In the opening of E. H. Gombrich’s A Little History of the World, there’s a lovely metaphor of the work of an historian. History, he writes, is like a bottomless well stretching into eternity, visible only by human recollection falling through the generations like lighted piece paper dropped into the void, getting smaller and smaller as it falls and disappears.
I’m reminded of that image as I consider the sense of deja vu currently hanging over British life; it feels as though we have been here before, and on more than one occasion. To live in Britain today is to be gripped by a sense of overwhelming, unshiftable malaise, which in recent months has morphed into something darker and more violent: a mood of bubbling resentment and anger that feels ready to explode. In many respects, this atmosphere is entirely new: a reflection of the globalised, social-media age in which we now live. And yet, it also feels so jarringly, achingly familiar — a dim folk memory from our recent past. Poor, rainy Britain, once again unsure what to do with itself, buffeted by the ideological storms rolling in from the United States, humiliated by those to whom we cling closest.
Exactly how our American cousins choose to belittle us might be new, but Elon Musk and Donald Trump are characters with whom we are all too familiar. Who is Trump, after all, but some cartoonishly outsized version of Billy Bob Thornton’s déclassée commander-in-chief in Love Actually. To complete the picture, we now have Keir Starmer forced to cosplay Hugh Grant, who himself was cosplaying the Tony Blair of Middle England’s fantasy back in 2003.
Yet, Trump’s familiarity is not only cultural. Britain’s three great post-war lows came in 1956, with the calamity of Suez; 1976 with the humiliation of its IMF bailout; and 2003 with the invasion of Iraq. In each case, Britain’s shame was not alleviated by its alliance with the US, but rather compounded by it. At Suez, Dwight Eisenhower’s threat of economic ruin forced Anthony Eden’s retreat. During the IMF crisis, Gerald Ford’s administration refused to play “host to a parasite”, imposing an austerity Britain previously considered unimaginable. And then, in 2003, it was the desire to avoid a calamitous break with America that ultimately doomed Blair’s premiership. Are the indignities of the past few months really so different?
Of these moments, it is the late Seventies which — at first — appear the most obvious parallel. Battered by both our own economic failures, and the storms blowing in from the US after Richard Nixon’s decision to unilaterally abolish the Bretton Woods order, Britain suffered calamity after calamity until the Thatcherite revolution of 1979 changed everything. That, at least, is the story that is now told. Such, in fact, is the power of this Thatcherite fable — what we might call “Iron Ladyism” — that it has become the conventional account of Britain’s entire post-war history: First decline and then renewal. Now, of course, we are back to decline.
Yet, the more I stare down the well of our recent past, the more it seems necessary to look beyond the Seventies, to the tumultuous decade that came before, in order to glimpse of the real significance of our present turmoil. While the Seventies were the years when the post-war order finally spluttered to its end, it was the Sixties which paved the way for this collapse after years of imperial retreat, military humiliation, domestic violence, ideological upheaval and, finally, conservative rebellion. Sound familiar?
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SubscribeI think the tweets of musk are massively overrated. Only a relatively small amount of people are actually on X.
What we see are the chickens coming home to roost. Islamism. Grooming gangs. Two tier policing. Post Covid financial ruin. And finally a government and PM that are so clearly inept and out of their depth it’s actually frightening.
We have had 20 years of frankly stupid governance. Of being lied to. By our ministers and the media. Worst still. We know we’re being lied to.
In effect Musk is rather clumsily putting a mirror up to some of our most grotesque acts of deliberate ignorance and indifference and saying “you let this happen? Shame on you.” And no one likes that. Especially a former head of the CPS.
This is a genuinely pivotal moment for Britain. We have allowed, under the banner of maintaining social cohesion, a truly dreadful miscarriage of justice. On an epic scale. The only way out of this is through it. Through genuine investigation and prison sentences. And if that means councillors, police officers etc so be it. This rot of our institutions has to stop. And if social cohesion takes a hit then so be it.
I note you give the Tech Bros and the pernicious impact smart technology and social media has arguably had a free pass. Of course that’s what Elon wants. Can’t stand the fact UK tough enough to have an OnLine Safety Bill. Which has special safeguards for children, demonstrating he ain’t interested really in child abuse at all. He’s just weaponising an issue for his own benefit and suckering you in the process.
As regards a further Inquiry that might find criminality in some public officials regarding the grooming gangs, it may be a limited Inquiry is established but the chances 20yrs later of identifying criminality are v unlikely and as Bojo said himself ‘…we don’t need to spaff millions more on another Inquiry’. He could have added we need to now implement Jay recommendations but he was distracted when she reported. I’d recommend though, for those who are actually serious about the matter – which is v few, a full read of the Jay Report. It explains the problems with identifying criminal intent but it does explain how political correctness played a role and can never happen again. A National Inquiry of course will show Starmer in good light. The prosecutions started under his watch and he appointed the main Prosecutor who nailed the first set of gangs. A Muslim by the way – Nazir Afzal. You should read some of what he did and says about the abhorrence of the gangs. But rather than just rant on social media he nailed them. Tricky one that for your racial hustle isn’t it.
I notice (like so many others) you go first to the evils of social media. And not to the very obvious actual harms of the working class girls involved.
I don’t think your tried to engage in good spirit on that comment if I can say so. however I do I agree with most of your original summary . We have been failed. it is a disaster decades in the making. I think we do need a national enquiry and yesterday,. But we also need to do something today so I would not want the findings of the enquiries already undertaken not to be implemented.i think you are also to soft on Musk( ‘clumsily ‘ is such an understatement for repeated broadsides against multiple institutions in the west). Such an uncritical free pass i just don’t get , unless you’re just happy to be on the winning side in a debate without doing the work. Can you really believe his intervention is in some way deeply in the interest of the victims or the British public at large? If so I’d be interested in your explanation of it and how it links to a broader vision for the UK, Tom Mc doesn’t seem to be able to articulate it either. I suppose the character limit on Twitter/X really is a limit to good and interesting speech after all. In addition, for anyone with a keyboard who cares to look , Elon was voting Democrat and fully signed up to D&I only a few short years ago when it suited him much like Boris and Truss in their time- why should we take Musk any more seriously just because he’s been a lot luckier then them. What explains Musk’s switch?what happened? Did he get ‘woke’ by any chance? Or did he simply see regulatory barriers looming and decide to surf the waves of geopolitics that most favoured him. ( Absolutely no historical precedent for that in business is there ?)
Not a fan of elected foreign officials wading in to our national life, let alone plutocrats.
Lack of good spirit?! My lack of good spirit might come from accusations of ‘race hustle’. If there is a racial element to this it is an unfortunate and sad fact. But that aside.
