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Peter Johnson
Peter Johnson
9 days ago

The power Musk wields is simply persuasive. He isn’t a threat to democracy. He is not much different than an Archbishop in the 40’s, a newspaper baron in the 60’s or Ted Turner in the 80’s. I think the difference is that all of the above were still part of a larger cabal that more or less agreed on the major narratives that were permissible in public discourse. In a very real way the control of the narrative became much more tightly held with the social media monopolies starting the 2000’s – right up until Musk blew it apart with his purchase of Twitter and its new anything goes mantra. Far from being anti-democratic – I think he is empowering democracy. For example the Democrats didn’t try any funny business this election cycle because they knew they couldn’t get away with it without the support of all the tech platforms. Another point about Musk is that no one is ever prepared to take his motivation at face value. He is a self interested billionaire for sure – but maybe he also actually believes in freedom of speech and democracy. I think he does. He may not be perfect – but he is far far better than an internet controlled by the Democratic Party and the US Deep State, and various authoritarian progressive governments. Finally – like a lot of people – he is probably heartbroken by what has become of the UK. Videos of people literally being arrested for sending out a mean tweets to their 17 followers do not sit well with me or many people. The Pakistani rape gangs and their institutional enablers are a symptom of deep deep rot. Something is seriously wrong with the UK. Musk is just pointing that out. If that changes the outcomes of elections then that is a good thing.

j watson
j watson
9 days ago
Reply to  Peter Johnson

Major omission in your suggestion – the Archbishop wasn’t a Billionaire with the President needing money beholden to them.
Musk apart, the campaign financing in the US is a form of corruption. It’s why the MAGA are beginning to realise other than a few bones chucked to them regarding some deportations the Billionaires have suckered them.
You’ll note Musk somewhat quieter about the genocide and abuse of the Uyghurs in China? Wonder why – could it be he wants to sell some cars? What a trooper. Pick on Jess Phillips instead who’s stood up to Islamists in halls and meeting centres. What a pathetic tub of lard he’s become.

Jim Veenbaas
Jim Veenbaas
9 days ago
Reply to  j watson

In America, billionaire influence is a fact of life. There’s plenty of them in the left as well.

j watson
j watson
8 days ago
Reply to  Jim Veenbaas

There’s no real Left in the US JV. What they call Left we might call more Centre-Right.

JR Stoker
JR Stoker
8 days ago
Reply to  j watson

Read anything by Hillary, or Bernie, or AOC, or…. But you obviously haven’t if you think there is no Left in the USA

UnHerd Reader
UnHerd Reader
8 days ago
Reply to  j watson

You are at least 50 years out of date. When were you last there?

Peter B
Peter B
8 days ago
Reply to  j watson

The difference for me is that Musk has earned any respect he gets. He made his own way in life without any handouts. Compare and contrast with someone like ex-Archbishop Welby who was appointed to his job.
Musk is wrong about many things. But he’s also proved himself right on many occasions. Some people prefer straight talking to platitudes and can deal with the tradeoffs.
You can also “turn off” Musk. If you don’t like it, don’t watch or listen. You can’t get rid of people like Welby.
If you think Musk is a hypocrite, I do indeed raise you Jess Phillips.

Tony Price
Tony Price
8 days ago
Reply to  Peter B

“He made his own way in life without any handouts”. Really? Didn’t his parents own a gemstone mine? And how abut Trump – how far would he have got without his inherited millions? Are you saying that only entrepreneurs are worthy of anything, and that those who work for other people and rise up that way are worthless? “…can’t get rid of people like Welby” – didn’t we just get rid of him? What power do we have to sideline Musk – NONE!

Peter B
Peter B
8 days ago
Reply to  Tony Price

“We” didn’t get rid of Welby. We had no say in the matter.
You don’t have to buy Musk’s products and services. You get no choice about state subsidies to the C of E (e.g. favourable tax arrangements).

Emma Davies
Emma Davies
6 days ago
Reply to  Tony Price

Musk also spent pretty much all of his profit from the sale of paypal on making SpaceX viable, which meant the US didn’t have to use Russia or China to get their astronauts into space anymore. You can quibble over how the guy got started in business but you can’t deny the man’s business acumen and guts.

Carlos Danger
Carlos Danger
5 days ago
Reply to  Tony Price

No, Elon Musk’s parents didn’t own a gemstone mine.

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5 days ago
Reply to  Carlos Danger

Emerald mine in Zambia in the 1980s

Carlos Danger
Carlos Danger
3 days ago
Reply to  0 0

Yeah, right. Do you have some evidence for that statement? Or did you just read it somewhere and take it on faith?

Michael Askew
Michael Askew
8 days ago
Reply to  Peter B

Justin Welby had a successful secular career before becoming proving himself as a leader in the Anglican church. He has also done the decent thing by resigning. Why attack him or complain about his path to distinction?

glyn harries
glyn harries
8 days ago
Reply to  Peter B

Lol “He made his own way in life without any handouts” This is massively untrue. I suspect most Musk supporters ignore is silver-spoon upbringing.

Andrew Vanbarner
Andrew Vanbarner
6 days ago
Reply to  glyn harries

Musk’s father was a moderately successful engineer with a small business. There no evidence of Musk pere ever owning a gemstone mine, nor was he a multimillionaire.

j watson
j watson
8 days ago
Reply to  Peter B

‘…has become’ was the phrase. He clearly has some genius but as the saying goes the Good Lord usually gives those with incredible talent some incredible deficits to balance too. And he’s showing that truism and we need to have the capacity to differentiate and call it out when we see it.
As regards Phillip’s hypocrisy, I’m not sure what you are referring to, but Elon will be way out ahead in that. Free speech advocate who won’t say a sausage to the CCP and also not adverse to cancelling some of those criticising him personally on X for a start.

Dougie Undersub
Dougie Undersub
8 days ago
Reply to  j watson

Why should Musk say to the CCP the things you want him to say? That would be compelled speech.

Tyler Durden
Tyler Durden
8 days ago
Reply to  Peter B

He made some good investments with a lot of family money. Befriending P Thiel was his biggest move.

Hugh Bryant
Hugh Bryant
8 days ago
Reply to  j watson

I’ll ask you again: how many of the public sector employees who enabled this criminality have been called to account? Obfuscate all you like – but that is what matters. Is your partisanship so extreme that you’re willing to sacrifice all these children in order to protect those people simply because they share your statist ideology?

j watson
j watson
8 days ago
Reply to  Hugh Bryant

If you spent a bit of time reading the Jay Report you’d have a better idea HB, but you haven’t. Too difficult? You’re unserious about the issue and only raising now to use as a weapon. There a good many similar who when the Right was in power for 14yrs said v little. Thus one could contend the Right partook in an extended cover-up, if a cover-up is what one believes had happened.

UnHerd Reader
UnHerd Reader
8 days ago
Reply to  j watson

You know what really pisses me off more than almost anything? People who use “partake” when they mean “participate”. Why is it so often the pig-ignorant who demand to be heard?

Hugh Bryant
Hugh Bryant
7 days ago
Reply to  UnHerd Reader

Yes, that’s annoying. Almost as annoying as people who leave the verb out of their (badly constructed) sentences and use abbreviations like ‘v little’ because they think it makes them seem busy and important.

Hugh Bryant
Hugh Bryant
8 days ago
Reply to  j watson

Show us where these guilty people are named in the Jay report and describe the recommendations made related to them.

glyn harries
glyn harries
8 days ago
Reply to  Hugh Bryant

One can note that none of the police, nor Directors in Social Care in local authorities have indeed been bought to book over this massive CSE scandal without thinking that Elon Musk is one of the good guys.

Lesley Keay
Lesley Keay
8 days ago
Reply to  j watson

Sorry but Jess Phillips is gobshite who is very happy to call other people names. I am sorry if hurty words on the internet bother her more than the issue with young girls being gang-raped. And as for Musk speaking out about the Uyghurs, I have no idea if he has or hasn’t but I also haven’t heard much from Phillips and her fellow MPs. In fact, Starmer and Lammy are quite happy to try and get the Chinese to invest money in the UK. And Starmer and co quite happy to have private talks with the likes of Bill Gates and Blackrock. So please, hold your contempt for Musk. He at least is in the open where we can all see and hear him.

M Harries
M Harries
6 days ago
Reply to  Lesley Keay

One lot who aren’t complaining about the Chinese treatment of the Uighurs are the Pakistani Muslims. I don’t see any demonstrations complaining about what’s happening to the Uighers anywhere on the planet. To me this is due to their racist attitude towards the British and Europeans.

The truth is that Uighur children are twisted into being indoctrinated into Islam at mosques and madrassahs, just like in Britain. But Britain also funds Muslim state schools! The Chinese are trying to untwist that indoctrination through their ‘re-education’ scheme. If there was a British or European referendum on pursuing such a policy, a majority (currently while Muslims are in the minority) would vote for the same policy.

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5 days ago
Reply to  Lesley Keay

‘Free speech absolutionist’ except when it comes to China, where his business interests might be impacted. So not so much of an absolutionist then.

John Ellis
John Ellis
5 days ago
Reply to  0 0

Free speech absolutism means allowing everyone to have a say about anything. It doesn’t mean being obligated to say something about everything.

Musk may well be holding his tongue on several aspects of China’s behaviour for commercial reasons. He’s not stopping you having your say on them though, is he?

Michael Lucken
Michael Lucken
4 days ago
Reply to  Lesley Keay

IThe lovely sensitive Jess. I remember her laughing in response to a question about male victims of domestic abuse. During a govt select Committee. She can certainly dish it out.

Dougie Undersub
Dougie Undersub
8 days ago
Reply to  j watson

Jess sold the pass. She stood up to men but wouldn’t call them out as Muslim men. And still won’t.

