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Is Ron DeSantis the next Ted Cruz? Trump has rendered his style of politics obsolete

(GIORGIO VIERA/AFP via Getty Images)

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May 24, 2023   6 mins

Just a few months ago, Ron DeSantis held the Republican presidential nomination in his hands. The governor won re-election in Florida by a landslide in November and polling showed a nation-wide double-digit lead over Donald Trump. Since then, a jury in New York found Trump liable for sexual assault, while a different jury indicted him on more than 30 charges of fraud, tied to hush money paid to a porn star. Trump is 76, and DeSantis is 44. Never has a candidate enjoyed a greater head start than Ron DeSantis of Florida.

And yet… With DeSantis expected to launch his campaign this week, polls show Trump has opened up a 36-point advantage. His lead has evaporated, and his opponent gathers momentum by the day.

Spare a moment of pity for DeSantis’s poor historical timing. He faces an unprecedented opponent, a president twice impeached, who won a second nomination but lost re-election, and still enjoys the affection of millions of Republican voters. So, DeSantis finds himself stuck, forced to strike a balance between criticising Trump and avoiding the appearance of disloyalty. And while the currently unemployed Trump is free to campaign and raise funds around the country, DeSantis again must maintain a balance, positioning himself as a national candidate while still doing his job back home in Florida. That’s what led to scenes like the one in the state capital last week: Before a cheering crowd DeSantis signed a series of sweeping, headline-grabbing bills sure to appeal to a national conservative audience — a ban on transgender care for children, a ban on drag shows — and afterwards, like a celebrating pop star, he tossed Sharpie markers into the crowd.

This balancing act between local and national, responsibility and ambition, doesn’t always win adoration, though. It led DeSantis to pick a fight with one of the most powerful entities in his state: Disney. The feud started a year ago, when DeSantis signed the “Don’t Say Gay” bill, which restricts the teaching of gender identity to young students. It was an “anti-woke” signal to conservatives across the country. Disney objected. DeSantis responded by trying to seize a special tax district that gives Disney a measure of autonomy. And last Thursday, Disney returned a thunderous salvo, cancelling a billion-dollar expansion plan that would have brought 2,000 jobs to Florida. The move shook other business leaders — and political donors — and called into question DeSantis’s ability to navigate tricky political terrain. While Trump has struggled to pin one of his famously pithy nicknames on his opponent, the six-syllable “DeSanctimonious”, DeSantis seems to have earned one on his own; the day Disney cancelled its big Florida plans, “DeSatan” trended across US social media.

In Florida, the editorial board of the Orlando newspaper seemed grief-stricken by Disney’s withdrawal: “All gone,” it wrote. “All sacrificed on the altar of one man’s outsized ambition and arrogance.” The Trump campaign took notice, and hurried to release a statement: “Ron DeSantis’ failed war on Disney has done little for his limping shadow campaign and now is doing even less for Florida’s economy.”

DeSantis’s trip to Iowa was illustrative of the difficult line he is trying to tread. During a pair of speeches, he delivered largely rote remarks, rehashing points from his book The Courage to Be Free, staking out a series of anti-woke positions within the current American culture war while also trying to leave himself room to manoeuvre in a broader general election. “As much as I wish that a majority of this country were Republicans, that is not the case,” he told the crowd. “So, you want to win the Republicans, of course, but you also gotta win independents.”

The modern moment, though, belongs to Trump. While DeSantis attempts to build a campaign framework of policies and principles and positions, Trump operates in a field of personality and identity. While DeSantis delivered stump speeches in Iowa, the rest of the nation discussed Trump’s incendiary town hall interview on CNN, where he aired political grievances and fired up an adoring crowd. He senses DeSantis’s hesitancy. “He’s got no personality,” he told The Messenger. “And I don’t think he’s got a lot of political skill.”

With days remaining before his official entry into the presidential race, DeSantis finds himself unable to openly criticise the popular ex-president, and instead must describe himself as continuing the Trump legacy without the messiness of Trump the man. Just as conservative. Just as tough. But a lot less lunatic. DeSantis uses this contrast to make implicit swipes at Trump: “There’s no drama in our administration,” he said in March. “There’s no palace intrigue.”

It’s the sort of stance that appeals to moderates and soothes donors. And again, a brilliant tactic from 2016. The trouble is that since then the road to the White House has been littered with the bodies of Trump’s more-sane opponents: Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio, Mitt Romney, on and on. Of them, DeSantis seems to be modelling himself on Ted Cruz, who in 2016 used a Trump-lite strategy to win the primary in Iowa — and who then suffered withering humiliation from full-strength Trump, until nothing remained of his campaign but ashes and apologies.