I’m not letting anyone off the hook. I just find the idea that social media is the driver of the issues we face laughable.
The grooming gang scandal is being discussed on Twitter and the issue is social media? Not the scale of the problem? Not that the police failed? That councillors failed too? That the Labour Party tried to silence an MP over the issue?
David Amess, the Tory MP is stabbed to death and again it’s social media that’s in the cross hairs. Not the ideology that drove the man to do it? Bizarre.
And now we hear that suspected people smugglers may face a social media ban. Not the boats? Not the steady stream of people?
And Elon stops supporting democrats and supports Trump. And what exactly?! Does a man changing who he votes for shock anyone?
In my 30+ years of voting I’ve voted Liberal, Tory and Labour. I vote on policies. Not on dogma. Maybe Elon does the same.
Social media got you interested but not in an informed way. Much more in the racial hustle way. Absolutely certain you never read the Jay Report with interest when it came out. And you still won’t have. You are categorically about weaponising the matter and getting steamed up because that hypocrisy is called out.
As regards Elon, well I hope it continues that he tries to essentially ‘buy’ Reform. Deserve each other. British public will abreact. We may have differing opinions but we don’t like foreign Billionaires obviously seeking to control us and telling us what to do.
No. I was aware of this issue for some time. What I wasn’t aware of was the scale. And its distribution across the UK.
The attitudes of many us need to be re-examined. I remember a heated conversation with a left leaning friend of mine over the publishing of the images of the convicted perpetrators. He claimed it was racist and inflammatory. I was shocked. These are the facts. The guilty. They should be named. Shamed. Not hidden away in an effort to pretend it didn’t happen. After all, the shame of a a community that allowed this to happen is part of the deterrence surely?!
And here in lies the problem. In our efforts to maintain social cohesion we have created a monster. One that grows ever more grotesque. Trust in the judiciary collapses. As does trust in government. The police. The MSM.
That is not the doing of social media. It is the doing of well-meaning fools or spineless cowards. Or worse. You decide.
I think you admit being aware but only partially informed as you’ve not read the Report that followed 7yrs of investigation and interviews.
The comment by some friend, daft and misguided though it is, does not absolve you of not taking the time to read up a bit more first.
IMO the race element comes from the left – its just an element but they tend to want to elevate this into an iron certainty of causation – brown skin good – white skin bad. I spent sometime in a particular UK town in the 1990s. Looked very rich on the surface but the underbelly was grim, i mean Baltimore or Detroit grim. I know some of the people – “perps” and “victims” in this sorry saga and they were drug vendors and their molls. Some guys treated their women well, most did not. Many had an arranged Pk wife at home aswell and some treated them badly too. What struck me when this wave of cases came through were the ages. The age difference would typically be man in his 20s – car, cash, drug problems, oppressive religious family – the girls usually 16-20 and flat broke from failing families on failing estates. The defendents were by then in their mid/late thirties and their accusers some 5-10 year younger. There was no obvious reason to suspect an abusive relationship based on age – not by the standards of Pk’s Northwest Frontier anyway. Also for those falling for Labour’s race baiting check Vermont or Virginia – age of consent 15 – Germany, Austria – 14. Don’t even go there for Colombia or India – i think Pk scores low on the table of womens rights and femicide but from what i have discovered India is undisputed champ with South Africa and Brazil close behind.
Oh hush. You want the Online Safety Act so you can sweep things back under the carpet and keep peddling the bankrupt progressive ideology by controlling the media. If Musk lived in the UK he’d be arrested by now. The UK is the embarrassment of the free world – not just because of the rape scandal – but because people are visited by the police for complaining about the rape scandal. The outrage at Musk just continues to underline how deeply rotten the UK’s managerial class has truly become. Canada’s Online Harms Act just died on books because our progressive authoritarian in chief Trudeau has suspended Parliament. He planned to use if for the exact same thing the UK has been doing. Arresting people for disagreeing with him. Thankfully he will be gone soon along with the horrible ideology that the UK just voted in in the form of Labour. Trump was elected to sweep out the odious progressive ideology that captured the US – and which also captured Canada, New Zealand, Australia and much of Europe. I hope he continues to be the bull in the China shop and shakes the entire Western world to its foundations. If he has to use economic force to bring the European progressive ruling class to its knees then so be it. I really hope Greenland joins the US if for no other reason to humiliate Macron and Starmer and the remaining progressive clowns systematically destroying Europe.
So you are ok with Social media giants being complicit in child abuse? Or like Trump happy to leave them alone if they give money to your campaigns? Actually Steve Bannon happens to be right on the Billionaire’s racket that is Trump 2.0.
Brits are apparently more concerned about their children’s safety online than their children’s safety in the back rooms of local chip shops. Check your priorities, mate.
Why do you say that? Can’t it be both?
And where’ve you been last 14yrs, or even since Jay reported in 22? Read the Recommendations? Pressed for full implementation? I suspect not. Too lazy to read it.
Afzal did indeed say something about the rape gangs. And it stands him out as few other Muslim ” leaders” have done so. The silence has been thunderous.
As for an inquiry, if there was one, Two Tier would stitch it up. It shouldn’t need one, it should only need a functioning police force. But ……
And it is not racist to question the fact that the rape gangs are almost all Muslims.
Very true – there are massive anomolies in the rape gang narrative. Uncivilised sex abusers with brown skin are no different to ones with white skin. There are a mass of highly civilised, law abiding and well educated ppl in the UK Pakistani community – and equally in the white one. How do you think Afzal felt when the Left tried to protect the rapists because they shared ethnic origins with him? As disgusted as i would be if you said i shared a fixed cultural causality with Ed Gein or the Grand Cyclops of the KKK. I disagree Starmer comes out of this anything else but guilty. No deportations, victims refused compensation and even prevented from making victims statements in court. Percentage of charges dropped, percentages of suspects fled to Pk? That’s before we get into labor baridari votes and the sick things they said and continue to say about the native Brits they despise. Sure the Tories were asleep at the wheel and are on the bandwagon now Starmer’s under the spotlight – but there’s none of the gleeful bully hate there that characterised the Thatcher years. There’s a sense of grown upness to Badenoch & most of her colleagues that Labor would do well to learn from, though it might reduce their membership by 95%
Elon and the techbros didn’t gang rape any kids, or collude with gang rapists, or cover up for them.
That your outrage is reserved for Elon instead of nonce’s and their liberal left accomplices says everything.
As they say, Timing is everything.
Successful leaders lead, but really successful leaders create the circumstances where they can lead even more effectively or, in desperate times, more often than not. (That’s how some last for decades, and some don’t.). And every king needs his court, whether it’s a monarchy or a republic, and there needs to a bit of a rag-bag of followers, keeping everyone on their toes.
