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Liberals have a fetish problem There's nothing sexy about castration

So brave. (Patrick Lux/Getty Images)

So brave. (Patrick Lux/Getty Images)


September 22, 2022   6 mins

Under what conditions should a person be free to indulge his sexual fetishes in public? This question was brought into stark relief last week at a school in Ontario, where the attire of a male teacher now identifying as a woman raised a new version of the old question “how many grains of sand make a heap?”: How many cup sizes make a pair of prosthetic breasts wildly inappropriate? Like the existence of the heap, at a certain relatively advanced size the inappropriateness seems blindingly obvious — but it’s hard to say exactly at what point this began.

Responding to its critics, Oakville Trafalgar High School has suggested that its teacher’s attire fell under the protected characteristics of gender identity and gender expression enshrined in Canadian law. It’s a similar argument to the one wheeled out a few days earlier to defend another sexual fetish being assimilated into the LGBTQI+ rainbow — this time by the World Professional Association for Trans Health (WPATH) in its new medical guidelines, widely considered as the gold standard in trans healthcare.

There are several striking things about WPATH’s latest edition — not least the absence of stated minimum ages for surgical interventions on dysphoric minors. But for our purposes, I draw your attention to the chapter on eunuchs. Against initial appearances, this isn’t a chapter on how best to look after someone who has suffered an unfortunate loss in the tackle department. No — being a eunuch is now presented as a state of mind, irrespective of physical state. More specifically, it’s an unfairly stigmatised “gender identity” that in certain circumstances may require supervised surgical correction to mould outer flesh to inner fantasy. Just as our buxom Canadian is supposed to be a woman just because she feels like one, according to WPATH, if you lie in bed at night longing for castration, then you are already a eunuch — and a particularly vulnerable and stigmatised member of society because of it.

To establish the extent of the phenomenon, WPATH points us towards The Eunuch Archive, a web forum with more than 130,000, er, members, and many more unregistered guests. What their chapter conspicuously doesn’t say is that longing for castration is at least in many cases a fetish, something that is abundantly clear if you have the stomach to browse the “fiction section” of The Eunuch Archive. For some men with this fetish, the ultimate arousal — quite literally, one assumes — is to go under the knife. (WPATH notes that “many former Eunuch Archive members have achieved their goals and no longer participate”.)

When first popularised in the 18th century by thinkers such as Hegel, the original concept of a fetish referred to an object from a primitive religion, thought to be imbued with supernatural or magical powers. So perhaps it makes sense that, in the quasi-religious world of contemporary LGBT activism — with its incantations, sacred texts, priests, and magic potions — sexual fetishes should eventually find political protection.

Whatever the case, there are many who think this is all the fault of “the libs”.  The broad-brush story goes: consider liberalism as a historically embedded, culturally prevalent mood rather than as a carefully worked-out academic theory. Understood this way, liberalism has its own fetishes: “freedom”, “choice” and “consent”. Rather than pronounce on any substantive conception of the good life, it prefers to let individuals find their own versions, and so contains no resources to say what is wrong with people walking about with absurdly large fake body parts or chopping real ones off to get sexual kicks. This view seems encapsulated in the response of soft-porn star Aella to the Ontario incident: “This seems fine to me? It’s the teacher’s body — let them do what they want with it. I kinda feel like you being weirded out is your business.”

But this general complaint about liberalism surely overstates the problem. Most people of even vaguely liberal tendencies would still instinctively endorse some version of John Stuart Mill’s harm principle: roughly, that the actions of a person or group can legitimately be criticised or even restricted where they harm others. This is not particularly technical stuff, nor is it out-of-line with basic social instincts. Who wants to live in a society where the freedom of others is completely unfettered?

Take the commonplace liberal distinction between what happens privately (and so is your own business) and what happens in public (and so is everyone’s business). Many fetishes are by their very nature public — they require an audience, willing or not, to get sexual arousal going. Even those that don’t require this are still all over the internet, discussed by their owners in forums, represented in pornography and erotic fiction, and politically advocated for by advocacy groups like WPATH. Fetishes are everyone’s business these days.

And nor is it difficult to come up with a credible account of the harm involved. Exposing children to visceral emblems of adult sexuality is likely to plunge some of them into strong feelings they are too immature to deal with, as well as potentially adversely disturbing the shape of their own future sexuality. It sends the message that boundaries are not important, and — in the case of the Ontario teacher — is likely to undermine the self-esteem of girls in particular by teaching them that parodic representations of their own bodies are socially acceptable in ordinary life.

Meanwhile, the decision by an authoritative body like WPATH to treat wannabe eunuchs as having unfairly stigmatised sexual identity, just like any other sheltering under the LGBTQI+ rainbow, has a number of undesirable effects. Most obviously, WPATH’s overtly sympathetic presentation of castration will surely increase the likelihood of larger numbers of males eventually self-mutilating. And apart from making a mockery of genuinely threatened sexual identities, the attempted assimilation of fetishism into LGBT rights makes a popular backlash against the whole of lot of us more likely too. In the old days, the activist’s aim was to demonstrate that gay people are not sexual deviants. These days, activists seem to want to suggest that sexual deviants are just like the gays.

When it comes to understanding the harm, then, angels dancing on the heads of tiny pins this ain’t. The more interesting question is why, when it comes to fetishes, people of liberal tendencies seem so reluctant to apply the harm principle. Why is it so difficult to say critical things about fetishes out loud? It’s particularly puzzling when you compare it to hair-trigger uses of the concept of harm in other areas.

For some, I assume it’s just idealistic naivety about the functional and obsessive way that male sexuality frequently can play out. For others who aren’t ignorant of this fact, part of the reticence may be a desire not to look like a censorious prude in public — a desire which apparently still lingers in many perennially adolescent minds to the exclusion of any other sensible thought. If it’s true that most of us are having less sex than we used to, it figures that some might compensate by trying hard to look like open-minded sexual sophisticates outside the bedroom.