Dennis Roberts
Dennis Roberts
9 days ago
Reply to  Peter Johnson

“The power Musk wields is simply persuasive. He isn’t a threat to democracy”

Democracy is based on persuasion…

Jane Hewland
Jane Hewland
8 days ago
Reply to  Dennis Roberts

Well then those who disagree with him and his influence will simply have to be more persuasive than he is.

Terry M
Terry M
8 days ago
Reply to  Peter Johnson

Exactly. And
It was the actions of such a prince — Elon Musk — that tipped last November’s Presidential election for Trump, first by buying Twitter (now X) and then by triggering a preference cascade that moved several other tech princes to the Trump side.
Mary misses the mark. Musk was evolving into a MAGA supporter and it just took time for him to express his intentions. He probably dissuaded as many ‘eat-the-rich’, envious, narrow-minded Progressives as he pursuaded on the right. The other tech gurus are merely acting in their own selfish interest, fearing the wrath of Trump. They will kiss the boots of the next Prez when Trump is gone.

Jerry Carroll
Jerry Carroll
8 days ago
Reply to  Terry M

Not only their boots.

UnHerd Reader
UnHerd Reader
8 days ago
Reply to  Terry M

I do think Elon is a little bit different from other tech princes. Remember when Walt Disney and others coerced then on twitter. He could have bent the knee and change. He went on national TV and said F.U to the surprise of many. Respect is earned through action.

Ian Johnston
Ian Johnston
8 days ago
Reply to  UnHerd Reader

That was the moment I fell in love with Elon Musk.

The look on the face of the interviewer hack next to him when he muttered those immortal words was the universe cracking.

“What, you mean not EVERYTHING is about money?!”

Yeah, bruv. When you’re the richest man on the planet, it isn’t.

Ken Davison
Ken Davison
8 days ago
Reply to  Peter Johnson

Excellent responce Peter

Arthur G
Arthur G
8 days ago
Reply to  Peter Johnson

Musk has also stated that he believes that if Biden/Harris won, the Gov’t would destroy his businesses and he’d end up in jail. His breaking the social-media stranglehold of the left has enraged “Progressives” and the Democratic apparatchiks.
Given the threats against his Federal contracts, and the lawfare against Trump and his supporters, I’m inclined to agree with him. The US Democratic party would love to be able to suppress dissent like Starmer & Trudeau & Co.

Philip L
Philip L
8 days ago
Reply to  Arthur G

There are good reasons that his contracts generate security concerns. Having one of the Dept. of Defense’s largest contractors chatting with Putin every few weeks may be harmless- but it would be negligent if there was no scrutiny. Now, there won’t be, unless it is by his Bannonite rivals.

Susan Grabston
Susan Grabston
8 days ago
Reply to  Arthur G

Thank you. As my grandma says “money spraks all languages”. Musk’s intervention is as likely to be a commercial calculation, as a belief that Trump is the leader the US requires (his support came our 3 hours after Butler). Helen and Tom’s These Times podcast today asks “who is musk?”. Worth listening to – an altogether more cynical take on his neo-liberal assaults, including the Meloni “love in” and this week’s Starlink deal.

mike otter
mike otter
8 days ago
Reply to  Peter Johnson

Musk is an individual and very much at risk from his opponents. It’s clear his UK opponents are happy to make alliance with knife wielding thugs, rape gangs and ofc hostile foreign forces eg Hamas. Not sure about USA – certainly the left are in bed with some very unsavoury Lat Am drug gangs and maybe the street addicts/robbers in their own cities.- I think the UK is starting to show elements of the mass psychosis one sees in NKorea, early Khomenei Iran and 1930s Germany. USA possibly not on a collective level but there’s enough nuts with automatic weapons. I met a guy in Britain recently who swears blind that Trump is a mobster not a leisure and property business owner. Same guy claimed that rainfall comes from glaciers and snow and not at all from evaporated seawater. The guy is retired, white, comfortably off and worked most of his life for an oil production firm. Not able to debate such issues ( left school at UK version of 8th Grade) he explained this must be true because the BBC and Newspapers said so. You’d expect a lot of gen x, y, z or whatever to be gullible and intellectually impaired but this virus seems to infect all ages. We oldies haven’t got an excuse as we were brought with a free press, public libraries and access to the wisdom of our elders.

Carissa Pavlica
Carissa Pavlica
8 days ago
Reply to  Peter Johnson

People like George Soros have done it for a lifetime. They were just moving behind the shadows until recently. I hate the idea of lobbying. Everything being done behind closed doors without allowing an entry is frightening to the people, but Musk is out in public, and that’s frightening to leadership. Musk is giving people a chance to participate in these machinations which is entirely new. We didn’t vote for any of them but now it seems like we have a voice. We shall see how it all plays out.

Andrew Holmes
Andrew Holmes
8 days ago

If not unions, businesses, nurses, teachers, environmentalists, academics, and any and every other interest group pressing their interests, that is, lobbying, how will our legislators get the information necessary to make reasoned decisions? One possibility is polling, which reflects current passions, and I think worse than lobbying.

Christopher Chantrill
Christopher Chantrill
9 days ago

Come to Seattle, Mary Harrington, and I’ll put on a seminar about The Most Unjust Ruling Class in History. I mean of course the educated class that has dominated and despoiled us and driven us into the killing fields for the last century and more.
Really, those feudal lords and Grand Dukes weren’t so bad after all. For one thing, they weren’t much into World Wars.
I understand Elon not as a feudal lord but as a Great Man helping to destroy the monstrous and unjust culture of Mass Media and replace it with the hope of Independent Media. And if he gets to Occupy Mars on the way, so much the better.

Jack Robertson
Jack Robertson
9 days ago

Spot on.
What a massive, three-generation grift the dominance of ‘Virtuals’ has been. No coincidence that it began with the ‘cultural revolution’ of the sixties, which of course wasn’t any ‘revolution’ at all, just the beginning of the Age of Narcissism. (What is a ‘Virtual’ but a self-interested sociopathic solipsist with a mass media platform; AKA a Boomer ‘cultural revolutionary’ with a smart device.)
The Age of Narcissism has disguised the street hustle with posh labels – ‘social democracy’, ‘progressive politics’, ‘liberal intellectual plurality’, what-ever – but really the post-WW2 ‘consensus’ in the West has been nothing more sustantial or noble than…the self-serving hijacking of the Village’s Tribal Talking Stick, by an unrepresenative and self-perpetuating cadre of opportunist secular priests: the Triumph of the Empty But Eloquent. Journalism, academia, politics, public service, NGOs, growing wodges of the corporate realm…defacto taxpayer-funded Village ‘me-me-me activists’ of all kinds have progressively colonised the abstract realm, and re-tooled it as one of real applied power, not to mention quickly seized and maintained privilege. I don’t know of a single ‘progressive’ leader over my lifetime, in any field, who isn’t…stinking f**king rich today.
And they wonder why the world doesn’t trust all the ‘peace and love and fairness’ bullsh*t that has fuelled their rise to becoming – spot on again – the ‘Most Unjust Ruling Class in History‘. Their profoundly mendacious post-war construction of a Virtuals’ Ivory Palace – viciously defended by its Praetorian Guard, that ‘monstrous and unjust culture of Mass Media’ – has exploited, abandoned and stranded the Village ‘Physicals’, untethering their own powerful virtuality from an increasingly powerless (but no less real for it) material reality. Inevitably, to the point where – surprise, surprise – we Physicals have now had the f**k enough.
We are sick of the Virtuals’ fanciful and careless abstractions, p*ssed down on us from their Ivory Palace. Elon Musk – and in his way, Donald Trump (his voters) – is just our means for saying to the world’s ‘Virtuals’: Get a real f**king job, you hypocritical Village freeloaders and scam-artists. One connected to, and which adds value to, the material Village we all live in – not simply your personal Ivory Palace of lucrative words. Get a real job, in the real Village, Virtuals.
Or shut your grifting eloquent gobs, pack up your snake oils and your freeloading privileges. And f**k off out of our Village.

Dennis Roberts
Dennis Roberts
9 days ago

So you haven’t noticed Trump’s comments on Greenland, the Panama canal or Canada? UnHerd is being very quiet about them too.

Andrew R
Andrew R
8 days ago
Reply to  Dennis Roberts

He only annouced that yesterday, give it time.

Dennis Roberts
Dennis Roberts
8 days ago
Reply to  Andrew R

It’s been rumbling away for weeks, merely restated yesterday, and personally I’d expect vague threats from the US to NATO allies to be worth mentioning.

Andrew R
Andrew R
8 days ago
Reply to  Dennis Roberts

No op-ed piece on The Guardian so far, or are they being very quiet too?

Dennis Roberts
Dennis Roberts
8 days ago
Reply to  Andrew R

I don’t read it

Terry M
Terry M
8 days ago
Reply to  Dennis Roberts

As Trump often does, he is expressing blue-sky dreams that have no possibility of actually being enacted. However, mentioning these things makes people consider their options for deflecting such imagining. It’s a classic negotiation ploy used to put the other side off their game. Trump is a master at this.

Cathy Carron
Cathy Carron
8 days ago
Reply to  Terry M

Trump ‘thinks big’ and imaginatively and creatively – something few if any leaders do today, perhaps excepting Putin, who miscalculated ‘bigly’. When Trump called Europe on the mat for not paying its negotiated share for NATO defense, many Europeans laughed at him. I suspect that’s not happening today.

Tony Price
Tony Price
8 days ago
Reply to  Terry M

Well Putin, Xi and other power-crazed imperialist dictators around the world must be very happy that Trump is welcoming the invasion of neighbouring sovereign states.

Dennis Roberts
Dennis Roberts
8 days ago
Reply to  Terry M

You could well be right, but are Canada, Denmark and Panama really the other side?