DeSantis is stepping into the same trap. After Trump’s town hall meeting on CNN, the pro-DeSantis political action committee Never Back Down posted a tweet that would, in Trumpian terms, seem downright polite. But at least it called out Trump’s false claims about rigged elections, his sexual assault case, and his role in January 6, landing on the less-than-inflammatory line, “How does this Make America Great Again?”

When Trump’s allies reacted with outrage, the group — incredibly, considering its only reason for existing — retreated. “That post was a massive mistake,” said one DeSantis ally, inadvertently revealing the power Trump holds over the Republican Party: even his most formidable opponent shies away from any substantial criticism. In the meantime, Trump feels no such compunction. It doesn’t matter that much of Trump’s mockery targets DeSantis’s positions that Trump recently held himself, such as a national sales tax or raising the retirement age to 70.

Trump isn’t DeSantis’s only obstacle, of course. Democrats and allies have already begun to attack. On Saturday the NAACP, the oldest civil rights organisation in America, issued a travel warning for the state of Florida, saying in a statement: “Before traveling to Florida, please understand that the state of Florida devalues and marginalizes the contributions of, and the challenges faced by African Americans and other communities of color.”

But DeSantis’s most immediate challenges will come from other Republicans, who will use him as a shield to absorb Trump’s blows, and pummel him with their own. There will be many, but a few are notable: Tim Scott, a senator from South Carolina; Nikki Haley, former governor of South Carolina and Trump’s ambassador to the United Nations; Will Hurd, a former CIA officer and representative from Texas; Vivek Ramaswamy, a biotech mogul from Ohio; and of course Mike Pence, Trump’s longsuffering vice president. Each of these will intrigue voters in different ways, and their rise gives an indication of where the Republican Party is leaning. Scott is black, Hurd’s father is black, Haley and Ramaswamy are Indian-American. Conservative donors recognise that an anti-woke argument carries extra weight coming from a non-white candidate.

All of these Republican opponents will fail, however. Under Trump, much of the Republican Party has evolved from a traditional political organisation to become an identity movement centered on Trump as a personality; even after all his misdeeds, he holds a lock on more than two thirds of GOP voters. They won’t be dislodged, which means that the vast cast of Republican hopefuls will fight over the scraps. The only candidate with any hope of overthrowing him is DeSantis, who seems to be stumbling around the paddock on his way to the race.

Here again, though, his recent visit to Iowa offers some interesting clues as to a potential path to victory. The trip offered a showdown, of sorts, because Trump planned to visit Iowa at the same time. Which candidate would make a better speech? Which would draw bigger crowds?

But it never came to be. After a severe weather forecast Trump cancelled his appearance. The bad weather never materialised, though, and Iowans whispered that maybe Trump wanted to avoid the embarrassment of a small crowd. So, at the last moment, DeSantis re-directed his campaign caravan from the eastern edge of Iowa to the central state capital, Des Moines. He attended an outdoor barbecue party just a short distance from the site of Trump’s scheduled appearance, making a show of enjoying the weather. He spent time with influential Iowan politicians and activists, and political reporters left with spare time after Trump’s cancellation and — for a moment — seized the national conversation.

It was an impressive feat of logistics. More than that, though, it showed a nimbleness of mind and willingness by DeSantis to jab Trump in a way that diminishes him without alienating his legions of supporters.

But the forces arrayed against DeSantis are many, and powerful. He faces angry locals, upset about his handling of the Disney affair. Democratic foes across the country see him as a slicker, and in some ways more dangerous, version of Trump. His fellow Republicans paint him as a weaker, water-coloured variant. But perhaps his most powerful opponent is circumstance itself. Trump is a world-historic figure. He punches low and hard. He and his proxies have excoriated DeSantis, spending $8 million in April alone to call him names like “Pudding Fingers” and “Ron DeSalesTax”.

DeSantis’s methods seem outmoded in response. He apparently hopes to tiptoe through a primary while preserving hopes for a broader constituency in the general election. It is a strategy born of blissful ignorance: Trump has rendered that entire style of politics obsolete.


Matthew Teague is a journalist and co-author of The Steal.

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T Bone
T Bone
1 year ago

I’m sorry Matt but “The Narrative” is getting a bit tired. Everybody understands the Script here. The Establishment fears DeSantis more than Trump so it will use Media Narrators to repeat a Script throughout the Media about DeSantis alleged downward trajectory. DeSantis is “lacking charisma” or “losing to Disney” or “imposing a Don’t Say Gay Law” or “Banning Books.”

Nobody with a pulse believes this. DeSantis lacks Charisma compared to who? Biden, Harris, Buttiegeig. Really? So Disney decided not to move one project out of California and this is considered a win for King Gavin and an L for DeSantis? That for once somebody didn’t flee California for Florida. Just retaining present business is now a W. That’s how lopsided this game has become.