But I suspect that, perhaps for women in particular, there may be more to it than this. The old joke says that a conservative is a liberal who has been mugged and a liberal is a conservative who has been arrested. Many women have been mugged by men — that is, sexually assaulted — and are likely to be sensitive to the potential predations of the male libido. But equally, many women have been arrested, in the sense of having had their sexual expression policed and controlled. Historical examples abound, as do contemporary ones from countries such as Iran, where last week a 22-year-old woman was murdered by the morality police for not wearing her hijab “correctly”. Perhaps consciousness of the culturally provisional nature of relaxed attitudes towards female sexuality is also part of the background here. Perhaps there is lingering anxiety about where trenchant social critiques of sexual behaviour will end up.

Yet whatever the reason for the reticence, liberals need to gird their loins for the dinner party circuit or the school gate, and start saying in public and with some conviction that certain sexual behaviours are unacceptable. They need to draw principled distinctions between gay men being afraid to come out to their peers, and men with castration complexes being embarrassed to tell their wives; between women wearing short skirts to parties and men wearing giant comedy breasts to work.

For if they can’t resist these slippery slopes, there are plenty of rabble-rousers out there who are only too happy to seize the opportunity to push gay and trans people all the way down them. A backlash is coming — indeed, is arguably already here, with white supremacists threatening Pride marches in the US and an apparent increase in violent attacks on gay men in the UK. As Mill understood well, public disapproval can be used for good or ill. Now is the moment for liberals to get involved and start endorsing sensible sexual boundaries, before others remove them altogether or set us all back hundreds of years.


Kathleen Stock is an UnHerd columnist and a co-director of The Lesbian Project.
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Thomas King
Thomas King
1 year ago

Having survived testicular cancer in my late teens, I often jokingly say I’m ‘1/3rd of the way to being a eunuch’, but joking aside the fact that my deforming physical injury can just be unilaterally declared by some pompous sex-addled slacktivist a ‘sexual identity’ that is ‘unfairly stigmatised’ is grotesquely offensive on so many levels. The only unfair stigma here is assuming my family jewels being short a jewel automatically makes me anything other than the healthy, straight male that I quite clearly am.

Last edited 1 year ago by Thomas King
Theo Hopkins
Theo Hopkins
1 year ago
Reply to  Thomas King

Having survived seriously life-threatening prostate cancer, requiring my taking drugs to massively lower my testosterone prior to radiotherapy, I wonder if I am now a woman.

Too Loose Low Trek
Too Loose Low Trek
1 year ago
Reply to  Theo Hopkins

Can you define the term woman? Hint: you needn’t be a biologist.

Steve Elliott
Steve Elliott
1 year ago

I’m not sure how many of those transwomen ever yearned for castration. We’ve seen them demonstrating outside feminist meetings with placards saying “Suck my c**k b***h”. That doesn’t sound to me like they want to be castrated. Quite the opposite. Sounds more like male aggression towards women.

Jeremy Poynton
Jeremy Poynton
1 year ago
Reply to  Steve Elliott

Misogyny and autogynephilia at the core of this

Richard Craven
Richard Craven
1 year ago
Reply to  Jeremy Poynton

Yes indeed, and also paedophilia in the case of the Ontario transvestite teacher’s sexualised display in front of kids.

Ian Stewart
Ian Stewart
1 year ago
Reply to  Richard Craven

Can you imagine the reaction if a teacher in tight leggings wore a 2 foot p***s prosthetic? Even worse if they wore one as long as the national average of 3 feet. 🙂
Given this Canadian pervert had very erect nipples on the prosthetic, suggesting arousal, one assumes this school would be fine with a male teacher walking around with a clothed and erect p***s?

Helen Murray
Helen Murray
1 year ago
Reply to  Ian Stewart

Haha! to the national average p***s of 3 foot :)) I somehow expect that if women teachers turned up at school with large phalluses attached they would get short shrift showing how biased the liberal world seems in favour of transgender women and drag queens.

Gary Cruse
Gary Cruse
1 year ago
Reply to  Ian Stewart

Clothed and erect? Shoot, Michelle Obama does it all the time.

Kirsten Walstedt
Kirsten Walstedt
1 year ago
Reply to  Ian Stewart

What if a female teacher wore a clothed and erect p***s?

Ron Bo
Ron Bo
1 year ago

Over her left shoulder?

Ron Bo
Ron Bo
1 year ago
Reply to  Ian Stewart

My thoughts as well.
It’s disgusting because our children need to be children,leave them alone.
I was a troublesome little shit when at school.
I know how I as a kid would have responded.
I guess these are nice middle class kids and not scrouts like my former self.

William Shaw
William Shaw
1 year ago
Reply to  Richard Craven

You seem obsessed with paedophilia. You mention it in every post.

Richard Craven
Richard Craven
1 year ago
Reply to  William Shaw

Ok groomer.

Miriam Cotton
Miriam Cotton
1 year ago

‘Our buxom Canadian’ is not a ‘she’ Kathleen. So long as you continue to promte that lie, you are ceding everything to the gender cult. They have you on your knees obediently speaking of them as they command. The rest is bleating into the wind. You have affirmed this pervert in his twisted fantasy in the most gratifying way he could wish for – without question. There it is, the female pronoun. That’s all he wants and needs from you. You place his fantasy above the reality and protestations of all other women. This is not ‘politeness’, it’s inexplicable and total capiulation, betrayal, even.

harry storm
harry storm
1 year ago
Reply to  Miriam Cotton

Chill. Ms. Stock said “she” once; earlier she referred to this perv as a “male teacher now identifying as a woman.” For all we know, it was a typo or a glitch. Even if not, I think Ms. Stock’s positions on this is quite clear, and she’s paid the price for her beliefs on this far more than you or I ever will.