Simon Bannister
Simon Bannister
8 days ago
Reply to  Terry M

Agree and I’d go a bit further, seems clear the world is forming into blocks with China, Russia at the core of one block. President Trump’s view seems to be that Nations and territories will need to pick a side and form a counter block around the USA. Not sure he’s obviously wrong.

Samuel Ross
Samuel Ross
4 days ago
Reply to  Dennis Roberts

Hmm …. ?

Tony Price
Tony Price
8 days ago

I suspect that you haven’t much studied history. ‘Feudal lords and Grand Dukes’ kept the world in almost constant war in their power and money struggles. They ‘weren’t much into world wars’ because they didn’t have the geographical spread of influence required, however if you look at the imperial dominations of Alexander, Rome, Persia, Genghis Khan etc they were pretty much worldwide in their sphere, and of course the Seven Years War of the mid-18thC is usually described as ‘the first world war’.

It’s the ‘educated class’ which has tried to extricate the world from constant warfare, sadly with limited success. At least most of Europe has moved beyond permanent warfare although Putin (does he count as educated?) is doing his best to drag us back into hell.

Rocky Martiano
Rocky Martiano
8 days ago
Reply to  Tony Price

“It’s the ‘educated class’ which has tried to extricate the world from constant warfare”.
Weren’t Dubya, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Nuland, Blair & Co part of the educated class? Dubya may have spent his time at Yale partying, but I’m pretty sure that still counts as an education.

Tony Price
Tony Price
8 days ago
Reply to  Rocky Martiano

Fair enough, shall we say some of the educated class!

Ethniciodo Rodenydo
Ethniciodo Rodenydo
9 days ago

For year the public discourse has been dominated by the MSM controlled by the elites.
We got to hear about only what they wanted us to hear about, what the did not want us to hear about got suppressed or spun to oblivion.
With Musk on the scene the elite control of the discourse is under serious challenge and they have completely lost their heads. Their deny, deflect, dissemble, divide and denounce tactic is no longer effective. It is a joy to watch and long my it continue.
God bless Elon

Lancashire Lad
Lancashire Lad
9 days ago

…and Mary Harrington.

Katharine Eyre
Katharine Eyre
9 days ago
Reply to  Lancashire Lad

She’s brilliant, I always feel like my mind has been expanded in totally unforeseen ways when I read her stuff.

Peter Shevlin
Peter Shevlin
8 days ago
Reply to  Katharine Eyre

She does appear to have been reading Varoufakis’s Techno Feudalism.

Ian Johnston
Ian Johnston
7 days ago
Reply to  Katharine Eyre

Her and Aris are worth the price of admission alone.

mike otter
mike otter
8 days ago
Reply to  Lancashire Lad

Hear hear! – i think Musk is at risk of death or long gaol time due to the hatred, intolerance and criminality of his opponents. I expect there is some risk to Mary Harrington aswell – Hilda Morrell and Dr David ?? ( the Iraq WMD whistle blower) didn’t beat, stab or drug themselves to death!

j watson
j watson
9 days ago

Total tripe. The Rich Right already controlled much of the media and now they control even more. You just struggle with any opinion beyond your own.
Which is why Elon et al are ensuring maximum pressure as they don’t like the UK and EU approach to On Line Safety – are you too stupid to not see the true motive – whilst also making sure they avoid/distract from the things that would really help the folks that may have voted for Daddy. You noted how much Trump or Musk and the rest of Billionaires club mentioned US healthcare after the recent events and reaction? Yep, Zilch. No intention of helping with the bread and butter stuff have they.

Andrew R
Andrew R
9 days ago
Reply to  j watson

Careful JW, with all that mouth foaming.

Ian Barton
Ian Barton
8 days ago
Reply to  j watson

It appears that your way of failing to “cope with opinions beyond your own” is often to insult those who raise them. Your response above seems to be a great example of the “deny, deflect, dissemble and denounce” point made above.

Rocky Martiano
Rocky Martiano
8 days ago
Reply to  j watson

Congratulations on inventing a new category of oppressors – “The Rich Right”.
The Rich Left (Bezos, Zuckerberg et al) of course have no media control whatsoever. What alternative universe are you living in? Please do not beam me up Scotty.

UnHerd Reader
UnHerd Reader
8 days ago
Reply to  j watson

Elon, along with Joe Rogan, Tulsi, RFK Jr., and Donald Trump all were once voted for the Democrat party. The left, if you prefer the Democrats, actually betrayed them.

Ethniciodo Rodenydo
Ethniciodo Rodenydo
7 days ago
Reply to  j watson

Your post is either deluded or disingenuous.
Our elite are neither truly right or left. They may cosplay from time to time but there is far more that unites than divides them.
Through the MSM they control the public narrative in order to maintain the status quo, to continue to enrich themselves, to keep the public divided and to avoid scrutiny.
There is no such thing as the right wing press. We have the BBC and the Guardian who are unashamedly left wing and who seem to set the news agenda. Of the rest, the only publications that are notionally right wing are the Telegraph and the Mail and even they toe the line when it comes to managing the public narrative.
We have all heard of Stephen Lawrence ad infinitum but how many people have heard of Kriss Donald. His murder was far more horrific but was only run by the BBC after a story on the opening of a leisure centre in Gateshead. We see Boris hounded out of office over partygate while the fact that 2 Tier was guilty much the same thing was swept under the carpet. Similarly Angela Rayner’s purchase of her council house stinks to high heaven but all we get is nothing to see here.
We have the press pile on and destroy Liz Truss within days of wining the vote to become leader of the Conservative Party and PM because the wrong candidate won. On the other hand, Rachel from customer relations lies about the job experience which supposedly qualified her for the job as chancellor, effectively breaks the tax commitments Labour gave to get elected and tanks the economy, none of which is a big deal apparently.
We see people arrested and jailed with a couple of weeks for making ill advised comments online, sometimes to just a handful of people, yet the authorities reluctantly and belatedly, under pressure from Farage, bring charges against three of our ethnic britons for assault a female police officer and breaking her nose, and this barely raises a ripple in the press
I could go on but I will cut to the current case. It is only now that I am learning about the true extent and horror of the abuse carried out by the Pakistani rape gangs, the extent to which it was covered up, and in some cases even aided and abetted, by the police, the authorities and politicians, and that victims and their families were threatened and even arrested by the police.
At the very latest, the press should have been all over this when the story first broke, but instead they down played the story and effectively buried it. I should have known better, but I assumed given the nature of the story that the reporting at the time would have been comprehensive and in depth, and that had there been any substance to the rumblings of corruption and coverup etc. it would have been right across the front page day after day. If this had happened in the Balkans, the Middle East or Africa it would have been classified as a war crime.
The story is only now starting getting the coverage it merits thanks to Musk so once again God bless Elon.
As for you, since you could not really challenge the righteousness of his actions it seems you decided the next best thing was an ad hominem attack. What did Musk come to you in a dream and tell you that his real motive was to undermine our online safety laws or did you just make that up?
If you will excuse me, what I find particularly dumb is positioning yourself as a defender of our online safety laws. As with all such laws the clue is in the title, with the true purpose being the direct opposite of the chosen name. The Equality Act has nothing to do with equality, get it Thus the actual purpose of our online safety legislation has nothing to do with safety. The purpose is to give the authorities a tool with which to stifle dissent and suppress opposition, as those now languishing in jail for online posts will no doubt testify.
I recommend Mr Morgoth’s recent post on this issue https://morgoth.substack.com/p/our-multicultural-reactor-5?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=701286&post_id=153968771&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=true&r=hnpzm&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=email

Samuel Ross
Samuel Ross
4 days ago

Nicely said, sir.

Tony Price
Tony Price
8 days ago

So the world’s richest men (no women it seems in that cadre) are not ‘elite’? Musk has purchased his way to the top of the top table and the others of his ilk are doing their best to climb up the wealthy-only ladder he has exposed. Be careful what you wish for.

James Wills
James Wills
8 days ago
Reply to  Tony Price

Point well-taken, but I immediately think: Well, yes, he’s rich, but so is The Orange Man, and they seem to be the only two people on the planet fighting for the dignity of the common man. Maybe not everything in life boils down to wealth.

Ken Davison
Ken Davison
8 days ago

Bravo Ethnicidodo – yes we have to through chaos, but we have been living in the “design intent” chaos of the deep state, Bolb, and the elite class tht treat us like serf’s…

glyn harries
glyn harries
8 days ago

Jesus Christ. Musk IS one of the elite! This whole bullshit is just the elites battling for control re what levels of tax they pay, what level of control the state has. It’s frying pan into the fire stuff for the plebs.

Tony Price
Tony Price
8 days ago
Reply to  glyn harries

Careful Glyn – the Musk-lovers like to think that he is just a straight-up guy like themselves, battling those pesky murky, un-named ‘elites’ of which he can’t possibly be one as an immigrant un-educated prole himself.

Philip Hanna
Philip Hanna
8 days ago
Reply to  Tony Price

I don’t think it’s wise to blanket generalize people like that. I am both happy that musk is a person with lots of influence who also happens to be on (in my opinion) the correct side of history at the moment. But I am also weary of his wealth and his desire for power and influence, as I would be with any billionaire (trump included).

However, I also understand that even a good deed done for the wrong reasons is still a good deed.

The question for me now, is how long will it be before he gets so drunk with his own influence that he starts warping into something that we don’t want around anymore.

Trump seems to have the wherewithal to enjoy the power trip but also stay somewhat even when the rubber hits the road. Maybe that’s a function of age, having been around for a long time, he knows how to manage that in a humorous sort of way.

Musk sometimes comes across to me as that kid who was picked on his whole life, became rich, and now can’t get enough of his newfound power and influence.

