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Derek Smith
Derek Smith
1 year ago

Credit where credit is due: the Daily Star’s headline last Friday was ‘Publicity-shy couple share intimate secrets with 8bn people’.

Gill Holway
Gill Holway
1 year ago
Reply to  Derek Smith

To quote my friend who muttered at me ”Load of charlatons arent they!” Yes indeed.

Vici C
Vici C
1 year ago
Reply to  Derek Smith

To be fair, the press’ unwanted intrusion is not the same as deliberately seeking a voice via the press. Privacy is not being invaded when you request attention.

Gill Holway
Gill Holway
1 year ago
Reply to  Derek Smith

To quote my friend who muttered at me ”Load of charlatons arent they!” Yes indeed.

Vici C
Vici C
1 year ago
Reply to  Derek Smith

To be fair, the press’ unwanted intrusion is not the same as deliberately seeking a voice via the press. Privacy is not being invaded when you request attention.

Derek Smith
Derek Smith
1 year ago

Credit where credit is due: the Daily Star’s headline last Friday was ‘Publicity-shy couple share intimate secrets with 8bn people’.

Cho Jinn
Cho Jinn
1 year ago

On behalf of all Americans, I apologize for Meghan Markle. Price Harry was the cool one, and we ruined him.

Brett H
Brett H
1 year ago
Reply to  Cho Jinn

Not the first time either.

Gill Holway
Gill Holway
1 year ago
Reply to  Brett H

We did a fair old job on Harry too, not entirely your fault Cho Jinn. I think the pair of them, once together, both suffered at the hands of what they thought media popularity wanted of them. Both failed.

Gill Holway
Gill Holway
1 year ago
Reply to  Brett H

We did a fair old job on Harry too, not entirely your fault Cho Jinn. I think the pair of them, once together, both suffered at the hands of what they thought media popularity wanted of them. Both failed.

Katharine Eyre
Katharine Eyre
1 year ago
Reply to  Cho Jinn

She is awful – surely the USA’s revenge for us burning down Washington in 1814. You waited 200 years, but you really stuck it to us!
But I think it is unfair to fully blame Meghan for Harry’s current, cringeworthy “woe-is-me-FOREVER” persona. Even though the constant pawing and clinging might give the impression of him being the glove puppet of the missus…he is responsible for what he does and says.
And this documentary says FAR more about America and what state it is in than it does about either Britain or the Royals.
Plus, it is hilarious and highly ironic to a) watch the Guardian slowly and quietly retreat from its defence positions and have to admit that the Sussexes are just rent-a-whingers and b) watch Sp!ked, an avowedly republican publication, run articles each week defending the monarchy. Given the choice between woke and monarchy, they clearly know the lesser evil.

Last edited 1 year ago by Katharine Eyre
CHARLES STANHOPE
CHARLES STANHOPE
1 year ago
Reply to  Katharine Eyre

Is she really worse than Wallace Simpson?

Richard Craven
Richard Craven
1 year ago

Good question, to which I genuinely don’t know the answer.

CHARLES STANHOPE
CHARLES STANHOPE
1 year ago
Reply to  Richard Craven

I only ask because Mrs Simpson lassoed the King Emperor at a time of considerable world tension.

Allison Barrows
Allison Barrows
1 year ago

If it weren’t for Wallis, the monarchy would have been stuck with a selfish little worm who admired Hitler. Thankfully, Edward VIII was a creature of no strong substance and the country was led by George VI, who gave his country the queen all leaders should aspire to emulate. Too bad she isn’t followed by Queen Anne; no one would give a thought to Diana’s illegitimate offspring.

CHARLES STANHOPE
CHARLES STANHOPE
1 year ago

The Mass Observation Archive has some interesting comments by the Great British Public on King George VI’s consort.

However that is a reasonable synopsis, even if as Mr D Frost (below) points out, it was all rather fortuitous!

Linda Hutchinson
Linda Hutchinson
1 year ago

I’ve have long thought the same and have blessed Mrs Simpson for her intervention.

CHARLES STANHOPE
CHARLES STANHOPE
1 year ago

The Mass Observation Archive has some interesting comments by the Great British Public on King George VI’s consort.

However that is a reasonable synopsis, even if as Mr D Frost (below) points out, it was all rather fortuitous!

Linda Hutchinson
Linda Hutchinson
1 year ago

I’ve have long thought the same and have blessed Mrs Simpson for her intervention.

Allison Barrows
Allison Barrows
1 year ago

If it weren’t for Wallis, the monarchy would have been stuck with a selfish little worm who admired Hitler. Thankfully, Edward VIII was a creature of no strong substance and the country was led by George VI, who gave his country the queen all leaders should aspire to emulate. Too bad she isn’t followed by Queen Anne; no one would give a thought to Diana’s illegitimate offspring.

CHARLES STANHOPE
CHARLES STANHOPE
1 year ago
Reply to  Richard Craven

I only ask because Mrs Simpson lassoed the King Emperor at a time of considerable world tension.

N Forster
N Forster
1 year ago

Yes. Apart from screwing cash out of the tax payer at regular intervals, the British public didn’t have to continually hear from Wallace Simpson.

CHARLES STANHOPE
CHARLES STANHOPE
1 year ago
Reply to  N Forster

Yes the BBC was a different organisation in those days!

CHARLES STANHOPE
CHARLES STANHOPE
1 year ago
Reply to  N Forster

Yes the BBC was a different organisation in those days!

D Frost
D Frost
1 year ago

Wallis (however unwittingly) did the British monarchy a great favor by keeping a wretched, low-minded Nazi sympathizer off the throne.

Cathy Carron
Cathy Carron
1 year ago
Reply to  D Frost

The parallels are rather astonishing. Harry donned Nazi-wear as well.

CHARLES STANHOPE
CHARLES STANHOPE
1 year ago
Reply to  Cathy Carron

Are you surprised?
The family name is the :House of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha (Haus Sachsen-Coburg und Gotha) after all.
Windsor was just a pathetic deceit at a time of crisis.

Eric Best
Eric Best
1 year ago

To equate being German with being a NAZI seems somewhat racist, no? Are you unaware of the role of George VI or Otto von Hapsburg or many other European (frequently Germanic) royals in supporting their people against the NAZIs? You are aware that Hitler was republican (ie, anti-royal)?

CHARLES STANHOPE
CHARLES STANHOPE
1 year ago
Reply to  Eric Best

Racist? What utter tosh!
Germans gave Hitler a perfectly legitimate democratic electoral victory! Do you really deny that?

Agreed some petty German ‘princelings’ opposed Adolph & Co, but I suspect as many supported him!
Were not two perhaps three of the late Prince Philip’s sisters married to prominence N*ZIS?

If UNHERD wasn’t such a ‘fire & forget’ site we might be able to discuss this further. I am certain that other commentators better read than I would be able to assess how the so called German aristocracy either supported or opposed Herr Hitler.

Astonishingly I was aware that Adolph was a Republican (of sorts). I also thought he was an Austrian, so does that make him a German or something else?

ps: I think the correct usage is HABSBURG not Hapsburg, although really it should be Lorraine as a result of the marriage of Maria Theresa in 1736, as you may know.

Last edited 1 year ago by CHARLES STANHOPE
Wim de Vriend
Wim de Vriend
1 year ago

“Germans gave Hitler a perfectly legitimate democratic electoral victory”. NOT REALLY. In the 1933 election the Nazi party got the largest share of the votes but NOT a majority. So under the German parliamentary system it was then up to President Hindenburg, whose mental agility had declined to a Biden level, to appoint a new Chancellor, who was Hitler; and from then it was all downhill.