M Castle
M Castle
1 year ago
Reply to  Miriam Cotton

Why this obsessive need for purity? It’s not as if Stock hasn’t clearly made her position blindlingly obvious: ‘a male teacher now identifying as a woman’ ‘men wearing giant comedy breasts to work.’
It’s a well-written, considered article which in a modest way is a call to action for people, like me, who consider themselves liberals. To get us to say publicly this kind of behaviour is not acceptable.
‘These days, activists seem to want to suggest that sexual deviants are just like the gays.’ Is this ‘ceding everything to the gender cult?’. Does the article cede everything? Of course not. Does unambiguously referring to the man as a ‘male teacher’ place fantasy above reality?
This is the internet and I’m used to opposite sides finding absurd faults with the other. The simplest slip is used to trash them as a literal Nazi or whatever. But the one use of the wrong pronoun and you seem to be writing off a whole article, if not Stock as a person (intellectually speaking). You seem as single minded and unable to handle nuance as any TRA

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Richard Craven
Richard Craven
1 year ago
Reply to  M Castle

Miriam has over-egged the pudding somewhat, but she is right to insist on the use of male pronouns to refer to men.

M Harries
M Harries
1 year ago
Reply to  Miriam Cotton

There’s a good chance that Buxom Boy is deliberately trying to provoke the destruction of the clownish Canadian Gender laws by seeing just how far the authorities will go in accepting outright absurdities.
Unfortunately it has to be done in a school to demonstrate that the authorities will literally sacrifice the mental health (forcing children to accept that which isn’t true) of children in subservience to Gender Woo.
As a Canadian I find this is excruciatingly embarrassing. Can we be colonised again, please… erm assuming Labour isn’t in power that is? Alternatively put the First Nations in power as I’m quite sure they didn’t vote for this rubbish either.

Peter Shaw
Peter Shaw
1 year ago

How long before sadomasochists insist on the right to be whipped in public? The fact that women in Iran are dying so as to escape that fate will obviously be lost on them.
Decadence will kill the West.

Gil Harris
Gil Harris
1 year ago
Reply to  Peter Shaw

It already happens on New York City subways. comment image

Gary Cruse
Gary Cruse
1 year ago
Reply to  Gil Harris

What am I missing? Looks good to me.

Helen Manson
Helen Manson
1 year ago
Reply to  Gary Cruse

Looks like there were no other seats available.

0 0
0 0
1 year ago
Reply to  Helen Manson

Belly laughs to both you and Mr. Cruse! (Sad a number of people don’t understand Cruse’s humor.)

John Ramsden
John Ramsden
1 year ago
Reply to  Gil Harris

It’s good manners to give your seat to a woman, but that is probably taking things too far!

Warren Trees
Warren Trees
1 year ago
Reply to  Peter Shaw

History repeats itself.

Gary Cruse
Gary Cruse
1 year ago
Reply to  Peter Shaw

Decadence is passing bills without reading them, and having a debased culture. The anglosphere is leaving that in the dust. The US has gone East German with the Salaried Thugs: American Stalinist Infantry aka STASI aka FBI.

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Saul D
Saul D
1 year ago

One goldfish-moment ago on the internet the debate was whether teachers should be allowed to wear religious symbols at school…

John Riordan
John Riordan
1 year ago

I once saw in a TV documentary about fetishes a man who had had a castration fantasy and was duly indulged by other fetishists at a fetish club. The two men who operated on him were Germans (why is nobody surprised at this part?), were complete strangers to him, and the operation was carried out in front of everyone else present.

Is it just me, or does a desire to have this done to yourself not constitute evidence of mental ill-health severe enough to deem you incapable of giving adult consent to it?

Gary Cruse
Gary Cruse
1 year ago
Reply to  John Riordan

And who is going to judge the mental health?
To an outsider, circumcision is barbaric. And your kid can’t consent. Do what ye will without harm to another. To yourself, go ahead, Chopitov.

Jane Awdry
Jane Awdry
1 year ago
Reply to  Gary Cruse

Circumcision is indeed barbaric. Interesting that of all the recent discussions on sexual mutilation of minors this one has somehow escaped comment.

Brett H
Brett H
1 year ago
Reply to  Jane Awdry

Probably because it’s becoming less common.

John Riordan
John Riordan
1 year ago
Reply to  Gary Cruse

“And who is going to judge the mental health?”

Clearly somebody has to, otherwise people are increasingly going to be doing permanent physical damage to themselves with the abetting of others who very obviously don’t have the individual’s best interests at heart.

Frankly I’m surprised you’re raising the objection at all given that the article above is presenting solid evidence that, at the fringes of supposedly adult consent, acts are being carried out that in any other context would be regarded as criminal.

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Christine Hankinson
Christine Hankinson
1 year ago

Excellent article. Thank you. It’s the old flaw of liberality isn’t it; what starts as accommodating and humanistic can end up overstepping the boundaries of tolerance, by going too far. By being greedy. And opinion will swing back and probably too far. Real change happens in tiny, tested, considered steps. Not by frightening the horses.

Jeremy Bray
Jeremy Bray
1 year ago

Again another good nuanced article by Kathleen Stock on a tricky area.

Jeremy Poynton
Jeremy Poynton
1 year ago
Reply to  Jeremy Bray

Not tricky. Grotesque and pervy,

Jeremy Bray
Jeremy Bray
1 year ago
Reply to  Jeremy Poynton

Not tricky for you and me perhaps, but tricky if you are a US school with lots of woke staff that you want to keep on side.

Brett H
Brett H
1 year ago
Reply to  Jeremy Bray

“a tricky area.”
What’s tricky about it?

Theo Hopkins
Theo Hopkins
1 year ago
Reply to  Jeremy Bray

Those of us who lack the very real skills of an academic philosopher might put this more bluntly and just say “what the f*uck?”.