I don’t know the man personally, and like I said I’m glad for the moment that he helped topple the far left, but I certainly don’t have any strong faith or trust in the man (yet). The upcoming years will determine that.

mike otter
mike otter
8 days ago
Reply to  Philip Hanna

The penultimate paragraph illustrates why the swamp dwellers are so afraid of him – he is at the very least neuro-diverse and is very rich. These two inputs alone mean he is willing to go further with risks in opposing these thieves and muderers than most people. I think Trump and Musk are going to need suffocating security unless they can return USA (and its subject states like UK) to civic order and htey do not have long to do this.

Josie Bowen
Josie Bowen
7 days ago
Reply to  Philip Hanna

I was just about to say the same.

mike otter
mike otter
8 days ago
Reply to  glyn harries

Surely you can be financially “elite” but still ethically sound?

Ethniciodo Rodenydo
Ethniciodo Rodenydo
8 days ago
Reply to  glyn harries

Not all Germans were Nazis

laurence scaduto
laurence scaduto
8 days ago

Yes.
There’s always the possibility that Musk is no longer obsessed with making MORE money. Lord knows he has enough and I would imagine that he has investments that will keep him swimming in the stuff no matter what the future brings. That’s why he’s so willing to throw away his money on Twitter.
No one wants to mention it, but it could be that there are some ‘better angels in his nature’. It might not be ‘peace and love’ but Starlink is a major improvement in millions of lives and without SpaceX the US wouldn’t have a viable space program.

UnHerd Reader
UnHerd Reader
7 days ago

Oh dear, the neo-feudal Musk is threatening the feudal oligarchy of old-line media that was completely in the bag of its government overlords. Sometimes they didn’t even have to be in the bag, they were in the bed – maritally and otherwise – with them. That system was as corrupt and self-serving as any Habsburg or Medici. That system failed the public spectacularly and burned any credibility and assumed virtue that it had through its complicity and hubris. They brought this on themselves, and Musk is the response. He may be just as bad – but someone is always going to be at the top of the system. The old princes are dead – long live the new prince!

Arthur G
Arthur G
9 days ago

Here’s the thing. The “liberal democratic order” is neither liberal nor democratic and it’s incapable or unwilling to maintain order when it’s non-whites causing the crime and violence. European countries are ruled by a narrow bureaucratic elite who actively despite their average native born citizens, and constantly try to undermine the will of the voters. The whole history of the EU is the elites ignoring the express wishes, and actual votes of the people.
When your Gov’t behaves as the UK and German Gov’ts have in ignoring the people, subverting basic civil rights, and unleashing hordes of predatory or parasitic immigrants on them, the Gov’t should be disrupted. Hell it should be overthrown.

j watson
j watson
9 days ago
Reply to  Arthur G

Ever lived anywhere outside of the liberal democratic order AG? I suspect not and I suspect you’d be running back fairly sharpish counting your blessings.

Andrew R
Andrew R
9 days ago
Reply to  j watson

Funny, aren’t we moments away from a repeat of 1930s Naz1 Germany, well that’s according to all the progressives.

Lesley van Reenen
Lesley van Reenen
8 days ago
Reply to  j watson

Have you not seen how the UK is slipsliding away from a liberal democracy? It is pathetic and sad to watch.

j watson
j watson
8 days ago

Good grief, you LVR and AR need to get out more and maybe travel a bit to real Autocracies. Are you spending too much time indoors being panicked by your media feed?

Andrew R
Andrew R
8 days ago
Reply to  j watson

No JW, once again that’ll be you.

Arthur G
Arthur G
8 days ago
Reply to  j watson

In the US we still have rights. You’ll don’t. If a person can be jailed for a nasty tweet and questioned by the police for a “non-crime” you live in an autocracy. Unless you’re Muslim, then you can do whatever you want.

Rocky Martiano
Rocky Martiano
8 days ago
Reply to  j watson

I lived for many years in Singapore. Hardly liberal and certainly not democratic in the western sense of the word. I’d leave the UK to return there in an instant if they’d let me stay.

Elena R.
Elena R.
7 days ago
Reply to  j watson

You’ve got the point. You can safely state that none of the UH commentators ever lived outside the much detested democratic order but, curiously, they tend to fall for the most brutal dictators elsewhere, praising them as moral guardians.

mike otter
mike otter
8 days ago
Reply to  Arthur G

Absolutely – UK, Fr, De, Se & Dk for sure no longer governed by consent ( government by the people for the people) They are ruled by force w/o consent. There is no legitimate government, only small minorities sitting on thrones – bit like Alawite Syria. This means they will not voluntarily relinquish power and if they lose elections will use non political means to regain it. (Weaponising diseases, allying with terrorists or drug cartels, misuse of public servants or employees of state suppliers etc etc) This puts us more peaceful grown ups who seek civil order in a difficult position. The amount of force necessary to stop these criminals may also endanger the whole socio -economic structure – Russia in 1917 and Spain in the 1930s are good examples where two mad collectivists ( Stalin & Franco) eventually emerged in charge of much depleted societies. I am hopeful the woke virus and its outriders pseudo Marxism and Violent Islam can be stopped within the rules based system. Look at your Trudeaus, Starmers, Scholz (?) etc and it doesn’t look hopeful. Yet surely there must be people who belive in Keynesian economics and a good social safety net for the poor and vulnerable who aren’t also advocates or Hamas or rape gangs? As a former lefty myself i cannot see why they want such nutters in the tent? Unless its the old US doctrine of “they’re bastards, but at least they’re our bastards”. This segues into the fact that the US war for independence and eventual declaration didn’t have the collateral damage of the French or Russian revolutions because the tyrants were seperated by 2500 miles of ocean from their victims and the hastily mobilised red-coats hearts mostly weren’t in the fight.

Dennis Roberts
Dennis Roberts
8 days ago
Reply to  Arthur G

Where have all the responses to this gone? Someone on UnHerd doesn’t seem to like free speech.

Jim Veenbaas
Jim Veenbaas
9 days ago

Oligarchs influencing the electoral process is nothing new. Recently, you had the Koch brothers on the right, Soros and Reed Hoffman on the left. At least Musk wields his influence out in the open, rather than lurking behind closed doors. If Musk wasn’t saying stuff that resonated with a huge number of voters, no one would listen. His legitimacy results not from his money and reach, but the popular support for what he says.

j watson
j watson
9 days ago
Reply to  Jim Veenbaas

Such as his eagerness to retain H-1B Visa’s so he can acquire cheaper indentured immigrant engineers and minimise how much he has to invest in training and developing Americans? Not that he’s short of a penny.
His popular support is waning. In part that’s why he’s jumped across to the ‘further Right’ with some red meat stuff. Also helps him put pressure against the On Line Safety Bill. He’s just weaponising an issue for his own gain.

Jim Veenbaas
Jim Veenbaas
9 days ago
Reply to  j watson

Isn’t debate on H-1B within the GOP a good thing? That’s what democracy is all about.

j watson
j watson
8 days ago
Reply to  Jim Veenbaas

Yes. Point being though where Elon is on the issue. And it appears Trump too.
Doesn’t look like a change coming that favours Americans more does it.

mike otter
mike otter
8 days ago
Reply to  Jim Veenbaas

Problem is the businesses need the engineers, analysts, programmers etc NOW. The left have had decades to damage the education systems in UK/Eu and to an extent US though that seemed to improve from say 1983 to 2008 before declining again since (i say this from a STEM employer’s perspective) It will take several generations to rebuild the wests’ education systems and the problem worstens now because who will teach the teachers? Also i have further concerns about some free market thinkers views on education – especially the Christian and Moslem right who ar ewary of educating women. Also remember Thatcher had a pathological dislike of education at large and educators in particular – i can see why as the UK ones were often USSR stooges but that’s no reason to stop the free milk for poor kids! Or to throw the STEM training baby out with the Communist bathwater of Michael Foot and Arthur Scargill lol

Peter B
Peter B
8 days ago
Reply to  j watson

Not sure you understand about tech hiring in the US. I’m fairly sure that Musk’s companies here primarily on quality and not on price. There isn’t the supply of sufficiently talented US born engineers. I know plenty of people that moved to the US to work in tech and they’re certainly no being exploited or underpaid. You’re also falling into the zero sum game fallacy here. Hiring the best people allows companies to grow faster and hire more people.

j watson
j watson
8 days ago
Reply to  Peter B

Train them. He’s got plenty of money.
We’re not talking about the next Albert Einstein’s getting a Visa.
He likes the indentured nature of their employment. Fewer problems. Folks need to wake up and see these examples as the veil being lifted.

Peter B
Peter B
8 days ago
Reply to  j watson

Again, you don’t understand the type of people he’s looking for. You can’t train some of these things. People either have the combination of personality, intellect, curiousity, determination, etc for these roles or they don’t. There’s simply a limited supply at the top end.

mike otter
mike otter
8 days ago
Reply to  Peter B

Plus math and structured coding skills way beyond what most UK/Eu/US institutions can supply. Look at the pay for Eu + UK academics! – you literally couldn’t get a ladder logic programmer for that money.

j watson
j watson
7 days ago
Reply to  mike otter

So the pay is better in the Asian countries from whence these H-!B visa workers are coming?
The contortions to justify Elon’s approach seem to get ever more complex.

j watson
j watson
7 days ago
Reply to  Peter B

So on that basis Nations have immigration wherever there are issues of indigenous workers lacking things like determination?
Anyway the point is if an Asian country can train the US certainly can. I don’t buy the argument at all.

Hugh Bryant
Hugh Bryant
8 days ago
Reply to  j watson

This is another straw man. Neither Musk nor Trump have ever been opposed to immigration of skilled workers. In fact it’s a central plank of their nationalist economic programme. You’re still avoiding the issue.

glyn harries
glyn harries
8 days ago
Reply to  Hugh Bryant

Indeed the irony of the elite that Musk and Trump are very much part of us much as the British ruling classes. They know who to wind the plebs up over immigration and immigrants, but operate as open door policies as they are able to do.

j watson
j watson
8 days ago
Reply to  Hugh Bryant

Here we go, a switch of position on the principle. Predictable. Were it Starmer you’d be foaming at the mouth HB.