We get it. You want Trump to win the primary and will pump him up in the primary, just to tear him down in the general. In the meantime RFK Jr will be labeled a fringe “extremist” next to the the highly competent and inspirational President, Joseph R Biden who I think we all can safely assume you actually plan to promote.

The reality is that the overwhelming majority of Trump voters like DeSantis and vice versa and will DEFINITELY vote for whichever candidate is the nominee. It is interesting that the Party deemed a “Threat to Democracy” is the only party participating in Democracy. But then again its possible our Progressive friends have a concocted a new, more enlightened and inclusive form of “Democracy” that nobody has heard about yet. The March of Progress continues!

J Bryant
J Bryant
1 year ago
Reply to  T Bone

And here’s my contribution to the wide, wide world of conspiracy theories: I tried to upvote your comment but the system won’t let me. Those darned Biden operatives!

Peter Joy
Peter Joy
1 year ago
Reply to  J Bryant

Judging by the respective vote-counts, you seem to be part of a very small minority in your extremist pro-regime views.

Peter Joy
Peter Joy
1 year ago
Reply to  J Bryant

Judging by the respective vote-counts, you seem to be part of a very small minority in your extremist pro-regime views.

Matt Hindman
Matt Hindman
1 year ago
Reply to  T Bone

“The Establishment fears DeSantis more than Trump.” Do you ever read what they write? The reason I have become skeptical of DeSantis of late is because they have decided to go all in on him and with his quick backing down on his Ukraine position, I am not sure he can stand up to them. Seriously, National Review and The Bulwark are 24/7 “DeSantis good, Trump bad”. Then they will occasionally let slip that what they really want is to destroy populism and take us back the Bush/Romney days. I’m not writing him off, but he needs to make the case to voters that he is more in line with them than the Republican donor class. If he does not, than he will be just another Jeb.

Martin Layfield
Martin Layfield
1 year ago
Reply to  Matt Hindman

Agreed. I suppose all these billionaires giving money to Desantis might be some 4D establishment chess where they hope to discredit Desantis by association with such elites but I think it’s a bit of a stretch.

Stuart Rose
Stuart Rose
1 year ago

I think what Matt meant is that people like William Kristin, the Bulwark crowd hope to defeat Trump now and, as a consequence, take the air out of the sails of populism. They’re willing to put up with DeSantis populist talk if he can defeat Trump. Their long -term goal is a return to Romney-ish days.

Stuart Rose
Stuart Rose
1 year ago

I think what Matt meant is that people like William Kristin, the Bulwark crowd hope to defeat Trump now and, as a consequence, take the air out of the sails of populism. They’re willing to put up with DeSantis populist talk if he can defeat Trump. Their long -term goal is a return to Romney-ish days.

Caty Gonzales
Caty Gonzales
1 year ago
Reply to  Matt Hindman

I think his record in Florida counters that. He has been a highly successful governor and passed multiple pieces of legislation, in education especially, which shows he is serious about addressing the rot in institutions.
I think a DeSantis/Scott ticket would be excellent.
The worry with DeSantis is that might be a Scott Walker redo. I hope not. I will look forward to checking out the interview with Musk tonight.

Brian Villanueva
Brian Villanueva
1 year ago
Reply to  Matt Hindman

DeSantis is right though, to win the White House one must be able to win independents. Can Trump do that? Just ask yourself how many normie, mostly apolitical, folks who voted against Trump in 2020 would be willing to change their mind about him?
Maybe DeSantis is a wolf in sheep’s clothing. But I doubt it. And let’s face it, it takes a $B to run for President now, so the fact that the wealthy GOPers are opening their wallets is a good thing. They’re not suddenly populists, but they do want to win.

Last edited 1 year ago by Brian Villanueva
James Stangl
James Stangl
1 year ago

Does Trump have more “charisma,” if you want to call it that? Yes, but unless you subscribe uncritically to the “steal” narrative, he lost to a cognitively-impaired guy campaigning from his rumpus room in 2020, and his proxies underperformed in 2022.

Trump was a political unknown in 2016. He’s got oodles of baggage and ongoing legal problems now. Republicans need candidates who can be post-Trump, and channel a lot of the useful aspects of his populism more effectively and intelligently.

Oh, and the author’s use of the Left’s “Don’t Say Gay” meme says a lot about where he’s coming from.

Matt Hindman
Matt Hindman
1 year ago
Reply to  James Stangl

Absolutely they need candidates who can channel a lot of the useful aspects of his populism more effectively and intelligently. The problem is that is not what seems to be happening. The GOP establishment and donor class are dead set on returning to the neoconservatism of the Regan/Bush/Romney era. I.E. how we got Trump in the first place. Look I would be happy to vote for Brian Kemp or J.D. Vance for president but they are not running. If DeSantis wants to be the guy to move the party forward and not be just another Jeb Bush or Marco Rubio, then he needs to convince the actual voters that is the case. The electability argument also runs into problems because Trump defied the odds one time, lost by only around 30k votes the second time, and McCain and Romney were basically sold on the electability argument and got trounced. What I am trying to say is Ron DeSantis needs to get up on stage and sell people that he really will be different, not just another reason why people went for Trump in the first place.

