Henry Kissinger memorably observed that the reason academic fights were so vicious was that the prizes were so small. So it has been in the Labour Party for most of the last 13 years, when the chances of overturning the Conservative administrations of the day were so unlikely that Labour MPs could focus on their real enemies — each other.
But slowly and decisively, silence has fallen on the Labour Party ahead of a purported reshuffle. Within its ranks, there seems to be a dogged determination to win. Unity of will doesn’t guarantee anything in a general election, but its opposite, disunity, is political death — as backbench Tory MPs are likely to see in the coming by-elections.
Of course, political energy has to go somewhere, and with Labour looking increasingly likely to be at least the largest party in the Commons after the next election, all the spinning is going into self-promotion to secure, or retain, a post in Keir Starmer’s Shadow Cabinet. With a Labour opinion-poll lead over the Tories that in recent weeks has been between 16 and 25 points, it would be a “Golden Ticket”.
Hence the flurry of earnest speculation about which senior Labour figures could be sacked or sidelined in the coming weeks. When political editors are asked, “So, what is Keir Starmer going to do?”, the only honest answer is: “Nobody knows.” For, in contrast to most other modern Labour leaders, Starmer does not provide a running commentary to the Westminster Lobby; nor does he have a newspaper columnist who serves as “court reporter”. Starmer stays silent, acts and then moves on.
Will there be a reshuffle? We don’t know. Should there be one? Absolutely. This is the last sensible moment before the election — it’s now or never.
There are clear rules Starmer should follow. First, a reshuffle must have a clear political purpose — or don’t do it. This is not a technical matter; it’s a demonstration of leadership. Previous reshuffles have reflected Starmer’s relative strength as leader, needing to balance factions in both the Parliamentary Labour Party and the movement as a whole. It is, after all, less than two years since the UK’s Covid “Freedom Day”, when it seemed as though Boris Johnson would carry politics before him for the rest of the decade. Yet Starmer is now on his third prime minister. There have been so many Tory reshuffles and departmental reorganisations since the 2019 general election that Labour’s Shadow Cabinet no longer “shadows” the government.
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SubscribeWhile I’m sure Mr. McTernan is an expert on Labour Party Kremlinology, but when he uses the phrase ‘strong performer’ in the same sentence as ‘David Lammy,’ I had to chuckle. Ditto Yvette ‘two houses’ Cooper, a Blairite retread we all remember for her house-flipping shenanigans.
While I’m sure Mr. McTernan is an expert on Labour Party Kremlinology, but when he uses the phrase ‘strong performer’ in the same sentence as ‘David Lammy,’ I had to chuckle. Ditto Yvette ‘two houses’ Cooper, a Blairite retread we all remember for her house-flipping shenanigans.
Angela Rayner – “huge talents”?? God save us all.
Even worse – David Lammy. If he’s seen as minister material, we might as well give up. Not that some Tory ministers should’ve been anywhere near a brief either, the most notorious being Gavin Williamson, who changed briefs regularly but soiled them all.
He might be a heavyweight, but there’s no known universe in which he’s a top performer at his current job.
He might be a heavyweight, but there’s no known universe in which he’s a top performer at his current job.
Angela Rayner doesn’t have any GCSEs let alone A levels or – help me Bob – a degree. Does JM not understand that you actually need to be quite intelligent to run a civil service department as secretary of state or junior minister? Surely, she is there as the unions’ representative, to make sure KS gives the unions value for money. I don’t recall her doing anything in Parliament other than slag people off.
Even worse – David Lammy. If he’s seen as minister material, we might as well give up. Not that some Tory ministers should’ve been anywhere near a brief either, the most notorious being Gavin Williamson, who changed briefs regularly but soiled them all.
Angela Rayner doesn’t have any GCSEs let alone A levels or – help me Bob – a degree. Does JM not understand that you actually need to be quite intelligent to run a civil service department as secretary of state or junior minister? Surely, she is there as the unions’ representative, to make sure KS gives the unions value for money. I don’t recall her doing anything in Parliament other than slag people off.
Angela Rayner – “huge talents”?? God save us all.
Angela Raynor, David Lammy, Ed Milliband!! Monster Raving Loony Party are getting my vote next year.
Good calls, Starmer clearly dislikes Raynor, he can’t sack her however as she was voted in by the members so merely sidelines her.
I expect that either the SDP or Reform will get my vote next time round …. they seem to have more common sense than the mainstream parties. I do however recognise that this is rather a low bar to chin …
Good calls, Starmer clearly dislikes Raynor, he can’t sack her however as she was voted in by the members so merely sidelines her.
I expect that either the SDP or Reform will get my vote next time round …. they seem to have more common sense than the mainstream parties. I do however recognise that this is rather a low bar to chin …
Angela Raynor, David Lammy, Ed Milliband!! Monster Raving Loony Party are getting my vote next year.
“Elsewhere, there are easier decisions for Starmer to make, such as keeping the strong performers where they are: …David (“hoarding rights”) Lammy…”.
I spat out my tea reading that.