CHARLES STANHOPE
CHARLES STANHOPE
1 year ago
Reply to  Wim de Vriend

I didn’t say he won a majority did I?

I said he WON legitimately and legally, NO ifs or buts about it!

The German people will just have to live with that unpalatable fact.

CHARLES STANHOPE
CHARLES STANHOPE
1 year ago
Reply to  Wim de Vriend

I didn’t say he won a majority did I?

I said he WON legitimately and legally, NO ifs or buts about it!

The German people will just have to live with that unpalatable fact.

Fiona Hok
Fiona Hok
1 year ago

And Adolf, not Adolph, since you’re being pedantic.

CHARLES STANHOPE
CHARLES STANHOPE
1 year ago
Reply to  Fiona Hok

Either or according to the Wikibeast.
Although wasn’t he christened Adolphus?

CHARLES STANHOPE
CHARLES STANHOPE
1 year ago
Reply to  Fiona Hok

Either or according to the Wikibeast.
Although wasn’t he christened Adolphus?

Wim de Vriend
Wim de Vriend
1 year ago

“Germans gave Hitler a perfectly legitimate democratic electoral victory”. NOT REALLY. In the 1933 election the Nazi party got the largest share of the votes but NOT a majority. So under the German parliamentary system it was then up to President Hindenburg, whose mental agility had declined to a Biden level, to appoint a new Chancellor, who was Hitler; and from then it was all downhill.

Fiona Hok
Fiona Hok
1 year ago

And Adolf, not Adolph, since you’re being pedantic.

CHARLES STANHOPE
CHARLES STANHOPE
1 year ago
Reply to  Eric Best

Racist? What utter tosh!
Germans gave Hitler a perfectly legitimate democratic electoral victory! Do you really deny that?

Agreed some petty German ‘princelings’ opposed Adolph & Co, but I suspect as many supported him!
Were not two perhaps three of the late Prince Philip’s sisters married to prominence N*ZIS?

If UNHERD wasn’t such a ‘fire & forget’ site we might be able to discuss this further. I am certain that other commentators better read than I would be able to assess how the so called German aristocracy either supported or opposed Herr Hitler.

Astonishingly I was aware that Adolph was a Republican (of sorts). I also thought he was an Austrian, so does that make him a German or something else?

ps: I think the correct usage is HABSBURG not Hapsburg, although really it should be Lorraine as a result of the marriage of Maria Theresa in 1736, as you may know.

Last edited 1 year ago by CHARLES STANHOPE
Eric Watson
Eric Watson
1 year ago

Actually, since the accession of Charles III, they are the house of Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-GlĂŒcksburg. If you are going to insist on “correct” names, you should at least get it right.

CHARLES STANHOPE
CHARLES STANHOPE
1 year ago
Reply to  Eric Watson

Stop splitting hairs and being a “clever clogs”, it ill becomes you!

Kerry Davie
Kerry Davie
1 year ago

Maybe he’s ‘splitting heirs’.

CHARLES STANHOPE
CHARLES STANHOPE
1 year ago
Reply to  Kerry Davie

Very good!

CHARLES STANHOPE
CHARLES STANHOPE
1 year ago
Reply to  Kerry Davie

Very good!

Kerry Davie
Kerry Davie
1 year ago

Maybe he’s ‘splitting heirs’.

CHARLES STANHOPE
CHARLES STANHOPE
1 year ago
Reply to  Eric Watson

Stop splitting hairs and being a “clever clogs”, it ill becomes you!

Eric Best
Eric Best
1 year ago

To equate being German with being a NAZI seems somewhat racist, no? Are you unaware of the role of George VI or Otto von Hapsburg or many other European (frequently Germanic) royals in supporting their people against the NAZIs? You are aware that Hitler was republican (ie, anti-royal)?

Eric Watson
Eric Watson
1 year ago

Actually, since the accession of Charles III, they are the house of Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-GlĂŒcksburg. If you are going to insist on “correct” names, you should at least get it right.

CHARLES STANHOPE
CHARLES STANHOPE
1 year ago
Reply to  Cathy Carron

Are you surprised?
The family name is the :House of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha (Haus Sachsen-Coburg und Gotha) after all.
Windsor was just a pathetic deceit at a time of crisis.

john O'Neal
john O'Neal
1 year ago
Reply to  D Frost

And gays love him, because he too enjoyed dressing as a circus clown.

CHARLES STANHOPE
CHARLES STANHOPE
1 year ago
Reply to  D Frost

Reluctant as I am to admit it,I think the Archbishop of Canterbury, Cosmo Gordon Lang, deserves a lot of praise for standing his ground over this issue.

Cathy Carron
Cathy Carron
1 year ago
Reply to  D Frost

The parallels are rather astonishing. Harry donned Nazi-wear as well.

john O'Neal
john O'Neal
1 year ago
Reply to  D Frost

And gays love him, because he too enjoyed dressing as a circus clown.

CHARLES STANHOPE
CHARLES STANHOPE
1 year ago
Reply to  D Frost

Reluctant as I am to admit it,I think the Archbishop of Canterbury, Cosmo Gordon Lang, deserves a lot of praise for standing his ground over this issue.

Cathy Carron
Cathy Carron
1 year ago

Worse? Who knows- but just as money and status grubbing, yes.

JR Stoker
JR Stoker
1 year ago

Yes, much worse. Wallis might have been bitter, but she didn’t show it, appreciated what she had, and kept her mouth shut

John Solomon
John Solomon
1 year ago
Reply to  JR Stoker

But Wallis probably knew that she would not get anything better – Megan could easily ditch Harry if something better (in Hollywood) came her way.

Martin Smith
Martin Smith
1 year ago
Reply to  John Solomon

But it won’t…

Gill Holway
Gill Holway
1 year ago
Reply to  Martin Smith

Youre right, should she and Harry part shes already displayed herself as dangerously damaged goods in a rather international way, Who with any credibility would willingly take her on? Presumably someone SHE would have to pay.

Gill Holway
Gill Holway
1 year ago
Reply to  Martin Smith

Youre right, should she and Harry part shes already displayed herself as dangerously damaged goods in a rather international way, Who with any credibility would willingly take her on? Presumably someone SHE would have to pay.

Kat L
Kat L
1 year ago
Reply to  John Solomon

At 40 it’s a big if at this point since she was never on the A- list


Martin Smith
Martin Smith
1 year ago
Reply to  John Solomon

But it won’t…

Kat L
Kat L
1 year ago
Reply to  John Solomon

At 40 it’s a big if at this point since she was never on the A- list


Julian Farrows
Julian Farrows
1 year ago
Reply to  JR Stoker

In recently-discovered letters to her ex-lover, it was found that she deeply regretted fomenting a relationship with Edward, claiming that he was insufferably dull. Once the glam and glitz of royal life evaporated, there wasn’t much to him apparently.

Lynda Ovens
Lynda Ovens
1 year ago
Reply to  Julian Farrows

You only had to look at him, Edward, to see he would never be the life and soul of any party. It was just that he was a royal.

Lynda Ovens
Lynda Ovens
1 year ago
Reply to  Julian Farrows

You only had to look at him, Edward, to see he would never be the life and soul of any party. It was just that he was a royal.

Steve Murray
Steve Murray
1 year ago
Reply to  JR Stoker

Except when Eddie needed servicing.

John Solomon
John Solomon
1 year ago
Reply to  JR Stoker

But Wallis probably knew that she would not get anything better – Megan could easily ditch Harry if something better (in Hollywood) came her way.