James Stangl
James Stangl
1 year ago
Reply to  Matt Hindman

I don’t disagree with you on the desire of the GOP neocons and elites wanting to return to the past, or that they love “squish” candidates like Mitt or Jeb who can be counted on to cater to their policy preferences (and lose gracefully).

I just don’t think that Trump has the unknown quantity status that helped him in 2016, and I think that the Dems have the ability to tie him up in so much legal dreck that he won’t be able to campaign as effectively, and will turn off people who might have considered him. Yes, DeSantis needs to convince enough Trumpers and independents that he is a credible alternative. But he doesn’t have Trump’s baggage, and seems to have done a pretty convincing job in FL that he supports conservative values AND can win.

James Stangl
James Stangl
1 year ago
Reply to  Matt Hindman

I don’t disagree with you on the desire of the GOP neocons and elites wanting to return to the past, or that they love “squish” candidates like Mitt or Jeb who can be counted on to cater to their policy preferences (and lose gracefully).

I just don’t think that Trump has the unknown quantity status that helped him in 2016, and I think that the Dems have the ability to tie him up in so much legal dreck that he won’t be able to campaign as effectively, and will turn off people who might have considered him. Yes, DeSantis needs to convince enough Trumpers and independents that he is a credible alternative. But he doesn’t have Trump’s baggage, and seems to have done a pretty convincing job in FL that he supports conservative values AND can win.

Stuart Rose
Stuart Rose
1 year ago
Reply to  James Stangl

Yes, James, it was irritating and revealing to see how he referred to the law in Florida as if that’s the plain, unprejudiced way of calling it.

Matt Hindman
Matt Hindman
1 year ago
Reply to  James Stangl

Absolutely they need candidates who can channel a lot of the useful aspects of his populism more effectively and intelligently. The problem is that is not what seems to be happening. The GOP establishment and donor class are dead set on returning to the neoconservatism of the Regan/Bush/Romney era. I.E. how we got Trump in the first place. Look I would be happy to vote for Brian Kemp or J.D. Vance for president but they are not running. If DeSantis wants to be the guy to move the party forward and not be just another Jeb Bush or Marco Rubio, then he needs to convince the actual voters that is the case. The electability argument also runs into problems because Trump defied the odds one time, lost by only around 30k votes the second time, and McCain and Romney were basically sold on the electability argument and got trounced. What I am trying to say is Ron DeSantis needs to get up on stage and sell people that he really will be different, not just another reason why people went for Trump in the first place.

Stuart Rose
Stuart Rose
1 year ago
Reply to  James Stangl

Yes, James, it was irritating and revealing to see how he referred to the law in Florida as if that’s the plain, unprejudiced way of calling it.

James Stangl
James Stangl
1 year ago

Does Trump have more “charisma,” if you want to call it that? Yes, but unless you subscribe uncritically to the “steal” narrative, he lost to a cognitively-impaired guy campaigning from his rumpus room in 2020, and his proxies underperformed in 2022.

Trump was a political unknown in 2016. He’s got oodles of baggage and ongoing legal problems now. Republicans need candidates who can be post-Trump, and channel a lot of the useful aspects of his populism more effectively and intelligently.

Oh, and the author’s use of the Left’s “Don’t Say Gay” meme says a lot about where he’s coming from.

T Bone
T Bone
1 year ago
Reply to  Matt Hindman

I think there is a tendency to conflate “Civic Manners” with Establishment. In an ordinary environment one could forgive NR for standing on Principle instead of Utilitarian Pragmatism. They don’t like the “Win at all Costs” Machiavelian tendencies of Trump or the Idea that it’s OK to behave badly because the other side is doing it.

Ultimately you want somebody that can create a stable environment. Trump is a Bull in a China Shop. It’s not irrational to consider him destructive. But so are the forces he’s up against. In the event of two destructive forces, I will take the more competent of the two. Trump is excellent on Foreign Policy and I think even most Liberals would begrudgingly acknowledge that if pressed.

American elections are Binary decisions so while I think it’s silly that NR doesn’t pick the Lesser of Two Evils, I don’t see them as “controlled opposition.” I agree with you that that the Romney/Bush “Republicans” are not worth courting but I don’t see those people running to DeSantis. I see DeSantis just picking up traditional well-mannered conservatives that were simply repulsed by Trump’s destructive tendencies.

