Trump calls the fake indigenous Elizabeth Warren Pocahontas. Every Democrat in the universe calls white middle-class Americans racist-sexist-homophobes.
So your point is?
I think the point was: Christopher Chantrill hates Elizabeth Warren; Justin Webb appears not to hate Elizabeth Warren; so Christopher Chantrill lashes out at Justin Webb. In a word: triggered.
I get the point about Democrat hypocrisy about name-calling, and it’s a valid one. But it’s not what the article is about. And comments along the lines of “I’m very angry about X and so, unless an author spends time displaying parallel anger about it, I’m going to dismiss his or her article out of hand” aren’t any use. (They’ll get likes from the similarly triggered and angry but they waste others’ time because they’re not actually about the article we’ve just read.)
I tend to agree. Mr Webb is not correct that Trump brought down Elizabeth Warren. Elizabeth Warren brought down Elizabeth Warren. Here are the facts, Mr Webb:
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“A DNA test is useless to determine tribal citizenship. Current DNA tests do not even distinguish whether a person’s ancestors were indigenous to North or South America. Sovereign tribal nations set their own legal requirements for citizenship, and while DNA tests can be used to determine lineage, such as paternity to an individual, it is not evidence for tribal affiliation.
Using a DNA test to lay claim to any connection to the Cherokee Nation or any tribal nation, even vaguely, is inappropriate and wrong. It makes a mockery out of DNA tests and its legitimate uses while also dishonoring legitimate tribal governments and their citizens, whose ancestors are well documented and whose heritage is proven. Senator Warren is undermining tribal interests with her continued claims of tribal heritage.”
– Cherokee Nation’s secretary of state, Chuck Hoskin Jr.
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I’m not sure why Trump is somehow responsible for Elizabeth Warren using cultural appropriation to further her Harvard career as well as her political aspirations.
Probably because no one else of any media and/or political importance would have called her out on the issue, a dna test would never have been done, and she would be given carte blanche to continue on as before.
In the mind of a liberal, that makes Trump responsible for her downfall. Something similar happened with Richard Nixon after his taking down Jerry Vorhees and Helen Gahalen Douglas.
While neither man was by any stretch of imagination perfect, one thing a liberal will not tolerate is an effective opposition. They even went to work on Reagan, saying all sorts of thing shown to have not been true.
Ollie North recently came out that the Democrats were offering him a plea deal of no penalty in return for testifying against Reagan. The object the Congressman said was to take down the president. North refused. These people play for keeps.
Probably because no one else of any media and/or political importance would have called her out on the issue, a dna test would never have been done, and she would be given carte blanche to continue on as before.
In the mind of a liberal, that makes Trump responsible for her downfall. Something similar happened with Richard Nixon after his taking down Jerry Vorhees and Helen Gahalen Douglas.
While neither man was by any stretch of imagination perfect, one thing a liberal will not tolerate is an effective opposition. They even went to work on Reagan, saying all sorts of thing shown to have not been true.
Ollie North recently came out that the Democrats were offering him a plea deal of no penalty in return for testifying against Reagan. The object the Congressman said was to take down the president. North refused. These people play for keeps.
I tend to agree. Mr Webb is not correct that Trump brought down Elizabeth Warren. Elizabeth Warren brought down Elizabeth Warren. Here are the facts, Mr Webb:
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“A DNA test is useless to determine tribal citizenship. Current DNA tests do not even distinguish whether a person’s ancestors were indigenous to North or South America. Sovereign tribal nations set their own legal requirements for citizenship, and while DNA tests can be used to determine lineage, such as paternity to an individual, it is not evidence for tribal affiliation.
Using a DNA test to lay claim to any connection to the Cherokee Nation or any tribal nation, even vaguely, is inappropriate and wrong. It makes a mockery out of DNA tests and its legitimate uses while also dishonoring legitimate tribal governments and their citizens, whose ancestors are well documented and whose heritage is proven. Senator Warren is undermining tribal interests with her continued claims of tribal heritage.”
– Cherokee Nation’s secretary of state, Chuck Hoskin Jr.
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I’m not sure why Trump is somehow responsible for Elizabeth Warren using cultural appropriation to further her Harvard career as well as her political aspirations.
I think the point was: Christopher Chantrill hates Elizabeth Warren; Justin Webb appears not to hate Elizabeth Warren; so Christopher Chantrill lashes out at Justin Webb. In a word: triggered.
I get the point about Democrat hypocrisy about name-calling, and it’s a valid one. But it’s not what the article is about. And comments along the lines of “I’m very angry about X and so, unless an author spends time displaying parallel anger about it, I’m going to dismiss his or her article out of hand” aren’t any use. (They’ll get likes from the similarly triggered and angry but they waste others’ time because they’re not actually about the article we’ve just read.)
Liawatha was always a better name.
Webb is clueless. Just ignore his blathering. Trump can’t win the R nomination after his comments about DeSantis and Youngkin and the losers he backed. The only influence he can have is to run 3rd party and put SloJo or another demented Donkey back in office.
Whether he knows it or not (I think he does), Pres. Trump is not calling any particular person names. He is, rather, calling a way of thinking about human affairs names. His target is ideology. He would wrestle with the world as it is given to us. Ms. Warren would recreate that world. His approach is all shouting and angst, for there is no other way when it come to ideology. Mr. Desantis fails to know this at his peril.
PRECISELY! The main reason why the left HATES Trump is that they see themselves in the mirror when they look and listen to him. He’s completely on to them, unlike so many previous republican candidates. Just because the hate is institutionalized on the left doesn’t mean it’s not hate.
Liawatha was always a better name.
Webb is clueless. Just ignore his blathering. Trump can’t win the R nomination after his comments about DeSantis and Youngkin and the losers he backed. The only influence he can have is to run 3rd party and put SloJo or another demented Donkey back in office.
Whether he knows it or not (I think he does), Pres. Trump is not calling any particular person names. He is, rather, calling a way of thinking about human affairs names. His target is ideology. He would wrestle with the world as it is given to us. Ms. Warren would recreate that world. His approach is all shouting and angst, for there is no other way when it come to ideology. Mr. Desantis fails to know this at his peril.
PRECISELY! The main reason why the left HATES Trump is that they see themselves in the mirror when they look and listen to him. He’s completely on to them, unlike so many previous republican candidates. Just because the hate is institutionalized on the left doesn’t mean it’s not hate.
Trump calls the fake indigenous Elizabeth Warren Pocahontas. Every Democrat in the universe calls white middle-class Americans racist-sexist-homophobes.
So your point is?
Malcolm Knott
1 year ago
The reason why ‘Pocahontas’ strikes home is because it encapsulates a truth: ‘Whatever her other virtues, this woman is pretentious, virtue-signalling and slightly dishonest.’
The best political insults always contain at least a grain of truth. When I mention Sleepy Joe, Worzel Gummidge or the Welsh windbag you immediately know who I mean. But these are not thoughts we are ‘ashamed of thinking.’ Quite the contrary. More like, ‘I wish I’d thought of that!’
I think being only ‘slightly’ dishonest probably disqualifies one from a political career in America. You could probably be a ‘slightly dishonest’ political intern or maybe a lobbyist, but you can’t get elected dog-catcher if you can’t say the sky is green with a straight face.
I think being only ‘slightly’ dishonest probably disqualifies one from a political career in America. You could probably be a ‘slightly dishonest’ political intern or maybe a lobbyist, but you can’t get elected dog-catcher if you can’t say the sky is green with a straight face.
Reading the list of his insults was a lustrous endorphin assault on my senses–I thrilled to his “Lock Her UP!” way back when. I thought he was (and is) vulgar–but in light of Biden’s performance to date, I will definitely consider cleaning house by voting R–the which I have never done in my life. The prospect of serious inquiry into Hunter Biden’s lap top thrills me with hope. Bring em all down. Starting anywhere. Samson could only pull down the tower of Dagon. Not bad for a day’s work, if you believe in Jehova nonsense. But the metaphor is apt. The lazy old pustule we name Trump may be our own post modern Samson, vulgar rhetoric and all. Wait? Who was Cleon the Tanner, anyway?