Hugh Bryant
Hugh Bryant
8 days ago
Reply to  j watson

I have no idea what you’re talking about. Worse still, neither do you.

Ron Wigley
Ron Wigley
8 days ago
Reply to  Jim Veenbaas

Replace the word Trump for Musk and we can all see why MAGA Trump romped home in the USA election, he is popular for what he says, while the Democrats thought just loathing him and saying nothing was enough, what a surprise.

Christopher Barry
Christopher Barry
8 days ago
Reply to  Jim Veenbaas

That and the exciting rockets…

J Hop
J Hop
8 days ago

At what level of income should one shut up and distance themselves from their constitutional rights as a citizen? Or should one check in with Mary Harrington first to see if it offends her sensitibilites? Raped kids should stay quiet and it’s unethical to speak for them I guess. I didn’t realize you were a monster.

Kiddo Cook
Kiddo Cook
8 days ago

Next time , before sending emissaries to interfere in elections in a sovereign state, may be think about the consequences. You may be a big fish over here bullying and subjugating the ethnic British but, over there you’re not even a bad joke. You’re nothing.

Cantab Man
Cantab Man
9 days ago

Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama and Joe Biden are each on record lamenting the many challenges to their progressive hegemonic monopoly on generally-recognized digital distribution channel ‘authorities’. They’ve each stated that they wish we could all return to the days of the mid-20th century … when bandwidth limitations meant that only so many TV channels and radio stations existed. In their eyes, living in such a world would mean that their ‘approved’ messaging could be adequately controlled and distributed.
But to their ongoing dismay, the current progressive monopoly on ‘authority’ channels keeps getting challenged and disrupted by libertarian and conservative upstarts. We’ve all witnessed the progressive game of Wac-A-Mole that has been waged against these upstarts that defy the preferred progressive message.
New digital rules and regulations, the FBI ‘muscling in on’ and monitoring businesses, threats to businesses from Democrat Congresspeople and Presidents and so on. The “disinformation” and “misinformation” (terms that only seem to apply to these libertarian and conservative channels) had to be stopped. These new information channels were wreaking havoc as progressives’ preferred political news narratives were consistently debunked in disastrously humiliating ways.
But as with all things, when there’s a mismatch between theory – including our desires for how things should be – and reality (i.e. the truth), an arbitrage of one sort or another might be found.
George Soros made a cool billion pounds by short-selling the sterling. He made a bet that reality was different than the authority messaging from “confidence men” at the Bank of England.
Rupert Murdoch made the same bet in 1996 when he realized that powerful progressives in media organizations were trying to steer cable news messaging to fit their personal biases. So he started Fox News and widened the Overton window so that it included reality as seen by half of America.
Elon Musk is in the same mold as prior entrepreneurs. He recognized that the perception of reality, as observed by the American people, was vastly different from progressive-controlled digital distribution channels and messaging.
And this is the rub for progressives – had they allowed enough space for reality messaging, along with their progressive informercials, Elon might not have been successful with X. Instead, their messaging was deemed so distant from Americans’ perceived reality that Elon found and exploited the arbitrage between progressives’ overvalued echo-chamber theories and perceptions, and America’s undervalued reality.

Tony Price
Tony Price
8 days ago
Reply to  Cantab Man

Rupert Murdoch started Fox News in some altruistic move to widen freedom of speech? Ha ha – Murdoch has only ever been driven by the accumulation of wealth – he saw a gap in the market and placed Fox firmly there.

Cantab Man
Cantab Man
8 days ago
Reply to  Tony Price

Straw man. I didn’t say anything about altruism. You merely agreed with the point of my post.

rupert carnegie
rupert carnegie
9 days ago

The power of major donors in the American political system has grown, is growing and ought to be diminished. Elon Musk is the prime example BUT I think “Neo-feudal” is a misleading metaphor. The idea that Musk is a free standing power dictating to the US and other governments is wrong. The reality is more complex and two way.

The same week that world’s richest man has been throwing his weight around has also seen the third richest, Zuckerberg, running for cover, tossing Clegg overboard and adopting X style free speech in the hope of placating Trump. Musk, Bezos, Zuckerberg and others have as much to fear as gain from the new Trump Administration.

The expansion and intrusion of the regulatory state has created a blurred situation with the public and private sectors commingled and each compelled to seek to influence the other. The old paradigm of companies pursuing their interests within an impartial framework of laws while largely keeping out of politics has collapsed. If anything, the new system resembles less feudalism that the endless bureaucratic manoeuvring of pre Xi China as political factions / economic blocs (eg the energy / security grouping) sought to retain favour and access to resources.

In the long run, I am optimistic. The absurdity of the status quo is so self evident that reform seems probable. Free speech is already regaining ground. The growing corruption since the Citizens United case has become as blatant as that of the Age of the Robber Barons and – as in that case – will provoke a reaction. Even the underlying blurring of private / public boundaries as the result of the growth of the regulatory state will probably eventually get sorted out.

Terry M
Terry M
8 days ago

The power of major donors in the American political system has grown, is growing and ought to be diminished.
How do you explain that Kamala spent more than $2 bn, more than twice what Trump spent, and yet got her butt kicked. The candidate means more than the money at that level. At a local level the money has a larger impact since it takes a critical mass of money to get noticed – without that you are not in the game.
And NO, their power should not and will not be diminished. They can get around any barrier you put up.

J Bryant
J Bryant
9 days ago

One thing’s for sure: Mary Harrington is back on form.

Brian Kneebone
Brian Kneebone
9 days ago

I suspect the UK is in line for one term governments in the near term. A period of political volatility looms that will prevent the like of 14 years of insipid Tory rule. Division, anger and increasing frustration will be pervasive in the electorate.

Dennis Roberts
Dennis Roberts
9 days ago
Reply to  Brian Kneebone

The way the world looks to be headed, things are going to a lot more disrupted than a bit of political instability.

Rocky Martiano
Rocky Martiano
8 days ago
Reply to  Brian Kneebone

I’m taking bets on Starmer being consigned to the dustbin of history by the end of the year.

j watson
j watson
9 days ago

One has to suspect Mary secretly enjoys the Musk schtick if it’s directed at her preferred bogeymen (or women) like Starmer. Maybe she approves of Elon calling a decent woman, Jess Phillips, who has long campaigned against the abuse of women, often bravery against Islamists, a ‘rape genocide apologist’ entirely designed to frighten and intimidate? She chooses to not mention and essentially glosses over it. So whilst she well knows it’s toxic and dangerous she equivocates. She weakly fixates on what it may say about the British State instead than the far more important matter of what it says about US politics and who has taken control – that a Billionaires Club has rode the back of grievances from the ‘many’ to gain power and have absolutely no intention of seriously addressing the inequalities that create those grievances. What it says about the British State is thank goodness it can’t happen here and that our national instinct is to be repelled by this sort of thing. That’s a strength we can be proud of.
What she should be starting to also say is ‘we’ve been had’. That they’ve ‘done the age old trick of sowing division and identifying scapegoats to throw us all off the scent of who’s really loaded the game in their own favour’. And that ‘perhaps I’ve played a small role in enabling it’.

Andrew R
Andrew R
9 days ago
Reply to  j watson

Like the other day, you’re commenting on an article that doesn’t exist. Perhaps you’ll like to write one of your own.

Jim Veenbaas
Jim Veenbaas
9 days ago
Reply to  j watson

Ya. If it wasn’t for billionaires like Musk et al, the British state would be hunky dory – ditto for Germany, France and the rest of Western Europe.

Andrew R
Andrew R
8 days ago
Reply to  j watson

Who’s being scapegoated JW? The groomers and the rap1sts, wasn’t it the progressive enablers who scapegoated the girls? Looks like you’re the one that’s been had.

Tony Price
Tony Price
8 days ago
Reply to  Andrew R

The primary villains in this sad saga are/were the policemen right at the bottom who failed in their duty – hardly a cadre of ‘progressive enablers’ but rather the very opposite.

Andrew R
Andrew R
8 days ago
Reply to  Tony Price

JW loves to project, so I did some of my own. Now some people like to argue that since the election of New Labour the police have become politicised and they along with the councils thought it best to suppress the story, all for the sake of that magical multiculturalism.

glyn harries
glyn harries
8 days ago
Reply to  Tony Price

indeed and it was misogynism and bigotry from the police involved against the poor that had them designate abused girls as ‘child prostitutes’.
This was no liberal woke bullshit but traditional reactionary prejudice.
nb there was ‘woke’ bullshit from some of the social workers involved clearly.

Hugh Bryant
Hugh Bryant
8 days ago
Reply to  j watson

And that ‘perhaps I’ve played a small role in enabling it.
Isn’t that what you’ve been doing on here for weeks – trying desperately to change the subject?

Citizen Diversity
Citizen Diversity
9 days ago

What’s Mr Tate’s view on Gaza? Isn’t that the new determining factor in UK elections?
Will this gentleman provide a novel synthesis of all the factors involved in these disquieting controversies? A ‘bruv’ who is also a follower of the religion of peace would, as a ‘pound shop demagogue’, offer his fan club among the ‘white working class’ a difficult choice.
The ‘bureaucracy’ only sees the activities of the ‘grooming gangs’ as a failure of bureaucracy. The ‘solution’ is more procedures, systems, processes, and…bureaucracy. Multiplying the eyes of Argus; eyes that are only sleepy with euphemisms.
What a beast Musk must be. Our Jess reports that her world has been turned upside down by his tweets; so fragile is our gal that she’s all teary over the hurty words from thousands of miles away emanating from the ‘special relationship’.
If these legacy political parties, the old ones from the 19th century, are reaching their Bourbon moment, they would be completely unaware of the sans culottes about to be unleashed by the personages of the internet salons.