Last edited 1 year ago by T Bone
Martin Layfield
Martin Layfield
1 year ago
Reply to  Matt Hindman

Agreed. I suppose all these billionaires giving money to Desantis might be some 4D establishment chess where they hope to discredit Desantis by association with such elites but I think it’s a bit of a stretch.

Caty Gonzales
Caty Gonzales
1 year ago
Reply to  Matt Hindman

I think his record in Florida counters that. He has been a highly successful governor and passed multiple pieces of legislation, in education especially, which shows he is serious about addressing the rot in institutions.
I think a DeSantis/Scott ticket would be excellent.
The worry with DeSantis is that might be a Scott Walker redo. I hope not. I will look forward to checking out the interview with Musk tonight.

Brian Villanueva
Brian Villanueva
1 year ago
Reply to  Matt Hindman

DeSantis is right though, to win the White House one must be able to win independents. Can Trump do that? Just ask yourself how many normie, mostly apolitical, folks who voted against Trump in 2020 would be willing to change their mind about him?
Maybe DeSantis is a wolf in sheep’s clothing. But I doubt it. And let’s face it, it takes a $B to run for President now, so the fact that the wealthy GOPers are opening their wallets is a good thing. They’re not suddenly populists, but they do want to win.

Last edited 1 year ago by Brian Villanueva
T Bone
T Bone
1 year ago
Reply to  Matt Hindman

I think there is a tendency to conflate “Civic Manners” with Establishment. In an ordinary environment one could forgive NR for standing on Principle instead of Utilitarian Pragmatism. They don’t like the “Win at all Costs” Machiavelian tendencies of Trump or the Idea that it’s OK to behave badly because the other side is doing it.

Ultimately you want somebody that can create a stable environment. Trump is a Bull in a China Shop. It’s not irrational to consider him destructive. But so are the forces he’s up against. In the event of two destructive forces, I will take the more competent of the two. Trump is excellent on Foreign Policy and I think even most Liberals would begrudgingly acknowledge that if pressed.

American elections are Binary decisions so while I think it’s silly that NR doesn’t pick the Lesser of Two Evils, I don’t see them as “controlled opposition.” I agree with you that that the Romney/Bush “Republicans” are not worth courting but I don’t see those people running to DeSantis. I see DeSantis just picking up traditional well-mannered conservatives that were simply repulsed by Trump’s destructive tendencies.

Last edited 1 year ago by T Bone
Stephen Quilley
Stephen Quilley
1 year ago
Reply to  T Bone

yes

J Bryant
J Bryant
1 year ago
Reply to  T Bone

And here’s my contribution to the wide, wide world of conspiracy theories: I tried to upvote your comment but the system won’t let me. Those darned Biden operatives!

Matt Hindman
Matt Hindman
1 year ago
Reply to  T Bone

“The Establishment fears DeSantis more than Trump.” Do you ever read what they write? The reason I have become skeptical of DeSantis of late is because they have decided to go all in on him and with his quick backing down on his Ukraine position, I am not sure he can stand up to them. Seriously, National Review and The Bulwark are 24/7 “DeSantis good, Trump bad”. Then they will occasionally let slip that what they really want is to destroy populism and take us back the Bush/Romney days. I’m not writing him off, but he needs to make the case to voters that he is more in line with them than the Republican donor class. If he does not, than he will be just another Jeb.

Stephen Quilley
Stephen Quilley
1 year ago
Reply to  T Bone

yes

T Bone
T Bone
1 year ago

I’m sorry Matt but “The Narrative” is getting a bit tired. Everybody understands the Script here. The Establishment fears DeSantis more than Trump so it will use Media Narrators to repeat a Script throughout the Media about DeSantis alleged downward trajectory. DeSantis is “lacking charisma” or “losing to Disney” or “imposing a Don’t Say Gay Law” or “Banning Books.”

Nobody with a pulse believes this. DeSantis lacks Charisma compared to who? Biden, Harris, Buttiegeig. Really? So Disney decided not to move one project out of California and this is considered a win for King Gavin and an L for DeSantis? That for once somebody didn’t flee California for Florida. Just retaining present business is now a W. That’s how lopsided this game has become.

We get it. You want Trump to win the primary and will pump him up in the primary, just to tear him down in the general. In the meantime RFK Jr will be labeled a fringe “extremist” next to the the highly competent and inspirational President, Joseph R Biden who I think we all can safely assume you actually plan to promote.

The reality is that the overwhelming majority of Trump voters like DeSantis and vice versa and will DEFINITELY vote for whichever candidate is the nominee. It is interesting that the Party deemed a “Threat to Democracy” is the only party participating in Democracy. But then again its possible our Progressive friends have a concocted a new, more enlightened and inclusive form of “Democracy” that nobody has heard about yet. The March of Progress continues!