Reading the list of his insults was a lustrous endorphin assault on my senses–I thrilled to his “Lock Her UP!” way back when. I thought he was (and is) vulgar–but in light of Biden’s performance to date, I will definitely consider cleaning house by voting R–the which I have never done in my life. The prospect of serious inquiry into Hunter Biden’s lap top thrills me with hope. Bring em all down. Starting anywhere. Samson could only pull down the tower of Dagon. Not bad for a day’s work, if you believe in Jehova nonsense. But the metaphor is apt. The lazy old pustule we name Trump may be our own post modern Samson, vulgar rhetoric and all. Wait? Who was Cleon the Tanner, anyway?
Malcolm Knott
1 year ago
The reason why ‘Pocahontas’ strikes home is because it encapsulates a truth: ‘Whatever her other virtues, this woman is pretentious, virtue-signalling and slightly dishonest.’
The best political insults always contain at least a grain of truth. When I mention Sleepy Joe, Worzel Gummidge or the Welsh windbag you immediately know who I mean. But these are not thoughts we are ‘ashamed of thinking.’ Quite the contrary. More like, ‘I wish I’d thought of that!’
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polidori redux
1 year ago
“The senior senator from Massachusetts is in many ways hugely qualified for the job.”
Anyone who thinks that claiming to be a “something-American” ( No matter what the something is) is a plus, has demonstrated that they are not fit to run anything, anywhere.
I get the impression, as an outsider, that the secret to Trump’s success is the pathetic inadequacy of the rest of the political class in the US. We have a similar problem here in the UK. Why else do you think that “Boris” got elected PM, or any of the other pygmies that came after him for that matter ( I forget their names)?
Speaking from my experience as an American citizen, I wholeheartedly agree with your impression, although it’s not really ‘inadequacy’ per se or even incompetence that’s the problem. The political class became too much a product of Harvard/Yale academia, Wall Street money, and Hollywood celebrity. They failed to understand Trump because they so fundamentally misunderstand vast swaths of the American public, and they continue to do so. The media, unfortunately, seems to fall into the same perceptual trap, overestimating Trump’s ability to psychologically manipulate people and dismissing his supporters as ignorant, gullible peasants. It’s not about the anger or the name calling. It’s not even about basic competency. It’s about actually listening to and pursuing the interests of the actual citizenry rather than taking all their cues from bureaucrats, bankers, intellectuals, and ‘experts’.
Don’t forget it’s also about promising people, their jobs will come back when trump knows that they won’t, or telling African-Americans to vote for you, because what have you got to lose?
Don’t forget it’s also about promising people, their jobs will come back when trump knows that they won’t, or telling African-Americans to vote for you, because what have you got to lose?
Speaking from my experience as an American citizen, I wholeheartedly agree with your impression, although it’s not really ‘inadequacy’ per se or even incompetence that’s the problem. The political class became too much a product of Harvard/Yale academia, Wall Street money, and Hollywood celebrity. They failed to understand Trump because they so fundamentally misunderstand vast swaths of the American public, and they continue to do so. The media, unfortunately, seems to fall into the same perceptual trap, overestimating Trump’s ability to psychologically manipulate people and dismissing his supporters as ignorant, gullible peasants. It’s not about the anger or the name calling. It’s not even about basic competency. It’s about actually listening to and pursuing the interests of the actual citizenry rather than taking all their cues from bureaucrats, bankers, intellectuals, and ‘experts’.
polidori redux
1 year ago
“The senior senator from Massachusetts is in many ways hugely qualified for the job.”
Anyone who thinks that claiming to be a “something-American” ( No matter what the something is) is a plus, has demonstrated that they are not fit to run anything, anywhere.
I get the impression, as an outsider, that the secret to Trump’s success is the pathetic inadequacy of the rest of the political class in the US. We have a similar problem here in the UK. Why else do you think that “Boris” got elected PM, or any of the other pygmies that came after him for that matter ( I forget their names)?
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Michael Askew
1 year ago
Not sure that Elizabeth Warren is as impressive as the author claims. To hear EW rail against Elon Musk as a mere leech who got rich by bloodsucking on the roads and public services provided by the state is risible. And not sure it resonates with Americans who tend to love a winner, even if (especially if?) he is rich.
I often hear that silly argument about the all-giving state.
Where do these people think the state gets the cash from for what, after all, are only the basic services that we net taxpayers would like to think we are getting for our contributions?
I often hear that silly argument about the all-giving state.
Where do these people think the state gets the cash from for what, after all, are only the basic services that we net taxpayers would like to think we are getting for our contributions?
But Musk is a serial scammer, solar roofs, hyperloop, Las Vegas Loop etc etc etc.
Michael Askew
1 year ago
Not sure that Elizabeth Warren is as impressive as the author claims. To hear EW rail against Elon Musk as a mere leech who got rich by bloodsucking on the roads and public services provided by the state is risible. And not sure it resonates with Americans who tend to love a winner, even if (especially if?) he is rich.
jmo
1 year ago
I’m not sure Justin really gets it. Doesn’t he think it’s (at best) a wee bit silly for Warren to pretend she has a minority status for clout and a little flavour? So Trump was, gasp, RUDE in pointing it out. Meh. If her entire career could be detailed because of “one man, one word” it wasn’t that great, was it?
It’s not voters’ responsibility to act as if politicians are respectable and quality prospects when they’re not. Journalists do quite enough of that.
jmo
1 year ago
I’m not sure Justin really gets it. Doesn’t he think it’s (at best) a wee bit silly for Warren to pretend she has a minority status for clout and a little flavour? So Trump was, gasp, RUDE in pointing it out. Meh. If her entire career could be detailed because of “one man, one word” it wasn’t that great, was it?
It’s not voters’ responsibility to act as if politicians are respectable and quality prospects when they’re not. Journalists do quite enough of that.
Zak Orn
1 year ago
Giving the snakes from the Lincoln project airtime is a sure-fire way to get a portion of people angry enough again. From what I’ve seen of DeSantis so far I would prefer him over Trump… but if the Lincoln project are endorsing him that’s a red flag.
DeSantis is no fool. He knows that if these people get their way and destroy Trump, they will stab him in the back immediately afterwards. I cannot wait for the “maybe DeSantis was never that great” movement from National Review and The Bulwark if he refuses to cave under establishment pressure like Bernie did for the Democrats. It gets hilarious if you look at the candidates the party leadership likes and start mentally calculating the odds of them getting elected. Pence? Hailey? Cheney? Funny enough, one of the reasons for DeSantis’s rising popularity is he knows these people are trying to use him as just another mouthpiece to attack Trump and instead only responds to them and Trump on his own terms. Just look at the FU letter his team sent The View a while ago (look it up, it is a good response).
I wouldn’t let the Lincoln Project endorsement put you off. They’re true single-issue (or in this case, single person) voters. They’ll endorse ANYONE not named Donald Trump.
The funny thing is that they think anyone is still listening to them.
They pretty much discredited themselves with a dirty trick a while back. I took my name off their mailing list and I think a lot of other people did too.
They pretty much discredited themselves with a dirty trick a while back. I took my name off their mailing list and I think a lot of other people did too.
Trump’s best shot at DeSantis, if he runs, is to paint the man as another establishment tool. Difficult, given his record, but not impossible if every deep pocketed donor in the party starts lining up behind Ron. That’s how Trump won the 2016 primary. The better play for the Republican establishment is to let the candidates have a primary with minimal outside interference and hold their money for the general election. The Lincoln project won’t do that, but nobody thinks they’re actual Republicans anyway.
DeSantis is no fool. He knows that if these people get their way and destroy Trump, they will stab him in the back immediately afterwards. I cannot wait for the “maybe DeSantis was never that great” movement from National Review and The Bulwark if he refuses to cave under establishment pressure like Bernie did for the Democrats. It gets hilarious if you look at the candidates the party leadership likes and start mentally calculating the odds of them getting elected. Pence? Hailey? Cheney? Funny enough, one of the reasons for DeSantis’s rising popularity is he knows these people are trying to use him as just another mouthpiece to attack Trump and instead only responds to them and Trump on his own terms. Just look at the FU letter his team sent The View a while ago (look it up, it is a good response).