Lammy – the professional grifter …
Lammy – the professional grifter …
“Elsewhere, there are easier decisions for Starmer to make, such as keeping the strong performers where they are: …David (“hoarding rights”) Lammy…”.
I spat out my tea reading that.
“former advisor to Tony Blair” Says it all. Who are we trotting out next week, Alistair Campbell, Tom Watson? Why not.
Unherd should try and maintain some standards..
And Julia Gillard.
AC and TW, you’re onto something there PR. Good call.
Out of interest though, what are the standards you refer to?
Separate but I think related, given the Right been in power for 13yrs, and the Govt of the day always gets more media time, plus of course majority of the media has a right wing bias, I often wonder if Unherd should change it’s title to just ‘Herd’, but perhaps one for another day.
I dispute your claim that the government of the day always gets more media time.
How many times have you heard this sort of thing on BBC radio news:
“The government will announce a plan to do X later today. Labour have denounced this as [garbage] because …”. Followed by a soundbite from a Labour politician.
So a government initiative is turned into a story about Labour attacking some “broken policy”. The BBC don’t actually expand on what the policy is, so you have no opportunity to judge for yourself before the actual Labour (and implied BBC) denuciation kicks in.
It’s not simply the volume of airtime that matters here. It’s also the quality and context.
I’m not sure what you’re measuring when you claim that the “majority of the media has a right wing bias”. Newspapers are a minority of the media these days. TV certainly isn’t right wing.
Think you’ll find the daily lobby packed with journos and that’s a massive advantage to Govt on how it gets out messages. Obviously the public broadcast is obliged to balance.
Any scan of the print media headlines every day tell you all you want to know about the Right’s advantage.
Think you’ll find the daily lobby packed with journos and that’s a massive advantage to Govt on how it gets out messages. Obviously the public broadcast is obliged to balance.
Any scan of the print media headlines every day tell you all you want to know about the Right’s advantage.
I know you’re a Blairite, but surely even you can’t be seriously proposing a return to power of these two? That would be a grave insult to the memory of their victims, wouldn’t it?
Given TB not been in power for 16years I must admit I’m not sure what being a Blairite would entail. Do you have a decent description as may help with self-assessment?
I don’t foresee AC or TW returning to power though. That generation has passed. Not sure AC is a Lab member anymore either. But as a different perspective on what we usually see on Unherd not a bad idea. Certainly get me to roll over my subscription if for nothing else than to read the responses!
Given TB not been in power for 16years I must admit I’m not sure what being a Blairite would entail. Do you have a decent description as may help with self-assessment?
I don’t foresee AC or TW returning to power though. That generation has passed. Not sure AC is a Lab member anymore either. But as a different perspective on what we usually see on Unherd not a bad idea. Certainly get me to roll over my subscription if for nothing else than to read the responses!
Mere tribalism on your part: The Conservative Party is right wing only in your imagination. Similarly, you are left wing, only in your imagination.
Didn’t Einstein say something about imagination being more important than knowledge or similar? Well there’s a thought for us.
You’re not Einstein.
Razor sharp today PR
Razor sharp today PR
You’re not Einstein.
Didn’t Einstein say something about imagination being more important than knowledge or similar? Well there’s a thought for us.
I dispute your claim that the government of the day always gets more media time.
How many times have you heard this sort of thing on BBC radio news:
“The government will announce a plan to do X later today. Labour have denounced this as [garbage] because …”. Followed by a soundbite from a Labour politician.
So a government initiative is turned into a story about Labour attacking some “broken policy”. The BBC don’t actually expand on what the policy is, so you have no opportunity to judge for yourself before the actual Labour (and implied BBC) denuciation kicks in.
It’s not simply the volume of airtime that matters here. It’s also the quality and context.
I’m not sure what you’re measuring when you claim that the “majority of the media has a right wing bias”. Newspapers are a minority of the media these days. TV certainly isn’t right wing.
I know you’re a Blairite, but surely even you can’t be seriously proposing a return to power of these two? That would be a grave insult to the memory of their victims, wouldn’t it?
Mere tribalism on your part: The Conservative Party is right wing only in your imagination. Similarly, you are left wing, only in your imagination.
A bit of Kremlinology does no harm. The future Labour Executive we are promised by the polls needs a good look over. The present bunch are so mediocre and shadowy it is painful. I wonder who all the new Labour MPs will be?? Mandelsonian urban lawyers and greedy doctors? Or will those rough cold eyed Corbyista class warriors return to fill the benches?? More interrogation please. The entire political class – bereft of any real life experience – are now dangerously detached and of such poor quality it is scary. They all even think alike now (net zero/lockdown/high tax/stonewall diversity groupthink). This of course was one of the reasons why the Blairite/EU revolution shifted power away from the Cabinet to grown up permanent unelected technocrats…..- like Andrew Bailey, the Water & Energy Regulators, the never seen NHS leaders and the judicial overreaching judges. Doh!!!! We needed a brand new idea about governance of the UK State long before Starmer’s anonymous clueless visionless hordes reached the Palace. But it is too late now.
And Julia Gillard.