Matt M
Matt M
1 year ago

As a foreigner and not being plugged in to the US media 24/7 my opinion is doesn’t carry much weight but from what I have seen DeSantis is ten times more charismatic and innovative than Ted Cruz, Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio or Mitt Romney. He avoided lockdowns, he deported those illegal immigrants to Martha’s Vineyard, he took a good punch at Disney for espousing radical leftist ideas. The list goes on.
Whether or not that is enough to get he nomination is another question.

Last edited 1 year ago by Matt M
Matt M
Matt M
1 year ago

As a foreigner and not being plugged in to the US media 24/7 my opinion is doesn’t carry much weight but from what I have seen DeSantis is ten times more charismatic and innovative than Ted Cruz, Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio or Mitt Romney. He avoided lockdowns, he deported those illegal immigrants to Martha’s Vineyard, he took a good punch at Disney for espousing radical leftist ideas. The list goes on.
Whether or not that is enough to get he nomination is another question.

Last edited 1 year ago by Matt M
Jim Veenbaas
Jim Veenbaas
1 year ago

Ugh. Cringeworthy essay. Why would the author call it the Don’t Say Gay bill? Everyone at this site knows it’s the Parental Rights bill. And don’t gas light us with the Disney shutting down construction projects because they don’t like DeSantis. You might want to put it in context – they’re afraid it will lose money.

I like DeSantis, but I’m disappointed he’s pandering to the evangelical right. Florida had a reasonable 15-week abortion law that the vast majority of people would support. He’s now reduced it to six weeks. I’m glad he’s pushing back against woke, but now he’s expanded the Parental Rights law to all grades, which is pandering IMO.

Despite my own reservations about Desantis, I don’t like the tone of this essay. If I had a choice, Vivek Ramaswamy would be the next leader of the GOP.

Jim Veenbaas
Jim Veenbaas
1 year ago

Ugh. Cringeworthy essay. Why would the author call it the Don’t Say Gay bill? Everyone at this site knows it’s the Parental Rights bill. And don’t gas light us with the Disney shutting down construction projects because they don’t like DeSantis. You might want to put it in context – they’re afraid it will lose money.

I like DeSantis, but I’m disappointed he’s pandering to the evangelical right. Florida had a reasonable 15-week abortion law that the vast majority of people would support. He’s now reduced it to six weeks. I’m glad he’s pushing back against woke, but now he’s expanded the Parental Rights law to all grades, which is pandering IMO.

Despite my own reservations about Desantis, I don’t like the tone of this essay. If I had a choice, Vivek Ramaswamy would be the next leader of the GOP.

N T
N T
1 year ago

OMG that was dumb.
Pressed for a word count, Teague tapes together a string of whatever he can find, and comes up empty.
I’m only going to discuss two, just as examples:
NAACP: Who cares? Do you think that will have any impact on anything? Where does the NAACP’s president live? Oh, right. Tampa. Where is all the crime against the fringe groups he is complaining about? Not Florida.
Disney: Not only did Disney start the fight, but then Bob Iger doubled-down on a gigantic bluff that was almost immediately countered by his own personnel. The billion-dollar project, also known as Lake Nona? It was never going to happen, once Mr. Iger’s successor and then predecessor, Bob Chapek, the architect of that project, was fired.
Yes, Desantis probably blew it, but at least in the various prediction and betting markets, he was never in the lead. This was always Trump’s race to lose, even though there was a time that many of us were rooting for Desantis.

N T
N T
1 year ago

OMG that was dumb.
Pressed for a word count, Teague tapes together a string of whatever he can find, and comes up empty.
I’m only going to discuss two, just as examples:
NAACP: Who cares? Do you think that will have any impact on anything? Where does the NAACP’s president live? Oh, right. Tampa. Where is all the crime against the fringe groups he is complaining about? Not Florida.
Disney: Not only did Disney start the fight, but then Bob Iger doubled-down on a gigantic bluff that was almost immediately countered by his own personnel. The billion-dollar project, also known as Lake Nona? It was never going to happen, once Mr. Iger’s successor and then predecessor, Bob Chapek, the architect of that project, was fired.
Yes, Desantis probably blew it, but at least in the various prediction and betting markets, he was never in the lead. This was always Trump’s race to lose, even though there was a time that many of us were rooting for Desantis.

DA Johnson
DA Johnson
1 year ago

Matthew Teague fails to note that Disney is having financial problems that have nothing to do with Ron DeSantis: its streaming service incurred losses of $1.5 billion in the third quarter of 2022, after which its share price began plummeting. CEO Bob Inger stated in February that around 7000 staff will be laid off this year in an effort to help save $5.5 billion, and the stock price has fallen by 7.9% in just this month. 
Yet Mr. Teague uncritically presents Disney’s cancellation of the Lake Nona project and the “2000” jobs it would bring to Florida as a result of Ron DeSantis’ stance—which no doubt is the way Disney wants it to be seen. But the reality is that by cancelling an expensive project out of financial necessity, Disney not only saves money but is able to score a sweet public relations hit against DeSantis.