I wouldn’t let the Lincoln Project endorsement put you off. They’re true single-issue (or in this case, single person) voters. They’ll endorse ANYONE not named Donald Trump.
The funny thing is that they think anyone is still listening to them.
Trump’s best shot at DeSantis, if he runs, is to paint the man as another establishment tool. Difficult, given his record, but not impossible if every deep pocketed donor in the party starts lining up behind Ron. That’s how Trump won the 2016 primary. The better play for the Republican establishment is to let the candidates have a primary with minimal outside interference and hold their money for the general election. The Lincoln project won’t do that, but nobody thinks they’re actual Republicans anyway.
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Zak Orn
1 year ago
Giving the snakes from the Lincoln project airtime is a sure-fire way to get a portion of people angry enough again. From what I’ve seen of DeSantis so far I would prefer him over Trump… but if the Lincoln project are endorsing him that’s a red flag.
Daniel P
1 year ago
Warren did a lot more than sign a cook book. She used her “native heritage” to get jobs and positions. Either way, its really gross and off putting.
I also do not think that DeSantis is as bad as this article would make him out to be.
As for Trump, well, he will always be Trump, but to this day I am not convinced that he ever really wanted the job of president. I am not sure he really wants it now beyond simply having an overwhelming desire to thumb his nose at the media and the democrats. That said…two things…
He does not seem to have the energy that he used to.Could be he is just getting older but I would toss in the fact that his kids seem less interested in following him. Ivanka, his best surrogate, is clearly not going along.I think the media have figured out that the best way to beat Trump is to ignore him and I suspect that that is precisely what is going to happen. There was barely ANY attention given to his announcement that he was running.
No, I think we are going to get a DeSantis nomination and then very likely a minority, possibly a minority woman, as the VP. Could be Haley, could even be someone like Tulsi Gabbard or Winsome Sears.
I agree about Trump’s apparent waning energy. That his children don’t seem as eager as they were in 2016 is interesting. And DeSantis is smart in ignoring Trump at this point. Trump is a bully and the more one ignores a bully the more the bully bullies until it is apparent to all that the bullying doesn’t work as well as it once did.
Tulsi is kind of a loose cannon. I like her but she is so wrong on Ukraine, which is our chief security concern right now. If the Rs have any sense they will nominate someone who is predictable, steady as she goes. I’d go for Haley.
I agree about Trump’s apparent waning energy. That his children don’t seem as eager as they were in 2016 is interesting. And DeSantis is smart in ignoring Trump at this point. Trump is a bully and the more one ignores a bully the more the bully bullies until it is apparent to all that the bullying doesn’t work as well as it once did.
Tulsi is kind of a loose cannon. I like her but she is so wrong on Ukraine, which is our chief security concern right now. If the Rs have any sense they will nominate someone who is predictable, steady as she goes. I’d go for Haley.
Daniel P
1 year ago
Warren did a lot more than sign a cook book. She used her “native heritage” to get jobs and positions. Either way, its really gross and off putting.
I also do not think that DeSantis is as bad as this article would make him out to be.
As for Trump, well, he will always be Trump, but to this day I am not convinced that he ever really wanted the job of president. I am not sure he really wants it now beyond simply having an overwhelming desire to thumb his nose at the media and the democrats. That said…two things…
He does not seem to have the energy that he used to.Could be he is just getting older but I would toss in the fact that his kids seem less interested in following him. Ivanka, his best surrogate, is clearly not going along.I think the media have figured out that the best way to beat Trump is to ignore him and I suspect that that is precisely what is going to happen. There was barely ANY attention given to his announcement that he was running.
No, I think we are going to get a DeSantis nomination and then very likely a minority, possibly a minority woman, as the VP. Could be Haley, could even be someone like Tulsi Gabbard or Winsome Sears.
Cathy Carron
1 year ago
Trump’s name-calling will be subject for many PhD theses to come. Do note he effectively targeted individuals only – went right for their Achilles’ heels. In comparison, Democrat leaders disparaged entire classes of people, not exactly a vote-for-me-strategy and cynical to the core; Hillary with her ‘super-predators’ (inner city blacks), ‘irredeemable deplorables’, Obama’s ‘bible thumpers, who cling to their guns’ and just recently Biden’s ‘semi- fascist’ and ‘you ain’t black unless you vote Democrat’. Trump never, ever disparaged the electorate which in my book was actually taking the moral high road. Instead, he attacked people who had self-important, narcissistic balloons to burst.
Part of the effectiveness was to tie the insult to the first name. It gave the impression he actually knew them (in many cases he did) which made the insult all the more believable. “Crooked Hilary”, “Lying Ted”, “Little Marco”, Low Energy Jeb”
Part of the effectiveness was to tie the insult to the first name. It gave the impression he actually knew them (in many cases he did) which made the insult all the more believable. “Crooked Hilary”, “Lying Ted”, “Little Marco”, Low Energy Jeb”
Cathy Carron
1 year ago
Trump’s name-calling will be subject for many PhD theses to come. Do note he effectively targeted individuals only – went right for their Achilles’ heels. In comparison, Democrat leaders disparaged entire classes of people, not exactly a vote-for-me-strategy and cynical to the core; Hillary with her ‘super-predators’ (inner city blacks), ‘irredeemable deplorables’, Obama’s ‘bible thumpers, who cling to their guns’ and just recently Biden’s ‘semi- fascist’ and ‘you ain’t black unless you vote Democrat’. Trump never, ever disparaged the electorate which in my book was actually taking the moral high road. Instead, he attacked people who had self-important, narcissistic balloons to burst.
Bob Smalser
1 year ago
Lame apology. Even thirty years ago there were convenient genealogists to VET your claims before padding the resume. Warren still owes reparations for the minorities she cheated out of a job for 30 years by falsely portraying herself as Native American.
Bob Smalser
1 year ago
Lame apology. Even thirty years ago there were convenient genealogists to VET your claims before padding the resume. Warren still owes reparations for the minorities she cheated out of a job for 30 years by falsely portraying herself as Native American.
AC Harper
1 year ago
What if the language of the party becomes more temperate again? What if they become… normal again?
Is there any sign that the Elite Democrats are going to back down from their progressive woke, BLM, trans propaganda, machine politics? Because as long as the Democrats pursue a ‘far left’ agenda the Republicans and independents are going to react against it.
“Temperate, “nice,” and milquetoast is what Dems desperately want the GOP to revert to. Think of Charlie Brown vs. Lucy, always playing by her rules and never kicking the football.
For all his faults, which are many, Trump did yeoman service in tearing off masks from both the Left and the GOP establishment. While I personally think that there are better standard bearers for 2024, I also feel that the GOP needs to do done with the McConnell wing of the party, who are more than willing to lose whilst maintaining leadership and hoovering up campaign contributions. Even more so folks like Lynn Cheney.
“Temperate, “nice,” and milquetoast is what Dems desperately want the GOP to revert to. Think of Charlie Brown vs. Lucy, always playing by her rules and never kicking the football.
For all his faults, which are many, Trump did yeoman service in tearing off masks from both the Left and the GOP establishment. While I personally think that there are better standard bearers for 2024, I also feel that the GOP needs to do done with the McConnell wing of the party, who are more than willing to lose whilst maintaining leadership and hoovering up campaign contributions. Even more so folks like Lynn Cheney.
AC Harper
1 year ago
What if the language of the party becomes more temperate again? What if they become… normal again?
Is there any sign that the Elite Democrats are going to back down from their progressive woke, BLM, trans propaganda, machine politics? Because as long as the Democrats pursue a ‘far left’ agenda the Republicans and independents are going to react against it.
Charliec 0
1 year ago
He’s the BBC correspondent. That kinda positions him don’t you think?