Julian Farrows
Julian Farrows
1 year ago
Reply to  JR Stoker

In recently-discovered letters to her ex-lover, it was found that she deeply regretted fomenting a relationship with Edward, claiming that he was insufferably dull. Once the glam and glitz of royal life evaporated, there wasn’t much to him apparently.

Steve Murray
Steve Murray
1 year ago
Reply to  JR Stoker

Except when Eddie needed servicing.

john O'Neal
john O'Neal
1 year ago

Squirrelly people choose squirrelly mates.

Iris C
Iris C
1 year ago

Wallace Simpson wasn’t an aristocrat but she came from a respected American family. She also tried to persuade Edward V111 nor to abdicate, putting him and the country before her self-interest. It was he that would have none of it..

CHARLES STANHOPE
CHARLES STANHOPE
1 year ago
Reply to  Iris C

That was the answer I was hoping someone would give. I thank you.

Persephone
Persephone
1 year ago
Reply to  Iris C

She, like Megan, was part of what the 18th Century English nobility would have called “the demi-monde”. That is Harry’s real crime in the eyes of his family, marrying the kind of gal one ought only to keep as a mistress.

Gill Holway
Gill Holway
1 year ago
Reply to  Persephone

As Phillip said, ‘One steps out with actresses, One doesnt marry them!’

Roger Sponge
Roger Sponge
1 year ago
Reply to  Persephone

I don’t know what his family think of Harry. I’m puzzled how you do.

Gill Holway
Gill Holway
1 year ago
Reply to  Persephone

As Phillip said, ‘One steps out with actresses, One doesnt marry them!’

Roger Sponge
Roger Sponge
1 year ago
Reply to  Persephone

I don’t know what his family think of Harry. I’m puzzled how you do.

CHARLES STANHOPE
CHARLES STANHOPE
1 year ago
Reply to  Iris C

That was the answer I was hoping someone would give. I thank you.

Persephone
Persephone
1 year ago
Reply to  Iris C

She, like Megan, was part of what the 18th Century English nobility would have called “the demi-monde”. That is Harry’s real crime in the eyes of his family, marrying the kind of gal one ought only to keep as a mistress.

Rick Abrams
Rick Abrams
1 year ago

Here’s a coincidence. Edward and Wallis also have a connection to N. Saint Andrews Place in Hollywood as does Meghan. I know that for a fact since I personally witnessed both.

Dougie Undersub
Dougie Undersub
1 year ago

A rare error from you, Charles. It’s Wallis.

CHARLES STANHOPE
CHARLES STANHOPE
1 year ago

I stand corrected, thank you!

Last edited 1 year ago by CHARLES STANHOPE
CHARLES STANHOPE
CHARLES STANHOPE
1 year ago

I stand corrected, thank you!

Last edited 1 year ago by CHARLES STANHOPE
Vici C
Vici C
1 year ago

No, Simpson dallied with an actual king, not a prince many times removed.

Cathy Carron
Cathy Carron
1 year ago

Seemingly so….Wallace had her limits. She didn’t blubber all over the TV or write books. She did remain classy and remote. Wallace liked her money and baubles and she was given them discretely by her royal. This is not Meghan at all, a woman who has put a fog-horn on Harry to play every card she can and in this case the most odious is the race card. Meghan is ‘special’ in a truly horrendous way. A way the two women are similar is that they culled the miscreant ‘Spares’ from the main family to its advantage when all was said and done.

Last edited 1 year ago by Cathy Carron
Lynda Ovens
Lynda Ovens
1 year ago

Very simular, both wore/wear the trousers, as the males too wimpy!

Richard Craven
Richard Craven
1 year ago

Good question, to which I genuinely don’t know the answer.

N Forster
N Forster
1 year ago

Yes. Apart from screwing cash out of the tax payer at regular intervals, the British public didn’t have to continually hear from Wallace Simpson.

D Frost
D Frost
1 year ago

Wallis (however unwittingly) did the British monarchy a great favor by keeping a wretched, low-minded Nazi sympathizer off the throne.

Cathy Carron
Cathy Carron
1 year ago

Worse? Who knows- but just as money and status grubbing, yes.

JR Stoker
JR Stoker
1 year ago

Yes, much worse. Wallis might have been bitter, but she didn’t show it, appreciated what she had, and kept her mouth shut

john O'Neal
john O'Neal
1 year ago

Squirrelly people choose squirrelly mates.

Iris C
Iris C
1 year ago

Wallace Simpson wasn’t an aristocrat but she came from a respected American family. She also tried to persuade Edward V111 nor to abdicate, putting him and the country before her self-interest. It was he that would have none of it..

Rick Abrams
Rick Abrams
1 year ago

Here’s a coincidence. Edward and Wallis also have a connection to N. Saint Andrews Place in Hollywood as does Meghan. I know that for a fact since I personally witnessed both.

Dougie Undersub
Dougie Undersub
1 year ago

A rare error from you, Charles. It’s Wallis.

Vici C
Vici C
1 year ago

No, Simpson dallied with an actual king, not a prince many times removed.

Cathy Carron
Cathy Carron
1 year ago

Seemingly so….Wallace had her limits. She didn’t blubber all over the TV or write books. She did remain classy and remote. Wallace liked her money and baubles and she was given them discretely by her royal. This is not Meghan at all, a woman who has put a fog-horn on Harry to play every card she can and in this case the most odious is the race card. Meghan is ‘special’ in a truly horrendous way. A way the two women are similar is that they culled the miscreant ‘Spares’ from the main family to its advantage when all was said and done.

Last edited 1 year ago by Cathy Carron
Lynda Ovens
Lynda Ovens
1 year ago

Very simular, both wore/wear the trousers, as the males too wimpy!

Mark Melvin
Mark Melvin
1 year ago
Reply to  Katharine Eyre

Glad you noticed that about Spiked, Katharine. Not just Republicans but ex-Troskyists who have been booted out of the party for being too small c conservative and actually believing facts. Lots of what they write is the usual stuff 19-year old earnest Student Union types would write in the 1970s but always amazingly respectful in particular of QEII. But yes, they do hold the view that some of the things they oppose philosophically are likely a lesser evil than what the current lefties (and I do include the present day Conservative Party as current lefties) would like to impose. Fascinating.

polidori redux
polidori redux
1 year ago
Reply to  Mark Melvin

Maybe I am still a bit studenty myself, but I think that quite a lot of what comes out of Spiked is actually well observed and well argued, not just the monarchy stuff.
As for The Conservative Party – it is just a void. I visit Conservative Home occasionally. I am waiting for reality to come crashing through the front door – It will.

Katharine Eyre
Katharine Eyre
1 year ago
Reply to  polidori redux

Yes, I quite like what they produce. Brendan O’Neill’s rants are a joy to read. No punches pulled! What does annoy me as it does come across a bit “1-Pound Shots Night at the Student Union” is the peppering of everything with slogans like “the liberal elites”…with which people can quickly identify, but which is never precisely defined.

harry storm
harry storm
1 year ago
Reply to  Katharine Eyre

I agree with your comment about “the Liberal elites” or “the new elites.” It’s the one thing about BO’s articles (and many others) that rankles.

harry storm
harry storm
1 year ago
Reply to  Katharine Eyre

I agree with your comment about “the Liberal elites” or “the new elites.” It’s the one thing about BO’s articles (and many others) that rankles.