AC and TW, you’re onto something there PR. Good call.
Out of interest though, what are the standards you refer to?
Separate but I think related, given the Right been in power for 13yrs, and the Govt of the day always gets more media time, plus of course majority of the media has a right wing bias, I often wonder if Unherd should change it’s title to just ‘Herd’, but perhaps one for another day.
A bit of Kremlinology does no harm. The future Labour Executive we are promised by the polls needs a good look over. The present bunch are so mediocre and shadowy it is painful. I wonder who all the new Labour MPs will be?? Mandelsonian urban lawyers and greedy doctors? Or will those rough cold eyed Corbyista class warriors return to fill the benches?? More interrogation please. The entire political class – bereft of any real life experience – are now dangerously detached and of such poor quality it is scary. They all even think alike now (net zero/lockdown/high tax/stonewall diversity groupthink). This of course was one of the reasons why the Blairite/EU revolution shifted power away from the Cabinet to grown up permanent unelected technocrats…..- like Andrew Bailey, the Water & Energy Regulators, the never seen NHS leaders and the judicial overreaching judges. Doh!!!! We needed a brand new idea about governance of the UK State long before Starmer’s anonymous clueless visionless hordes reached the Palace. But it is too late now.
“former advisor to Tony Blair” Says it all. Who are we trotting out next week, Alistair Campbell, Tom Watson? Why not.
Unherd should try and maintain some standards..
Christ almighty, reading through those names has been a grade A reminder, in case we’ve forgotten, of how awful the standard of Labour politicians is. They are worsted only by their frenemies across the floor. The next election truly is a choice between whether you want your plate of dog mess heated or cold.
It’s been that choice for years – they’re not interested in meaningful change
It’s been that choice for years – they’re not interested in meaningful change
Christ almighty, reading through those names has been a grade A reminder, in case we’ve forgotten, of how awful the standard of Labour politicians is. They are worsted only by their frenemies across the floor. The next election truly is a choice between whether you want your plate of dog mess heated or cold.
In 1997, when New Labour came to power, a young blue collar worker – a fork lift driver or paramedic, say – could reasonably expect to become a homeowner or rent affordably, enjoy a degree of job and financial security and a rising standard of living, and get a same day GP appointment and fairly prompt hospital treatment.
By 2010 all that was gone. During the same years all my middle class neighbours became millionaires.
We should never forget that it was a Labour Chancellor who changed the RPI calculations in order to conceal just how completely this writer and his cronies had betrayed their voters.
Now they’re back. God help us.
I’m no Labour voter but that’s a somewhat partial assessment to say the least. I had no trouble getting a GP appointment until COVID and the 2008 financial crash certainly caused a lot of damage. The NHS was in much better health then than it is now though. Whether you liked Blair or not, at least they had a plan. The current lot haven’t even got that. What is Rishi’s plan?
I’m not convinced Blair had a resource plan for the c5 million extra people that his policies added to the population.
A good point, but the current crop of ‘Conservatives’ have merely fostered an increase in the number of new arrivals
Perhaps he was hoping to send them to Iraq?
A good point, but the current crop of ‘Conservatives’ have merely fostered an increase in the number of new arrivals
Perhaps he was hoping to send them to Iraq?
I’m not convinced Blair had a resource plan for the c5 million extra people that his policies added to the population.
Damn right. New Labour first weakened the bond with the working man by embracing the ultra capitalist EU Single Market and so torched the national labour market with mass immigration. That same unplanned flood of people – near 1m a year – helped the urban middle classes to become super rich via the warped property market…1m demand plus 10 new houses = 100k capital gain untaxed… thank you (30m portfolio,) Tony & all the subsequent Westminster classes in on the scam! The 2008 Crash was the final act in this flaying amd betrayal of the non London,/SE working class as QE and xero interest bailouts further entrenched the unearned wealth of these middle class ‘propetocrats’. It was pure class war. And the defence of this Midas like property wealth was the primary force behind Remainer derangement. They would do anything – inc subverting our democracy – to preserve this inequitable status quo.
I could not express it better myself.
“ultra capitalist EU….” that is the most hilarious description of them that I have ever heard.
How about “ultra protectionist trade block” ?
Er…look up the Single Market why don’t you. And the economic consequences of EU enlargement. Margaret Thatcher was evangelical for it, as were all the barons of German industrial & banking who dominate the Project, because it was a gift to global capitalism, as was its expansion into the fresh cheaper labour markets of the East. One of the most pathetic/hilarious/eye popping sights of the last decade has been watching hardcore hysterical (dumb as ****) Socialists and young Corbynistas wrapping themselves in the EU flag, while the EU & ruthless German bankers were busy waterboarding Greece, spreading mass youth employment in the south, wooing Putin and Xi with amoral zeal and generally enjoying the total collapse of national labour markets & trade union power. An earlier generation of Socialists in 60s and 70s knew well that the EU was a hardcore capitalist club with fuzzy liberal add-ons designed to beguile naive folk like you. Is it Remainia derangement that makes you question one of the most obvious truths about the EU?