Peter Joy
Peter Joy
1 year ago
Reply to  DA Johnson

‘A sweet public relations hit against DeSantis’? Only thanks to lazy left-liberal hacks like Teague here rebroadcasting their lies for them.

Peter Joy
Peter Joy
1 year ago
Reply to  DA Johnson

‘A sweet public relations hit against DeSantis’? Only thanks to lazy left-liberal hacks like Teague here rebroadcasting their lies for them.

DA Johnson
DA Johnson
1 year ago

Matthew Teague fails to note that Disney is having financial problems that have nothing to do with Ron DeSantis: its streaming service incurred losses of $1.5 billion in the third quarter of 2022, after which its share price began plummeting. CEO Bob Inger stated in February that around 7000 staff will be laid off this year in an effort to help save $5.5 billion, and the stock price has fallen by 7.9% in just this month. 
Yet Mr. Teague uncritically presents Disney’s cancellation of the Lake Nona project and the “2000” jobs it would bring to Florida as a result of Ron DeSantis’ stance—which no doubt is the way Disney wants it to be seen. But the reality is that by cancelling an expensive project out of financial necessity, Disney not only saves money but is able to score a sweet public relations hit against DeSantis.

Katharine Eyre
Katharine Eyre
1 year ago

Whichever GOP candidate succeeds and whoever wins the presidential race next year, one phrase always springs to my mind:
Every country gets the leadership it deserves.

Peter Joy
Peter Joy
1 year ago
Reply to  Katharine Eyre

And did Russia ‘deserve’ Stalin? Did China ‘deserve’ Mao’? Did Scotland ‘deserve’ Sturgeon? Romania, Cuaecescu?
Good grief….

Peter Joy
Peter Joy
1 year ago
Reply to  Katharine Eyre

And did Russia ‘deserve’ Stalin? Did China ‘deserve’ Mao’? Did Scotland ‘deserve’ Sturgeon? Romania, Cuaecescu?
Good grief….

Katharine Eyre
Katharine Eyre
1 year ago

Whichever GOP candidate succeeds and whoever wins the presidential race next year, one phrase always springs to my mind:
Every country gets the leadership it deserves.

UnHerd Reader
UnHerd Reader
1 year ago

Why read on after the first sentence? “Just a few months ago, Ron DeSantis held the Republican presidential nomination in his hands”
Breathtakingly wrong – did anyone at all in the USA think this?
Completely hopeless analysis.

Peter Joy
Peter Joy
1 year ago
Reply to  UnHerd Reader

Sack him. Kick him off the site. Never commission him again.

Peter Joy
Peter Joy
1 year ago
Reply to  UnHerd Reader

Sack him. Kick him off the site. Never commission him again.

UnHerd Reader
UnHerd Reader
1 year ago

Why read on after the first sentence? “Just a few months ago, Ron DeSantis held the Republican presidential nomination in his hands”
Breathtakingly wrong – did anyone at all in the USA think this?
Completely hopeless analysis.

Jeff Butcher
Jeff Butcher
1 year ago

‘Conservative donors recognise that an anti-woke argument carries extra weight coming from a non-white candidate.’

Herein lies much of the problem, it seems to me – and not just in the US but also here in the UK.

It’s the donors and lobbyists who are really voting – you just get to choose whichever one of THEM has already been selected, but by then you’ve already been shafted.

Jeff Butcher
Jeff Butcher
1 year ago

‘Conservative donors recognise that an anti-woke argument carries extra weight coming from a non-white candidate.’

Herein lies much of the problem, it seems to me – and not just in the US but also here in the UK.

It’s the donors and lobbyists who are really voting – you just get to choose whichever one of THEM has already been selected, but by then you’ve already been shafted.

Mike Doyle
Mike Doyle
1 year ago

Perhaps a ‘Mouse Un-American Activities Committee’?

Mike Doyle
Mike Doyle
1 year ago

Perhaps a ‘Mouse Un-American Activities Committee’?

Johann Strauss
Johann Strauss
1 year ago

It seems to me that at this stage of the game it is far too early to know what will happen come primary season next year. The 30 point lead that Trump currently holds over de Santis could evaporate in an instant as de Santis gains more recognition outside of Florida. Plus, who knows how reliable the current polling even is.