I am sure there were many waiting for an appropriate moment, rather than being centrally coordinated, as it is obvious that some resignations/revelations are a tipping point while others disappear and forgotten, forever.
The current media obsession with Musk seems purely because he bought Twitter, which the left media thought was their own sheltered playgroup and propaganda outlet. The rest of us are trying to get on with our lives.
While Musk shines the light into your deep and dark corners.
My deep and dark corners are musky enough already, thank you.
Crawl out from under the bed and roll into the sunlight. It will do wonders.
It is the plain truths grounded in commonsense that Musk utters on X that has the left tearing their hair out. They thought with Twitter they had permanent control of what was allowed to be said and then there comes along an eccentric and charismatic billionaire who turns over the whole apple cart. We’ve been very lucky.
See what Steve Bannon, doyen of MAGA, saying about Elon. And you think this is coming from the Left? You’re in for a shock.
“The current media obsession” <- note.
Nothing individual commentators say shocks me, but it’s not relevant to my comment.
Get on X. That is where the news breaks. It is immensely powerful.
It used to be. Now it’s just a hollowed out shell. Musk’s first action was to sack half the staff. You can’t do that & expect the platform to function well. I’ve taken a break for a month as it had become so toxic. I don’t think I’ll go back.
What evidence is there of it NOT functioning well since the staff reductions? There isn’t any. And yes, free speech can be a little messy. Perhaps you preferred the previous echo chamber whose work ws documented and discredited.
While we’re talking about echo chambers I’ve heard that defence many times. Where is your evidence that speech is more free on X post Musk? That all ideas and views get equal traction? And while we are at it are they doing anything to safeguard the same abuse that took place in the UK proliferating unchecked online and unmoderated?I’d suspect there isn’t any. No more than the policing of language and views that existed before with the previous ownership provided freedom of speech ,- that ever elusive promised land of balanced public discourse.Reading the comments here generally in this thread I’m surprised how many people seem willing to leave their brains at the door and allow Musk a free pass. His only consistency in free speech absolutotism is with respect to using maximum force in defence of his own personal and business interests. If the people of Britain can no longer see that then I’m very worried. Like our govt or not, he has waded in on our institutions and for me he and his business’should be rebuked in the strongest terms , no matter which side of the dispatch box you stand on. Such are the times though that this kind of patriotism is forgotten. A lot of people it seems are ready to bend the knee again to the unelected, generational wealth of an emerging corporate and techno aristocracy. I suppose if we cede our agency to others life is less complicated no? More time to consume, more time to become dormant and compliant.
I love it. It depends who you follow. Plenty laughs too.
Agreed. It’s a great source of information and fun. Just one needs to be discerning, which is a valid principle in real life, too.
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Off-topic: all up- and downvotes have disappeared. Again.
UnHerd’s moderation system is exasperating.
I love X too! There’s a real sense of freedom of speech; lots of irony, satire, honesty, and exposure to home truths, something sadly missing from the mainstream media.
Half the staff were bad actors…. The censorship boys and girls and the general layabout had to go obviously.
Hugh is demonstrating how to say he has no idea atcall of how X runs or works.
Indeed he doesn’t.
He sacked mostly those who got paid for censoring the content on the platform. The engineers and all other staff that does the real work all remain in place.
I like this comment for the reason that it acknowledges the public’s role in all of this: how passivity and an inclination to look away from difficult stuff instead of looking it in the face and having those awkward conversations allows terrible stuff to happen. There’s no doubt Britain has been badly governed for decades. But honestly: there is no truer statement than “Every country gets the government it deserves”.
In the circles I come from, an ability to put up with adversity, pain, inconvenience is worn like a badge of honour and complaining is a clear moral failing, a sign of weakness. Addressing anything more controversial than what’s for lunch is likely to earn you a big, long passive aggressive silence. That’s how I was brought up at any rate.
In some ways, it’s a good thing, but all too often it goes too far and results in the grim acceptance of the clearly unacceptable. This is why the grooming gang scandal doesn’t shock me as much as it should.
You have contradicted yourself. On the one one hand, Musk’s significance is overrated; on the other, he holds a mirror up to our dreadful governance. You can’t have it both ways.
Succinct assessment however, I think you could also add to our list of woes the British habit of virtue signalling over best interests, e.g net zero, ESG and DEI.
Nobody I know is belittling Britons as a whole; I for one consider the UK our oldest and best friend. However, having just beaten back the Mongol hordes here in the States, any American who is paying attention is concerned for your great nation in the same way a cancer survivor is concerned for HIS oldest and best friend who turns up with the same tumor.
For the last four years of utter lunacy and Woke chaos I wore a crimson hat with the words, “Save America” emblazoned across the front. After the November election I scrawled a “D” after “SAVE.”
We may not be 100% saved, but at least we’re in Titanic’s lifeboat. Please try to refrain from denigrating Elon, The Orange Man and America in general as we all attempt to drag you onboard. As in other times, we may be your only hope.
Reading the article you will discern a long history of screwing us over.
It is more than possible that James Wills will be proven correct and I would not discount the beliefs of the few allies Britain has in the world. The article is upbeat on much that holds a majority of British together. The sooner Brits shake themselves free of their class system whereby those born in the correct bed or from the South benefit over the average person or those from the North, the longer the malaise will last in Britain. Tax the aristocracy right up to HM., the rich and Britons in tax havens, and make the poor actually work for benefits, deport any dual national from Pakistan and stop feeling sorry for yourselves. Britain is one of the few middle powers that has not had a revolution. Perhaps it needs one. And don’t worry about getting screwed over, you are screwing yourselves so well presently that blindness is imminent.
You are doing the same thing with Canada and we sorely need it.
I think many of us are grateful that Musk kicked over the stone and ensured many more around the world saw just how grotesque was (and is) this concerted cover up of the systemic torture and gang rape of working class girls by a certain ethnic group that had come to believe they were free to commit such atrocity with impunity as the shameful collective political and police establishment were only to happy looking the other way.
I am sure that same establishment will stoop to any low available to silence such a powerful source of inconvenient facts and points of views that refuses to kneel to their diktat.
Sorry to disappoint you but this story broke years ago. Don’t credit Musk with anything other than his own self interest.
I had to add and edit because on re- reading it I could only think it’d been written by AI as it lacked in any originality or nuance. Could have been written by Elon himself.
For what it’s worth I do think there should be a full national enquiry but also think that implementation of safeguarding actions needs to happen sooner rather than later.
Surely we can do both and we do not need a plutocrat to tell us so. story broke in the Times, what ten years ago? Through detailed investigative journalism. Why are you or anyone pretending Musk is the first person to speak about this or the plastic cockney Steven Yaxley Lennon?