Thanks for making more effort than I did.
Thanks for making more effort than I did.
How about “ultra protectionist trade block” ?
Er…look up the Single Market why don’t you. And the economic consequences of EU enlargement. Margaret Thatcher was evangelical for it, as were all the barons of German industrial & banking who dominate the Project, because it was a gift to global capitalism, as was its expansion into the fresh cheaper labour markets of the East. One of the most pathetic/hilarious/eye popping sights of the last decade has been watching hardcore hysterical (dumb as ****) Socialists and young Corbynistas wrapping themselves in the EU flag, while the EU & ruthless German bankers were busy waterboarding Greece, spreading mass youth employment in the south, wooing Putin and Xi with amoral zeal and generally enjoying the total collapse of national labour markets & trade union power. An earlier generation of Socialists in 60s and 70s knew well that the EU was a hardcore capitalist club with fuzzy liberal add-ons designed to beguile naive folk like you. Is it Remainia derangement that makes you question one of the most obvious truths about the EU?
Tony Blair ran the Labour party (and the country) like Basil Fawlty on Gourmet Night – regularly insult and abuse Labour’s permanent guests in the hope of attracting a better class of clientele. Fact: New Labour lost all but five million votes in office from 1997 to 2010. Fact: Blair’s landslide in 1997 was gained with 600,000 fewer votes than the Tories won under John Major in 1992. Oh, and please could it be WHOM should Starmer sack?
I could not express it better myself.
“ultra capitalist EU….” that is the most hilarious description of them that I have ever heard.
Tony Blair ran the Labour party (and the country) like Basil Fawlty on Gourmet Night – regularly insult and abuse Labour’s permanent guests in the hope of attracting a better class of clientele. Fact: New Labour lost all but five million votes in office from 1997 to 2010. Fact: Blair’s landslide in 1997 was gained with 600,000 fewer votes than the Tories won under John Major in 1992. Oh, and please could it be WHOM should Starmer sack?
Well said. The main beneficiaries of New Labour were the private equity guys and hedge funds who were handed huge tax breaks. Voters cannot be blamed for forgetting things they may never have been aware of!
I’m no Labour voter but that’s a somewhat partial assessment to say the least. I had no trouble getting a GP appointment until COVID and the 2008 financial crash certainly caused a lot of damage. The NHS was in much better health then than it is now though. Whether you liked Blair or not, at least they had a plan. The current lot haven’t even got that. What is Rishi’s plan?
Damn right. New Labour first weakened the bond with the working man by embracing the ultra capitalist EU Single Market and so torched the national labour market with mass immigration. That same unplanned flood of people – near 1m a year – helped the urban middle classes to become super rich via the warped property market…1m demand plus 10 new houses = 100k capital gain untaxed… thank you (30m portfolio,) Tony & all the subsequent Westminster classes in on the scam! The 2008 Crash was the final act in this flaying amd betrayal of the non London,/SE working class as QE and xero interest bailouts further entrenched the unearned wealth of these middle class ‘propetocrats’. It was pure class war. And the defence of this Midas like property wealth was the primary force behind Remainer derangement. They would do anything – inc subverting our democracy – to preserve this inequitable status quo.
Well said. The main beneficiaries of New Labour were the private equity guys and hedge funds who were handed huge tax breaks. Voters cannot be blamed for forgetting things they may never have been aware of!
In 1997, when New Labour came to power, a young blue collar worker – a fork lift driver or paramedic, say – could reasonably expect to become a homeowner or rent affordably, enjoy a degree of job and financial security and a rising standard of living, and get a same day GP appointment and fairly prompt hospital treatment.
By 2010 all that was gone. During the same years all my middle class neighbours became millionaires.
We should never forget that it was a Labour Chancellor who changed the RPI calculations in order to conceal just how completely this writer and his cronies had betrayed their voters.
Now they’re back. God help us.
David Lammy? Strong performer? Perhaps if we’re measuring race baiting as a job criterion.
David Lammy? Strong performer? Perhaps if we’re measuring race baiting as a job criterion.
Englishmen face extinction if the next cabinet contains Cooper, Harman, Rayner, Abbot etc.
Labour’s next cabinet needs to include fewer “misandry advocates” if it wants to attract more male voters. The inclusion of any “race grifters” won’t help its chances either.
That’s interesting. How?
They all have an “equity” approach to sex-based issues – rather than an “equality” approach. The gender pay gap policy introduced by Theresa May (another one) is a great example of this mentality.
They all have an “equity” approach to sex-based issues – rather than an “equality” approach. The gender pay gap policy introduced by Theresa May (another one) is a great example of this mentality.
That’s interesting. How?
Englishmen face extinction if the next cabinet contains Cooper, Harman, Rayner, Abbot etc.
Labour’s next cabinet needs to include fewer “misandry advocates” if it wants to attract more male voters. The inclusion of any “race grifters” won’t help its chances either.
Since we’re gonna get Labour anyway, let’s go full clown-show and get it over with. Raynor for PM, Abbot for Chancellor and McTernan as their advisor. At least we’ll get a laugh.