Richard Craven
Richard Craven
1 year ago
Reply to  Theo Hopkins

I’m a former academic philosopher, and I too say “what the f*ck?”.

Richard Craven
Richard Craven
1 year ago
Reply to  Richard Craven

I have flagged Treasure Louisa’s reply to me as spam, and urge everyone else to do likewise.

Ron Bo
Ron Bo
1 year ago
Reply to  Theo Hopkins

Nice and succinct though.
These people are nuts and nicely raised people indulge them.

Rick Hart
Rick Hart
1 year ago
Reply to  Jeremy Bray

(WPATH notes that “many former Eunuch Archive members have achieved their goals and no longer participate”.)
Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face!

Peter Johnson
Peter Johnson
1 year ago

This is all definitely hurting the LGB movement. I follow alt conservative media and these incidents give them a never ending opportunity to denounce the whole gay rights movement. There is a legitimate argument IMO that you should not concede an inch to progressives because they will take 10 miles. Whether it is defunding the police, allowing mentally ill men in women’s spaces, energy policy that is destroying the world economy, forcing masks and unnecessary vaccines on little children, and encouraging mental illness in mostly teenage girls, the slippery slope has led us off a cliff.

Richard Craven
Richard Craven
1 year ago
Reply to  Peter Johnson

Absolutely right.

Davy Humerme
Davy Humerme
1 year ago
Reply to  Peter Johnson

A very prescient point which liberals and the soft and Stalinist left do not get.

Steve Elliott
Steve Elliott
1 year ago

The picture of the Teacher I saw reminds me of the Kenny Everett sketch which ends with “All done in the best possible taste”. Except he was funny.

Ian Stewart
Ian Stewart
1 year ago
Reply to  Steve Elliott

And Kenny’s false breasts were much smaller than this too!

0 0
0 0
1 year ago
Reply to  Steve Elliott

Candide!

Richard Craven
Richard Craven
1 year ago
Reply to  0 0

Pangloss!

Hugh Bryant
Hugh Bryant
1 year ago

Slightly off-topic, but anyone with a Linked-In account should message Vincent Belloc, UK Paypal boss and let him know what you think of his attack on the FSU.

Ian Stewart
Ian Stewart
1 year ago
Reply to  Hugh Bryant

Major PayPal shareholders are Vanguard and Blackrock, so you can move your investments too.

Steven Campbell
Steven Campbell
1 year ago
Reply to  Ian Stewart

Probably not, I think by last count, they own or finance the entire earth.

Kat L
Kat L
1 year ago

Vivek Ramaswamy has started a new investment firm called strive, which doesn’t follow this garbage.

Snapper AG
Snapper AG
1 year ago
Reply to  Hugh Bryant

Done!

Richard Craven
Richard Craven
1 year ago
Reply to  Hugh Bryant

I don’t have a Linked-in account, but sent Belloc this email yesterday:
Dear Mr Belloc
I am writing to inform you that I have closed my PayPal account because of your vile and disgusting treatment of the FSU, of which I am a member. I will not do business or otherwise transact with woke fascists who do not respect free speech.
Yours sincerely
Dr R.M.Craven
Here’s his email address: vbelloc@paypal.com

Ron Bo
Ron Bo
1 year ago
Reply to  Hugh Bryant

I wrote a polite request for PayPal to reconsider its decision.
It’s obvious the algorithm was written by an Ernest 20 something with appropriate pronouns.

eric james
eric james
1 year ago

Thank you Katherine Stock for balance in this unbalanced world.

James Kirk
James Kirk
1 year ago

The worm’s turning. We’ve still got a Tory government, just, and Sweden and Italy are on the turn. Biden’s lost his way this November, Ardern’s on her way out and Trudeau made no friends with the truckers. Politics is far from rosy in France and Germany. Just hang on a bit longer.

Miriam Cotton
Miriam Cotton
1 year ago
Reply to  James Kirk

Labour are rampant gender cultists. Women and children are not safe if they get into power. They are already in danger – the Tories are doing very little to push back against the cult – though they have done important things. Truss will destroy Britain economically, but this is one area where she may yet do some real and lasting good.

John Riordan
John Riordan
1 year ago
Reply to  Miriam Cotton

Saying that Truss will destroy Britain’s economy rather leaves out the fact that it is half-wrecked already by successive governments’ failure to crush the establishment consensus of the past thirty years. Truss might make it worse or better – my bet is that at least some of the things she’s going to do will be positive but that they may not be enough.

The reason I think Truss will probably fail is that at this stage, only a complete purge of the swamp will do, and nobody capable of getting into power is able to achieve such a thing.

Paula G
Paula G
1 year ago
Reply to  James Kirk

The leaders and media continue to be obtuse about significance and conclusions. (See Macron’s latest warning about the loss of Western democracies.). There can be no effective solutions with willingly obtuse elites. We are doomed.

Peter Johnson
Peter Johnson
1 year ago
Reply to  James Kirk

I don’t know. It is quite beyond my powers to understand how anyone voted for Trudeau the second time around. They probably will again. I really believe the US and Canada should Balkanize into red and blue zones. Cultural similarities in the two countries go north south (Montana = Alberta, Vancouver = Seattle) so these will line up nicely. Then people can actively choose who they want as neighbours. I am done with the entire progressive project so it will be a red zone for me.

Occams Razor
Occams Razor
1 year ago

(WPATH notes that “many former Eunuch Archive members have achieved their goals and no longer participate”.)
This is the ultimate in unintended consequences!

Paula G
Paula G
1 year ago
Reply to  Occams Razor

WPATH makes me immediately think of “World Pathology.” Surely this is hate think, though.

