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Bret Larson
Bret Larson
2 months ago

I’m sure they appreciate your words of wisdom. There are benefits being old.

Billy Bob
Billy Bob
2 months ago

Thank God I’m not young now, it all sounds horribly pretentious. My perfect girl was any willing to come home with me at 2am after a heavy night out

David Giles
David Giles
2 months ago
Reply to  Billy Bob

Well, I’m afraid there were so many girls willing to come home with me at 2am I had to be a bit more discerning than that. Of yeah, that was me. Or at least, that’s how I remember it.

Billy Bob
Billy Bob
2 months ago
Reply to  David Giles

Fussy means less!

Bret Larson
Bret Larson
2 months ago
Reply to  David Giles

I had to wait until 6am

Billy Bob
Billy Bob
2 months ago
Reply to  Bret Larson

I wasn’t much use at 2am, if I’d waited til 6 there was no chance of anything happening. Plus there was always a timeline sliding scale in my town.
10pm – The girls you want to take home.
Midnight – The girls you’ll settle for
2am – The dregs that are left outside the kebab shop. That was my time to shine!

Kent Ausburn
Kent Ausburn
2 months ago
Reply to  Billy Bob

Thats why closing-time glasses were invented.

Ethniciodo Rodenydo
Ethniciodo Rodenydo
2 months ago
Reply to  Billy Bob

Sounds like you are due a visit from the metoo mob

Billy Bob
Billy Bob
2 months ago

Nah. I spent half my yoof trying to drink my own body weight in Sambuca and Tequila so I think I was the one being taken advantage of on a good few occasions. I could probably join the mob myself

Ethniciodo Rodenydo
Ethniciodo Rodenydo
2 months ago
Reply to  Billy Bob

You’re just digging a bigger hole

Geoff W
Geoff W
2 months ago

I think that Dr Stock, who has genuine intellectual heft, should leave the articles about online crap to Ms Sowerby.

Billy Bob
Billy Bob
2 months ago
Reply to  Geoff W

Why?

Geoff W
Geoff W
2 months ago
Reply to  Billy Bob

I realise that online crap can sometimes be revelatory of significant social phenomena, but mostly it’s too trivial and transitory to be worth bothering about, and I think that Dr Stock is working too hard to make a point here.

Jerry Carroll
Jerry Carroll
2 months ago
Reply to  Geoff W

You don’t find sweating sexy?

AJ Mac
AJ Mac
2 months ago
Reply to  Jerry Carroll

Good one. Your humor can be pretty clever when it ain’t too mean and isn’t pointed at me.

Simon Blanchard
Simon Blanchard
2 months ago
Reply to  Geoff W

I disagree. She gathered it all together and distilled it all down into a magnificently succinct piece that had me laughing out loud several times.

George Venning
George Venning
2 months ago
Reply to  Geoff W

Agreed, “on-line weirdos are weird irrespective of their supposed politics” isn’t much of a premise, is it?
But then again, perhaps we should encourage that by leaving it alone ourselves?

Claire Grey
Claire Grey
2 months ago
Reply to  Geoff W

I disagree, I thought it was an amusing article, deftly written as usual by KS, about some more strange, or perhaps not so strange, human behaviour activated by the internet.

Derek Smith
Derek Smith
2 months ago
Reply to  Geoff W

I’d rather read Stock on this stuff than Sowerby.

Paul Airey
Paul Airey
2 months ago
Reply to  Derek Smith

I’d rather read Dr Stock on anything. Sowerby is a moron who could perhaps be usefully repurposed as dog food.

AJ Mac
AJ Mac
2 months ago
Reply to  Paul Airey

Would you take a bite?

Billy Bob
Billy Bob
2 months ago
Reply to  AJ Mac

The missus might kick up a stink if I did

AJ Mac
AJ Mac
2 months ago
Reply to  Billy Bob

Ha! Sounds like your “canine” days may not be all the way behind you.

Jerry Carroll
Jerry Carroll
2 months ago
Reply to  Geoff W

Better yet, alone.

Jonathan Andrews
Jonathan Andrews
2 months ago

There was a recent US news clip in which a man was being interviewed by a rather glamorous female newsreader about free speech. He said that he had only two things he had found reliable all his life: the first ammendment and boobs. The newsreader’s disdain was so over the top and absurd that it showed how moronic modern feminism has become.

“In the process, they were perfectly happy to drive a wedge between what Lefty men actually wanted in the privacy of their own psyches, and what they felt they ought to be seen to want in public.”

Of course women should expect to be treated with courtesy and respect but when beautiful, playful young women seem like fun they’ll get a lot of (nearly always) delighted attention from men.

It’s so tiresome being scolded for the aspects of masculinity that are innate and, moreover, without men having these feeling, women wouldn’t get any sex either

Chris Whybrow
Chris Whybrow
2 months ago

I don’t think openly drooling over Sydney Sweeney is especially ‘traditional’ or socially conservative. It seems more in line with the dominant strand in America’s supposedly conservative movement, which is an unrestrained libertarianism characteristic of most of the GOP.