Lancashire Lad
Lancashire Lad
8 days ago

I like the way you’ve introduced the “legacy” element into the discussion, reflecting the “late Victorian” take on our culture in another of today’s articles. There’s something in that which adds to the perspective in this article.

Our political parties are leftovers from the Industrial Revolution, unable to cope with the Digital Revolution epitomised by Musk.

The MSM are in overdrive trying to defend the status quo, utilising every available resource to denigrate and denounce those who challenge what they thought was their cultural hegemony.

As others have said, this is amusing but how far will they go now their positions are threatened? We’ve had working class tweeters jailed. The point you make about Tate and his (no doubt opportunistic) ‘conversion’ to Islam being at odds with those communities who’re part of the second tier in our two-tier state is well made.

Andrew Horsman
Andrew Horsman
9 days ago

Perhaps Andrew Tate didn’t just “pop up” but is rather sponsored and guided by monied or political interests of one form or another, who might well have both the means and motivation to keep a grip on all parts of the media narrative spectrum? And, at the risk of exciting the ire of many UnHerd commentators who seem to see Musk as their knight in shining armour coming over the hill, perhaps – just maybe – the utopian oligarch who wants to put a proprietary chip in everyone’s brains to foster a new era of trans-national transhumanism ain’t quite the Burkean champion of liberal conservatism and freedom of conscience he’s sometimes cracked up to be?

Rocky Martiano
Rocky Martiano
8 days ago
Reply to  Andrew Horsman

Maybe not, but he’s certainly stirred up a hornet’s nest in the cosy salon of uniparty politics on both sides of the pond.

Katharine Eyre
Katharine Eyre
9 days ago

Excellent stuff.
Musk’s influence-peddling is obviously extra-democratic, in this sense. But many other more progressively inclined lords and princes meddle openly in the democratic process without triggering nearly the same fury.
Seeing the reaction to Musk’s interventions is amusing on several counts, but seeing the furious have to grapple with the fact that, no, you didn’t go nearly so ballistic when George Soros waded into the Brexit issue (for example) is one of the better bits.
And I think this is part of the Musk strategy: purposely go too far, purposely say something well off the mark so that our current leaders (if you can call them that) have this false sense of security in their response and happily trot out the well-worn platitudes (misinformation, far-right, don’t interfere in our democracy blah blah blah)…which only serve to make them look entirely out of touch and hypocritical when you remind them of their own past behaviour, thus undermining their own authority further.
It’s an incredibly efficient method of wielding power. All Musk does is write a sentence, maybe an article if we’re thinking about the Welt am Sonntag piece, and it sets off a dynamic and a debate that runs all on its own. It’s also self-reinforcing in that everything our leaders try to do to then get out of the mess just ends up getting them even deeper into it.
While I do think that we’re in a time of massive reorganisation, I think these “leaders” would be massively helped by just thinking things through a couple of steps before responding. It doesn’t take a genius or chess grandmaster to do this, just a bit of self reflection.
But no – Starmer just stands there and sputters about the far right and seems horrified when, oh dear, it’s not working quite as well as it did in summer, what do I do now? The way he over-pronounces “far right” is a sign of the rising panic that he must be feeling about the tools in his arsenal which he believed to be nuclear disintegrating to dust on impact.

Katharine Eyre
Katharine Eyre
9 days ago
Reply to  Katharine Eyre

I also think it is possible that this Musk onslaught is being at least tacitly supported by Trump and that it is a way of telling European governments that the relationship to the US is going to be on a different footing going forward.
As far as Germany is concerned, the message I see is: if you openly insult our leader and expressly/implicitly support the other side in the elections, we’re going to bring that right back atcha. DON’T FORGET WHO (STILL) PAYS FOR YOUR SECURITY. Be nice.
I’m overly fond of saying this, but Europe really is like a spoilt kid that’s now being kicked out of the cushy situation it’s got way too used to.

David George
David George
8 days ago
Reply to  Katharine Eyre

More than tacitly; Donald Trump, when asked yesterday, said he fully supported Elon Musk and that he’s a great man.

AC Harper
AC Harper
8 days ago
Reply to  Katharine Eyre

Indeed. You can argue that the main political parties in the UK (Labour and Conservative) are still playing their political games as if the old Global Liberal Elite was in power. The Conservatives have been roundly punished for not waking up and smelling the coffee, and Labour have doubled down on the excuses that used to work. Political parties in other countries are struggling grimly to hold on as the old elite, but are also failing.
The new elite is gradually coming into its pre-eminence. Reform may or may not be able to seize the opportunity in the UK. Musk may or may not prove to be a catalyst in the formation of the new elite. But the old elite is dead and cannot be saved – too many skeletons have been hidden in too many closets, and the closet doors are swinging open.

Rocky Martiano
Rocky Martiano
8 days ago
Reply to  Katharine Eyre

I think Musk has learned a lot in this approach from his proximity to Trump. Throw out some outrageous statement (the more outrageous the better) and while the bien pensant politicians and their subservient propaganda machines are busy choking on their coffee, the Overton window for acceptable thought and speech has moved several notches one way or the other. People are seriously discussing Canada becoming the 51st state.

Samuel Ross
Samuel Ross
4 days ago
Reply to  Rocky Martiano

Most Americans forget that Canada even exists. When DJT mentions Canada, he reminds them that Canada is a thing.

Jonathan Nash
Jonathan Nash
9 days ago

Tempting though it is to applaud anybody sticking it to this hapless government, Musk’s tweets (at least as reported) sound like the ravings of a madman. Perhaps its just a question of register.

Lancashire Lad
Lancashire Lad
8 days ago
Reply to  Jonathan Nash

I think they’re deliberately “over the top” in a way designed to create maximum effect, and he’s succeeding.

Our elites have got away with their cultural dominance by invoking ‘politeness’, epitomised by the term “be kind”. It’s by changing the register that Musk – and Trump, of course – have undermined that ethic.

Tony Price
Tony Price
8 days ago
Reply to  Jonathan Nash

It is also reported that Musk is addicted to ketamine, which would explain the nature, volume and timing of his excretions.

glyn harries
glyn harries
8 days ago
Reply to  Jonathan Nash

Indeed yet the UnHerd readers have voted you down 2 to 12.
Hard times ahead for rational and sane people.

Dennis Roberts
Dennis Roberts
8 days ago
Reply to  glyn harries

It’s been hard times for rational and sane people for a long time, but you’re right, it isn’t getting any better.

Saul D
Saul D
9 days ago

You have to realise that Musk’s voice scales much bigger than just the US or UK. His posts are being picked up in India and Asia for instance, which potentially means much wider discussions of things like free speech, or equality under the law.
Online conversations for ‘big hitters’ are now global via social media. We’ve had global celebrities before (eg Charlie Chaplin, Elvis) but only very rarely have they used their celebrity to try to communicate directly to a global audience, or have had the means to do so, without it being filtered through media and journalists.
What’s more, Musk will have the tools within Twitter/X to see where his posts are landing, and who is reading them, and where he is getting reactions and, I guess, AI summaries of their effect on different populations. Other social media leaders can also do the same things, but they’ve tended to be restrained on what they post and how they manage their reach in order to protect the ‘neutrality’ of their platforms.
Social media celebrities are breaking out of normal national boundaries and then boosting other players, for instance, giving Farage a presence in the US that belies his political role in the UK.

UnHerd Reader
UnHerd Reader
8 days ago

Musk is a numpty, folk need to realise Twitter (X) isn’t the real world

Tony Price
Tony Price
8 days ago
Reply to  UnHerd Reader

I don’t often ‘uptick’ but have for this as the use of the good Yorkshire epithet ‘numpty’ is both unusual and absolutely spot on!

Rocky Martiano
Rocky Martiano
8 days ago
Reply to  UnHerd Reader

And pray enlighten us as to what is the real world?

Evan Heneghan
Evan Heneghan
8 days ago

Brilliant article, thanks a lot. I would add that Musk purchasing Twitter was a ‘stick in the spokes’ moment for the established post democratic world order and that we’re into a brave new world here. While Soros and Gates have been left to freely peddle influence on behalf of the elites for decades, Musk has disrupted the entire cartel by togging out for the other side.

What this has shown is the absurdity of the ceremonial democracy we currently have. We have been presented with uni party candidates for years who pretend to squabble over some of the little issues but have marched in step on the most important issues like immigration, taxation, climate change, woke ideology etc. Any political or media entity that tries to challenge this performative democracy was labelled as dangerous or far right. Now that Musk has his giant soap box he is able to point out how naked the emperor is and it is abundantly clear how absurd the current situation is: that, for decades, we have been presented with a false political dichotomy that very clearly does not have our interests at its heart.

Terry M
Terry M
8 days ago
Reply to  Evan Heneghan

performative democracy
Perfect.
Virtue signal. Sound bite. Celeb endorsement. Photo op. TV time. Vague positive slogan (hope and change). Government handouts. These things have become the stuff of elections rather than policy, track record, and experience.

Rocky Martiano
Rocky Martiano
8 days ago
Reply to  Evan Heneghan

Excellent synthesis, bravo!

Anthony Roe
Anthony Roe
8 days ago

Trump needs a private army, a consigliere (and money-man) like Elon Musk and architects and builders of the vision of Michelangelo, Leonardo and Bramante.

Susan Grabston
Susan Grabston
8 days ago

This article highlights for me the 2 dimensions we are now confronting: horizontal (somewheres/anywheres) and vertical (virtual/embodied). I.don’t know how it plays out, but I think about it alot. Thanks for the shout out to Peter Turchin who is doing serious academic work applying math to history.

Prashant Kotak
Prashant Kotak
8 days ago

Very nice, thank you.

Satyam Nagwekar
Satyam Nagwekar
8 days ago

‘Grand dukes’/political donors/agenda setters are not new. It is just that it usually happens behind the scenes. Musk is obviously front and centre and also the principal political backer, which is not a great look for the Trump administration. Musk also ‘unsilenced’ Trump in a way no one else in the history of American presidential elections has. Musk is just overt about what he wants.

