one vaccine, and then count how many have died, from all causes. You then compare them to the people who got a different vaccine, or no vaccine at all. If when you are done counting, you conclude that the people who got mRNA vaccines, while not dying of covid, are dying of other things at a much higher rate than those who did not, you begin to worry if the mRNA vaccines depress your immune system so much that diseases you already had cannot be dealt with on an ongoing basis. Vaccinated people are reporting a surge in herpes type viral diseases, epstein-barr (mononucleois) and CMV infections. These are the sort of things that sit around dormant in most people who have recovered from them and never, or rarely cause them trouble again. They also do not usually kill you, even if they do reoccur. So we need to drill down more on ‘is there a pattern as to how these people died?’ But things like Epstein-Barr, which up until very recently was filed under ‘virus of no particular concern, though mononucleosis is very annoying’ and which is present in 95% of people world-wide is now known to be implicated for something like 40% of Hodgkin’s Lymphoma and is now implicated for Multiple Sclerosis, too. Since we don’t know the exact mechanism about how this happens, we don’t know how dangerous to your health having your EBV come out of where it has been lying dormant is. But the answer could be, _very_.
And, of course, EBV is just one virus ….
Thanks Laura, when you say “count how many have died” shouldn’t there be some kind of time limit on that? Wouldn’t you have to say something like “count how many have died within 6 months of the vaccination”. Because we all die sometime. I’m not trying to be funny but “Any cause” covers a wide range of effects some long term and some short term. I was thinking of the practicalities of actually collecting the data. You’ve got a list of people who were vaccinated, when they were vaccinated and when they died. I assume you don’t need to know what caused their death (which might be ‘run over by a bus’) only that they died. In this study I guess it covers a period of say 12 to 18 months after vaccination so any affects longer than that would not be noticed. Is that right?
The answer to your question can be found in the ‘Methods’ section of the study publication which can be reached using the link in the article. The answer is a bit complicated.
In brief, in January 2022 they searched PubMed for all random controlled trials of mRNA and adenovirus covid vaccines. They grouped deaths of all trial participants into various categories (covid, accident, etc).
They examined mortality risk (overall risk of dying as result of vaccination as measured during the follow up periods of the underlying vaccination studies) rather than mortality rate (risk of dying in a specific time period) because the follow up times after vaccination were not the same for all vaccine studies analyzed in this meta-analysis. I think that’s the key study design feature for your question. You’re doubtless correct that if you follow a group of people long enough they all die. In this meta-analysis, the longest period of time in which risk of dying was measured was the longest analysis period in any of the vaccine studies combined in this meta-analysis, which was a few months. Hope that helps.
Hi Steve,
“All-cause mortality” does literally mean ‘death from any/all causes’, yes.
Clinical trials often (though not always) include ‘all-cause mortality as a ‘clinical endpoint’, which means that they monitor this metric in addition to other metrics they’re running the trials to establish. An example…
Let’s rewind back to the early days of developing cancer drugs, and a trial is being done to see if this exciting new drug can successfully shrink a tumour, and if so by how much. So tumour shrinkage is the key clinical endpoint of this trial. So far so good.
But, what if it turns out that the drug is great at shrinking tumours, but it’s also highly toxic and is killing the participants (not just their tumours). This is crucial to know, because the goal of medicine is overall health. We don’t want to shrink a tumour but kill the patient, so it’s common to add all-cause mortality as a further clinical endpoint, so we can monitor whether people in the intervention group are dying at a lower or higher rate than the control group.
So why monitor ‘all causes’ of mortality, and not just ‘did people die of drug-related reactions’ in this trial? …the answer is that the drug could be causing harm/death in patients, via opaque mechanisms that are hard to attribute. All-cause mortality is crude metric (and often other clinical endpoints are used as well to check for further specific health markers) but ACM let’s us see the headline safety signal very clearly. If more people are dying in the intervention group than in the placebo group, then we have an alarm going off and we can respond to that safety signal quickly and investigate.
To your question about timeframes for monitoring adverse effects and death, it varies by study. Naturally, if you wanted to game the system and have your drug look better, you’d have a shorter monitoring window (or perhaps not even include ACM as a clinical endpoint… cough, cough, Pfizer). That would be bad practice, but it happens a lot.