Thomas Wagner
Thomas Wagner
2 months ago
Reply to  Chris Whybrow

Well, now we know where you stand.

AJ Mac
AJ Mac
2 months ago
Reply to  Chris Whybrow

Does the tariff-first approach promoted by Trump—either endorsed or stayed quiet about by his minions that comprise most Republicans in office—somehow get stuffed in that characteristic bag? By the way, I agree that MAGA populism is not conservative in any true or robust sense.
Are some blonde babe’s abundant breasts now meant to symbolize “unrestrained” anything-ism? They do seem hard to restrain.
I really don’t think any point on the political spectrum has a monopoly on male horniness. Nor alpha males, wimps, etc.

Stephen Barnard
Stephen Barnard
1 month ago
Reply to  Chris Whybrow

Never heard of Sydney Sweeney before now. I’d much rather be looking at Loren Strawberry…

Su Mac
Su Mac
2 months ago

That was fun

Susan Grabston
Susan Grabston
2 months ago

Tale as old as time?

Ben Jones
Ben Jones
2 months ago

Step away from the Internet, Professor. Please. Just step away from it, down this road madness lies.

Richard Craven
Richard Craven
2 months ago

Woke is a complete passion-killer. Even otherwise attractive women are an absolute turn-off if infected by woke.

Jerry Carroll
Jerry Carroll
2 months ago
Reply to  Richard Craven

Thus the boom in cat ownership and the rise in shrillness

UnHerd Reader
UnHerd Reader
2 months ago
Reply to  Jerry Carroll

Yes!!!

Robert Lloyd
Robert Lloyd
2 months ago
Reply to  Jerry Carroll

What is it about cat ownership that elicits derogatory remarks by you and JD Vance both? I had encounters with cat owning women, admitedly many, many years ago, and none of those women were priggish or prudish. I, for one, could not have divined their political views by means of their feline attachments. Have cats become political symbols?

Jerry Carroll
Jerry Carroll
2 months ago
Reply to  Robert Lloyd

They can’t get along with men or don’t want to so they get cats to fill their childless loneliness. They gravitate to other women like them and they often march for causes. There you go, cats and causes — oh, and shrillness

AJ Mac
AJ Mac
2 months ago
Reply to  Jerry Carroll

Wow, you sure understand these women. Like your political opponents you seem to know them better than they do themselves. Thank you for your service.

Billy Bob
Billy Bob
2 months ago
Reply to  AJ Mac

He’s never been with a woman has he!
To be fair I’ve lived with my missus for years and I still don’t understand half the things she says or does

UnHerd Reader
UnHerd Reader
2 months ago
Reply to  Jerry Carroll

Do men who are conservatives get dogs to fill their childless loneliness? Do men with dogs howl at the moon? Are un-woke men passionless turn-offs? Stop with the labels already.

Richard Craven
Richard Craven
2 months ago
Reply to  UnHerd Reader

I’m sure that if I was a poofter I would find woke men passionless turn-offs.

Rob N
Rob N
2 months ago
Reply to  Robert Lloyd

I don’t think JD Vance was implying that cat ladies were priggish or prudish in fact I expect he thinks that many are fairly free with their affections. Rather that they don’t want to grow up and become mothers and so keep cats in a pathetic attempt to feel like a carer and end up being bitter and unhappy, even if they are still free with their body.

Richard Craven
Richard Craven
2 months ago
Reply to  Jerry Carroll

Yes indeed.

john d rockemella
john d rockemella
2 months ago
Reply to  Richard Craven

Absolutely – couldnt agree more. Conservative, fun and bubbly and care free, over boring and pretentious liberals who say a lot but never real say anything and are often delivering very little to the word apart from their boring negative opinions.

Josef Švejk
Josef Švejk
2 months ago
Reply to  Richard Craven

Too true Richard. Due to age I am out of the mating game but woke women can be so much uglier people than normal women.

Ralph Hanke
Ralph Hanke
2 months ago

Dr. Stock even writes great fluff pieces.

Must be her sense of humor.

jward_32@yahoo.com jward_32@yahoo.com

It’s quite clear why many young women (Gen Z) have moved towards Republicans. Both attractive and white women (as often demonstrated in short-hand by blonde hair) have been denigrated for at least 10 years by the leftist race-baiters. The same way black body types were sometimes denigrated (big butts, kinky hair) by popular fashion in the past has been adopted by the new racially-conscious right-thinking orthodoxy. Blonde, attractive, and heterosexual has prompted censure by these new social engineers. Different body types have always been appreciated by men, it would be gratifying if the race-obsessed apparatchiks attempting to set up a politically orthodox fashion today would appreciate that and quit with their racist and anti-beauty agenda.

Jerry Carroll
Jerry Carroll
2 months ago

Long story short, the times are a-changin.

Kent Ausburn
Kent Ausburn
2 months ago
Reply to  Jerry Carroll

But not necessarily for the better.