Yeah, it’s gonna be an absolute riot, like an amputation without anesthetic.
Yeah, it’s gonna be an absolute riot, like an amputation without anesthetic.
Since we’re gonna get Labour anyway, let’s go full clown-show and get it over with. Raynor for PM, Abbot for Chancellor and McTernan as their advisor. At least we’ll get a laugh.
“The benefit of presiding over a predicted landslide is that it yields absolute authority for the leader.”
And yet, look at the Conservatives with a large majority, such a success allows the dissenters in a Party plenty of encouragement to follow their own political aims and be awkward. And Labour, despite the Starmer purge, has plenty of dissenters built in.
“The benefit of presiding over a predicted landslide is that it yields absolute authority for the leader.”
And yet, look at the Conservatives with a large majority, such a success allows the dissenters in a Party plenty of encouragement to follow their own political aims and be awkward. And Labour, despite the Starmer purge, has plenty of dissenters built in.
Brilliant idea. Lawyers, judges, and pension fund managers all appreciate being called “Tory thkoom”.
Brilliant idea. Lawyers, judges, and pension fund managers all appreciate being called “Tory thkoom”.
But race-based tokenism to appeal to your electorate is a harsh mistress.
That’s an excellent line, John, but can anyone tell me how to get cornflakes off my laptop?
Now I can’t get the image of Prescott chasing his secretary around his office, huffing and puffing while his fleet of Jaguar’s idles outside.
Use a cereal killer?
The “superb politician” phrase is now becoming a commonplace adjective for people who seem to be able to “talk the talk” but are otherwise useless. One N. Sturgeon springs to mind.
Now I can’t get the image of Prescott chasing his secretary around his office, huffing and puffing while his fleet of Jaguar’s idles outside.
Use a cereal killer?
The “superb politician” phrase is now becoming a commonplace adjective for people who seem to be able to “talk the talk” but are otherwise useless. One N. Sturgeon springs to mind.
But race-based tokenism to appeal to your electorate is a harsh mistress.
That’s an excellent line, John, but can anyone tell me how to get cornflakes off my laptop?
“the last thing Labour needs is a Shadow Justice Secretary trying to ramp up the Government’s ridiculous war on drugs“. The social cost of drug abuse is enormous, eroding the labour force and weighing on life expectancy. Drug deaths are rising, there is a mental health crisis not unrelated to drub abuse, and the criminal networks which control the drugs trade involve many tens of thousands of people in the UK. Yet any attempt to deal with this, other than through decriminalisation or legalisation (which in the US has led to far more drug abuse) is dismissed as “ridiculous”. As so often, radical policies are normalised by Labour “moderates”.
Good point. But they will be soft on drugs. The workers need their beer, the peasants need their religion, and the intellectuals need something a bit edgier.
Good point. But they will be soft on drugs. The workers need their beer, the peasants need their religion, and the intellectuals need something a bit edgier.
“the last thing Labour needs is a Shadow Justice Secretary trying to ramp up the Government’s ridiculous war on drugs“. The social cost of drug abuse is enormous, eroding the labour force and weighing on life expectancy. Drug deaths are rising, there is a mental health crisis not unrelated to drub abuse, and the criminal networks which control the drugs trade involve many tens of thousands of people in the UK. Yet any attempt to deal with this, other than through decriminalisation or legalisation (which in the US has led to far more drug abuse) is dismissed as “ridiculous”. As so often, radical policies are normalised by Labour “moderates”.
I’m never going to vote Labour so no amount of tinkering will change that. However given the Tories are a busted flush a competent Labour government may minimise the damage they will inevitably do. Sadly I doubt that will happen so we’ll get yet more socialist clap trap piled on top of failed current policies – immigration, NHS, defence, welfare etc etc.
I’m never going to vote Labour so no amount of tinkering will change that. However given the Tories are a busted flush a competent Labour government may minimise the damage they will inevitably do. Sadly I doubt that will happen so we’ll get yet more socialist clap trap piled on top of failed current policies – immigration, NHS, defence, welfare etc etc.
“…AI is transforming everything — but what has Labour had to say about this revolutionary moment?…”
My suggestion for what they should say is something appropriately radical for an appropriately radical party: that upon election, Labour will replace the entire cabinet, including the Prime Minister, with GPT-4, in the name of equity, diversity and anti alien speciescism. Think of it as the equivalent of the moment when Brown handed over control for monetary policy to the BoE immediately after coming to power.
And as a concession to reducing culture shock, they could, for a transition period, put permanent cardboard cutouts of the entire shadow cabinet in the Cabinet Office, because GPT-4 won’t be needing that (being resident in the Cloud). I would suggest animated high-tech VR simulacrums, but they will have to cut costs in these coming days of severe austerity and I don’t see what possible difference we the governed would notice.
Excellent idea! In Starmer’s case, i’m sure Madame Tussauds would oblige.
I guess it would be the first time ever anyone makes a waxworks dummy of a waxworks dummy.
Indeed – how would we tell the difference ?
and more lifelike than the real thing…
Indeed – how would we tell the difference ?
and more lifelike than the real thing…
Would anyone notice the difference though?