Charliec 0
1 year ago
He’s the BBC correspondent. That kinda positions him don’t you think?
j watson
1 year ago
Good article. The dilemma the Republicans face – DeSantis can win the White House, but Trump might do irreparable damage to him before the chance arrives. As the author says, this is the dragon they chose to ride.
j watson
1 year ago
Good article. The dilemma the Republicans face – DeSantis can win the White House, but Trump might do irreparable damage to him before the chance arrives. As the author says, this is the dragon they chose to ride.
James Sullivan
1 year ago
Warren was doomed well before Trump – her inability to tell the truth, while not ever rising to the level of Hillary’s obfuscations, was nonetheless habitual. This was why she was never nominated to run the CFPB she got Obama to create – her Cherokee lies and pandering were already poison to further advancement.
But the author says she only signed a cookbook. Buhahahaha.
James Sullivan
1 year ago
Warren was doomed well before Trump – her inability to tell the truth, while not ever rising to the level of Hillary’s obfuscations, was nonetheless habitual. This was why she was never nominated to run the CFPB she got Obama to create – her Cherokee lies and pandering were already poison to further advancement.
Stoater D
1 year ago
Warren is a fraud and a liar, simple as that.
Stoater D
1 year ago
Warren is a fraud and a liar, simple as that.
Marissa M
1 year ago
Trump is an amazingly talented bully while being a relatively astute judge of character. His nicknames stick because they are unfortunately applicable. He reminds me of Dickens…he always came up with the best names for characters. .
He is also a media villain, which by design, makes him a media darling. He “sells”. The point the media is missing, and I think Trump himself misses, is that although he still has a core in the US….many people are also bored with him. He played his tricks. He put on his show. America’s swing voters, with their typical Attention Deficit Disorder, are looking for a new hero. Whereas before he took the country by storm, now he will have to outdo himself in terms of entertainment and promises. I don’t think he can do it.
Don’t get me wrong, he’s still amusing to watch at times, but all he will do now is split the GOP vote. Unless the Democrats throw up a complete moron, which they are apt to do considering their current crop of candidates, they will probably win. Trump will never, EVER, back down.We already know he could care less about any political party. He will fight on unless he feels he is losing too much face, at which point he will blame anyone and anything else for the failure. But I think by the time that happens, the damage may already be done.
Perhaps he and Boris will skip off into the sunset together.
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Marissa M
1 year ago
Trump is an amazingly talented bully while being a relatively astute judge of character. His nicknames stick because they are unfortunately applicable. He reminds me of Dickens…he always came up with the best names for characters. .
He is also a media villain, which by design, makes him a media darling. He “sells”. The point the media is missing, and I think Trump himself misses, is that although he still has a core in the US….many people are also bored with him. He played his tricks. He put on his show. America’s swing voters, with their typical Attention Deficit Disorder, are looking for a new hero. Whereas before he took the country by storm, now he will have to outdo himself in terms of entertainment and promises. I don’t think he can do it.
Don’t get me wrong, he’s still amusing to watch at times, but all he will do now is split the GOP vote. Unless the Democrats throw up a complete moron, which they are apt to do considering their current crop of candidates, they will probably win. Trump will never, EVER, back down.We already know he could care less about any political party. He will fight on unless he feels he is losing too much face, at which point he will blame anyone and anything else for the failure. But I think by the time that happens, the damage may already be done.
Perhaps he and Boris will skip off into the sunset together.
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Martin Bollis
1 year ago
Surely there is one word guaranteed to excite the limbic cortex system, particularly of Americans.
Since 2020, both the result and the almost entire reversal of his legislative program with a few strokes of a pen, and 2022, he is now, demonstrably, a Loser.
All De Santis has to do is hold his hand to his forehead, forefinger and thumb at right angles.
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Martin Bollis
1 year ago
Surely there is one word guaranteed to excite the limbic cortex system, particularly of Americans.
Since 2020, both the result and the almost entire reversal of his legislative program with a few strokes of a pen, and 2022, he is now, demonstrably, a Loser.
All De Santis has to do is hold his hand to his forehead, forefinger and thumb at right angles.
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Jerry Carroll
1 year ago
Kudos to the writer for his lung power in inflating a nothing-burger into something to put between a thin bun, but he’s dead wrong about DeSantis. This guy took on the all-powerful Disney Company in Florida on issues people care about and emerged a big-time winner. He is clued in to the people who are generally described in the largely dispised mainstream media as Trump’s base. He is not nasty, which by now is a saving grace and isn’t ridiculously full of himself. He will be the GOP nominee — guaranteed.
Jerry Carroll
1 year ago
Kudos to the writer for his lung power in inflating a nothing-burger into something to put between a thin bun, but he’s dead wrong about DeSantis. This guy took on the all-powerful Disney Company in Florida on issues people care about and emerged a big-time winner. He is clued in to the people who are generally described in the largely dispised mainstream media as Trump’s base. He is not nasty, which by now is a saving grace and isn’t ridiculously full of himself. He will be the GOP nominee — guaranteed.
Hardee Hodges
1 year ago
People voted for Trump mainly because he was real. Most of the others spoke poll tested rubbish hiding behind words of little meaning. You had no idea what they stood for or believed. Not Trump, he was candid, off the cuff, real. DeSantis has a similar yet more thoughtful way of speaking; he too comes across as real. Who knows what will happen on the way to ’24? After Sleepy Joe almost anything would be better. The default has been awful.
Hardee Hodges
1 year ago
People voted for Trump mainly because he was real. Most of the others spoke poll tested rubbish hiding behind words of little meaning. You had no idea what they stood for or believed. Not Trump, he was candid, off the cuff, real. DeSantis has a similar yet more thoughtful way of speaking; he too comes across as real. Who knows what will happen on the way to ’24? After Sleepy Joe almost anything would be better. The default has been awful.
Corey o,Connor
1 year ago
Oh and screw Elizabeth Warren and her take down of crypto. Another thing the average American doesn’t support. Most freedom loving Americans support innovation in tech a dollar bill that can’t be controlled by globalists.
Corey o,Connor
1 year ago
Oh and screw Elizabeth Warren and her take down of crypto. Another thing the average American doesn’t support. Most freedom loving Americans support innovation in tech a dollar bill that can’t be controlled by globalists.
Vince B
1 year ago
All of the conservative establishment knives are out again for Trump as they were the day he entered the 2016 race. In Washington, nobody loves him. He is not dedicated to a set of ideas which they share. He only exists for his own glory and power, and he is only seen as a vehicle for their power. There is no honor among thieves.
They were able to turn against him in a nanosecond the poor moment midterms results started coming in, showing that his hand-picked nutjob candidates lost, because he no longer looked like a suitable vehicle for their power.
The author has it right that the establishment is not going to get rid of him that easily, however. But not because of his ability to gore personalities with his nicknames. His ability to shock, and therefore entertain, has waned as people have become inured to his crassness.
He will become the nominee (and lose the general election badly), exactly because the entire establishment is now against him, as they were in 2016.
Good points. I’m fairly conservative, but it seems UnHerd’s comments section has been targeted for slander by particular American conservatives. The publication’s foolish unified ‘upvote-downvote’ net count enables them to bully commenters with whom they disagree.
Good points. I’m fairly conservative, but it seems UnHerd’s comments section has been targeted for slander by particular American conservatives. The publication’s foolish unified ‘upvote-downvote’ net count enables them to bully commenters with whom they disagree.
Vince B
1 year ago
All of the conservative establishment knives are out again for Trump as they were the day he entered the 2016 race. In Washington, nobody loves him. He is not dedicated to a set of ideas which they share. He only exists for his own glory and power, and he is only seen as a vehicle for their power. There is no honor among thieves.
They were able to turn against him in a nanosecond the poor moment midterms results started coming in, showing that his hand-picked nutjob candidates lost, because he no longer looked like a suitable vehicle for their power.
The author has it right that the establishment is not going to get rid of him that easily, however. But not because of his ability to gore personalities with his nicknames. His ability to shock, and therefore entertain, has waned as people have become inured to his crassness.
He will become the nominee (and lose the general election badly), exactly because the entire establishment is now against him, as they were in 2016.