Thanks JJ, There is another time effect I thought of. Suppose vaccine A works brilliantly. It gives 100% protection. But only for a month after which it gives no protection. Vaccine B only gives say 50% protection but it gives that protection for 3 months. I’m not sure of the maths here but I think if you looked at the figures over a 1 month period vaccine A would look best. Over a 3 month period vaccine B would look best.
It’s actually worse than that. Let us say that you are an evil person, and have produced a substance which, when injected, for 10 days makes it very much more likely that you will catch covid. It doesn’t protect against the disease at all. (Note, I am not saying that this is what the existing vaccines are. This is a thought experiment.)
Then you design a trial where people aren’t counted as vaccinated until 14 days after having received their dose. You then go out and vaccinate people. The only result of this is that lots of newly vaccinated people get sick, by your design. And many die. But all of them will be counted in the unvaccinated side of the ledger. This would be a case of ‘how to lie with statistics’ in its simple and pure form. The more you harmed people, the better your results would look.
This is the sort of lying that people who are in positions of public trust are supposed to protect the public against. And it’s easy to check for. It’s not as if the people who run the trials don’t know when the people caught the disease, and couldn’t answer questions about the incidence in the newly vaccinated. ‘Would it be a good idea for people to isolate for 14 days after receiving a dose of the vaccine?’ is something that we ought to be able to answer. “Yes. No. Not when cases are low, but yes when they are over such-and-such threshold”. It’s not that hard a question, given that you have the data.
But when you look at the results of drug trials, what you often see is a game of cat-and-mouse where the drug manufacturers are trying to pull the wool over the eyes of the regulators. Or worse, where the regulators are already captured, and just need some study to cloak their decisions with the appearance of good judgement.
This is why we need to take the drug trials out of the hands of the industry that produces them, and approval out of an administrative class that is shielded from all responsibility when things turn out badly, and hand it over to something that more subject to popular control and oversight.
They must know there are many who already saw this coming and knew everything they said was a lie.
My role was with the real threat which is unpredictable but it is a natural happening as it happend long ago. Amaizing, who would have thought that they would use a jab and try to scare the public into taking this as it worked well with the propaganda.
I am surprised so many fell for this especially intelligent people, whom never questiond!
I watched a film recently which was just as the covid senario where people took this pill given by the goverment on their own accord under the beleif they would die a painful death of they did not.At the end of the film the only survivor was a young cleaver boy who refused. Almost like the allegory of the cave by Plato. No one wanted to see the light..
I am still wondering where this virus is as I have had a flu type virus in 2019 lasted 48 hours and have not been ill since but my two vaccinated daughters have been very ill after these jabs and boosters with colds and sores now a pregnant daughter who has to inject herself daily with an anticolagulant into her tummy and being in herseven month.
So from what I have witnessed these jabs are not fit for humans and should be withdrawn. .
Here is something interesting which I had passed to my neighbours too over a year ago
page 10 para 32
32. The resurgence in both hospitalisations and deaths is dominated by those that have received two doses of the vaccine, comprising around 60% and 70% of the wave respectively. This can be attributed to the high levels of uptake in the most at-risk age groups, such that immunisation failures account for more serious illness than unvaccinated individuals. This is discussed further in paragraphs 55 and 56.
link here https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/975909/S1182_SPI-M-O_Summary_of_modelling_of_easing_roadmap_step_2_restrictions.pdf
If one would be looking for real answers they would look to NASA and the problem with the sun where this natural phenomina with the sun is taking place and what it means for the modern world as we know it. The affects will worsen and displacement of people together with the food shortages will cause a big problem so go figure why this is happening.The events to come will remove the surpless without mans intervention.
Forgive me as I am angry what they have done to my daughters.
Thanks for that explanation. Few treatments are entirely without side effects and it takes time to establish what they are and whether the burden of the side effects outweighs the benefits. Unfortunately, commercial and/or political pressures can delay or disrupt acceptance of the scientific work done to establish where the balance lies.
My daughter was really healthy played tennis and very active with a toddler as well as a working medic.
I tried to tell my daughters not to take any of these vaccines, as I did quite a bit of research. I am 72 and not on any medications one would say fit and healthy.and a good diet just as my fit daughter prior to the vaccines. However both of my daughters have not been well after the vaccines the younger daughter who is having her secind baby had been asked to get her fourth booster in her second trimester of pregnancy baby due in in Feb 2023 as she had taken the moderna jabs. Well after having having this booster her 4th jab she has had problems where she now has to inject herself eachday with an anticolagulant not sure if this is warfrin/ rat poison and I find this horrendous as this will cross into the placenta. She is in the nhs and was pushed to take this or not work.