Do you really think that without Musk’s intervention this story would not have been buried? Again?
Hugh, the government has had the recommendations since before Stamer was elected and has been in the public domain for a long time. Govt inaction is not evidence of a conspiracy to bury the story In and of itself. It is simply a symptom I’m afraid of the fact that almost all of Britains problems have been sacrificed to the Conservative party’s complete implosion since 2010. historians will look at the 2010s and early 2020s as a protracted civil war within the Tory party & government with Britain being the loser. how the hell could any policy or improvement survive the brain dead govt we have had to suffer. Do I think this specific policy area has been handled badly (and by many agencies) ? Yes. Do I think more action should have been taken by now yes. ( Look to Boris, Lizz, Teresa and Rishi for their silence on it no implementation of any corrective actions) I even think a national enquiry should have been launched in parallel to the existing recommendations to strengthen safeguarding being implemented at a local level. But Christ please save me the platitudes for Musk as some form of avenging angel we needed.
Please don’t insult my intelligence.
I have been aware of this “story” as you call it for twenty years. My comment clearly states that I felt Musk had ensured the story got to many more people around the world not that he broke the story, or even more absurdly, that I am pretending that Musk is the first to speak about this. Perhaps you need to read more carefully before responding.
What difference does it make to reach an international audience? They don’t make our laws, we do. It is a British issue that could have been more swiftly dealt with by the British government had they not been distracted by …oh yes , classic Tory infighting.that civil war has seen countless people suffer in all walks of life.I don’t see Musk piping up for them? The majority of sexual and domestic violence victims who unfortunately have the misfortune to have their abuse take place in the home , church or charitable foundation rather than via a Pakistani rape gang seem to have escaped Tory and Musk fascination recently.I say that to in no way to diminish the suffering of those impacted but to state simply that these cases are unfortunately the tip of a disgusting iceberg that needs to be purged from British society. The failings our society has faced as a consequence of this poor leadership falls firmly with the conservative party , however inept Stamer may be up to this point. tMusk’s ‘Johnny come lately’ remarks are beyond cynical. Personally i’m all for a further national enquiry and disagree with labour in stalling on this but please please don’t fall in with the herd when it comes to Musk and his influence and very narrow focus. Please don’t confuse it for genuine concern for Britain or its people. Tom’s article is a lot of fluff. Musk is not a champion of Britain or a thought leader or anything else other than himself a very successful and ruthless plutocrat. People need to realise that. He has zero interest in the welfare of British citizens , he only views us as consumers and we’d all be wise to remember that.
Ps sorry for any offence caused by the earlier comment.
What puzzles me greatly is that in education (I’ve a teacher for 36 years), safeguarding is a major part of our responsibilities; I wouldn’t say too much so but it’s very prominent. And, it is made very clear that if we fail to handle child protection issues correctly, then our careers are likely to be over.
So when I hear that some police or social workers are ignoring girls’ complaints or even imagining that, as children, they are consenting, I am amazed.
It seems to me that those who have failed in their duty have forgotten what the basics of their jobs are. I imagine that having to deal with these issues is very tough and I am grateful to have had little direct involvement but I cannot understand how people could believe that being nasty to Pakistanis was worse that allowing children to be r@ped.
Give me a break. You are literally arresting people for criticizing immigration policy. We all saw the video last week of the 80 year old man being arrested because according to the arresting officer something online made a person ‘uncomfortable.’ Stop making excuses. Any society where this happens is not a free society. The UK is broken and it takes someone like Musk to shame people into admitting it.
The real questions never get asked.
Why do supporters of LGBT keep selling a pro Islamic line ? When it might get them killed ?
Why do the civil service think increasing the population by immigration (which is huge cost to the state) is a good thing ?
The answer in both cases seems to be that anything which undermines tradition, stability, and the western order of life is to be pursued, no matter how contradictory it may appear.
Look up Bacha bazi- not all Muslims on the same page.
This jerkwad writer is defending a British ruling class that has literally allowed gangs of rapists to attack British children. I guess blaming Americans for pointng this out is par for the course. After all, the British have jailed the victims, ignored the victims, silenced the accusers, protected the criminals, and jailed those who dared protest. If Britain values protecting child rapists over being a civilized country, then maybe it is time for America to move on.
Point of order – Musk is South African, not American.
Point of Order rejected. Musk lives i. America. He is an Ameican citizen. He has full rights to living as an American.
We’ll have to agree to disagree on that, given that Musk oozes “South African” from every pore. I note that Steve Bannon has broadly the same views on Musk as I do.
” …the apparently alien fanaticism of radical Islam…”
From where I stand it looks like a fully fledged alien fanaticism. No qualifier needed.
Well said, I agree completely. We spend too much time apologising for stating the obvious lest we offend the strange or foreign, the Pakistani rape gangs being a good example. Their community must have known what was going on in the name of that Allah. What a strange creature, their “God”, back in the 60’s and 70’s although having a reasonably good education I rarely heard of the entity.
The UK is still on the brink of disaster as are France and Germany. Ongoing censorship of the patterns of migrant violence, no-go zones, Islamic worship in the streets of England’s cities and towns, Islamic violence towards women walking in public minding their own business, and the burning of churches and who knows what else…. all of this must be aired in the open and roundly condemned. There must be a clear rejection of Sharia law and deportation of the advocates and practitioners of same. We on the other side of the Pond are praying for our European brethren. I am a Brit, German and Scandinavian by ancestry, and Jewish by religion … and I’m hoping the truth tellers like President Trump, Douglas Murray and Elon Musk will prevail. JD Vance called the UK lost as an Islamic country but I hope he is wrong.
Now if you had Enoch Powell in charge of Reform, you’d really have a party.
not much fun though for a party
I’m not sure that Musk is driving anything so much as reacting to it, pointing out things that the ruling class would rather we plebes not notice.
That felt like an enormous build up to a pretty thin conclusion.
How can an article of this length not mention the growth of the Blob on one side of the Atlantic and the Deep State on the other? These powerful bureaucracies have the power to anul through sabotage and slow walking anything the legislatures pass. Why do the boat people continue to cross the channel unimpeded, why was the wall on the Southern border not completed in spite of the overwhelming desire of the citizens of both countries expressed in countless polls and many elections? Enoch was a prophet but even he couldn’t foresee the modern insolence of civil servants and the cancerous growth of permanent government with Uniparties symbolic of the rot sitting on top and very happy with things as they are with only the pretence of change on offer at election time.
This is utter nonsense.