Srinivasa Sarma
1 year ago
It appears that there is no news in USA worthy enough to communicate. The media seems to target Mr.Trump every day and it becomes very boring and pathetic. The media seems to have joined the ruling party, instead of being impartial. The Trump is being attacked in order to hide all failures in many other fronts. The day begins with Trump. I thought it would be over once the November election is over. Now again the day begins with Trump attack. Perhaps, it may continue till he agrees not to stand for 2024 election.
Srinivasa Sarma
1 year ago
It appears that there is no news in USA worthy enough to communicate. The media seems to target Mr.Trump every day and it becomes very boring and pathetic. The media seems to have joined the ruling party, instead of being impartial. The Trump is being attacked in order to hide all failures in many other fronts. The day begins with Trump. I thought it would be over once the November election is over. Now again the day begins with Trump attack. Perhaps, it may continue till he agrees not to stand for 2024 election.
Andrew Boughton
1 year ago
Great piece. The false claim was a bit weird. The thing about Donald, though, is that the many epithets thrown at him are invisible, since he’s made of epithets. Perhaps his opponents just need to be more succinct.
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Andrew Boughton
1 year ago
Great piece. The false claim was a bit weird. The thing about Donald, though, is that the many epithets thrown at him are invisible, since he’s made of epithets. Perhaps his opponents just need to be more succinct.
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Alan Hawkes
1 year ago
Perhaps the influence of the media is exaggerated: it’s not exactly monolithic.
Daniel Lee
1 year ago
“As Adam Serwer of The Atlantic put it: ‘The cruelty is the point.’”
The entire Left has been calling ordinary middle class Americans vicious, racist, greedy, violent, cretins for literally decades as their supposed defenders in the mainstream Republican Party stood by cowed into silence. Even if you accept the idea that calling out a Dem politician on her cynical masquerading as a Native American is “Cruel” (which I don’t), it’s more like “The cruelty is payback.”
Now, about this “(T)he net worth of the poorer 50% of Americans has doubled since the first quarter of 2020.” Come on. In the brief space of two years how can this be anything but a book-cooking distortion of the plunge into and then recovery from the Covid hysteria?
Corey o,Connor
1 year ago
This writer doesn’t understand Trump or his base. And DeSantis is sanctimonious. He wrote a bill called don’t say gay. Trump and his base are much more open minded than people give them credit for. Trump is mainly into financial wellbeing of the country and he has always thought the life long political class have been making a mess of things. He isn’t the normal holier than now Republican of old days. DeSantis is ok. I like him enough. But as an independent I wouldn’t vote for him. I think he would be easily paid off and he would be not for the average working man. Trump is sort of a unicorn bc he has found his path in the Republican Party but he is more a populist. In the old days he would of been a Democrat. Like a Kennedy style one.
The bill was never called ‘don’t say gay’. That name was invented by critics of the bill. Get your facts straight. That particular bill does illustrate though, what I believe is DeSantis main problem. A lot of what he does is grandstanding and publicity stunts to fire up his base. He’s similar to Trump in many ways, but at least he manages to do his grandstanding and publicity mongering in a less offensive and buffoonish way. Like his confrontation with Disney. I agree with the principle that corporations should stay out of politics in general and corporations are not persons and should not have the same rights as actual people. The way he confronted them however, was silly and arguably counterproductive. Revoking their special tax district has no real consequences by itself. He could theoretically tax them now, but he probably doesn’t want to drive them out entirely because of the tourism dollars. Maybe with federal power he would actually confront corporations in a more meaningful way, or maybe he’s just scoring political points. The ‘don’t say gay’ bill’s basic stated purpose is to give parents control over their children’s education. Again, that’s something I can get behind, but some of the actual language of the bill seems rather narrowly construed toward sexual orientation, hence the derogatory nickname. I’d rather he have passed something that delegates more power over all school curricula to local school boards versus the state, so again, it leaves the question of how committed he really is to populist goals vs using populist rhetoric to get elected. Same thing with the busload of migrants sent to Martha’s Vineyard. Funny, but also pointless in the grand scheme of things. Half the reason I didn’t like Trump is that he never acted on many of his more populist sounding promises, the other half being that Trump is a buffoon and an embarrassment to the nation.
The bill isn’t called “don’t say gay” and it has nothing to do with saying the word “gay.” The bill says that K-3 teachers (third grade!) shouldn’t discuss their sexual preferences. Good idea.
The bill was never called ‘don’t say gay’. That name was invented by critics of the bill. Get your facts straight. That particular bill does illustrate though, what I believe is DeSantis main problem. A lot of what he does is grandstanding and publicity stunts to fire up his base. He’s similar to Trump in many ways, but at least he manages to do his grandstanding and publicity mongering in a less offensive and buffoonish way. Like his confrontation with Disney. I agree with the principle that corporations should stay out of politics in general and corporations are not persons and should not have the same rights as actual people. The way he confronted them however, was silly and arguably counterproductive. Revoking their special tax district has no real consequences by itself. He could theoretically tax them now, but he probably doesn’t want to drive them out entirely because of the tourism dollars. Maybe with federal power he would actually confront corporations in a more meaningful way, or maybe he’s just scoring political points. The ‘don’t say gay’ bill’s basic stated purpose is to give parents control over their children’s education. Again, that’s something I can get behind, but some of the actual language of the bill seems rather narrowly construed toward sexual orientation, hence the derogatory nickname. I’d rather he have passed something that delegates more power over all school curricula to local school boards versus the state, so again, it leaves the question of how committed he really is to populist goals vs using populist rhetoric to get elected. Same thing with the busload of migrants sent to Martha’s Vineyard. Funny, but also pointless in the grand scheme of things. Half the reason I didn’t like Trump is that he never acted on many of his more populist sounding promises, the other half being that Trump is a buffoon and an embarrassment to the nation.
The bill isn’t called “don’t say gay” and it has nothing to do with saying the word “gay.” The bill says that K-3 teachers (third grade!) shouldn’t discuss their sexual preferences. Good idea.
Corey o,Connor
1 year ago
This writer doesn’t understand Trump or his base. And DeSantis is sanctimonious. He wrote a bill called don’t say gay. Trump and his base are much more open minded than people give them credit for. Trump is mainly into financial wellbeing of the country and he has always thought the life long political class have been making a mess of things. He isn’t the normal holier than now Republican of old days. DeSantis is ok. I like him enough. But as an independent I wouldn’t vote for him. I think he would be easily paid off and he would be not for the average working man. Trump is sort of a unicorn bc he has found his path in the Republican Party but he is more a populist. In the old days he would of been a Democrat. Like a Kennedy style one.
Trump calls the fake indigenous Elizabeth Warren Pocahontas. Every Democrat in the universe calls white middle-class Americans racist-sexist-homophobes.
So your point is?
Not sure what *your* point is…
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That racist and sexist abuse is a dominant theme amongst Democrat Party supporters. If you can’t take it then don’t dish it out.
Glad to help
I think the point was: Christopher Chantrill hates Elizabeth Warren; Justin Webb appears not to hate Elizabeth Warren; so Christopher Chantrill lashes out at Justin Webb. In a word: triggered.
I get the point about Democrat hypocrisy about name-calling, and it’s a valid one. But it’s not what the article is about. And comments along the lines of “I’m very angry about X and so, unless an author spends time displaying parallel anger about it, I’m going to dismiss his or her article out of hand” aren’t any use. (They’ll get likes from the similarly triggered and angry but they waste others’ time because they’re not actually about the article we’ve just read.)
I think that his point is that pots call the kettle black.
I tend to agree. Mr Webb is not correct that Trump brought down Elizabeth Warren. Elizabeth Warren brought down Elizabeth Warren. Here are the facts, Mr Webb:
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“A DNA test is useless to determine tribal citizenship. Current DNA tests do not even distinguish whether a person’s ancestors were indigenous to North or South America. Sovereign tribal nations set their own legal requirements for citizenship, and while DNA tests can be used to determine lineage, such as paternity to an individual, it is not evidence for tribal affiliation.