Guglielmo Marinaro
Guglielmo Marinaro
1 year ago

In the old days, the activist’s aim was to demonstrate that gay people are not sexual deviants. These days, activists seem to want to suggest that sexual deviants are just like the gays. 

The latter message is precisely the one conveyed by the ridiculous LGBTQ+ initialism (and its equally tiresome extensions). Which is why not only the TQ+ brigade, but also many anti-gay reactionaries who want to turn back the clock, will fight tooth and nail to retain it, and why we must definitively ditch it – the sooner the better.

Andrea Heyting
Andrea Heyting
1 year ago

This article reminds me of 7th July 2018 – which is when I first became aware of the gender wars. I was at a trans event in Manchester, and was simultaneously watching men in what can only be described as fetish gear parading down Canal Street outside my hotel window, and Get the L Out protesters “disrupting” London Pride on the BBC news.
I needed to know more, and it doesn’t take much to work out which is the right side. Morally, of history, whatever. Once I’d understood what had been happening I suppose I had my peak trans moment. Which is a bit shit if you’re trans.
You might describe me as AGP, a TIM (Trans Identifying Male), whatever – it doesn’t matter. Third party pronouns don’t belong to me, they are in the head of the person who thinks them. I know I’m male no matter what hormones I take or bits I have altered. What’s important to me is that I can go to the supermarket or the pub without fear. Which I can. And go to work without worrying. Which I can.
Part of the problem with a lot of TIMs is the hypersexualisation of what they consider to be a woman. There is no consideration of what it is to be a woman. The Canadian Teacher’s fake boobs are a case in point. I know men like this. And it really does need to be challenged.
I do worry that the people Kathleen describes will create an environment in which I am scared to go to to the pub / work / supermarket.
Thank you Kathleen, for everything you do and have done.

Warren Trees
Warren Trees
1 year ago

“Now is the moment for liberals to get involved and start endorsing sensible sexual boundaries, before others remove them altogether or set us all back hundreds of years.”
Seriously? Hasn’t that horse already left the barn?

Paula G
Paula G
1 year ago
Reply to  Warren Trees

The 90s, laid back UCSB campus, and student magazine stories about a woman who wore a see through dress on State Street with a rocking body, and yelled at people for sexualizing her. Also, a student who sold her services as a dominatrix, but decided that she was the one who was exploited, because “her arm hurt” whipping them. Lovely.

Now the college weirdos have found protected, highly paid employment with those formerly thought to be worthless “___ Studies” degrees.

How shocked I was to read stories in a German student newspaper about keeping your relationship alive during exam time rather than stories about not getting STDs and how to not really give a [] about the person you are not really seeing.

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Frank McCusker
Frank McCusker
1 year ago

“The old joke says that a conservative is a liberal who has been mugged and a liberal is a conservative who has been arrested.”
Very good, put a smile on my face, that : )

Samir Iker
Samir Iker
1 year ago
Reply to  Frank McCusker

From my experience, liberals are more typically marked by arrested development.

John Scott
John Scott
1 year ago
Reply to  Samir Iker

Thanks for the great and right-on humor!

Ian Stewart
Ian Stewart
1 year ago

When stuff as weird as this teacher happens it makes me think I’m really existing in some kind of Matrix style environment, and the cleaner has spilled cleaning fluid on the main computer running my imaginary world; or one of the computer operator Gods, new to the job, has changed stuff in my world for a laugh. Maybe he’s a fan of Kenny Everett.

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Gary Cruse
Gary Cruse
1 year ago
Reply to  Ian Stewart

You and I have outlived our culture.

Hardee Hodges
Hardee Hodges
1 year ago

The teacher I suspect is either dealing with a personal fantasy of how he would like women to be or indulging in mockery. I can’t imagine anyone wanting to become a eunuch but I did see that services include removal of everything which can cause issues with urine. I suspect life after the hormones stop could be difficult.

Kirsten Walstedt
Kirsten Walstedt
1 year ago
Reply to  Hardee Hodges

He literally gets off on other people’s (including the students’) shock and discomfort. He is sexually enjoying the “violation” of boundaries.

Jane Awdry
Jane Awdry
1 year ago

It’s interesting that the very people who are always bleating & making a massive fuss about feeling ‘unsafe’ & ‘uncomfortable’ have no problem when it comes their own behaviour making others feel that way.

Rita Falwell
Rita Falwell
1 year ago
Reply to  Jane Awdry

bingo

Liam Purcell
Liam Purcell
1 year ago
Reply to  Hardee Hodges

The only thing that needs removing is that eejit of a teacher. Worlds gone mad.

Kirsten Walstedt
Kirsten Walstedt
1 year ago

Agreed with every word (except calling the AGP teacher “she.”)

Richard Craven
Richard Craven
1 year ago

Well said.

Good Reason
Good Reason
1 year ago

Best article I’ve read in a long time on this subject. Thank you!

John Murray
John Murray
1 year ago

Obviously the whole thing is bonkers, but I admit that while reading this there was an unkind part of me that thought that there is a certain kind of lefty male that if they want to castrate themselves, preferably before reproducing, I do lean towards it being a free society . . . .
Also “The Eunuch Archive, a web forum with more than 130,000, er, members.” Very juvenile. I sniggered.

Theo Hopkins
Theo Hopkins
1 year ago

Having taught both young men and women basic wood machining in London, this bloke was a walking example of dangerous practice. And I’m not only thinking about his long hair, which should be tied back or tucked under a cap, lest it get caught in the saw a drag his face into it.
Fail!

Lindsay S
Lindsay S
1 year ago
Reply to  Theo Hopkins

Clearly his tatas aren’t real or he’d be concerned about accidentally slicing his nips off. Same with the hair, as it’s not going to get ripped from the scalp, it’s of no concern. Everything about this dude seems to be a questionable influence on the impressionable minds before him!