Johann Strauss
Johann Strauss
1 year ago

It seems to me that at this stage of the game it is far too early to know what will happen come primary season next year. The 30 point lead that Trump currently holds over de Santis could evaporate in an instant as de Santis gains more recognition outside of Florida. Plus, who knows how reliable the current polling even is.

D Walsh
D Walsh
1 year ago

It looks to be that Teflon Don will win the nomination, the dogs bark but the circus rolls on

D Walsh
D Walsh
1 year ago

It looks to be that Teflon Don will win the nomination, the dogs bark but the circus rolls on

Nathan Ngumi
Nathan Ngumi
1 year ago

It is a toss up. Trump could be derailed by any of the multiple indictments and court cases coming down the pike, which would be most fortuitous for DeSantis.
Unfortunately Trump still has a centrifugal pull on a large chunk of the Right which is a problem for any challenger.

Peter Joy
Peter Joy
1 year ago
Reply to  Nathan Ngumi

I doubt that. If the Biden junta has him jailed for 400 years, it will only increase Trump’s popularity.

Peter Joy
Peter Joy
1 year ago
Reply to  Nathan Ngumi

I doubt that. If the Biden junta has him jailed for 400 years, it will only increase Trump’s popularity.

Nathan Ngumi
Nathan Ngumi
1 year ago

It is a toss up. Trump could be derailed by any of the multiple indictments and court cases coming down the pike, which would be most fortuitous for DeSantis.
Unfortunately Trump still has a centrifugal pull on a large chunk of the Right which is a problem for any challenger.

Amy Horseman
Amy Horseman
1 year ago

What a very lazy essay, churning out tropes and pandering to “woke” propaganda. In places, downright false. Disappointed that this was the best Unherd could do on this – to be fair, only mildly interesting – topic. I’m beginning to come here more for the comments than the articles. Unherd readers are – for the most part – an interesting, intellectual and savvy bunch. We should have a new feature… a weekly opinion essay written by a reader!

Amy Horseman
Amy Horseman
1 year ago

What a very lazy essay, churning out tropes and pandering to “woke” propaganda. In places, downright false. Disappointed that this was the best Unherd could do on this – to be fair, only mildly interesting – topic. I’m beginning to come here more for the comments than the articles. Unherd readers are – for the most part – an interesting, intellectual and savvy bunch. We should have a new feature… a weekly opinion essay written by a reader!

Steve White
Steve White
1 year ago

DeSantis is a product built by the uniparty. Notice his flip flop on Ukraine. They straightened him out on that, and he got in line quickly. He is not principled.

Steve White
Steve White
1 year ago

DeSantis is a product built by the uniparty. Notice his flip flop on Ukraine. They straightened him out on that, and he got in line quickly. He is not principled.

Peter Joy
Peter Joy
1 year ago

‘…even after all his misdeeds…’
What misdeeds would those be, exactly? Does Mr Teague mistake the BBC, CNN and MSNBC for truth, or the actions of the Justice (sic) Department as honest?
Ye Gods!

Walter Schwager
Walter Schwager
1 year ago

For us Liberals the most amusing spectacle is to see a fight between the two most prominent and popular Republican presidential candidates. We won’t have to attack RD, Donald will do that with unparalleled enthusiasm and eviscerate him. Highly amusing and politically profitable to see Republican fratricide turn into a blood sport. And all those Republicans claiming that all is well, we all love both Don and Ron, are missing the messianistic dedication of true Trump devotees. Let the bloodbath begin!

Peter Joy
Peter Joy
1 year ago

Are you looking forward to the vigorous Primaries between the nimble and eloquent Bidenescu and his new rival Senator Kennedy?
Or has Debbie Wasserman-Scultz already fixed them in ‘the Big Guy’s’ favour? Well, if RFK’s looking like too much of a threat, I guess the DNC can tell the CIA to kill him, like they did his father and uncle. Hey, and they can blame the hit on a ‘MAGA extremist’ too: win-win!

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Peter Joy
Peter Joy
1 year ago

Are you looking forward to the vigorous Primaries between the nimble and eloquent Bidenescu and his new rival Senator Kennedy?
Or has Debbie Wasserman-Scultz already fixed them in ‘the Big Guy’s’ favour? Well, if RFK’s looking like too much of a threat, I guess the DNC can tell the CIA to kill him, like they did his father and uncle. Hey, and they can blame the hit on a ‘MAGA extremist’ too: win-win!

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Walter Schwager
Walter Schwager
1 year ago

For us Liberals the most amusing spectacle is to see a fight between the two most prominent and popular Republican presidential candidates. We won’t have to attack RD, Donald will do that with unparalleled enthusiasm and eviscerate him. Highly amusing and politically profitable to see Republican fratricide turn into a blood sport. And all those Republicans claiming that all is well, we all love both Don and Ron, are missing the messianistic dedication of true Trump devotees. Let the bloodbath begin!