Katharine Eyre
Katharine Eyre
1 year ago
Reply to  polidori redux

Yes, I quite like what they produce. Brendan O’Neill’s rants are a joy to read. No punches pulled! What does annoy me as it does come across a bit “1-Pound Shots Night at the Student Union” is the peppering of everything with slogans like “the liberal elites”…with which people can quickly identify, but which is never precisely defined.

harry storm
harry storm
1 year ago
Reply to  Mark Melvin

Rubbish about Spiked (19-year-old earnest SU types, do me a favour) and rubbish about the Conservative Party (wet, as MT would have said, but hardly leftie or woke, even if they sometimes bend a bit in that direction). Hyperbolic nonsense.

polidori redux
polidori redux
1 year ago
Reply to  Mark Melvin

Maybe I am still a bit studenty myself, but I think that quite a lot of what comes out of Spiked is actually well observed and well argued, not just the monarchy stuff.
As for The Conservative Party – it is just a void. I visit Conservative Home occasionally. I am waiting for reality to come crashing through the front door – It will.

harry storm
harry storm
1 year ago
Reply to  Mark Melvin

Rubbish about Spiked (19-year-old earnest SU types, do me a favour) and rubbish about the Conservative Party (wet, as MT would have said, but hardly leftie or woke, even if they sometimes bend a bit in that direction). Hyperbolic nonsense.

CHARLES STANHOPE
CHARLES STANHOPE
1 year ago
Reply to  Katharine Eyre

Slightly off-piste but I have small writing desk and a ‘fire screen’ that it is claimed one of my ancestors plundered from the White House on that famous day. A near neighbour also claims to have the Presidential Chamber Pot, looted on the same occasion!

On the anniversary, the 24th August, we meet up for a celebratory supper, using the aforesaid Chamber Pot as a ‘loving cup’. The Corona-Washington supper was the most raucous yet, with many cries to the fame of Major General Robert Ross, the architect of that now forgotten military triumph.

Last edited 1 year ago by CHARLES STANHOPE
Kirsten Walstedt
Kirsten Walstedt
1 year ago

A common joke in the U.S. is that the owner of every historic house on the national registry claims that, “George Washington slept here.” It seems the British equivalent is, “George Washington pissed here.”

CHARLES STANHOPE
CHARLES STANHOPE
1 year ago

In this part case it was one James Madison!
I gather there a few of Napoleon’s Pots still around.

CHARLES STANHOPE
CHARLES STANHOPE
1 year ago

In this part case it was one James Madison!
I gather there a few of Napoleon’s Pots still around.

Kirsten Walstedt
Kirsten Walstedt
1 year ago

A common joke in the U.S. is that the owner of every historic house on the national registry claims that, “George Washington slept here.” It seems the British equivalent is, “George Washington pissed here.”

Kirsten Walstedt
Kirsten Walstedt
1 year ago
Reply to  Katharine Eyre

The joke is on us because she is inflicted on Americans just as much as she is on you.

CHARLES STANHOPE
CHARLES STANHOPE
1 year ago
Reply to  Katharine Eyre

Is she really worse than Wallace Simpson?

Mark Melvin
Mark Melvin
1 year ago
Reply to  Katharine Eyre

Glad you noticed that about Spiked, Katharine. Not just Republicans but ex-Troskyists who have been booted out of the party for being too small c conservative and actually believing facts. Lots of what they write is the usual stuff 19-year old earnest Student Union types would write in the 1970s but always amazingly respectful in particular of QEII. But yes, they do hold the view that some of the things they oppose philosophically are likely a lesser evil than what the current lefties (and I do include the present day Conservative Party as current lefties) would like to impose. Fascinating.

CHARLES STANHOPE
CHARLES STANHOPE
1 year ago
Reply to  Katharine Eyre

Slightly off-piste but I have small writing desk and a ‘fire screen’ that it is claimed one of my ancestors plundered from the White House on that famous day. A near neighbour also claims to have the Presidential Chamber Pot, looted on the same occasion!

On the anniversary, the 24th August, we meet up for a celebratory supper, using the aforesaid Chamber Pot as a ‘loving cup’. The Corona-Washington supper was the most raucous yet, with many cries to the fame of Major General Robert Ross, the architect of that now forgotten military triumph.

Last edited 1 year ago by CHARLES STANHOPE
Kirsten Walstedt
Kirsten Walstedt
1 year ago
Reply to  Katharine Eyre

The joke is on us because she is inflicted on Americans just as much as she is on you.

polidori redux
polidori redux
1 year ago
Reply to  Cho Jinn

If it wasn’t her it would have been someone else. Harry was one of those accidents waiting to happen. I have a residual sympathy for him as I remember him and his brother walking behind their mother’s coffin in full view of the whole world. Some things are harder than others.

pessimist extremus
pessimist extremus
1 year ago
Reply to  polidori redux

Here we go again. I have a residual sympathy for him as I remember him and his brother walking behind their mother’s coffin in full view of the whole world. Some things are harder than others.” – sure, but this can’t be the main theme of one’s life? He’s almost 40, for God’s sake. As for the “Why don’t you just leave me alone?” – maybe because he needs them not to? Why not just go away, start a new life with all the wonderful plans they have voiced or written? Why cage the kids and not let them have their big family from both parents? What’s the point? (ok, ok, I know, public sympathy and approval, but that does not make it any less evil).

pessimist extremus
pessimist extremus
1 year ago
Reply to  polidori redux

Here we go again. I have a residual sympathy for him as I remember him and his brother walking behind their mother’s coffin in full view of the whole world. Some things are harder than others.” – sure, but this can’t be the main theme of one’s life? He’s almost 40, for God’s sake. As for the “Why don’t you just leave me alone?” – maybe because he needs them not to? Why not just go away, start a new life with all the wonderful plans they have voiced or written? Why cage the kids and not let them have their big family from both parents? What’s the point? (ok, ok, I know, public sympathy and approval, but that does not make it any less evil).

Paddy Taylor
Paddy Taylor
1 year ago
Reply to  Cho Jinn

Price Harry?
Somewhat Freudian slip to describe a man who sold his family and his country out.

Last edited 1 year ago by Paddy Taylor
Stephen Wright
Stephen Wright
1 year ago
Reply to  Cho Jinn

She is bad but he is too, no apology needed. He was never cool trust me. It was a short term illusion.

Rose
Rose
1 year ago
Reply to  Stephen Wright

Well said! I wish I had read this comment before writing my ten pages!

Rose
Rose
1 year ago
Reply to  Stephen Wright

Well said! I wish I had read this comment before writing my ten pages!

Geoff Cooper
Geoff Cooper
1 year ago
Reply to  Cho Jinn

For what it’s worth, I never thought him cool, rather a bit thick, and gauche. William and Cate were always the real cool cats, which is lucky really because they’re the ones who are going to be King and Queen one day. And that of course, is what is really at the root of all the Sussex’s endless, childish whingeing.
Eventually everyone will get bored of these charmless nonentities.

Rick Abrams
Rick Abrams
1 year ago
Reply to  Cho Jinn

Do you even know Meghan? On behavior of all Americans, I apologize for you.

Wim de Vriend
Wim de Vriend
1 year ago
Reply to  Rick Abrams

I suppose you meant “On behalf of …” We’ve got enough behavior in America.

Kat L
Kat L
1 year ago
Reply to  Rick Abrams

No one need know her on a personal level to see exact who she is.

Wim de Vriend
Wim de Vriend
1 year ago
Reply to  Rick Abrams

I suppose you meant “On behalf of …” We’ve got enough behavior in America.

Kat L
Kat L
1 year ago
Reply to  Rick Abrams

No one need know her on a personal level to see exact who she is.