Dick Stroud
Dick Stroud
1 year ago

Another excellent article – thanks. I love the term  ‘LGBTQI+ rainbow’

Andre Lower
Andre Lower
1 year ago

Look, the issue here is more about “exclusive protection” for a few selected people at the expense of everyone else. And the obvious (hideously cynical too…) path towards dismantling the whole panacea is to start pushing for “exclusive protection” for more groups, until society acknowledges that the the whole idea of “protected groups” is garbage. For instance, I am about to declare myself part of the oppressed group “white heterosexual male” on the grounds of all the coward and baseless assumptions that have me portrayed as inevitably devious by society at large. Anyone wanna join up?

Jane Awdry
Jane Awdry
1 year ago
Reply to  Andre Lower

I would but as a ‘person with uterus’ I’m still trying to get exclusive protection as a ‘woman’!

Nicholas Taylor
Nicholas Taylor
1 year ago

The answer to the question ‘how many grains of sand make a heap?’ is the number at which the heap reaches the critical point where one more grain will cause the top layer to start slipping.

Paula G
Paula G
1 year ago

As a teenager, I had to do business at a city hall empowering La Raza (Mexican empowerment) with a huge mural of a naked woman with large breasts and a hairy [] giving birth to the world. It was agony, seeing this nearly daily.

The teacher should be required to wear a concealing padded bra. (Also, not pulling one’s hair back around shop equipment!!!!! is sending a dangerous health and safety message.)

I wish that other adults in the school and in businesses and city halls all over Canada would ditch bras and wear flimsy nylon trousers without underwear for a day to a week, in order to protest this. After all, they could be protected under expressing their own gender identity and gender expression, even if of the heterosexual variety.

Yes, this would be traumatizing the children, and being complicit in this, so perhaps this is not a good idea. However, a message needs to be sent, using the same freedom to express gender identity and expression.

Or perhaps everyone should wear a turban and blackface to protest against Trudeau’s Canada?

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Lindsay S
Lindsay S
1 year ago
Reply to  Paula G

I think the authorities just need to pull up their big girl or boy pants and say “NO! This is inappropriate, it is unacceptable! Dress with decency or don’t come back”. The courts need to back this up so they can’t sue.

Sheryl Rhodes
Sheryl Rhodes
1 year ago
Reply to  Paula G

As far as the teacher being asked to wear a concealing, padded bra—he doesn’t have augmented body-boobs. He has some kind of pillow-sized fake wearable boobs (literally, could be beach balls). Then he’s glued on (or whatever) some hard, saucer-sized areole and nipple on the outside of that fake foam b**b, then worn a super-thin knit shirt over the whole contraption. So wearing a bra over fake boobs he’s already wearing, maybe WITH bra, isn’t going to help.
I too wondered about what kind of sexualized fake-parts other teachers would be allowed to wear. Do they get to wear the size 64 RRRR foam boobs with big protruding plastic nipples if they are a non-trans-identifying woman? What if they are a man but don’t identify as trans but just likes to have fun with fashion? What if a cis-man wanted to wear those tight biking shorts with a 2′ long rubber member clearly outlined and swinging around inside of the shorts?

Matt Sylvestre
Matt Sylvestre
1 year ago

STOCK!

I don’t agree with all her positions but what would we do without her…

0 0
0 0
1 year ago

What amazed me is that he should have been asked to leave school as the clothing was inappropriate. Could have easily skipped taking a side. Intentionally wearing the ridiculous watermelons with large tips is a fetish. If not, he would have been hid the goods under a large jacket, and certainly would have worn a performance bra 🙂

John Lammi
John Lammi
1 year ago

There are no actual “trans” people while there are autistic people and males with a fetish about female appearance.

Richard Turpin
Richard Turpin
1 year ago

Thanks, Kathleen, for another excellent article.

John Lammi
John Lammi
1 year ago

The folks harassing gay events do not have to be “White supremacists, whatever they are. My experience is that they have historically been Black and Hispanic folks attacking us

Kat L
Kat L
1 year ago

I’m sorry I don’t understand the surprise. Just what did you think would happen when gay marriage was elevated to normality? Civil unions at least would have been a demarcation point but…it was a fast descent, less than 20 years…

Guglielmo Marinaro
Guglielmo Marinaro
1 year ago
Reply to  Kat L

As far as I am concerned, committed gay relationships are good precisely for what they are, and neither can be nor need to be “validated” by calling them marriages. I’m not therefore a supporter of gay marriage, although I fully support the introduction of gay civil partnerships.
However, putting up with this kind of nonsense does not logically follow from gay marriage, any more than it follows from traditional heterosexual marriage. Furthermore, we know nothing about this person’s sexual orientation. Most of the men who go in for this kind of fetish are heterosexual autogynephiles.

Brett H
Brett H
1 year ago

I would have hoped that a teacher would put their students first, rather than themselves. So, really, this is a story about the failure of schools to live up to their charter.

Richard Craven
Richard Craven
1 year ago

I foresee the day when the humble gimp suit becomes the standard school uniform.

Lindsay S
Lindsay S
1 year ago
Reply to  Richard Craven

Makes sense! I mean, any parent can tell you about the hoops they have to jump through to keep their kids out of isolation for clothing /shoe/hair regulation infractions. The gimp suit can solve all that! Hair too short? No problem – gimp mask!
Although, personally, I would prefer it if the teachers had to abide by the same standards set for the students.

Brett H
Brett H
1 year ago
Reply to  Lindsay S

This is why students don’t respect education institutions.

Nicky Samengo-Turner
Nicky Samengo-Turner
1 year ago

I could become an opera singer and carry less weight in handicap races?…

Steven Campbell
Steven Campbell
1 year ago

Slippery slopes and Camel’s noses seem to have turned into a straight plunge and the whole freakin’ Camel. What’s next? We know, watch your kids and goats for further adventures in this new “culture”.