I am now healthier than my children and no flu problems, I have never had the flu jabs, so my immune system is excellent. My neighbour who is the same age as myself had taken the jabs after her fourth dose she was admitted into hospital with pulpatations and kept for 48 hours after was sent home with a perscription for warfrin and a card to carry at all times potential stroke. All the other neighbours that did not take the vaccine are perfectly healthy. (A lucky escape from the horror others are experiencing)
The strange thing is the meeting that took place with Witty etc in March 2021 here is a goverment paper which tells of the affects of those vaccinated. .Page 10 para 32
32. The resurgence in both hospitalisations and deaths is dominated by those that have received two doses of the vaccine, comprising around 60% and 70% of the wave respectively. This can be attributed to the high levels of uptake in the most at-risk age groups, such that immunisation failures account for more serious illness than unvaccinated individuals. This is discussed further in paragraphs 55 and 56.
link here https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/975909/S1182_SPI-M-O_Summary_of_modelling_of_easing_roadmap_step_2_restrictions.pdf
Well Iknow who to hold accountable for the coercion and the threats of no work. My message to my grand children is to trust no one,go by your own instincts and understand the rats who are not your friends. .
Did Dr. Christine Stabell-Benn misspoke at 30:00 ? Didn’t she really mean she does not recommend mRNA to BELOW 50 not “above”. Asking since she thinks mrna reward outweighs risk for over 75.
I presume these adenovirus vaccines (AZ and JJ) were non-live vaccines. But Prof Christine in her 2018 TED talk flagged below suggests non-live vaccines are less beneficial than live vaccines (sometimes even harmful). But even so these non-live vaccines appear to be more beneficial than mRNA ones.
AZ is not good either. I got full body neuropathy from AZ vax.
Medical research in the United States has, on average, lower quality than medical research in the European Union because American organizations use affirmative action (which gives preferential treatment to Hispanics and Africans) to hire scientists, engineers, physicians, etc.
Get more info about affirmative action.
The issue of which type of vaccine is best is interesting but the question of whether vaccines are useful seems to not be well addressed in this study. The value of a vaccine is not just to the person being vaccinated but to others who might not be infected by a person if the vaccine reduces that person’s chances of being infected. Also, it reduces the chances of a virus mutating and non of that was considered by this study.
Except that I have it on good authority from a virologist researcher that in at least the case of the Pfizer mRNA vaccine the trial data showed that post vaccination a person was over 300% more likely to contract Covid than prior to vaccination. Also there is study data that shows from both Israel and other countries that vaccinated asymptomatic cases post vaccination shed virus and are just as likely to infect another person as a fully symptomatic un-vaccinated person. Myself and My fiancee are perfect examples of that. After waiting hoping for more conclusive data we VERY reluctantly decided to get vaccinated in late May 2021. Mostly because it was becoming clear that her career in health care working at a cancer infusion clinic would be terminated if she did not follow through with her employers forced vaccination mandate. Secondarily, we had a long planned trip to Mexico scheduled for October 2021 and were concerned we would not be allowed to travel by the Gestapo’s in the US government without vaccination proof. She got Pfizer and I got JnJ. We both worked all through Covid in 2020 and 2021 as our jobs were “essential”. During that time we know with absolute certainty that in combination we were directly exposed no less than 38 times. Yet never got Covid. Post vaccination and the drop off of protection in the 3-4 month range seem to be when you are most susceptible to catching Covid. Well GUESS WHAT? After being exposed literally dozens of times we both got Covid in Sept 2021 precisely 3-4 months post vaccination and just before our October trip. We are both in good health and historically are rarely sick. Since we got vaccinated both of us have had repeated head colds and suspect we had Covid again earlier this spring. No we did not test this spring but the symptoms matched. The year since we got vaccinated has been the most generally UN-healthy year we have both ever had. I regret completely getting vaccinated and there is absolutely NO WAY IN HELL I will ever get any booster shots of these Garbage vaccines. My fiancee has had the more serious and consistent nagging colds and sinus infections that I and she got the mRNA. I have constant joint aches and pain that I never had before. These started almost immediately after getting the JnJ shot.