Powell spent decades thinking deeply about the UK and politics and was able to deliver a lucid and coherent message. Whether you agreed with the message or not, the clarity and consistency of his writing and thinking wasn’t in doubt.
Does Elon Musk actually share any of those attributes ? Does he have long-standing, self-consistent views ? Does he even expound these in any detail (X tweets are rather different from writing a book) ? Does Elon Musk have any strong attachment to a place or country ?
Not sure why Tom McTague so dismissively assumes that Thatcher’s views are irrelevant to the UK today. Can’t be sure, but looks like he’s too young to have experienced the 1970s (and even the 1980s) first hand. Those of us who did no are no doubt recognising many of the problems from the 1970s recurring now.
An excellent assessment of the article. One of the few on this thread to see through the thin veneer that Musk promotes. Musk promotes himself. Always. he is probably motivated by the possibility of sanctions and regulation via the online safety bill and other mechanisms in the EU, more than any serious interest in ‘justice ‘ in the UK generally or dissatisfaction with the labour govt. The guys was all in on D&I only a few years ago if his tweets then are anything to go by. He can hide behind the incoming Trump administration and the obvious implications this has on international politics for now and use that to wage war on the EU , Brazil, UK or anyone that stops him doing what he wants( consequences free). Such an unusual position for a CEO, no? Personally I’m quite interested in the highly likely fallout between Trump and Musk . The same team can only contain so much narcissism for so long. When that spark goes off I think it will be quite something
You’re reading rather more into my comment than I actually wrote ! I gave no opinion on Musk at all there.
My current view on Musk is that he’s a brilliant but rather erratic individual. Someone who’s sometimes near 100% correct (if such a thing is possible), but sometimes (less frequently) near 100% wrong. Not at all suited to politics. I’m also mystified why the US SEC haven’t taken action about some of the things he’s said and done which seem to be fairly blatant market manipulation.
In some ways he’s become an effective useful idiot (though far from an actual idiot) for the right. He’s certainly saying some things that need to be said, should be said in the UK and are often not said because we don’t have full freedom of speech (First Amendment) and have to deal with nonsense like super injunctions. If he’s sometimes wrong, that’s fine. That’s what free speech is about.
Noted, and perhaps I went too far but I do feel strongly that, as you say yourself with regard to market manipulation , he is again playing his hand but in a different sphere and one he’s neither suited to or has a clear interest in – other than postponing and destroying any chance his business’ face regulation of any kind.
The broader question this intervention begs beyond the prosaic assessment by Tommy Boy is – is this the new normal? Our elected officials being shouted down by tech bros who are for the most part incredibly unserious. I respect your position but I think you are far too generous in your assessment of Musk.
I think the comparison McTague is making is just between Powell’s role in laying the groundwork for future developments on the Right, and Musk’s current role as a disruptor possibly presaging something similar by clearing a path for others.
I don’t think the article is saying much more than that.
Obviously it goes without saying that Enoch Powell and Musk are very different.
“consensual conservatism”
Translation: Conservatism that is tolerated – just barely – by liberals, and then only so far as it doesn’t interfere with the steady Progressive destruction of society.
“the riots of 2024 are the closest thing Britain has seen to the outpouring of populist fury since Enoch Powell’s sacking in 1968” Really?
1977 Battle of Lewisham, 1979 Southall, 1981 Toxteth, 1985 Broadwater Farm, 1983-84 Coal Miners strike, 1990 Poll tax, 1999 Anti-capitalist, 2001 Mayday and Northern racial, 2009 G20, 2010 Student Fees, 2011 TUC March, Tottenham and other cities, 2020 BLM,
“To live in Britain today is to be gripped by a sense of overwhelming, unshiftable malaise, which in recent months has morphed into something darker and more violent: a mood of bubbling resentment and anger that feels ready to explode.”
After my recent visit I think I’d add in “Olympic levels of denial” to that.
Like the person who has pooped their pants but is sitting there in a cloud of stink, carrying on and hoping no-one notices. Everyone has.
It’s not as simple as one woke commentator and Starmer fan below suggests, pointing out that Nazir Afzal, the prosecutor Starmer assigned to the case, is a Muslim. The issue is cultural not racial or even confessional. The defining factor is education, combined with, to a lesser degree, social class, and, more importantly, exposure to and alignment with British/Western values, whether acquired in the subcontinent through association with British institutions, or in this country. Afzal’s forebears worked for the British Army. Close Muslim friends of mine attended British-run schools in Pakistan before studying at Cambridge, the second generation of their family to have graduated from a British university. The background of the rape gangs, and the thinking that led them to abuse under-age girls, couldn’t be more different. Their attitudes are rooted in a culture that tells them it’s OK to have sex with minors, and that non-believers are fair game. All this is to be found in the Koran and the hadith, although their familiarity with said texts is severely limited due to their only exposure to them being recitations in Arabic, which they don’t understand.
This is Tommy Robinson talking about the Southport attack the day after it happened. Calling for calm before the riots happened.
Unherd won’t report this.
Useless rag.
https://x.com/TRobinsonNewEra/status/1818551806240157846
Twelve hours after the publication on Unherd of an article on the crimes committed in Keighley and those who tried to cover them up, and you still haven’t commented on it.
RL, the useless subscriber.
That’s because it doesn’t fit his agenda. Which is a) to say UnHerd is a Lefty rag and guilty of crimes against humanity and b) to say Tommy Robinson is god.
He’s so mono-maniac it’s rather funny. Although it does make one despair at the consequences of Care in the Community.
I’m not persuaded by any of this, really.
Elon Musk isn’t really comparable to Enoch Powell or indeed any past political figure. He’s something of a black swan – but politically speaking he might be a black swan in a good way or a very bad way for all I know, we don’t know yet how his sudden entry to politics is going to play out. I’m not even wholly sure he has any medium term interest in politics at all and that he mightn’t just leave halfway through any given political campaign, or blow up his rapport with Trump with a single carelessly-worded tweet after one too-many tokes on a saturday night.
I still admire Elon Musk and I have a genuine interest in seeing if he actually might succeed in making the American government more efficient, because anything that works over there will probably also help with the UK’s catastrophic debt trajectory too. But he is not a serious political figure and it’s silly to pretend that he is. This might in fact be actually necessary in order for him to succeed: he’s outside the professional political community, has no loyalty to the state’s internal machine, and can focus ruthlessly on the solution irrespective of its effect on the producer interest.
How far Trump will go with him on this journey is the problem, in my opinion. Not far enough, I’m guessing.
The ” overwhelming malaise” is real. It was caused by about twenty five years of socialism, infecting every part of the UK’s body. It is a deadly virus, made much worse by the covert appeasement of organised islam and the pandering to every wild eyed left wing notion going at the time.