Gary Cruse
Gary Cruse
1 year ago

I think you’re right. The Camel is in the tent.
Get ready for an onslaught of camel toes.

Alan B
Alan B
1 year ago

“This seems fine to me? It’s the teacher’s body — let them do what they want with it. I kinda feel like you being weirded out is your business.”
Okay, sure; and what follows if one decides to take their business elsewhere?
“Nice bank account you have, it’d be a shame if something baad happened to it”

James Kirk
James Kirk
1 year ago

Liberalism, like overt christianity, Jehovah’s Witnesses or those crazies who stand in the High St waving bibles, is best kept to yourself at home.

Steve Elliott
Steve Elliott
1 year ago

If a fetish becomes commonplace then perhaps it will no longer be attractive to the fetishists.

Steve Elliott
Steve Elliott
1 year ago
Reply to  Steve Elliott

Ok, I deserve to be marked down on that. What I had in mind was not a policy but an observation triggered by the picture of the couple on the tube train. It occurred to me that people like that get a kick out of dressing and behaving like that in public. For them that’s the point. Doing it in the privacy of their own home wouldn’t work for them. So if a lot of people did it then it would lose it’s attraction. It’s exhibitionism and it’s a lie to say that it has anything to do with their supposed right to be a woman or a man. Same as that teacher with the boobs who I’m sure gets a sexual thrill dressing like that in front of his class whatever he says his real motives are.
I’m not suggesting we should all start wearing tight leather cat suits and carry whips on the way to work.

Julian Farrows
Julian Farrows
1 year ago
Reply to  Steve Elliott

Once their fetishes are normalized they move into worse things.

Christopher Chantrill
Christopher Chantrill
1 year ago

I remind the writer that the point of all living things is to reproduce ourselves. Everything else is window dressing.
Not surprisingly, therefore, humans regard sexual identity and behavior as rather important, and we each want our view of the matter to be endorsed by the rest of society.
Each of us has a strong tendency to do what we want. But we are inclined to think that other people should just cool their jets.
We also live in an era where the Anointed, like the writer, establish their identity by stigmatizing the Benighted while protecting their Mascots and fluffing them with a feather duster.
But, if you don’t watch out, it becomes a bit tricky to tell the Benighted from the Mascots.

Theo Hopkins
Theo Hopkins
1 year ago

Uh?

Richard Craven
Richard Craven
1 year ago
Reply to  Theo Hopkins

He’s been reading Thomas Sowell, whose account of woke compartmentalises society along tripartite lines, adapting the traditional upper/middle/working class compartmentalisation, and also reminiscent of Plato’s philosopher/warrior/craftsman conception of the class system in an ideal society. Sowells’ account also transfers the burden of oppression from the alienated workers of Marxist dialectic to the ‘benighted’ a harried and guilt-tripped bourgeoisie.

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freddie miles
freddie miles
1 year ago

BREAKING NEWS:
Both the libs AND tories are capable of pathologies.
Roll on moral panics whose sustenance like clockwork relies on extreme rare examples that are never a representative trend. Sadly the conservative mentality of rationality easily gives way to alarmist triggers that exploit their vulnerability to change. The puppeteer knows their puppets well.
The insistence of ‘fetish’ to categorise preferences is also a Freudian slip that says more about the observer than the actual subject.

Brett H
Brett H
1 year ago
Reply to  freddie miles

Things have come a long way when you can make such a comment. Whatever you may be trying to say, this “rare example” is representative of a trend that politicises so many aspects of communities. You politicise it yourself with your judgement about conservatives, which is a generalisation you won’t be able to back up. What exactly is your definition of rare, when is it no longer rare, and then does that make them legitimate when they’re more common than not? Calling it a “moral panic” is a dirty way to address a growing problem that is affecting young people in a way that can never be corrected. But then you won’t mind because it’s merely “change”.

freddie miles
freddie miles
1 year ago
Reply to  Brett H

“this “rare example” is representative of a trend that politicises so many aspects of communities.”
Isolated instances of extreme behaviours are hardly trends. Of course they can be manipulated into appearing so via very ‘loose’ associations by charlatans & grifters performing mental gymnastics who know there’s an appetite for thirsty wowsers.
“You politicise it yourself with your judgement about conservatives, which is a generalisation you won’t be able to back up.” 
Lol. I’m simply stating an uncontroversial fact that conservatives prefer ‘conserving’ & if they didn’t ‘conserve’ wouldn’t exactly be in their ideological description.
“What exactly is your definition of rare, when is it no longer rare”
Certainly more than one instance.
“and then does that make them legitimate when they’re more common than not?”
Depends whether actual harm can be established.
“Calling it a “moral panic” is a dirty way to address a growing problem that is affecting young people in a way that can never be corrected.”
Apologies if facts hurt your feels but the shoe fits if exaggerated concerns over an isolated instance of inappropriate teacher behaviour is understood as a dangerously deviant threat to youth as a whole.
If you are referring to the phenomena of transgenderism increasing in profile being a threat to youth, I will say this:
We can’t spout the virtues of individualism & at the same time expect there won’t be any self exploration. Conservatives have as much culpability here as liberals. Self determination comes with risks. What we can do is genuinely commit to working towards minimising those risks which would be best spent focusing on commitment to improving holistic mental health access (a lesson hard learned from Tavistock) rather than role modelling chicken littlesque catastrophising over one off kooks.

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Brett H
Brett H
1 year ago
Reply to  freddie miles

“Self determination comes with risks.”
True, but removing girls’ breasts and putting them on puberty blockers is a warped view of self determination. We know self exploration is essential and it does come at a risk, which is why we try to manage that period of growth with as much care as possible so that there are two outcomes: the self exploration is carried out, and it does not lead to irreparable harm to the individual. This concern with how young people are being treated is not moral panic, it’s part of the protective nature of a caring community. It’s patently clear that transgenderism is a threat to vulnerable youth and this man is playing the transgender game with students. They may roll with the idiocy, but why should they be forced to do it, and what part do parents get to play in how their children are schooled?