Using a DNA test to lay claim to any connection to the Cherokee Nation or any tribal nation, even vaguely, is inappropriate and wrong. It makes a mockery out of DNA tests and its legitimate uses while also dishonoring legitimate tribal governments and their citizens, whose ancestors are well documented and whose heritage is proven. Senator Warren is undermining tribal interests with her continued claims of tribal heritage.”
– Cherokee Nation’s secretary of state, Chuck Hoskin Jr.
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I’m not sure why Trump is somehow responsible for Elizabeth Warren using cultural appropriation to further her Harvard career as well as her political aspirations.
Probably because no one else of any media and/or political importance would have called her out on the issue, a dna test would never have been done, and she would be given carte blanche to continue on as before.
In the mind of a liberal, that makes Trump responsible for her downfall. Something similar happened with Richard Nixon after his taking down Jerry Vorhees and Helen Gahalen Douglas.
While neither man was by any stretch of imagination perfect, one thing a liberal will not tolerate is an effective opposition. They even went to work on Reagan, saying all sorts of thing shown to have not been true.
Ollie North recently came out that the Democrats were offering him a plea deal of no penalty in return for testifying against Reagan. The object the Congressman said was to take down the president. North refused. These people play for keeps.
Probably because no one else of any media and/or political importance would have called her out on the issue, a dna test would never have been done, and she would be given carte blanche to continue on as before.
In the mind of a liberal, that makes Trump responsible for her downfall. Something similar happened with Richard Nixon after his taking down Jerry Vorhees and Helen Gahalen Douglas.
While neither man was by any stretch of imagination perfect, one thing a liberal will not tolerate is an effective opposition. They even went to work on Reagan, saying all sorts of thing shown to have not been true.
Ollie North recently came out that the Democrats were offering him a plea deal of no penalty in return for testifying against Reagan. The object the Congressman said was to take down the president. North refused. These people play for keeps.
I tend to agree. Mr Webb is not correct that Trump brought down Elizabeth Warren. Elizabeth Warren brought down Elizabeth Warren. Here are the facts, Mr Webb:
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“A DNA test is useless to determine tribal citizenship. Current DNA tests do not even distinguish whether a person’s ancestors were indigenous to North or South America. Sovereign tribal nations set their own legal requirements for citizenship, and while DNA tests can be used to determine lineage, such as paternity to an individual, it is not evidence for tribal affiliation.
Using a DNA test to lay claim to any connection to the Cherokee Nation or any tribal nation, even vaguely, is inappropriate and wrong. It makes a mockery out of DNA tests and its legitimate uses while also dishonoring legitimate tribal governments and their citizens, whose ancestors are well documented and whose heritage is proven. Senator Warren is undermining tribal interests with her continued claims of tribal heritage.”
– Cherokee Nation’s secretary of state, Chuck Hoskin Jr.
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I’m not sure why Trump is somehow responsible for Elizabeth Warren using cultural appropriation to further her Harvard career as well as her political aspirations.
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That racist and sexist abuse is a dominant theme amongst Democrat Party supporters. If you can’t take it then don’t dish it out.
Glad to help
I think the point was: Christopher Chantrill hates Elizabeth Warren; Justin Webb appears not to hate Elizabeth Warren; so Christopher Chantrill lashes out at Justin Webb. In a word: triggered.
I get the point about Democrat hypocrisy about name-calling, and it’s a valid one. But it’s not what the article is about. And comments along the lines of “I’m very angry about X and so, unless an author spends time displaying parallel anger about it, I’m going to dismiss his or her article out of hand” aren’t any use. (They’ll get likes from the similarly triggered and angry but they waste others’ time because they’re not actually about the article we’ve just read.)
I think that his point is that pots call the kettle black.
Liawatha was always a better name.
Webb is clueless. Just ignore his blathering. Trump can’t win the R nomination after his comments about DeSantis and Youngkin and the losers he backed. The only influence he can have is to run 3rd party and put SloJo or another demented Donkey back in office.
I liked Fauxcahontas.
Onomatopoeic?
Onomatopoeic?
I liked Fauxcahontas.
Whether he knows it or not (I think he does), Pres. Trump is not calling any particular person names. He is, rather, calling a way of thinking about human affairs names. His target is ideology. He would wrestle with the world as it is given to us. Ms. Warren would recreate that world. His approach is all shouting and angst, for there is no other way when it come to ideology. Mr. Desantis fails to know this at his peril.
PRECISELY! The main reason why the left HATES Trump is that they see themselves in the mirror when they look and listen to him. He’s completely on to them, unlike so many previous republican candidates. Just because the hate is institutionalized on the left doesn’t mean it’s not hate.
So you inhabit a universe where no Democrats are white and middle-class?
What about, what about?
Not sure what *your* point is…
Liawatha was always a better name.
Webb is clueless. Just ignore his blathering. Trump can’t win the R nomination after his comments about DeSantis and Youngkin and the losers he backed. The only influence he can have is to run 3rd party and put SloJo or another demented Donkey back in office.
Whether he knows it or not (I think he does), Pres. Trump is not calling any particular person names. He is, rather, calling a way of thinking about human affairs names. His target is ideology. He would wrestle with the world as it is given to us. Ms. Warren would recreate that world. His approach is all shouting and angst, for there is no other way when it come to ideology. Mr. Desantis fails to know this at his peril.
PRECISELY! The main reason why the left HATES Trump is that they see themselves in the mirror when they look and listen to him. He’s completely on to them, unlike so many previous republican candidates. Just because the hate is institutionalized on the left doesn’t mean it’s not hate.
So you inhabit a universe where no Democrats are white and middle-class?
What about, what about?
Trump calls the fake indigenous Elizabeth Warren Pocahontas. Every Democrat in the universe calls white middle-class Americans racist-sexist-homophobes.
So your point is?
The reason why ‘Pocahontas’ strikes home is because it encapsulates a truth: ‘Whatever her other virtues, this woman is pretentious, virtue-signalling and slightly dishonest.’
The best political insults always contain at least a grain of truth. When I mention Sleepy Joe, Worzel Gummidge or the Welsh windbag you immediately know who I mean. But these are not thoughts we are ‘ashamed of thinking.’ Quite the contrary. More like, ‘I wish I’d thought of that!’
Only slightly dishonest?
I think being only ‘slightly’ dishonest probably disqualifies one from a political career in America. You could probably be a ‘slightly dishonest’ political intern or maybe a lobbyist, but you can’t get elected dog-catcher if you can’t say the sky is green with a straight face.
I think being only ‘slightly’ dishonest probably disqualifies one from a political career in America. You could probably be a ‘slightly dishonest’ political intern or maybe a lobbyist, but you can’t get elected dog-catcher if you can’t say the sky is green with a straight face.
Reading the list of his insults was a lustrous endorphin assault on my senses–I thrilled to his “Lock Her UP!” way back when. I thought he was (and is) vulgar–but in light of Biden’s performance to date, I will definitely consider cleaning house by voting R–the which I have never done in my life. The prospect of serious inquiry into Hunter Biden’s lap top thrills me with hope. Bring em all down. Starting anywhere. Samson could only pull down the tower of Dagon. Not bad for a day’s work, if you believe in Jehova nonsense. But the metaphor is apt. The lazy old pustule we name Trump may be our own post modern Samson, vulgar rhetoric and all. Wait? Who was Cleon the Tanner, anyway?
Only slightly dishonest?
Reading the list of his insults was a lustrous endorphin assault on my senses–I thrilled to his “Lock Her UP!” way back when. I thought he was (and is) vulgar–but in light of Biden’s performance to date, I will definitely consider cleaning house by voting R–the which I have never done in my life. The prospect of serious inquiry into Hunter Biden’s lap top thrills me with hope. Bring em all down. Starting anywhere. Samson could only pull down the tower of Dagon. Not bad for a day’s work, if you believe in Jehova nonsense. But the metaphor is apt. The lazy old pustule we name Trump may be our own post modern Samson, vulgar rhetoric and all. Wait? Who was Cleon the Tanner, anyway?
The reason why ‘Pocahontas’ strikes home is because it encapsulates a truth: ‘Whatever her other virtues, this woman is pretentious, virtue-signalling and slightly dishonest.’