There is one chance to redeem it and it’s a long shot. Reform are incomplete, flawed and unready. They will be unready in four years time too, but so are this rabble in charge now
But Reform are not socialist, and are very happy to say so. It’s them or dead decline
Free Tommy Robinson!
Ike shutting down Suez adventure is the single most decisive action by a US president on 75 yrs. Because it chastised “allies” who wrote a check USA was going to have to cover. Still can’t figure out why UK and France let themselves get sucked in by Israel.
Bretton Woods breach had to happen. We’ve all been dealing with it since.
Iraq was a war crime committed by Cheney. Still dont know why Blair tagged along.
UK has caused most of its own problems. As do most govts
I thought the U.K, not Israel, where the one who sucked the others in. The initiative came from Prime Minister Eden.
Wasn’t the rationale behind Suez that Europe’s oil supply would be at risk by Egypt’s control of the Canal?
As for Blair…not rich before…certainly is now…obviously coincidental…
Really good article as it feels more accurate and true than any of the articles written about the 2024 political history. 5-10 years from now is when things should really kick off, oh boy, we better buckle up.
Adventurism, imperialism and colonialism once made Britain “Great.” Having relinquished both while apologetically colonizing itself in the process, the nation has lost its economic and cultural raison d’être. It’s time for Britain’s leadership to reclaim its greatness—much as Trump and Musk are striving to do for the USA—or risk fading into the ash heap of history, like a lit piece of paper dropped into the void, shrinking smaller and smaller until it vanishes completely.
Interesting, and yes the only ones leading from the ‘Right’ at this time are Trump and Musk.
Surely the Tory Party will break up, as those on the right, a minority, are forced to leave the party to the One Nation Tories.
Will they join Reform or launch a new party of the right, only time will tell.
Fasten your seat belts we are in for one hell of a ride.
You really should have listened to Enoch Powell back in 1968. You would have saved us all an immense amount of pain.
Despite having taken 28 per cent and come second at Amber Valley, Alex Stevenson was suspended from Reform UK after he put up council candidates including supporters of Stephen Yaxley-Lennon. Yesterday, Stevenson and 11 other councillors at various levels in that Reform target seat seceded from the party, which is being torn apart by the question of what to do about “Tommy Robinson”. From solitary confinement, he is one of the two most influential men on the British Right. The other is neither a British citizen nor resident in this country.
Elsewhere in the East Midlands, Councillor Dawn Justice, who in November loudly defected from the Conservative Party to Reform, has teamed up with the remaining Conservative, Councillor Philip Rostance, to form the Opposition Group, led by Councillor Rostance, who will be entitled to an extra £5,825 per year. That council is Ashfield, the constituency of Lee Anderson, Reform’s Chief Whip.
Yes read those stories this morning. The ‘further’ Right will pull itself apart as the crack pots make life impossible for others to remain adjacent. Predictable.
An article of great interest! However, I strongly disagree to the entirely British terminology of “New-Right” and “New-Left”. The underlying ideas and values are the same. It’s the time that is new. “The times they are a changing” as Bob Dylan put it.
Tom Nairn really saw the ideological foundation of the new politics of the Right. Powell was the leader of the Right then emerging to fill the void created by the failures of the old consensual conservatism (?) typified by Harold Macmillan and his protege Ted Heath.
Most things have changed except profound ideas and values. The scenery has changed, and the actors are different, but the play is simply the same. The Right is the Right although it can appear in various shapes (were Harold Mcmillan and Ted Heat true conservatives?) and the same goes for the Left.
However, more important is that the persons articulating the Right and Left are all objects of their times of formation, victims you might say of the spirit of their time or better the German word “Zeitgeist”. Enoch Powell of the forties, Donald Trump of the sixties, Nigel Forage of the eighties and Musk of the later decenniums. As Paul Simon put it “after changes upon changes we are more or less the same”.
“It demands new ideologies on Left and Right to replace the glaringly inadequate answers offered by most mainstream politicians today — including Farage, who has yet to shed his loyalty to the old Thatcherite answers of his youth.”
It is certainly so that what we have been offered by political leaders for some decades has been utterly inadequate but I wonder at the dig at Thatcherism.
We have forgotten for decades that there’s no such thing as a free lunch and that the state can do little to make our lives better. Thatcher’s policies (and Reagan’s too) had mixed results and some lost out but decades of social democracy have failed; they have made most of us poorer and harmed the young who can barely afford a place to live. I suggest that the policies of those years at least pointed us in a wiser direction.
I don’t think Elon is the new Enoch.
More to follow ☺️
My feeling is that we are in an entropic dialectic between the Left and the Right which feels like an uncomfortable vicious circle of contempt and anguish which is dysfunctionally intertwining with our Christian values of Truth (Holy Father), Love (Holy Son) and Power (Holy Spirit).
We might say, the antagonistic relationship between the Left and the Right is because of different value systems with the Left leaning into the progressive value system of “Diversity, Equality and Inclusion” and the Right leaning into the Christian value system of “Truth, Love and Power”.
The Muslim community I think is underpinned by the value system of “wasat” which forms a trinity between justice, balance and goodness. This Islamic value system could correspond with the Christian value of “Power” but in its contemporary application is probably closer to DEI compared to Truth, Love and Power which I think are more entangled with science and atheism.
I think a common trait between the Progressive and the Islam value system is that they seem to share a predisposition toward moralising over others who are seen as being in a state of apostasy in relation to these value systems.
However, according to Newton’s Third Law of Motion, moralising will evoke a reaction which is then often labelled and stereotyped as far right especially if it is a Conservative or Populist reaction.
The action reaction tension caused by Newton’s Third Law of Motion means that parts of the Left are very hostile towards parts of the Right and visa versa, to a point that each will refuse to listen and understand the radically opposing view of the other. Eg very soft borders versus very hard borders or very soft equality laws versus very hard equality laws.
So despite the Left and the Right being inseparable ☯️ in terms of a national (bi-hemisphere brain) personality, the Left and the Right cannot seem to entirely agree on everything because of the binary differences between the two. Hence the need for free speech so that the value systems of justice, balance and goodness or diversity, equality and inclusion or truth, love and power can produce common good decisions based on a broad spectrum of data.
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I think this field of national – global value systems and its competing parts are occurring within a growing ecological imbalance between the human species and the closed ecological system of the Earth. So for me, value systems and their (is and ought) trajectories need to be assessed in terms of their ecological footprint and how the probable ecological footprint affects things like the cost of living (prices) and the material quality of life that is being experienced within our closed ecological system.
https://study.com/academy/lesson/why-is-earth-a-closed-system.html#:~:text=While%20the%20earth%20itself%20is,open%20systems%20on%20the%20earth.