John Scott
John Scott
1 year ago
Reply to  Brett H

We instructed our kids to not run out into streets and look before you cross.
We as a society should continue protecting our children, and from nut-case teachers.

Jane Awdry
Jane Awdry
1 year ago
Reply to  freddie miles

‘One off kooks’ would probably be ok if the guy in the massive wahoozers was just having a laugh. He’d have had his fun & been escorted off the premises while everyone chortled. But he’s clearly not having a laugh. He’s quite serious & is daring the school to object. And his point was confirmed by the school’s utter helplessness in the grip of the trans lobby in Canada.

freddie miles
freddie miles
1 year ago
Reply to  Jane Awdry

The school board have implied their support for her via an email to students so they aren’t ‘helpless’ rather misguidedly interpreting this matter as potentially discriminatory. Whether they are also in ‘negotiations’ with this teacher regarding implementing their dress code which they do have remains to be seen.

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michael harris
michael harris
1 year ago
Reply to  freddie miles

Him, not her.

Peter McLaughlin
Peter McLaughlin
1 year ago
Reply to  freddie miles

Sometimes a nutter is just a nutter.

Don Lightband
Don Lightband
1 year ago

Seriously chaps, just how different can this be from the presence of say, a clown? Is there not a rampant superstition regarding anything entailing certain body parts going on here? Why do we suppose that a small person’s intelligence – left to itself – is somehow incapable of dealing brightly and beautifully with this? Indeed, in a way i’d reckon to be ten times healthier than the wails of all the glorified pearl-clutchers chiming in here? What a ‘choice’ the poor otherwise intelligent kid has – either inundated by LGBTQ dogma, or swamped by the fears of ‘conservatives’! Let me out, let me out, they cry!

Julian Farrows
Julian Farrows
1 year ago
Reply to  Don Lightband

Children need healthy adult role models teaching them not ‘clowns’ that leave them feeling sexually intimidated.

Don Lightband
Don Lightband
1 year ago
Reply to  Julian Farrows

If there are no clowns, does that mean there are therefore “healthy role models”?

I scarcely think so. Surely once you posit a universalized model of health, you inevitably tend to force all manner of quirks, charms and oddities of personality into the psychic shadows?

How “healthy” can that be?

Brett H
Brett H
1 year ago
Reply to  Don Lightband

“does that mean there are therefore “healthy role models”?”
The classroom is not like the workplace. The classroom is full of impressionable children trying to work their way through a world they’re just learning to understand. For troubled children, those who come from homes without role models, then a role model is what they’re looking for. When those troubled and disruptive children go to camps where they get more one-on-one time with an adult the thing that most affects them is the role model they interact with. So yes, there are healthy role models.

Julian Farrows
Julian Farrows
1 year ago
Reply to  Don Lightband

Sorry, but school classrooms are not supposed to be safe spaces for adult sexual expression.

Brett H
Brett H
1 year ago
Reply to  Don Lightband

I don’t want a clown in class either. If the clown is entertaining as a clown, then fine, but he’s not going to have much effect teaching maths.

William Shaw
William Shaw
1 year ago

What people want to do to their bodies is their own business and no one else’s.
Every bodily modification is somewhere on a sliding scale from trivial to serious and everyone draws the line of unacceptability in a different location.
Makeup, hair colouring and extensions, manicures and pedicures, eyebrow plucking, Brazilian waxing, earrings, tattoos, piercings, nose jobs, lip and butt plumping, face lift and tummy tuck, breast enhancements, labiaplasty, facial feminisation and masculinisation, gender confirming surgery.

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J. Hale
J. Hale
1 year ago

I am sure the Canadian government never meant to include characters like this high school teacher in their anti-discrimination law.

N Forster
N Forster
1 year ago
Reply to  J. Hale

What reason do you have to be so sure?

Brett H
Brett H
1 year ago
Reply to  N Forster

Common sense?

N Forster
N Forster
1 year ago
Reply to  Brett H

What evidence do you have that the Canadian government is motivated by common sense?

Nicky Samengo-Turner
Nicky Samengo-Turner
1 year ago
Reply to  N Forster

doctors would need microscopes and tiny tweezers to perform the operation on Turdeau, assuming that the offending organs were actually there.

James Kirk
James Kirk
1 year ago

He’s the offending organ, singular, and it’s not male.

Brett H
Brett H
1 year ago
Reply to  N Forster

Okay, I take your point.

Mirax Path
Mirax Path
1 year ago
Reply to  Brett H

Commonsense is oppressive to marginalised identities! Get with the programme.

Brett H
Brett H
1 year ago
Reply to  Mirax Path

What’s wrong with common sense?

Jeremy Poynton
Jeremy Poynton
1 year ago
Reply to  Brett H

Trudeau? Common sense?
Hmmmmmmmmm

Steve Elliott
Steve Elliott
1 year ago
Reply to  J. Hale

Here is an article by Meghan Murphy. Scroll down to the second photo of a reading given to children in the Toronto Public Library by drag queens.
https://meghanmurphy.substack.com/p/proponents-of-drag-queen-story-hour

Gavin Stewart-Mills
Gavin Stewart-Mills
1 year ago
Reply to  J. Hale

I am sure the Canadian government never meant to include characters like this high school teacher in their anti-discrimination law.

Only if they are spectacularly stupid. I suppose they also didn’t imagine violent rapists would identify as female deliberately to switch prisons & terrorise female prisoners? Or mediocre male weightlifters would ID as females to pick up a cheap medal or two? Seriously – these potential abuses are flagrantly obvious to anyone with a brain. They represent the bulk of reasonable folks’ objection to the push for “self identification” laws.