Rose
Rose
1 year ago
Reply to  Cho Jinn

Thank you for your graciousness. We in England know too that all these stories are complicated, but a marriage expert told me she sees Harry’s painful childhood loss ( I lost my mother at the same age so he’s not the only one) as leaving him open to exploitation. But he is an adult with a free will! He might have considered his brother also lost their Mum before finding every excuse to pucker his bottom lip and bleat himself into untold wealth.. Meghan appears to be efficient at dumping her own family and I’m sorry but she had a choice
 as an independent well practised star from Suits, she is not the 18 year old virgin, motherless lady thatPrincess Diana was, – she could have chosen to help Harry work with his family and country, – we all loved him and we loved seeing him happy with Meghan. The Royal Family had learned their lesson from Princess Diana, they wanted Meghan to be treated much, much better than they had treated Diana.. Is M and H’s behaviour really saving the world, or just “bigging up” themselves, – mocking bowing to an old lady who has been unbelievable in her modesty, and dedication to Harry’s country and all else? Are Meghan and Harry really saving the world by getting over $100 million for doing their best to rubbish and demean the entire people of the UK? Meghan is no Innocent and Harry has turned out to be a money grabbing drip who has totally betrayed his family and totally let down the soldiers he worked with. I “salute” whingeing Harry with 11 pieces of silver and thank him for zero, except for the laugh Dead Ringers provides, at their expense, not that they care, 
 catching private jets, wearing ÂŁ10,000 dresses and for exactly what WORK?? Ahh, just cashing in on his title and privileges! The UK and the Royal Family may not be perfect but they are good enough for me and I prefer their behaviour a million percent more than that of Harry and Meghan! M and H’s comments re the Commonwealth, Brexit and racism are disgraceful – the ignorance and self-interest displayed is beyond belief wether you agree with Brexit and the Commonwealth or not! As for Meghan
 if you truly deeply love your partner, you do not pour this much effort into scorning his upbringing, his family, his country and doing your utmost to sever him from all that you are determinedly cashing in on!!

Kat L
Kat L
1 year ago
Reply to  Rose

Excellent comment.

Lynda Ovens
Lynda Ovens
1 year ago
Reply to  Rose

Also it is the part coloured people who seem to bee the most racist of all. Maybe they think they cannot belong in either camp, so bleat from the sidelines.

Kat L
Kat L
1 year ago
Reply to  Rose

Excellent comment.

Lynda Ovens
Lynda Ovens
1 year ago
Reply to  Rose

Also it is the part coloured people who seem to bee the most racist of all. Maybe they think they cannot belong in either camp, so bleat from the sidelines.

Melissa Martin
Melissa Martin
1 year ago
Reply to  Cho Jinn

I just wish she’d stop insulting our intelligence.

Brett H
Brett H
1 year ago
Reply to  Cho Jinn

Not the first time either.

Katharine Eyre
Katharine Eyre
1 year ago
Reply to  Cho Jinn

She is awful – surely the USA’s revenge for us burning down Washington in 1814. You waited 200 years, but you really stuck it to us!
But I think it is unfair to fully blame Meghan for Harry’s current, cringeworthy “woe-is-me-FOREVER” persona. Even though the constant pawing and clinging might give the impression of him being the glove puppet of the missus…he is responsible for what he does and says.
And this documentary says FAR more about America and what state it is in than it does about either Britain or the Royals.
Plus, it is hilarious and highly ironic to a) watch the Guardian slowly and quietly retreat from its defence positions and have to admit that the Sussexes are just rent-a-whingers and b) watch Sp!ked, an avowedly republican publication, run articles each week defending the monarchy. Given the choice between woke and monarchy, they clearly know the lesser evil.

Last edited 1 year ago by Katharine Eyre
polidori redux
polidori redux
1 year ago
Reply to  Cho Jinn

If it wasn’t her it would have been someone else. Harry was one of those accidents waiting to happen. I have a residual sympathy for him as I remember him and his brother walking behind their mother’s coffin in full view of the whole world. Some things are harder than others.

Paddy Taylor
Paddy Taylor
1 year ago
Reply to  Cho Jinn

Price Harry?
Somewhat Freudian slip to describe a man who sold his family and his country out.

Last edited 1 year ago by Paddy Taylor
Stephen Wright
Stephen Wright
1 year ago
Reply to  Cho Jinn

She is bad but he is too, no apology needed. He was never cool trust me. It was a short term illusion.

Geoff Cooper
Geoff Cooper
1 year ago
Reply to  Cho Jinn

For what it’s worth, I never thought him cool, rather a bit thick, and gauche. William and Cate were always the real cool cats, which is lucky really because they’re the ones who are going to be King and Queen one day. And that of course, is what is really at the root of all the Sussex’s endless, childish whingeing.
Eventually everyone will get bored of these charmless nonentities.

Rick Abrams
Rick Abrams
1 year ago
Reply to  Cho Jinn

Do you even know Meghan? On behavior of all Americans, I apologize for you.

Rose
Rose
1 year ago
Reply to  Cho Jinn

Thank you for your graciousness. We in England know too that all these stories are complicated, but a marriage expert told me she sees Harry’s painful childhood loss ( I lost my mother at the same age so he’s not the only one) as leaving him open to exploitation. But he is an adult with a free will! He might have considered his brother also lost their Mum before finding every excuse to pucker his bottom lip and bleat himself into untold wealth.. Meghan appears to be efficient at dumping her own family and I’m sorry but she had a choice
 as an independent well practised star from Suits, she is not the 18 year old virgin, motherless lady thatPrincess Diana was, – she could have chosen to help Harry work with his family and country, – we all loved him and we loved seeing him happy with Meghan. The Royal Family had learned their lesson from Princess Diana, they wanted Meghan to be treated much, much better than they had treated Diana.. Is M and H’s behaviour really saving the world, or just “bigging up” themselves, – mocking bowing to an old lady who has been unbelievable in her modesty, and dedication to Harry’s country and all else? Are Meghan and Harry really saving the world by getting over $100 million for doing their best to rubbish and demean the entire people of the UK? Meghan is no Innocent and Harry has turned out to be a money grabbing drip who has totally betrayed his family and totally let down the soldiers he worked with. I “salute” whingeing Harry with 11 pieces of silver and thank him for zero, except for the laugh Dead Ringers provides, at their expense, not that they care, 
 catching private jets, wearing ÂŁ10,000 dresses and for exactly what WORK?? Ahh, just cashing in on his title and privileges! The UK and the Royal Family may not be perfect but they are good enough for me and I prefer their behaviour a million percent more than that of Harry and Meghan! M and H’s comments re the Commonwealth, Brexit and racism are disgraceful – the ignorance and self-interest displayed is beyond belief wether you agree with Brexit and the Commonwealth or not! As for Meghan
 if you truly deeply love your partner, you do not pour this much effort into scorning his upbringing, his family, his country and doing your utmost to sever him from all that you are determinedly cashing in on!!

Melissa Martin
Melissa Martin
1 year ago
Reply to  Cho Jinn

I just wish she’d stop insulting our intelligence.

Cho Jinn
Cho Jinn
1 year ago

On behalf of all Americans, I apologize for Meghan Markle. Price Harry was the cool one, and we ruined him.

Hugh Bryant
Hugh Bryant
1 year ago

Where this narrative always comes unstuck is that Harry and Meghan could, had they really wished it, simply withdrawn from public life and lived quietly away from the public eye. But she would never have gone along with that.

Nancy G
Nancy G
1 year ago
Reply to  Hugh Bryant

Hugh Bryant is right. Being, as they claimed, averse to publicity and having, as they claimed, ‘a passion’ for Africa, H + M could have gone to Botswana or similar for a few years, rented a ranch and devoted themselves to charitable projects (schools, hospitals, sanitation). The photographers would have followed them for a while then would have got bored and gone home, leaving the publicity-shy Markles to do their good works away from the public eye….