For example, the bigger the population within a closed land system like the UK, the more likely a greater proportion of the population are going to have to live in crap poor build quality flats*.
*Unfortunately, the far Left tend to call this type of systems thinking Malthusianism but actually it is thermodynamic laws applied to ecology.
I think within the different value systems, there is currently a failure to acknowledge that these human constructed value systems are embedded in a closed ecological system. So in many ways, I think the growing political impasse is because our value systems are either unfit for purpose or are not being utilised with all the relevant data.
My impression is that Progressive and Islamic value systems tend to view our closed ecological system as open with infinite possibilities to grow and expand the species. In this respect, the Christian value system might be failing because it is not utilising all relevant data in the name of Truth.
A correctly applied Christian value system might result in more efforts to conserve, care and cohere in the spirit of Love in order to thwart the decline of material quality of life and the collapse of prices as a result of consuming at a rate that is in ecological imbalance with the regenerative capacity of the Earth, with ecological imbalances causing social and economic imbalances.
However, the paradox is how the human species can live within the limits of a closed ecological system and still demonstrate “Truth, Love and Power” or “Diversity, Equality and Diversity” or “Justice, Balance and Goodness”.
This paradox seems to result in anguishing over our ecological imbalance and trying to thwart the rate of entropic decline without much success.
My impression is that each of these value systems lacks a compelling analysis of what shared moral codes to use in terms of “Love” or “Inclusion” for example. Islam seems to lack an overt unifying principle.
Interestingly I feel it is at the extremes, between the far left and the far right, that the answer to our paradox lies especially in terms of greater material equality accompanied by much harder borders.
The remedy of much harder borders is I feel because the Left wish to facilitate much higher rates of population ☯️ consumption growth through mass immigration and open borders and therefore a much higher national ecological footprint which invariably requires a much higher volume of imports which incentives foreign land, energy and materials grabbing and thus depriving foreign populations of their national resources.
The remedy of much greater material equality is I feel because the Right wishes to facilitate much higher rates of population ☯️ consumption growth through efficiency gains which includes densification, shrinkflation and productivity increases.
Within this context, I perceive the far right wishing to keep the Left’s ecologically unsustainable dynamic in check with interrelated concerns about the sustainability, resilience and sufficiency of global supply chains with an increasing domestic – import imbalance raising the probability of scarcity and the threat of how finite resources will be distributed under different value systems.
I perceive the far left wishing to keep the Right’s ecologically unsustainable dynamic in check with concerns about exploitative market relations, profit accumulation and wealth distribution.
I think it is more the far right analysis that motivated Enoch Powell with a possible understanding of thermodynamic laws within a closed ecological system and the finity and precarious nature of global supply chains as Commonwealth countries were gaining their independence.
Elon by contrast is a mixture of Left and Right thinking with his dreams of an open system existence beyond Earth to sustain population -consumption growth by deploying the power of technology to increase the efficiency of finite land, energy and materials. Hence rather than wishing to keep the national population – consumption imbalance in check, he seems to be more interested in facilitating higher rates of population – consumption growth in order to finance his extraterrestrial dreams.
This I think is a type of luxury automated capitalism so rather than being far right, I’d guess his recent rape gang intervention was coming from a more liberal perspective rather than a conservative one. So I wouldn’t personally consider him a Powellite other than perhaps using that as a gaming strategy to put a wedge between himself and Nigel Farage by out Powelling him so to speak. But personally I think he was only warning of disorder because the gang rape of vulnerable girls as an extreme form of misogyny is an affront to the liberal American values of life, freedom and happiness.
Consequently , I personally think he was more within a diversity, equality and inclusion value system and that in some ways he was woking the woke but from a more All Lives Matter perspective rather than anticipating the effects of national ecological overshoot.
Overall, I think how the Left Right dynamic will play out is dependent on the extent to which it is acknowledged that as a species, we live in a closed ecological system. If acknowledged, then value systems will be applied from a perspective of ecological realism. If not acknowledged, then value systems will be applied from a perspective of ecological idealism.
I think Enoch Powell was an ecological realist whereas Elon Musk is an ecological idealist.
With acknowledgement I’d expect better more holistic decisions tending towards sustainability, resilience and sufficiency but without acknowledgement I’d expect poorer reductionist decisions tending towards instability, fragility and scarcity.
So I think the way we behave and organise ourselves politically will be reflecting whether we are an ecological realist or an ecological idealist and how these respective perspectives informs our value systems.
If we acknowledge that we exist within a closed ecological system, then I think our value systems will tend towards sustainability, resilience and sufficiency outcomes. If we don’t acknowledge we exist within a closed ecological system, then I think our value systems will tend towards unstable, fragile and scarcity outcomes.
#UnityandDiversity
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Solutions? Alternatives? Alas, nothing but critique.
Yet another Unherd article ignoring all of Britain’s problems.
Just nore pointless waffle.
Another weird article from McTague.
Slander Robinson and then praise Enoch Powell. It’s all the wrong way round.
What it does achieve is to mix up ideas, people from the past and the present, and so confuse everyone. And who benefits from this in the UK? Starmer and the Left. Their ship sails on quite happily while McTague muddies the water all around it.
IMO history proved Powell wrong on identity as negative causation in the Western sphere of influence. We are more diverse and inclusive than in Powell’s era. Nut-jobs still rage about skin color and others religions BUT EDL, Aryan Brotherhood & maybe Vox aside these outfits are generally left wing and/or fundamentalist Moslem. They are dangerous – i consider them criminally insane. Like the poor dangerous people will always exist and society will have to deal with them, or face disaster. They seem to draw support from certain sections of the public. Its easy to see why drug enthusiasts (altered brain chems) and students (same as druggies but less brain to begin with) are two such sections. De-coupling them from their heroes is probably the best way to treat them. Most will grow out of it. I realise this isn’t quite so easy with EG teachers’ Trades Unions. Grown adults in so called “responsible” jobs backing the Hamas atrocities of Oct 23 whilst working with developing young minds does present a big problem. Most journalists are similar. Lord Haw-Haw’s execution was i think deserved and i guess that’s where this is headed. Not pretty but a lot more civilised than these types deserve considering they are trying the Assad Pinochet method to coin a phrase.
Musk is not the leader of anything. Of course he is very clever, but so was Hannibal Lecter (or the real-life guy he was based on). Cleverness does not give you automatic authority over every aspect of life. He might be highly successful as an entrepreneur, but his moral compass is way off. He meddles in politics, but his limited experience is evident in everything he says and does. He uses a credibility and power gained in the business world to try to wield influence in societies and cultures he plainly does not understand. Indeed much of what he says is just embarassingly ignorant. He gives the impression of one of those bored incel chaps in his bedroom firing off rants about anything that takes his fancy. Trump will fire him when he starts to over-shadow the boss, and history will be the uflattering judge of his political consequence.