I guess it would be the first time ever anyone makes a waxworks dummy of a waxworks dummy.
Would anyone notice the difference though?
Excellent idea! In Starmer’s case, i’m sure Madame Tussauds would oblige.
“…AI is transforming everything — but what has Labour had to say about this revolutionary moment?…”
My suggestion for what they should say is something appropriately radical for an appropriately radical party: that upon election, Labour will replace the entire cabinet, including the Prime Minister, with GPT-4, in the name of equity, diversity and anti alien speciescism. Think of it as the equivalent of the moment when Brown handed over control for monetary policy to the BoE immediately after coming to power.
And as a concession to reducing culture shock, they could, for a transition period, put permanent cardboard cutouts of the entire shadow cabinet in the Cabinet Office, because GPT-4 won’t be needing that (being resident in the Cloud). I would suggest animated high-tech VR simulacrums, but they will have to cut costs in these coming days of severe austerity and I don’t see what possible difference we the governed would notice.
Miliband , Lamy and Reeves as the pick of the crop??? God save and protect us. In truth there is no point in pruning a dead tree.
Miliband , Lamy and Reeves as the pick of the crop??? God save and protect us. In truth there is no point in pruning a dead tree.
What is all this nonsense?
We haven’t had anything like a Tory Government for nigh on thirty years, so yet another burst of ‘reheated socialism’ is of little concern, regardless of the ‘hysterics’* who will be in charge.
(* Male and Female if that is grammatically possible.)
Agree. They cannot be more Socialist than the Fool Johnson on the economy. Game over. The problem is they CAN cause yet more mayhem in the social/cultural sphere, even during a wider spiral of decline. There is talk of even harder new Labour Racial Equality legislation…and with it the suppression of free speech and basic liberties. Identitarianism is the only hot live ideology the Progressive authoritarian Left cling too. Even the new ‘I am Tony’ Starmer cannot stop bending knees to the mob and dissing nasty terfs. Things will get very nasty for Tory scum, Brex scum, subsconcious raycist whitey male/patriarchs, anti Islamists & biology non conformists. China 68. Here we go…
Agree. They cannot be more Socialist than the Fool Johnson on the economy. Game over. The problem is they CAN cause yet more mayhem in the social/cultural sphere, even during a wider spiral of decline. There is talk of even harder new Labour Racial Equality legislation…and with it the suppression of free speech and basic liberties. Identitarianism is the only hot live ideology the Progressive authoritarian Left cling too. Even the new ‘I am Tony’ Starmer cannot stop bending knees to the mob and dissing nasty terfs. Things will get very nasty for Tory scum, Brex scum, subsconcious raycist whitey male/patriarchs, anti Islamists & biology non conformists. China 68. Here we go…
What is all this nonsense?
We haven’t had anything like a Tory Government for nigh on thirty years, so yet another burst of ‘reheated socialism’ is of little concern, regardless of the ‘hysterics’* who will be in charge.
(* Male and Female if that is grammatically possible.)
Labour under Starmer is just New Labour 2.0. They’ll win, but as a labour party they fail again.
Yes they will fail, but the popcorn munching element is *how* they’ll fail. Starmer doesn’t have the iron hand, charisma or PR clout Blair enjoyed. Nor does he have the luxury of a reasonably solvent treasury like the one New Labour inherited in 1997.
Furthermore, he still has a small but organised Corbynista rump to contend with. Angela is no doubt hoarding canned goods and weapons for resistance operations, unless Starmer gives her boyfriend a safe seat.
The only thing that will rescue Labour, as it sometimes does, is events (dear boy), i.e. the economic headwinds change to their benefit. They will still squander it on vanity projects and client voters, Labour’s gonna Labour.
Meanwhile, in opposition, the Tories will fight for the party’s soul like desert island survivors fighting for the last litre of drinking water. It will be nowhere like ready to fight off Starmer by 2029.
Meanwhile, more popcorn (if there’s any electricity left to make the stuff) as the ‘Postliberal Right’ so beloved of so many UnHerd writers will act as an unwelcome break on the populist parties the country probably needs to give the body politik some much-deserved electric shock therapy.
Yes they will fail, but the popcorn munching element is *how* they’ll fail. Starmer doesn’t have the iron hand, charisma or PR clout Blair enjoyed. Nor does he have the luxury of a reasonably solvent treasury like the one New Labour inherited in 1997.
Furthermore, he still has a small but organised Corbynista rump to contend with. Angela is no doubt hoarding canned goods and weapons for resistance operations, unless Starmer gives her boyfriend a safe seat.
The only thing that will rescue Labour, as it sometimes does, is events (dear boy), i.e. the economic headwinds change to their benefit. They will still squander it on vanity projects and client voters, Labour’s gonna Labour.
Meanwhile, in opposition, the Tories will fight for the party’s soul like desert island survivors fighting for the last litre of drinking water. It will be nowhere like ready to fight off Starmer by 2029.