Last edited 1 year ago by Nancy G
Ms Stripes
Ms Stripes
1 year ago
Reply to  Nancy G

That result would have made Harry much happier, I think. I initially thought she might be good for him, as he seemed to need a woman with a firm hand. But it became clear rather quickly that she wanted them to be the next incarnation of the Obamas. She seems to prefer a platform for glamor, attention, and money. None of this rigamarole seems to be helping Harry.

Martin Smith
Martin Smith
1 year ago
Reply to  Nancy G

They love Africa so much that they have made themselves unwelcome in South Africa by their thoughtless lies.

Diane Tasker
Diane Tasker
1 year ago
Reply to  Nancy G

Mmmm!

Last edited 1 year ago by Diane Tasker
Gill Holway
Gill Holway
1 year ago
Reply to  Nancy G

Yeah, Right!…as they say!

Ms Stripes
Ms Stripes
1 year ago
Reply to  Nancy G

That result would have made Harry much happier, I think. I initially thought she might be good for him, as he seemed to need a woman with a firm hand. But it became clear rather quickly that she wanted them to be the next incarnation of the Obamas. She seems to prefer a platform for glamor, attention, and money. None of this rigamarole seems to be helping Harry.

Martin Smith
Martin Smith
1 year ago
Reply to  Nancy G

They love Africa so much that they have made themselves unwelcome in South Africa by their thoughtless lies.

Diane Tasker
Diane Tasker
1 year ago
Reply to  Nancy G

Mmmm!

Last edited 1 year ago by Diane Tasker
Gill Holway
Gill Holway
1 year ago
Reply to  Nancy G

Yeah, Right!…as they say!

Cathy Carron
Cathy Carron
1 year ago
Reply to  Hugh Bryant

Meghan is desperate for fame and attention- from the get-go – which just makes her so unappealing- from the get-go.

Nancy G
Nancy G
1 year ago
Reply to  Hugh Bryant

Hugh Bryant is right. Being, as they claimed, averse to publicity and having, as they claimed, ‘a passion’ for Africa, H + M could have gone to Botswana or similar for a few years, rented a ranch and devoted themselves to charitable projects (schools, hospitals, sanitation). The photographers would have followed them for a while then would have got bored and gone home, leaving the publicity-shy Markles to do their good works away from the public eye….

Last edited 1 year ago by Nancy G
Cathy Carron
Cathy Carron
1 year ago
Reply to  Hugh Bryant

Meghan is desperate for fame and attention- from the get-go – which just makes her so unappealing- from the get-go.

Hugh Bryant
Hugh Bryant
1 year ago

Where this narrative always comes unstuck is that Harry and Meghan could, had they really wished it, simply withdrawn from public life and lived quietly away from the public eye. But she would never have gone along with that.

Brett H
Brett H
1 year ago

Even an article about these two is as ridiculous as they are.

Walter Marvell
Walter Marvell
1 year ago
Reply to  Brett H

They are the perfect ambasssadors of a hysterical credo of identity politics that is an industry in itself. They betray the vast majority of non whites in this country who do not plead victimhood and grievance and do not need this narcissitic pair of media millionaires to instruct or inspire them.

Last edited 1 year ago by Walter Marvell
Walter Marvell
Walter Marvell
1 year ago
Reply to  Brett H

They are the perfect ambasssadors of a hysterical credo of identity politics that is an industry in itself. They betray the vast majority of non whites in this country who do not plead victimhood and grievance and do not need this narcissitic pair of media millionaires to instruct or inspire them.

Last edited 1 year ago by Walter Marvell
Brett H
Brett H
1 year ago

Even an article about these two is as ridiculous as they are.

polidori redux
polidori redux
1 year ago

It’s worth taking a glance at The Daily Mail. Not to read it, God forbid, but to see the sheer number of articles dedicated to this pair and their story. I assume that the editor know what he is doing.
My prediction: This affair will run longer in the US because it provides ammunication for the national sport of race-hustling, but eventually, even there, the media cavalcade will move on to the next great proftable cause. Meghan will pocket the dosh and dump Harry. Harry will become an unkempt recluse, consumed by self pity.
By the way, what is the problem with being a minor royal? It sounds like a great billet to me. You get a fancy house, more money than you meagre talents would ever muster by themselves and waiters to fawn over you at expensive eateries. I would swap lives for that. Look up Lord Bath of Longleat. 74 wifelets (according to The Daily Mail) and his own safari park. Bluddy Nora! A life well lived!
PS: i think Tanya has over-egged this a tad.

Russell Hamilton
Russell Hamilton
1 year ago
Reply to  polidori redux

“By the way, what is the problem with being a minor royal?”

Wasn’t the Queen Mother furious at Edward V111 stepping down because she liked her life as wife of the spare, and didn’t want to be Queen?

” it is a war not of substance but of style”

I think that’s wrong – the difference between the Cambridges and the Sussexes is that of egos under control and egos out of control. The Cambridges are adults, the others are adolescents.

Paul Nathanson
Paul Nathanson
1 year ago

The Queen Mother had at least one other reason for being angry, not a selfish reason. Her husband didn’t want to be king any more than she wanted to be queen. He had a speech impediment that made public speaking an ordeal not only for him but also for her and for the public. Perhaps she realized also, even before the war, that Edward and Wallis were Nazi sympathizers.

Paul Nathanson
Paul Nathanson
1 year ago

The Queen Mother had at least one other reason for being angry, not a selfish reason. Her husband didn’t want to be king any more than she wanted to be queen. He had a speech impediment that made public speaking an ordeal not only for him but also for her and for the public. Perhaps she realized also, even before the war, that Edward and Wallis were Nazi sympathizers.

Chris England
Chris England
1 year ago
Reply to  polidori redux

Try reading the times – it’s full of it.
I think, perhaps like the Crown – it’s unfair to make up a story and badge it as a documentary when the subject has no right of reply.

polidori redux
polidori redux
1 year ago
Reply to  Chris England

Hadn’t realised. I don’t subscribe to The Times. I only got two free reads a week.
Evan less forgivable, as The Times purports to be a serious paper

john O'Neal
john O'Neal
1 year ago
Reply to  Chris England

No reader mail?

michael stanwick
michael stanwick
1 year ago
Reply to  Chris England

The Times has taken a definite side turning towards a more gossipy magazine style format. There are smatterings of articles using emotion nomenclature. I have noticed this for about a couple of weeks. Perhaps I am reading to much into it.

Rose
Rose
1 year ago

I ended my Times subscription as the comments section was dominated by trolls from China
 it was eerie and frightening! Some tried to stand up to them but the troll machinery was/is relentless.

Chris England
Chris England
1 year ago
Reply to  Rose

Well done for managing to end the subscription. Every time I try they just reduce the price until I give in.

Chris England
Chris England
1 year ago
Reply to  Rose

Well done for managing to end the subscription. Every time I try they just reduce the price until I give in.

Rose
Rose
1 year ago

I ended my Times subscription as the comments section was dominated by trolls from China
 it was eerie and frightening! Some tried to stand up to them but the troll machinery was/is relentless.

polidori redux
polidori redux
1 year ago
Reply to  Chris England

Hadn’t realised. I don’t subscribe to The Times. I only got two free reads a week.
Evan less forgivable, as The Times purports to be a serious paper

john O'Neal
john O'Neal
1 year ago
Reply to  Chris England

No reader mail?

michael stanwick
michael stanwick
1 year ago
Reply to  Chris England

The Times has taken a definite side turning towards a more gossipy magazine style format. There are smatterings of articles using emotion nomenclature. I have noticed this for about a couple of weeks. Perhaps I am reading to much into it.