Because feeble mainstream media including Unherd (stupid name) will do anything to avoid asking the real questions. They will spin out waffle like this writer.
UK is in a mess you say, but your rag won’t criticise any of the Left’s ideas or Starmer who epitomises them all.
Disgraceful Unherd
We get this pap from the same media-vomit-outlet that spins against Tommy Robinson and then starts reminiscing about of all people Enoch Powell.
This is rubbish.
Please find some decent journalists.
A real question I will ask.
Why does Unherd support Badenoch and protect Starmer both at the same time?
Musk is not one of “our American cousins”. He’s South African, through and through.
What is the significance of your report that Musk is “South African ,through and through”? The USA is a land of immigrants. Eight of the”signers” of the Declaration of Independence were born abroad. Henry Kissinger was born in Germany.
Is it simply that you don’t like white South Africans as a matter of irrational stereotype? If there is a deeper explanation to your statement, would you care to elucidate?
I suspect MM implying Elon grew up with the benefits of Apartheid to his kin and with the prejudices that underpinned that. Give me a child at 7 and I’ll show you the man etc.
Given considerable portions of US had a form of apartheid too until mid 60s he has natural constituency there even if at the sub conscious level. Until of course the fact he’s v happy with immigration to reduce his need to invest in US workers and to weaken their rights seeps into the consciousness of the MAGA core.
Musk doesn’t sound American when he speaks, and doesn’t have American attitudes to anything. He is entirely a product of South Africa, with all that entails. It is true that I don’t like white South Africans of the Apartheid era, but that isn’t a blind prejudice, as it comes from knowing rather too many of them (after they destroyed their country, rather a lot of them came here to Australia). Musk has always struck me as an extreme example of them (although he is rather creepier and weirder than most of them).
I agree, we get a lot of Saffas in NZ as well and they’re a pain in the arse. Really not easy lads to get along with
Interesting* to hear Antipodeans condemn white South Africans with no hint of self reflection on the fate of the original human inhabitants of either Australia or New Zealand.
*Not really.
Yes,it’s astonishing , isn’t it ?At least we white South Africans didn’t commit wholesale slaughter of the native populations . As a matter of fact , the native black population has kept on growing . Look at the census information.
Amazing isn’t it. And they sit there smugly lobbing insults. No self-reflection at all.
I’ll assume you can point to numerous examples of this wholesale slaughter of the Māori population, if it’s as common as you claim
Let me ask you this – do you still live in South Africa, or are you one of the cowards that ran away overseas the minute the ANC took over?
With regard to Antipodeans:
Aboriginal people are believed to have arrived in Australia between 45,000 and 65,000 years ago. The exact date is still being debated as new evidence is discovered.
Whereas New Zealand has a shorter human history than almost any other country. The date of first settlement is a matter of debate, but current understanding is that the first arrivals came from East Polynesia between 1250 and 1300 CE. It was not until 1642 that Europeans became aware that the country even existed.
You mean the Māori that have had full rights as British (and later NZ) citizens? There were certainly some skirmishes and battles fought between Mairi and the Crown, and nobody will argue that they weren’t mistreated at times, but it’s nothing compared to the treatment inflicted on the black population of South Africa under apartheid.
However the historical actions of various nations is irrelevant to the point I was making, which was how generally unlikeable and ignorant I’ve found many ex pat South Africans to be
Still no evidence of self reflection and self examination. I would imagine that most historians and sociologists would consider European colonisation of New Zealand an absolute disaster for the native population as exemplified by the flagrant flouting of the Treaty of Waitangi by Europeans. Land loss, population decimation and cultural suppression of the Maori peoples were the hallmarks of colonialism. Moari people did so well, economically speaking, in the nineteenth and twentieth centuries, didn’t they? I always get the sense that New Zealanders, and indeed Canadians lest we forget that important part of the Anglophone world, believe that they alone are the “good and righteous”peoples of the world. Just maybe, possibly, you’re not better than anybody else.
Yes , probably because we keep on kicking your ass on the rugby field.
I’ve no interest in a sport that’s simply an excuse for public schoolboy toffs to touch each other up in the scrum. I’m a football and cricket man
We all know that the racists went to New Zealand and Australia. Sorry for you. Bye.
Billy Bob, are you at least fooling yourself?
In what way?
Nasty, bigoted, racist perspective. Prejudice – blind or sighted.
I can only assume you don’t know many of them.
Destroyed their country? You idiot, the country is being destroyed by the government they fled from.
Apartheid was pure, unadulterated evil.
A down-vote? I might have guessed there were some apartheid apologists on UnHerd!
He had a particularly difficult upbringing and there were no emeralds in the drawers. Maybe take the time to do a long read on him before jabbering on media?
A particularly difficult upbringing? He was White in S Africa. Tell that sob story to the millions who did have a particularly difficult upbringing in that Country.
That said on listening to his parents he clearly wasn’t blessed in that department.
Not McTague’s strongest. Bit of a muddle and the need to write to order sometimes shows through.
Factually one could argue the Riots seen in a number of cities in 81 worse than those last Summer. McTague probably too young to remember.
The general contention about how UK manages an inevitable gradual decline to a place of calmer equilibrium being a real challenge for us concur. We of course have hastened it with Brexit mirage and dishonesty in public policy protected and infantalised by a largely Right wing media.
As regards Elon – listened to a recent interview with his Father and then later his Mother too. Jeez explains alot. One could sense his Father still pines for his days of Apartheid and young Elon could never be wrong in his Mother’s eyes. Thus we end up with a man of considerable brilliance, but arrogant and full of his own self importance at ease with a racial hustle when he sees advantage. Just whilst on our dear Elon, I heard he’s allegedly had quite a bit of gender reaffirming surgery – chin, hair etc, and various. Although the Ozempic seems to be neutralised by weed and gluttony.
I once read a comment by Elon’s mother, to the effect that the reason that he was bullied at school was because he was the smallest and the youngest. However, my guess is that it was because he was the creepiest and the weirdest.
Yes, many equate smartest with weirdness.
I know many smart people. Elon may be smart, but he is creepy and weird beyond the range of ordinary mortals.
You are truly an ignorant moron
Oh. Why do you think Elon was bullied at school then?
Thing about those who are bullied young is they either develop a detestation for that behaviour and characterise the rest of their life fighting against it or they look to flip the approach in a form of revenge and the need to always be the oppressor not the oppressed. It seems clear which way Elon swung. We all have agency. He’s made his choice.