The best political insults always contain at least a grain of truth. When I mention Sleepy Joe, Worzel Gummidge or the Welsh windbag you immediately know who I mean. But these are not thoughts we are ‘ashamed of thinking.’ Quite the contrary. More like, ‘I wish I’d thought of that!’
“The senior senator from Massachusetts is in many ways hugely qualified for the job.”
Anyone who thinks that claiming to be a “something-American” ( No matter what the something is) is a plus, has demonstrated that they are not fit to run anything, anywhere.
I get the impression, as an outsider, that the secret to Trump’s success is the pathetic inadequacy of the rest of the political class in the US. We have a similar problem here in the UK. Why else do you think that “Boris” got elected PM, or any of the other pygmies that came after him for that matter ( I forget their names)?
I read that sentence and dismissed the entire piece. I think even Warren herself would laugh out loud.
Elizabeth Warren could only win in Communist Massachusetts
Speaking from my experience as an American citizen, I wholeheartedly agree with your impression, although it’s not really ‘inadequacy’ per se or even incompetence that’s the problem. The political class became too much a product of Harvard/Yale academia, Wall Street money, and Hollywood celebrity. They failed to understand Trump because they so fundamentally misunderstand vast swaths of the American public, and they continue to do so. The media, unfortunately, seems to fall into the same perceptual trap, overestimating Trump’s ability to psychologically manipulate people and dismissing his supporters as ignorant, gullible peasants. It’s not about the anger or the name calling. It’s not even about basic competency. It’s about actually listening to and pursuing the interests of the actual citizenry rather than taking all their cues from bureaucrats, bankers, intellectuals, and ‘experts’.
Thankyou for that explanation.
Don’t forget it’s also about promising people, their jobs will come back when trump knows that they won’t, or telling African-Americans to vote for you, because what have you got to lose?
Thankyou for that explanation.
Don’t forget it’s also about promising people, their jobs will come back when trump knows that they won’t, or telling African-Americans to vote for you, because what have you got to lose?
I read that sentence and dismissed the entire piece. I think even Warren herself would laugh out loud.
Elizabeth Warren could only win in Communist Massachusetts
Speaking from my experience as an American citizen, I wholeheartedly agree with your impression, although it’s not really ‘inadequacy’ per se or even incompetence that’s the problem. The political class became too much a product of Harvard/Yale academia, Wall Street money, and Hollywood celebrity. They failed to understand Trump because they so fundamentally misunderstand vast swaths of the American public, and they continue to do so. The media, unfortunately, seems to fall into the same perceptual trap, overestimating Trump’s ability to psychologically manipulate people and dismissing his supporters as ignorant, gullible peasants. It’s not about the anger or the name calling. It’s not even about basic competency. It’s about actually listening to and pursuing the interests of the actual citizenry rather than taking all their cues from bureaucrats, bankers, intellectuals, and ‘experts’.
“The senior senator from Massachusetts is in many ways hugely qualified for the job.”
Anyone who thinks that claiming to be a “something-American” ( No matter what the something is) is a plus, has demonstrated that they are not fit to run anything, anywhere.
I get the impression, as an outsider, that the secret to Trump’s success is the pathetic inadequacy of the rest of the political class in the US. We have a similar problem here in the UK. Why else do you think that “Boris” got elected PM, or any of the other pygmies that came after him for that matter ( I forget their names)?
Not sure that Elizabeth Warren is as impressive as the author claims. To hear EW rail against Elon Musk as a mere leech who got rich by bloodsucking on the roads and public services provided by the state is risible. And not sure it resonates with Americans who tend to love a winner, even if (especially if?) he is rich.
I often hear that silly argument about the all-giving state.
Where do these people think the state gets the cash from for what, after all, are only the basic services that we net taxpayers would like to think we are getting for our contributions?
But Musk is a serial scammer, solar roofs, hyperloop, Las Vegas Loop etc etc etc.
I often hear that silly argument about the all-giving state.
Where do these people think the state gets the cash from for what, after all, are only the basic services that we net taxpayers would like to think we are getting for our contributions?
But Musk is a serial scammer, solar roofs, hyperloop, Las Vegas Loop etc etc etc.
Not sure that Elizabeth Warren is as impressive as the author claims. To hear EW rail against Elon Musk as a mere leech who got rich by bloodsucking on the roads and public services provided by the state is risible. And not sure it resonates with Americans who tend to love a winner, even if (especially if?) he is rich.
I’m not sure Justin really gets it. Doesn’t he think it’s (at best) a wee bit silly for Warren to pretend she has a minority status for clout and a little flavour? So Trump was, gasp, RUDE in pointing it out. Meh. If her entire career could be detailed because of “one man, one word” it wasn’t that great, was it?
It’s not voters’ responsibility to act as if politicians are respectable and quality prospects when they’re not. Journalists do quite enough of that.
I’m not sure Justin really gets it. Doesn’t he think it’s (at best) a wee bit silly for Warren to pretend she has a minority status for clout and a little flavour? So Trump was, gasp, RUDE in pointing it out. Meh. If her entire career could be detailed because of “one man, one word” it wasn’t that great, was it?
It’s not voters’ responsibility to act as if politicians are respectable and quality prospects when they’re not. Journalists do quite enough of that.
Giving the snakes from the Lincoln project airtime is a sure-fire way to get a portion of people angry enough again. From what I’ve seen of DeSantis so far I would prefer him over Trump… but if the Lincoln project are endorsing him that’s a red flag.
DeSantis is no fool. He knows that if these people get their way and destroy Trump, they will stab him in the back immediately afterwards. I cannot wait for the “maybe DeSantis was never that great” movement from National Review and The Bulwark if he refuses to cave under establishment pressure like Bernie did for the Democrats. It gets hilarious if you look at the candidates the party leadership likes and start mentally calculating the odds of them getting elected. Pence? Hailey? Cheney? Funny enough, one of the reasons for DeSantis’s rising popularity is he knows these people are trying to use him as just another mouthpiece to attack Trump and instead only responds to them and Trump on his own terms. Just look at the FU letter his team sent The View a while ago (look it up, it is a good response).
I wouldn’t let the Lincoln Project endorsement put you off. They’re true single-issue (or in this case, single person) voters. They’ll endorse ANYONE not named Donald Trump.
The funny thing is that they think anyone is still listening to them.
Their democrat donors still credit them with some influence.
They pretty much discredited themselves with a dirty trick a while back. I took my name off their mailing list and I think a lot of other people did too.
Their democrat donors still credit them with some influence.
They pretty much discredited themselves with a dirty trick a while back. I took my name off their mailing list and I think a lot of other people did too.
Trump’s best shot at DeSantis, if he runs, is to paint the man as another establishment tool. Difficult, given his record, but not impossible if every deep pocketed donor in the party starts lining up behind Ron. That’s how Trump won the 2016 primary. The better play for the Republican establishment is to let the candidates have a primary with minimal outside interference and hold their money for the general election. The Lincoln project won’t do that, but nobody thinks they’re actual Republicans anyway.
DeSantis is no fool. He knows that if these people get their way and destroy Trump, they will stab him in the back immediately afterwards. I cannot wait for the “maybe DeSantis was never that great” movement from National Review and The Bulwark if he refuses to cave under establishment pressure like Bernie did for the Democrats. It gets hilarious if you look at the candidates the party leadership likes and start mentally calculating the odds of them getting elected. Pence? Hailey? Cheney? Funny enough, one of the reasons for DeSantis’s rising popularity is he knows these people are trying to use him as just another mouthpiece to attack Trump and instead only responds to them and Trump on his own terms. Just look at the FU letter his team sent The View a while ago (look it up, it is a good response).
I wouldn’t let the Lincoln Project endorsement put you off. They’re true single-issue (or in this case, single person) voters. They’ll endorse ANYONE not named Donald Trump.
The funny thing is that they think anyone is still listening to them.