Richard Craven
Richard Craven
1 year ago
Reply to  polidori redux

The comparison with Lord Bath isn’t really apt, as most of Harry’s troubles stem from his being the second son. The oldest son inheriting the title and the estate a la Bath gets an oven-ready role; spares have to create their own.
Incidentally, Longleat’s present incumbent was in my year doing Philosophy at UCL in the mid-90’s. Nice bloke.

polidori redux
polidori redux
1 year ago
Reply to  Richard Craven

Yes I accept what you say. I realised as much myself but hoped you wouldn’t notice!
I was just trying to show how much fun a chap can have with a bit of money and oodles of social status. I still think that argument is a good one.

Dominic S
Dominic S
1 year ago
Reply to  Richard Craven

Harry was NEVER a “spare”. Charles was heir, and William was the spare. Then when Charles acceded to the throne William became the heir, and his eldest son became the spare.

Seldom
Seldom
1 year ago
Reply to  Dominic S

I don’t think that’s what “spare” refers to. It’s not the next in line, but a second child that exists to make sure there will be an heir in case something happens to the eldest. Like a spare tyre, the second child is a surplus that everyone hopes will not be needed.

David Taylor
David Taylor
1 year ago
Reply to  Dominic S

Harry was the ‘spare’ until Prince George arrived i.e. 2nd in line should anything happen to William

John Ramsden
John Ramsden
1 year ago
Reply to  David Taylor

Prince William was and is “heir apparent”, and Prince Harry was (but no longer is) “heir presumptive”. The latter means a second in line who can be displaced downward in line of succession by subsequent births, such as that of Prince George.

John Ramsden
John Ramsden
1 year ago
Reply to  David Taylor

Prince William was and is “heir apparent”, and Prince Harry was (but no longer is) “heir presumptive”. The latter means a second in line who can be displaced downward in line of succession by subsequent births, such as that of Prince George.

Helen Manson
Helen Manson
1 year ago
Reply to  Dominic S

Perhaps the book would be better titled ‘Going Spare’ as in being angry or upset.

Gill Holway
Gill Holway
1 year ago
Reply to  Helen Manson

Surely one has to learn very early on, should you be unlucky enough to be in the succession,that nothing is by any means certain except the rather fancy amount of pocket money youre born into. Actually gaining the throne must be the worst card in the pack. There are bonuses however, such as money and travel and if I were lucky enough to be handed all that , the worst card of all has to be achieving the Monarchy. Whatever is Harrys’ problem, other than his wife?

Gill Holway
Gill Holway
1 year ago
Reply to  Helen Manson

Surely one has to learn very early on, should you be unlucky enough to be in the succession,that nothing is by any means certain except the rather fancy amount of pocket money youre born into. Actually gaining the throne must be the worst card in the pack. There are bonuses however, such as money and travel and if I were lucky enough to be handed all that , the worst card of all has to be achieving the Monarchy. Whatever is Harrys’ problem, other than his wife?

Seldom
Seldom
1 year ago
Reply to  Dominic S

I don’t think that’s what “spare” refers to. It’s not the next in line, but a second child that exists to make sure there will be an heir in case something happens to the eldest. Like a spare tyre, the second child is a surplus that everyone hopes will not be needed.

David Taylor
David Taylor
1 year ago
Reply to  Dominic S

Harry was the ‘spare’ until Prince George arrived i.e. 2nd in line should anything happen to William

Helen Manson
Helen Manson
1 year ago
Reply to  Dominic S

Perhaps the book would be better titled ‘Going Spare’ as in being angry or upset.

Gillian Johnstone
Gillian Johnstone
1 year ago
Reply to  Richard Craven

You forgot to mention the present Lord Bath is married to a very beautiful mixed-race lady and they don’t seem to need to make a big issue about it.

Michael Meddings
Michael Meddings
1 year ago

What is this “mixed-race” you speak of? My understanding was that if you only have a minute amount of African heritage, then you can call yourself black and choose to be a victim if so desirous.

Michael Meddings
Michael Meddings
1 year ago

What is this “mixed-race” you speak of? My understanding was that if you only have a minute amount of African heritage, then you can call yourself black and choose to be a victim if so desirous.

polidori redux
polidori redux
1 year ago
Reply to  Richard Craven

Yes I accept what you say. I realised as much myself but hoped you wouldn’t notice!
I was just trying to show how much fun a chap can have with a bit of money and oodles of social status. I still think that argument is a good one.

Dominic S
Dominic S
1 year ago
Reply to  Richard Craven

Harry was NEVER a “spare”. Charles was heir, and William was the spare. Then when Charles acceded to the throne William became the heir, and his eldest son became the spare.

Gillian Johnstone
Gillian Johnstone
1 year ago
Reply to  Richard Craven

You forgot to mention the present Lord Bath is married to a very beautiful mixed-race lady and they don’t seem to need to make a big issue about it.

Linda Hutchinson
Linda Hutchinson
1 year ago
Reply to  polidori redux

It will play in the US longer because their audience is the US public; they don’t give a toss about the UK or her people.

CHARLES STANHOPE
CHARLES STANHOPE
1 year ago

What about the vaunted ‘special relationship’?

Gill Holway
Gill Holway
1 year ago

Really? Ive not noticed that apart frm the B52s parked in the south Midands and the value of those to us is dubious to say the least.

Gill Holway
Gill Holway
1 year ago

Really? Ive not noticed that apart frm the B52s parked in the south Midands and the value of those to us is dubious to say the least.

CHARLES STANHOPE
CHARLES STANHOPE
1 year ago

What about the vaunted ‘special relationship’?

Kirsten Walstedt
Kirsten Walstedt
1 year ago
Reply to  polidori redux

Plus a starring role in a Pet Shop Boys video

Gill Holway
Gill Holway
1 year ago
Reply to  polidori redux

I didnt realise there were so many acquisitive women in the Uk, I believe Lord Baths wives ebb and flow like the tides. He must be a man of incredible stamina. By the way is this the old or new Lord Bath?

Russell Hamilton
Russell Hamilton
1 year ago
Reply to  polidori redux

“By the way, what is the problem with being a minor royal?”

Wasn’t the Queen Mother furious at Edward V111 stepping down because she liked her life as wife of the spare, and didn’t want to be Queen?

” it is a war not of substance but of style”

I think that’s wrong – the difference between the Cambridges and the Sussexes is that of egos under control and egos out of control. The Cambridges are adults, the others are adolescents.

Chris England
Chris England
1 year ago
Reply to  polidori redux

Try reading the times – it’s full of it.
I think, perhaps like the Crown – it’s unfair to make up a story and badge it as a documentary when the subject has no right of reply.

Richard Craven
Richard Craven
1 year ago
Reply to  polidori redux

The comparison with Lord Bath isn’t really apt, as most of Harry’s troubles stem from his being the second son. The oldest son inheriting the title and the estate a la Bath gets an oven-ready role; spares have to create their own.
Incidentally, Longleat’s present incumbent was in my year doing Philosophy at UCL in the mid-90’s. Nice bloke.

Linda Hutchinson
Linda Hutchinson
1 year ago
Reply to  polidori redux

It will play in the US longer because their audience is the US public; they don’t give a toss about the UK or her people.