Charles Hedges
Charles Hedges
2 months ago

The Left claims it wants to reduce inequality. How does it intend to reduce the inequality in looks and character between women?
Sophia Loren was born in a Naples slum . How does one reduce the inequality caused by beauty, grace, elegance, sophistification, wit,charm ?
The song ” Where did you go my lovely ” appears to be based upon the life of Sophia Loren. How does one reduce the inequality between a woman who is born beautiful and then goes on to cultivate elegance, grace, wit, charm, sophistication and one who does not ?
In summary, how does the Left intend to reduce the inequality caused by genes and cultivation ?

David Morley
David Morley
2 months ago
Reply to  Charles Hedges

According to Sophia Loren “everything you see I owe to spaghetti”. So there’s your answer.

Thomas Wagner
Thomas Wagner
2 months ago
Reply to  David Morley

God bless sphagetti.

David Morley
David Morley
2 months ago
Reply to  Charles Hedges

I think there are big points there. Perhaps she didn’t make them explicit enough. Such as the pathologising of normal behaviour, the left wing denial of what is natural by claiming this is always a cover for vested interests, oppression etc.

It is because these things manifest in ordinary everyday life that they are significant. If they were just subjects of university chat, who would care.

Charles Hedges
Charles Hedges
2 months ago
Reply to  David Morley

It is remarkable that if children take part in physically demanding sports, learn to play an instrument, taught to dance, taught manners and for girls taught ballet, they become graceful, elegnt and sophisticated. If they over eat, do no exercise and spend their life watching a screen they become, fat ungainly ill mannered slobs.
At least the communists supported ballet, classical music and sports.

Jerry Carroll
Jerry Carroll
2 months ago
Reply to  Charles Hedges

The effort to glamorize obesity should give you an idea.

John Hughes
John Hughes
2 months ago
Reply to  Charles Hedges

Peter Sarstedt was often asked whether ‘Where do you go to my lovely’ was about, or alluding to, Sophia Loren. He always said that it wasn’t.

Charles Hedges
Charles Hedges
2 months ago
Reply to  John Hughes

Very similar to her life story. Why chose “Naples ” and not Liverpool or Glasgow ?

Alex Lekas
Alex Lekas
2 months ago

The subtext of the criticism suggests that any trace of masculinity has no place among the beta males who populate the left, that they neither have an interest in attractive women or are capable to noticing one.
When the definition of sex positivity is access to birth control (which no one opposes) and free and easy abortion for those too lazy or stupid to use birth control, you are doing it wrong. No wonder social media is full of 30ish women who were thoroughly propagandized, earning their degrees, establishing careers, but having no one to share it with.

Tony Price
Tony Price
2 months ago
Reply to  Alex Lekas

I think that you will find plenty in the USA who are opposed to access to birth control. Also plenty who oppose abortion on any grounds whatsoever, fecklessness-related or not. Social media is “full” of such persons.

UnHerd Reader
UnHerd Reader
2 months ago
Reply to  Alex Lekas

No contraception is 100% effective, and the hormones in the most effective contraceptives can cause terrible side effects for many women. May I suggest that men take some responsibility with birth control ? Like maybe keeping their zippers up?

mac mahmood
mac mahmood
2 months ago

Thin gruel. What is it all about, Kathleen?

Christopher Chantrill
Christopher Chantrill
2 months ago

The dance of sex begins with the woman presenting herself. Because, as a racist-sexist-homophobe white patriarch once wrote: “All the world’s a stage…”

AJ Mac
AJ Mac
2 months ago

And all the men and women merely players.

UnHerd Reader
UnHerd Reader
2 months ago

“. . . the radical Left’s rejection of existence of something called nature, seeing the very idea as a sinister plot with patriarchal and capitalist overtones.” “The Left pretend nothing is natural.” Okay, I’m the Left, but not radical or progressive, but still left of center. I read a lot, but I’ve never read anything about the Left’s rejection of nature. Nature in what sense? Are the woods sinister, as the Puritans believed? How can nature be patriarchal or capitalist? “ . . . . nothing is natural.” What is natural? An apple? A spider? A tiger? These aren’t rhetorical questions. I need to talk to a radical leftist. Anyone here a radical leftist?

Santiago Saefjord
Santiago Saefjord
2 months ago

Fantastic writing, bravo. Excellent references too

Jim D
Jim D
2 months ago

Had to look up Sydney Sweeney as I had never heard of her nor seen her. She is okay but not what I expected based on the article. Hot? Not. Moderately attractive? OK. Needs a breast reduction? Absolutely. My ideal woman has always been Audrey Hepburn. Beautiful, elegant and classy in the little black dress, or the safari clothes she wore while volunteering in Africa. I think Sydney Sweeney is just a poseur.

Ivan Kinsman
Ivan Kinsman
16 days ago

I think the article makes some good points about the Leftie neurotic feminist types but I think is rather overcritical of the MAGA women, telling them not to get pigeon-holed and a bit snide about how they dress etc., which is basically saying “dress more modestly”. This interview is backing up the attitude of the journalist by describing what are some of the changing trends in Sweden as regards how women should be dressing with so many Muslim migrants etc.
MCC Brussels: Deep Dives: Sweden: Multiculturalism in flames? (YouTube)