RA Znayder
RA Znayder
8 days ago

It remains to be seen whether Musk comes even close to the influence of the oligarchs and dynasties who have constructen their cony networks for decades. Musk is mostly very vocal so far, which is partly because he happened to have captured a huge social media platform.
Nevertheless, it is interesting that some oligarchs have started singing out of tune but in the end rhetoric is just rhetoric. Just as big capital engaged in green and pink washing I can see they would engage in MAGA-washing if they think it is beneficial.
And that should also make us think about the more fundamental question. Do we want to live in a second Gilded age or is the massive inequality – which is really the underlying reason for neofeudalism – inherently problematic for most people?

Terry M
Terry M
8 days ago
Reply to  RA Znayder

Great points. Musk has the opportunity to make real changes through the Dept of Gov Efficiency. We will have a chance to judge whether his influence can be translated into actions. Given his success with Tesla, SpaceX, Starlink, et al, my guess is he will have some success here as well.

Rocky Martiano
Rocky Martiano
8 days ago
Reply to  Terry M

It’s a Herculean task, given the entrenched interests of the deep state, but I wish him well. If he succeeds it will be almost impossible for other western ‘democratic’ governments to avoid following suit.

glyn harries
glyn harries
7 days ago
Reply to  Terry M

The only changes I can see them planning are destroying vital institutions like the National Parks Service. What good do you see coming from $trillion cuts to government departments?

Lennon Ó Náraigh
Lennon Ó Náraigh
8 days ago

I think feudal princes were tied to a particular place. MH gives the example of the Medici clan. They were tied to Florence… and then France, through advantageous marriages.

In contrast, Musk wields his influence in a way that is not tied to a particular place, and the reason is that his influence machine Twitter/X is one which is disembodied and dislocated… themes which MH is very familiar with.

Maybe the best analogy is with other captains of industry who have wielded great influence in the past through similar abstract mechanisms of information and financial influence, unmoored from ties to a particular place, such as William Randolph Hurst, Rupert Mudoch, and Nathan Rothschild.

Claire Grey
Claire Grey
8 days ago

Perhaps both.

Claire Grey
Claire Grey
8 days ago

What is Anglo-Bukelism ?

Apart from that one odd line, a great essay and fascinating analysis. I very much agree with it, though I’m not at all keen on Andrew Tate getting a foot in the door.

It is interesting that with, what seems to be, the collapse of liberalism (from overeach ? feminisation ? decadence ?) ‘strong men’ are rising. Inevitable I would have thought, it’s the way of the world.

Democracy will only work for good if the populace is reasonably well educated, which is what happened during most of the 20th century, but not any more. And so the edifice of democracy becomes weak and unstable. Strength is bound to come from somewhere to fill the space and assert itself.

Andrew R
Andrew R
8 days ago
Reply to  Claire Grey

I think you’ve answered your own question regarding Anglo-Burkism with “And so the edifice of democracy becomes weak and unstable. Strength is bound to come from somewhere to fill the space and assert itself”. I.E. the murder andselling off of a dead body for dissection, in this case liberal democracy (if I’ve read it correctly).

Rocky Martiano
Rocky Martiano
8 days ago
Reply to  Claire Grey

As in Nayib Bukele, the strongly libertarian president of El Salvador (educated guess).

Claire Grey
Claire Grey
8 days ago
Reply to  Rocky Martiano

Thanks to both of you.

Ben Jones
Ben Jones
8 days ago

Interesting article. I’d like to see Mary’s take on the generational aspect of this; Musk is firmly Gen X. The Boomer political cohort is on the way out, what do the pre-Millennials bring to the table? Growing up pre-internet, Gen X seems less censorious (and more potentially rebellious) than Boomers and Millennials both.

Dennis Roberts
Dennis Roberts
8 days ago
Reply to  Ben Jones

Gen X are supposedly more independent (latchkey kids as they used to be called, at least in the UK). But there aren’t very many of them and are mostly forgotten in generational discussions (or increasingly just lumped in with the Boomers).

Prashant Kotak
Prashant Kotak
8 days ago

The Way of the Dragon.

You have to remember, dragons although mostly benign, are not controllable, can be capricious, and follow their own agenda which may be opaque. But you definitely don’t want to be on the wrong side of an enraged one. And the mouse-squeak manner in which Starmer, Shultz and Macron are pushing back against the brickbats raining down on them indicates these clowns are aware of the the risks. Do you think they will henceforth simply refer to Musk as ‘He Who Must Not Be Named’?

Pete Pritchard
Pete Pritchard
8 days ago

Musk has 220 million followers on X. That is 2.5 x the population of the UK. A single tweet touches most important people and is then amplified a thousand times. This is the real power.

JR Stoker
JR Stoker
8 days ago

Musk is powerful so long as he is rich. But how long will he stay rich if his weird business empire continues as it is at the moment?

glyn harries
glyn harries
8 days ago

It is sad to see UnHerd readers have so little imagination that they can only imagine a world with either the so called ‘liberal elites’ – actually just neo-liberals with a facade of liberalism like Hilary Clinton or Keir Starmer, or the ‘Grand Dukes’ or robber barons like Musk and Trump. Seriously can we not do better?
And p.s. any one who tweets **** like ‘liberate Britain from tyrannical government’ or that Jess Philips is a “rape genocide apologist.” is a certifiable ****-stirring loony.

M To the Tea
M To the Tea
8 days ago

The medium is the message! Cannt remember the name of the brainer who coined it!

Andrew R
Andrew R
8 days ago
Reply to  M To the Tea

Marshall McCluhan

M To the Tea
M To the Tea
8 days ago
Reply to  Andrew R

Thank you! I remembered the double Ms but could not get it out of my tongue!

Dash Riprock
Dash Riprock
8 days ago

There is a symmetry in the way the political opponents of Soros and Musk view each man

Alex Lekas
Alex Lekas
8 days ago
Reply to  Dash Riprock

Yet there is no symmetry in how either walks his talk. Soros put his millions into electing prosecutors who refuse to prosecute, effectively turning multiple major cities into dystopian centers. Musk has yet to burn anything down.

Pete Pritchard
Pete Pritchard
8 days ago

BTW, has anyone wondered how much dirt there is on most politicians that keep them in play by their paymasters?

Tyler Durden
Tyler Durden
8 days ago

He can’t have the American presidency but he may just secure the first British one.
Never has a government looked more likely to be overthrown from outside the usual processes.
If that happens then it may finally be Britain’s revolutionary republican moment.

Philip Tisdall
Philip Tisdall
8 days ago
Reply to  Tyler Durden

I would love to see you compare and contrast that with Cromwell.

James Wills
James Wills
8 days ago

Don’t overthink it. He’s doing the job that your government, ever-fearful of being called “racist,” hasn’t been doing for, probably, two decades – and by calling them out before the entire planet, Elon is bringing down upon their heads the opprobrium they deserve.
I recommend you consider adopting a Bill of Rights, if for no other reason perhaps to afford these girls’ parents the ability to at least speak out without risking arrest or confiscation of their homes. I know where you can find a model document, if you’re interested ….

Prashant Kotak
Prashant Kotak
8 days ago

A bit of an aside, but I have to admit ‘snivelling cretin’ made me double up with laughter.

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Chris Greenhalgh
Chris Greenhalgh
8 days ago

Musk, like Farage raises issues which are of genuine concerns to ( small c) conservative people. It dismays me that people who question the merits of a liberal ethos are labelled ‘far right’ .

The state of the current government is a pretty good mirror of what is happening to Trudeau and his party in Canada. Liberalism, like communism, is just not working.

The people who hold this view are therefore perfectly within their rights to seek alternatives to the current system and they will.

G M
G M
8 days ago

The issue is that Musk and others are standing up for freedom and free speech, and for the hard-working ordinary person, more than the mainstream institutional authorities, and that gives Musk and others a lot of weight in public opinion.

glyn harries
glyn harries
7 days ago
Reply to  G M

Seriously? You think a billionaire born with a silver spoon in his mouth gives a damn about “freedom and free speech, and for the hard-working ordinary person”??? Trade unions are not even allowed at Tesla! Honestly this naivety is why the world is so ****ed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_and_unions

Rocky Martiano
Rocky Martiano
8 days ago

Zuckerberg has just fired the FB fact checkers and is going full-on X.
The (New York) Times they are a’changing.

Jerry Carroll
Jerry Carroll
8 days ago

I’m glad your ended your column on a sartorial note. No Western leader is better dressed than Keir Starmer, for which all thanks must be given to Lord Alli, another rich man. And yet the prime minister still manages to give off the impression of an empty suit. Elon Musk is one of those great men who appear at long intervals of human history. It is quite natural that the wee people don’t understand him.

Rachel Taylor
Rachel Taylor
8 days ago

This is interesting, but I don’t agree entirely. Musk is actually taking a huge personal risk. He is the exception, not the rule. Most oligarchs exercise their power through quiet patronage of the political class. Politicians exercise their power over oligarchs through the threat of regulation. So we arrive at where we are now, mostly, which is a kind of guardian corporatism. Musk has joined Trump in blowing the lid off this cosy, corrupt, consensus.

K Tsmitz
K Tsmitz
8 days ago

Musk’s influence is really no different than that of Soros, Gates, Schwab et al, he just doesn’t wield it from the shadows like the others do. What you see is what you get.
I’d rather that than someone who says prayers and kisses babies in front of the camera and then slithers over to the Sunset Inn to bang lines of coke off of the supple cheeks of Brittni and Jazmyn (they say they’re twins) before heading home to his wife and children.

Steve Gwynne
Steve Gwynne
8 days ago

The future is unfolding and the future isn’t looking good for the Progressive Panopticon and its institutionalised woke clientalism now that it is under global scrutiny made possible by the knowledge economy of digital social media.