Kirsten Walstedt
Kirsten Walstedt
1 year ago
Reply to  polidori redux

Plus a starring role in a Pet Shop Boys video

Gill Holway
Gill Holway
1 year ago
Reply to  polidori redux

I didnt realise there were so many acquisitive women in the Uk, I believe Lord Baths wives ebb and flow like the tides. He must be a man of incredible stamina. By the way is this the old or new Lord Bath?

polidori redux
polidori redux
1 year ago

It’s worth taking a glance at The Daily Mail. Not to read it, God forbid, but to see the sheer number of articles dedicated to this pair and their story. I assume that the editor know what he is doing.
My prediction: This affair will run longer in the US because it provides ammunication for the national sport of race-hustling, but eventually, even there, the media cavalcade will move on to the next great proftable cause. Meghan will pocket the dosh and dump Harry. Harry will become an unkempt recluse, consumed by self pity.
By the way, what is the problem with being a minor royal? It sounds like a great billet to me. You get a fancy house, more money than you meagre talents would ever muster by themselves and waiters to fawn over you at expensive eateries. I would swap lives for that. Look up Lord Bath of Longleat. 74 wifelets (according to The Daily Mail) and his own safari park. Bluddy Nora! A life well lived!
PS: i think Tanya has over-egged this a tad.

D Frost
D Frost
1 year ago

Everyone experiences frustration with family— however, decent people don’t betray their families for cash and notoriety.
Harry and Meghan keep demanding privacy while thrusting the details of their privilege-soaked lives on the rest of us. I just wish they’d go away.

Lorna Dobson
Lorna Dobson
1 year ago
Reply to  D Frost

What’s really unsettling is how she flung off her family when she realized they didn’t fit the glamorous lifestyle she was aspiring to. Apparently her father, who doted on her, had a major stroke six months ago and is struggling to maintain some semblance of normalcy. Call from Meghan? No. Anybody who has seen the home movies of Markle as a child can’t help but shed a tear or two knowing what she has done to her father. I don’t understand why Harry has never met him. Very very sad.

Kat L
Kat L
1 year ago
Reply to  Lorna Dobson

She’s the charmless hyacinth bucket; her dear papa even looks a little like cousin onslow!

Kat L
Kat L
1 year ago
Reply to  Lorna Dobson

She’s the charmless hyacinth bucket; her dear papa even looks a little like cousin onslow!

Lorna Dobson
Lorna Dobson
1 year ago
Reply to  D Frost

What’s really unsettling is how she flung off her family when she realized they didn’t fit the glamorous lifestyle she was aspiring to. Apparently her father, who doted on her, had a major stroke six months ago and is struggling to maintain some semblance of normalcy. Call from Meghan? No. Anybody who has seen the home movies of Markle as a child can’t help but shed a tear or two knowing what she has done to her father. I don’t understand why Harry has never met him. Very very sad.

D Frost
D Frost
1 year ago

Everyone experiences frustration with family— however, decent people don’t betray their families for cash and notoriety.
Harry and Meghan keep demanding privacy while thrusting the details of their privilege-soaked lives on the rest of us. I just wish they’d go away.

Noel Chiappa
Noel Chiappa
1 year ago

The schizophrenia of (not without reason) hating the intrusive press, and simultaneously doing just about all you can to garner more attention, is amazing. I guess the rest of us are all in ‘rubber-neckers at a really bad car crash’ mode. And Netflix have cruelly and callously worked out how to monetize it. I assume Harry and Meghan know they are being exploited (they may be dense, but not that dense), but some internal unsatiable need drives them to go along with it. Well, as someone said, he’s a grown-up (sort of).
William, somewhere inside, must be sad for his brother.

John Ramsden
John Ramsden
1 year ago
Reply to  Noel Chiappa

> William, somewhere inside, must be sad for his brother.
and by all accounts, Harry’s former army mates are all shaking their heads in wonder at how it came to this, with Meghan apparently leading him around firmly by the b***s!

Last edited 1 year ago by John Ramsden
John Ramsden
John Ramsden
1 year ago
Reply to  Noel Chiappa

> William, somewhere inside, must be sad for his brother.
and by all accounts, Harry’s former army mates are all shaking their heads in wonder at how it came to this, with Meghan apparently leading him around firmly by the b***s!

Last edited 1 year ago by John Ramsden
Noel Chiappa
Noel Chiappa
1 year ago

The schizophrenia of (not without reason) hating the intrusive press, and simultaneously doing just about all you can to garner more attention, is amazing. I guess the rest of us are all in ‘rubber-neckers at a really bad car crash’ mode. And Netflix have cruelly and callously worked out how to monetize it. I assume Harry and Meghan know they are being exploited (they may be dense, but not that dense), but some internal unsatiable need drives them to go along with it. Well, as someone said, he’s a grown-up (sort of).
William, somewhere inside, must be sad for his brother.

Allison Barrows
Allison Barrows
1 year ago

I didn’t think it was possible to out-obnoxious the Kardashians, and yet these two have done it, so at least they’ve accomplished something – by being enormous asses rather than having them.

john O'Neal
john O'Neal
1 year ago

Humor always brightens a page!

john O'Neal
john O'Neal
1 year ago

Humor always brightens a page!

Allison Barrows
Allison Barrows
1 year ago

I didn’t think it was possible to out-obnoxious the Kardashians, and yet these two have done it, so at least they’ve accomplished something – by being enormous asses rather than having them.

Doug Pingel
Doug Pingel
1 year ago

He didn’t choose Her – She chose Him.

Frank McCusker
Frank McCusker
1 year ago
Reply to  Doug Pingel

Yep. Moth / flame. In fairness, that’s generally how it works though – bloke chooses the one who allows herself to be “chosen”

Cathy Carron
Cathy Carron
1 year ago
Reply to  Doug Pingel

Women always do the choosing- it’s biological. Poor Harry had so many who didn’t want him for a variety of reasons – privacy, he just wasn’t that bright (it’s a genetic thing with women), & freedom.

Last edited 1 year ago by Cathy Carron
Noel Chiappa
Noel Chiappa
1 year ago
Reply to  Cathy Carron

I dunno about the ‘women always do the choosing’. Many, yes; but not all. To use a royal example, look at Harry’s great-grand parents. By all accounts the Queen Mum (as she later became) did not want to hear about it, but he wouldn’t give up, and eventually convinced her.

Noel Chiappa
Noel Chiappa
1 year ago
Reply to  Cathy Carron

I dunno about the ‘women always do the choosing’. Many, yes; but not all. To use a royal example, look at Harry’s great-grand parents. By all accounts the Queen Mum (as she later became) did not want to hear about it, but he wouldn’t give up, and eventually convinced her.

Frank McCusker
Frank McCusker
1 year ago
Reply to  Doug Pingel

Yep. Moth / flame. In fairness, that’s generally how it works though – bloke chooses the one who allows herself to be “chosen”

Cathy Carron
Cathy Carron
1 year ago
Reply to  Doug Pingel

Women always do the choosing- it’s biological. Poor Harry had so many who didn’t want him for a variety of reasons – privacy, he just wasn’t that bright (it’s a genetic thing with women), & freedom.

Last edited 1 year ago by Cathy Carron
Doug Pingel
Doug Pingel
1 year ago

He didn’t choose Her – She chose Him.

Mike Carr
Mike Carr
1 year ago

People are overthinking this. The Sussexes do what they do to make money because they can and need to. If they were truly traumatised they should get a grip of their lives, grow up, put the past behind them and move forward on their own.

Cathy Carron
Cathy Carron
1 year ago
Reply to  Mike Carr

Meghan is Money Mad.

Cathy Carron
Cathy Carron
1 year ago
Reply to  Mike Carr

Meghan is Money Mad.

Mike Carr
Mike Carr
1 year ago

People are overthinking this. The Sussexes do what they do to make money because they can and need to. If they were truly traumatised they should get a grip of their lives, grow up, put the past behind them and move forward on their own.

Richard Abbot
Richard Abbot
1 year ago

The power dynamic is crystal clear