Meanwhile, more popcorn (if there’s any electricity left to make the stuff) as the ‘Postliberal Right’ so beloved of so many UnHerd writers will act as an unwelcome break on the populist parties the country probably needs to give the body politik some much-deserved electric shock therapy.
Labour under Starmer is just New Labour 2.0. They’ll win, but as a labour party they fail again.
Whatever the huge talents of Angela Rayner she appears to be a huge vote loser.
Whatever the huge talents of Angela Rayner she appears to be a huge vote loser.
According to the byline: John McTernan is a British political strategist – from the Blair era, no less!
Well, as a seasoned political strategist he must know that the only election -winning tactic that really matters is to discern what the people want from a goverment and promise (or should that be, ‘pledge’) to deliver it. If the tactic results in victory then, the more ideologically driven among the victors, may try to push through a real, less popular, agenda (think of Harriet Harman in the Blair/Brown days if that’s not too unpalatable) .
For the most part, regardless of pledges, the country will be governed in the same inept muddle-through way it always has been.
By the way, McTernan’s last paragraph gives an amusing hint at the lack of self-awareness of those dwellers within the political/MSM bubble. They really do imagine that the public are keenly interested in everything they say.
According to the byline: John McTernan is a British political strategist – from the Blair era, no less!
Well, as a seasoned political strategist he must know that the only election -winning tactic that really matters is to discern what the people want from a goverment and promise (or should that be, ‘pledge’) to deliver it. If the tactic results in victory then, the more ideologically driven among the victors, may try to push through a real, less popular, agenda (think of Harriet Harman in the Blair/Brown days if that’s not too unpalatable) .
For the most part, regardless of pledges, the country will be governed in the same inept muddle-through way it always has been.
By the way, McTernan’s last paragraph gives an amusing hint at the lack of self-awareness of those dwellers within the political/MSM bubble. They really do imagine that the public are keenly interested in everything they say.
My concern is replacing @lisanandy with @AngelaRayner. My impression of ms Rayner is of a classist blowhard whereas Lisa Nandy is doing a good job. To give ms Rayner the benefit of the doubt can anyone point me to a youtube video of ms Rayner giving a speech which involves some intellectual heft and grasp of serious detail.
My concern is replacing @lisanandy with @AngelaRayner. My impression of ms Rayner is of a classist blowhard whereas Lisa Nandy is doing a good job. To give ms Rayner the benefit of the doubt can anyone point me to a youtube video of ms Rayner giving a speech which involves some intellectual heft and grasp of serious detail.
If our job centre was devolved to my local council it would be bankrupt within months.
If our job centre was devolved to my local council it would be bankrupt within months.
Reshuffles are destructive of coherent policies and should be kept to a bare minimum, both in and out of office.
Reshuffles are destructive of coherent policies and should be kept to a bare minimum, both in and out of office.
Speaking not as a Labour voter, getting rid of Angela Rayner would be a vote winner. She no appeal to the swing voters Labour needs.
I think Starmer will be in trouble soon after he comes to power, if he does. Jeremy Corbyn’s reign brought back memories of the 1980s. The SWP hadn’t gone away, they’d just aged 30 years; and they stilll haven’t gone away. They’ve finally realised they should keep quiet until Labour is in power. How would Starmer have then dealt with the current wave of strikes? I think we know the answer.
Speaking not as a Labour voter, getting rid of Angela Rayner would be a vote winner. She no appeal to the swing voters Labour needs.
I think Starmer will be in trouble soon after he comes to power, if he does. Jeremy Corbyn’s reign brought back memories of the 1980s. The SWP hadn’t gone away, they’d just aged 30 years; and they stilll haven’t gone away. They’ve finally realised they should keep quiet until Labour is in power. How would Starmer have then dealt with the current wave of strikes? I think we know the answer.
Good grief, Starmer hasn’t got much in the way of material, has he?
Quite how John thinks any of those he’s praised here are capable of making their departments better or delivering for people, I’m entirely unsure. David Lammy? Please.
Not that I think the Tories are brimming with talent either, of course.
Good grief, Starmer hasn’t got much in the way of material, has he?
Quite how John thinks any of those he’s praised here are capable of making their departments better or delivering for people, I’m entirely unsure. David Lammy? Please.
Not that I think the Tories are brimming with talent either, of course.
McTernan – the ‘political strategist’ who lost Scotland.
McTernan – the ‘political strategist’ who lost Scotland.
So Mr McTernan was responsible for the destruction of this Country through Blair’s revolution.. Devolution, Supreme Court, BoE, Universities, and of course his ultimate achievement of setting up the Technocratic Blob which run this Country today, circumventing parliament and frustrating everything the meek and useless Tories do. How can he support David Lammy when the man believes we should all be doped up to the eyeballs with Cannabis which is a scourge on our society?
I am missing Diane Abbott
And … Lisa Nandy? Was she on a piece of paper that dropped off your table?
What a refreshing run through of most of Labour frontbench. Thank you UnHerd. I’m sure this has delighted many regulars.