Beyond the emergence of a global Right that is pitting itself against a global Left, we are witnessing the cultural downstream effects of globalisation and perhaps the dawning emergence of a species level consciousness in which New Testament morality is being applied in order to bring about a sense of global leadership through the informal governance economy of neo-feudalism.

My feeling is that Musk’s intervention is operating at different levels simultaneously. As Trump’s ‘righthand man’ (in competition with his rival ‘righthand man’ in the form of Farage), he is using a clear example of woke clientalism to sucker punch and soften an already bruised Lord of Woke in retaliation for past smears of faso-racism metted out by the Woke in preparation for Trump – Starmer negotiations regarding trading relationships and tariffs.

If Starmer retaliates by leaning further into the EU, then the attacks will intensify with the purpose of shaping the global populist Right narratives to create discord within the panopticon of the EU. If Starmer humbles himself to Trump, then demands will be made of him to bring the UK into a true sense of democratic equality rather than the woke clientist kind.

In my mind, this globalised neo-feudal political pressure could only happen within the context of a liberal democracy in which the dialectic of general elections creates an us and them cultural mentality. If a country was more culturally unified under an authoritarian government, then I suspect the political dynamic of global neo-feudalism would be seen as a more direct threat to a Nation’s integrity.

So perhaps we are witnessing the emergence of a proto-global-order that marries a politically legitimate ad-hoc global oversight body with the Westphalian Nation-State System in opposition to the failed attempts by the United Nations and the EU to create a Progressive Panopticon world order.

Andrew Fisher
Andrew Fisher
8 days ago

I think the current British government is full of complete mediocrities who are absolutely clueless at how to address the deep rooted problems in Britain. Beyond the other hand there is huge resistance to addressing these issues by major constituencies within Britain, including the last number of people who prefer to stay at home rather than work!

While much of the British state has certainly failed lamentably to address key issues, including immigration, and this establishment is miles apart from the general public, to most ordinary people Musk comes over as a complete fanatic and obsessive. The call to imprison the prime minister is absolutely ridiculous and is quite likely to be totally countable productive. (By the way I don’t think most of the commentators is on here rank as “ordinary people”!

Samuel Ross
Samuel Ross
4 days ago
Reply to  Andrew Fisher

Which last number?

Kiddo Cook
Kiddo Cook
8 days ago

Very entertaining.

mike flynn
mike flynn
8 days ago

All well and good to liken Musk to de Medici. Always remember the lunatic left drove him to this with its dangerous lies and oppressive censorship. So he buys Twitter, and, unfortunately, a president.

Absent left’s overreach, Musk stays on his lane.

Adolphus Longestaffe
Adolphus Longestaffe
8 days ago

I wonder at what point, and to what extent, it will become appropriate to discuss Elon Musk’s behavior in the context of his Autism Spectrum Disorder, which he himself has publicly spoken of (calling it by the name Asperger’s Syndrome). The world may not be ready for another irrepressible activist who wields that disorder as a superpower — and one who has the means to buy and sell most anything, to boot.
https://www.autismontario.com/news/self-disclosure-and-self-representation-aspergers-and-elon-musk-debate

UnHerd Reader
UnHerd Reader
8 days ago

And AI is not even mentioned.

Nick Ainsworth
Nick Ainsworth
8 days ago

A little more economy on words and phrases would be appreciated. It is sometimes hard to discern the message over the bytes

John Lamble
John Lamble
7 days ago

The idea of princelings is quite amusing. No doubt Starmer thought he was sending one of his best, in the form of Mandelson, to re-take America. It is intensely gratifying to this peasant that that appeared ludicrous so quickly. The mob in Britain always loved someone with princely qualities but who appeared able to dominate the supposedly ‘democratic’ world of elections and Boris Johnson was one such. He was last ‘elected’ because of his princely credentials as a would-be slayer of the EU dragon; then a plague came along and his touch in dispelling ‘the Queen’s evil’ i.e. covid, was uncertain to put it mildly. But it did reveal that magic is now the most potent political force, trumping mere votes. There is something Shakespearean in Starmer’s fate; he’s like Richard III, a fundamentally O.K. person but utterly charmless, charismaless and quite devoid of the sort of glamour that allows a real prince to slay dragons and liberate Rochdale maidens.

Malcolm Webb
Malcolm Webb
7 days ago

There is indeed much that is wrong in U.K. today. For starters, have a Government claiming it has a mandate to pursue a “ progressive” (woke) agenda despite the fact that two thirds of the voters in the last election voted against it. Being Marxists at heart, having grasped the levers of power they will not relinquish them lightly. Personally I fear that when the embarrassment of Starmer becomes too much even for them to bear, the Socialists will effect a hard left authoritarian reset. God save us from that.
The lesson I take from this is that we need much less “ progressive” Government in our lives and hence should abandon the outdated first past the post election process which delivers us into the hands of “ Strong Government” such as the current shower of incompetent and ignorant zealots – or indeed their recent Tory counterparts.

Estes Kefauver
Estes Kefauver
7 days ago

Despite her magniloquence, the author displays a striking naivete. Morgan, Carnegie, even Joe Kennedy Sr., anyone? And equating Musk, by whom she is quite obviously repelled, with Tate is just ludicrously, blindingly penile-envious. Dworkin on a bad day…

Michael Clarke
Michael Clarke
7 days ago

Some day soon, people like Musk will inspect guards of honour on arrival in foreign countries whereas visiting heads of state and government will have to get a taxi into town.

Harrydog
Harrydog
5 days ago

in response to a resurgence of interest in the scandal of Britain’s predominantly Pakistani Muslim “grooming gangs”, as these are euphemistically known;”
Mary, thank you for making this crucial point. You remain one of my favorite reads at UnHerd. I don’t always agree with you, but I am always stimulated by your ideas and eloquence and the conviction with which they are imparted.
I have an idea for a charity fundraiser that UnHerd should sponsor. When I was a kid, my grandmother and I would go to a church event centered around a lottery that offered up a variety of items. One would purchase a number of tickets, put your name on each one, and then deposit tickets in a basket associated with each auction item. Really want something, put a bunch of your tickets in that basket. At the end, tickets were drawn, the prizes bestowed. (I got a great GI Joe doll once)
UnHerd should sponsor a one-on-one lunch with an UnHerd contributing author. A lot of my tickets are going into the Mary Harrington basket.

Miriam Cotton
Miriam Cotton
5 days ago

A good article. There’s horrendous hypocrisy about Musk. Traditional media have relentlessly, ruthlessly controlled all public conversation since its advent. They’ve exercised power over us that even Musk can only dream of. They’re having an almighty rage tantrum at seeing their power and prestige draining away. Musk is their most prominent scapegoat. The scale of their hatred of ordinary people is stunning. They never, ever turn the spotlight on their own abject failures. So much for ‘balance’ and ‘objectivity’. Moreover, if Musk were saying the ‘right’ things, held the ‘right’ opinions he would be celebrated and feted wherever he goes. Bill Gates, George Soros, Peter Thiel etc. and countless others go about their interference and control rackets undisturbed while the media genuflects obediently before their every utterance. It’s considered ‘far right’ to question Gates’ corruption of global health policies, and the revolting self-interest of his dim-witted, intensely destructive but highly lucrative ‘philanthropy’ e.g. Musk is throwing his weight around in a stupid way right now, behaving like an adolescent who’s drunk too much at a party. Thus far, the manner of his interventions in British politics e.g. have done nothing but make him look loutish, even though they have some merit. Compared to the aforementioned other billionaires he’s practically an ingenue.

UnHerd Reader
UnHerd Reader
5 days ago

Editors influence newspapers. Musk influences which opinions are shown first. Being more persuasive is not enough.

Samuel Ross
Samuel Ross
4 days ago

You left out ‘The Boring Company’.

Chris Whybrow
Chris Whybrow
9 days ago

Musk is neither a prince, an engineer or anyone of note, but a jester handed an obscene amount of money by the Americans’ curious reverence for wealth. His attack on Starmer seems to have boiled down to a Twitter rant like all his others, and when he and Trump inevitably fall out we’ll see exactly how much power he really has.

Jon Turner
Jon Turner
8 days ago

Let us be clear here that Keir Starmer is being persecuted by a right wing media that has twisted what he is trying to achieve and is galvanizing its readers around a far right interpretation of what is going on.
The truth is that Keir Starmer and the Labour Party are delivering on their promises to govern like grown-ups in a way which has been entirely absent from the Conservative Party for decades, who have been a complete disaster for this country in every way.
Don’t let the right wing press or Elon Musk tell you otherwise.

Rocky Martiano
Rocky Martiano
8 days ago
Reply to  Jon Turner

I wanted to copy the gif from PK’s post above but don’t have the technical skills to do it.

Om Ar
Om Ar
8 days ago

Although he undeniably does much good, like drawing attention to the rape gangs right now, Musk is absolutely not to be trusted and is an immature, dangerous megalomaniac.
He’s essentially a transhumanist who believes he has a special right to decide the fate of the world. He doesn’t care about the British girls victimized in that horrific way – he’s using it to increase his power, in a very clever way. After all, the establishment truly has let them, and the whole nation, down.
But you will never see him say anything about Israel killing a Palestinian child every 30 minutes (18,000 thus far in Gaza). He has his own political/technological agenda and to hell with anyone who doesn’t fit into it. His anti-Islam bias is now undeniable as he tries to connect the rape gangs with a faith of 2 billion people.
He won over MAGA until he spat in their face with his H1-B Visa stance. They realized he doesn’t care about American jobs. Together with Peter Thiel, David Sacks, and others, he has infiltrated the US government and it’s pretty scary looking ahead to be honest. I think the majority of his admirers will wake up only when it’s too late and he’s too powerful.