Of course the contrast with the elitist, primarily private schooled, silver spooned, out of touch brigade opposite them in the Commons comes across too. Country needs to be run by people more like ourselves now and who’ve got where they are by talent and effort not pre-determined advantage. The socio-economic median of Labour bench, and many of the back stories to these frontbenchers, much more akin to where we are as a country and that’ll stand them in good stead.
Anyway I’m sure my 2nd para further delighted our regulars and may have generated a few coffee spluttering moments this morning.
Well, I for one welcome our new socialistical overlords, and I’m delighted at the prospect of being governed by David Lammy, Yvette Cooper, Ed Miliband and Angela Rayner. Cosmic (I say in my small Rodney voice).
I think you’re over-estimating yourself J.
Maybe, but garnered a decent number of votes before brunch-time. And I think downvotes count double.
Maybe, but garnered a decent number of votes before brunch-time. And I think downvotes count double.
The country needs to be run by competent, honest people who can actually do the job they’re paid to do and don’t get distracted by pressure groups, passing fads and gesture politics.
I don’t care what someone’s “back story” is if they’re not up to the job. Or are going to pursue destructive policies.
It’s just so Labour to prioritise appearance (back stories, “being representative”) over reality (competence).
Agree with the ‘competency’ point.
I think ‘back stories’ can make a difference to how people connect and understand what people are struggling with. Clearly if they are then incompetent that’s no use though. But an elite background coupled with incompetency, such as we’ve had with the Tories, pretty toxic for us all.
Agree with the ‘competency’ point.
I think ‘back stories’ can make a difference to how people connect and understand what people are struggling with. Clearly if they are then incompetent that’s no use though. But an elite background coupled with incompetency, such as we’ve had with the Tories, pretty toxic for us all.
Translation: yippee, up go the house prices, down go the wages, back come the planeloads of coffins. It’s New Labour all over again!
Well, I for one welcome our new socialistical overlords, and I’m delighted at the prospect of being governed by David Lammy, Yvette Cooper, Ed Miliband and Angela Rayner. Cosmic (I say in my small Rodney voice).
I think you’re over-estimating yourself J.
The country needs to be run by competent, honest people who can actually do the job they’re paid to do and don’t get distracted by pressure groups, passing fads and gesture politics.
I don’t care what someone’s “back story” is if they’re not up to the job. Or are going to pursue destructive policies.
It’s just so Labour to prioritise appearance (back stories, “being representative”) over reality (competence).
Translation: yippee, up go the house prices, down go the wages, back come the planeloads of coffins. It’s New Labour all over again!
What a refreshing run through of most of Labour frontbench. Thank you UnHerd. I’m sure this has delighted many regulars.
Of course the contrast with the elitist, primarily private schooled, silver spooned, out of touch brigade opposite them in the Commons comes across too. Country needs to be run by people more like ourselves now and who’ve got where they are by talent and effort not pre-determined advantage. The socio-economic median of Labour bench, and many of the back stories to these frontbenchers, much more akin to where we are as a country and that’ll stand them in good stead.
Anyway I’m sure my 2nd para further delighted our regulars and may have generated a few coffee spluttering moments this morning.
It’s fascinating how terrified the ‘free thinking’ Herd are of Labour. Perhaps it’s because they have so much time for thinking because they are loaded.
I’m more bemused than terrified (I’m not loaded either). I’m generally as scathing of the Tories, no UK political party has a monopoly on mediocrity these days. It’s fascinating how the left are so thin-skinned when it comes to criticism. And if you don’t think the average contemporary labourite isn’t loaded then you haven’t been paying attention – the entire BBC, civil service and business elite support them.
You’re really not trying to pretend that Labour are still the party of the people, surely? That ended when Blair became leader. All my neighbours are millionaires and they all vote Labour because they know Starmer will make them even richer – entirely at the expense of the working poor – just as Blair did.
Well, well Hugh Bryant – a privileged neighbourhood! Almost all my neighbours are immigrants from Eastern Europe. They’ll vote Labour because they imagine it furthers their interests – a moot point.
Incidentally, it’s surprising how many of those young men from the East look like clones of Volodymyr Zelenskyy.
Well, well Hugh Bryant – a privileged neighbourhood! Almost all my neighbours are immigrants from Eastern Europe. They’ll vote Labour because they imagine it furthers their interests – a moot point.
Incidentally, it’s surprising how many of those young men from the East look like clones of Volodymyr Zelenskyy.
I’m more bemused than terrified (I’m not loaded either). I’m generally as scathing of the Tories, no UK political party has a monopoly on mediocrity these days. It’s fascinating how the left are so thin-skinned when it comes to criticism. And if you don’t think the average contemporary labourite isn’t loaded then you haven’t been paying attention – the entire BBC, civil service and business elite support them.
You’re really not trying to pretend that Labour are still the party of the people, surely? That ended when Blair became leader. All my neighbours are millionaires and they all vote Labour because they know Starmer will make them even richer – entirely at the expense of the working poor – just as Blair did.
It’s fascinating how terrified the ‘free thinking’ Herd are of Labour. Perhaps it’s because they have so much time for thinking because they are loaded.