Trump’s best shot at DeSantis, if he runs, is to paint the man as another establishment tool. Difficult, given his record, but not impossible if every deep pocketed donor in the party starts lining up behind Ron. That’s how Trump won the 2016 primary. The better play for the Republican establishment is to let the candidates have a primary with minimal outside interference and hold their money for the general election. The Lincoln project won’t do that, but nobody thinks they’re actual Republicans anyway.
Giving the snakes from the Lincoln project airtime is a sure-fire way to get a portion of people angry enough again. From what I’ve seen of DeSantis so far I would prefer him over Trump… but if the Lincoln project are endorsing him that’s a red flag.
Warren did a lot more than sign a cook book. She used her “native heritage” to get jobs and positions. Either way, its really gross and off putting.
I also do not think that DeSantis is as bad as this article would make him out to be.
As for Trump, well, he will always be Trump, but to this day I am not convinced that he ever really wanted the job of president. I am not sure he really wants it now beyond simply having an overwhelming desire to thumb his nose at the media and the democrats. That said…two things…
He does not seem to have the energy that he used to.Could be he is just getting older but I would toss in the fact that his kids seem less interested in following him. Ivanka, his best surrogate, is clearly not going along.I think the media have figured out that the best way to beat Trump is to ignore him and I suspect that that is precisely what is going to happen. There was barely ANY attention given to his announcement that he was running.
No, I think we are going to get a DeSantis nomination and then very likely a minority, possibly a minority woman, as the VP. Could be Haley, could even be someone like Tulsi Gabbard or Winsome Sears.
I agree about Trump’s apparent waning energy. That his children don’t seem as eager as they were in 2016 is interesting. And DeSantis is smart in ignoring Trump at this point. Trump is a bully and the more one ignores a bully the more the bully bullies until it is apparent to all that the bullying doesn’t work as well as it once did.
Tulsi is kind of a loose cannon. I like her but she is so wrong on Ukraine, which is our chief security concern right now. If the Rs have any sense they will nominate someone who is predictable, steady as she goes. I’d go for Haley.
I agree about Trump’s apparent waning energy. That his children don’t seem as eager as they were in 2016 is interesting. And DeSantis is smart in ignoring Trump at this point. Trump is a bully and the more one ignores a bully the more the bully bullies until it is apparent to all that the bullying doesn’t work as well as it once did.
Tulsi is kind of a loose cannon. I like her but she is so wrong on Ukraine, which is our chief security concern right now. If the Rs have any sense they will nominate someone who is predictable, steady as she goes. I’d go for Haley.
Warren did a lot more than sign a cook book. She used her “native heritage” to get jobs and positions. Either way, its really gross and off putting.
I also do not think that DeSantis is as bad as this article would make him out to be.
As for Trump, well, he will always be Trump, but to this day I am not convinced that he ever really wanted the job of president. I am not sure he really wants it now beyond simply having an overwhelming desire to thumb his nose at the media and the democrats. That said…two things…
He does not seem to have the energy that he used to.Could be he is just getting older but I would toss in the fact that his kids seem less interested in following him. Ivanka, his best surrogate, is clearly not going along.I think the media have figured out that the best way to beat Trump is to ignore him and I suspect that that is precisely what is going to happen. There was barely ANY attention given to his announcement that he was running.
No, I think we are going to get a DeSantis nomination and then very likely a minority, possibly a minority woman, as the VP. Could be Haley, could even be someone like Tulsi Gabbard or Winsome Sears.
Trump’s name-calling will be subject for many PhD theses to come. Do note he effectively targeted individuals only – went right for their Achilles’ heels. In comparison, Democrat leaders disparaged entire classes of people, not exactly a vote-for-me-strategy and cynical to the core; Hillary with her ‘super-predators’ (inner city blacks), ‘irredeemable deplorables’, Obama’s ‘bible thumpers, who cling to their guns’ and just recently Biden’s ‘semi- fascist’ and ‘you ain’t black unless you vote Democrat’. Trump never, ever disparaged the electorate which in my book was actually taking the moral high road. Instead, he attacked people who had self-important, narcissistic balloons to burst.
Part of the effectiveness was to tie the insult to the first name. It gave the impression he actually knew them (in many cases he did) which made the insult all the more believable. “Crooked Hilary”, “Lying Ted”, “Little Marco”, Low Energy Jeb”
Part of the effectiveness was to tie the insult to the first name. It gave the impression he actually knew them (in many cases he did) which made the insult all the more believable. “Crooked Hilary”, “Lying Ted”, “Little Marco”, Low Energy Jeb”
Trump’s name-calling will be subject for many PhD theses to come. Do note he effectively targeted individuals only – went right for their Achilles’ heels. In comparison, Democrat leaders disparaged entire classes of people, not exactly a vote-for-me-strategy and cynical to the core; Hillary with her ‘super-predators’ (inner city blacks), ‘irredeemable deplorables’, Obama’s ‘bible thumpers, who cling to their guns’ and just recently Biden’s ‘semi- fascist’ and ‘you ain’t black unless you vote Democrat’. Trump never, ever disparaged the electorate which in my book was actually taking the moral high road. Instead, he attacked people who had self-important, narcissistic balloons to burst.
Lame apology. Even thirty years ago there were convenient genealogists to VET your claims before padding the resume. Warren still owes reparations for the minorities she cheated out of a job for 30 years by falsely portraying herself as Native American.
Lame apology. Even thirty years ago there were convenient genealogists to VET your claims before padding the resume. Warren still owes reparations for the minorities she cheated out of a job for 30 years by falsely portraying herself as Native American.
Is there any sign that the Elite Democrats are going to back down from their progressive woke, BLM, trans propaganda, machine politics? Because as long as the Democrats pursue a ‘far left’ agenda the Republicans and independents are going to react against it.
“Temperate, “nice,” and milquetoast is what Dems desperately want the GOP to revert to. Think of Charlie Brown vs. Lucy, always playing by her rules and never kicking the football.
For all his faults, which are many, Trump did yeoman service in tearing off masks from both the Left and the GOP establishment. While I personally think that there are better standard bearers for 2024, I also feel that the GOP needs to do done with the McConnell wing of the party, who are more than willing to lose whilst maintaining leadership and hoovering up campaign contributions. Even more so folks like Lynn Cheney.
Yes! That is the reason why they hate him so much.
Yes! That is the reason why they hate him so much.
“Temperate, “nice,” and milquetoast is what Dems desperately want the GOP to revert to. Think of Charlie Brown vs. Lucy, always playing by her rules and never kicking the football.
For all his faults, which are many, Trump did yeoman service in tearing off masks from both the Left and the GOP establishment. While I personally think that there are better standard bearers for 2024, I also feel that the GOP needs to do done with the McConnell wing of the party, who are more than willing to lose whilst maintaining leadership and hoovering up campaign contributions. Even more so folks like Lynn Cheney.
Is there any sign that the Elite Democrats are going to back down from their progressive woke, BLM, trans propaganda, machine politics? Because as long as the Democrats pursue a ‘far left’ agenda the Republicans and independents are going to react against it.
He’s the BBC correspondent. That kinda positions him don’t you think?
He’s the BBC correspondent. That kinda positions him don’t you think?
Good article. The dilemma the Republicans face – DeSantis can win the White House, but Trump might do irreparable damage to him before the chance arrives. As the author says, this is the dragon they chose to ride.
Good article. The dilemma the Republicans face – DeSantis can win the White House, but Trump might do irreparable damage to him before the chance arrives. As the author says, this is the dragon they chose to ride.
Warren was doomed well before Trump – her inability to tell the truth, while not ever rising to the level of Hillary’s obfuscations, was nonetheless habitual. This was why she was never nominated to run the CFPB she got Obama to create – her Cherokee lies and pandering were already poison to further advancement.
But the author says she only signed a cookbook. Buhahahaha.
But the author says she only signed a cookbook. Buhahahaha.
Warren was doomed well before Trump – her inability to tell the truth, while not ever rising to the level of Hillary’s obfuscations, was nonetheless habitual. This was why she was never nominated to run the CFPB she got Obama to create – her Cherokee lies and pandering were already poison to further advancement.
Warren is a fraud and a liar, simple as that.
Warren is a fraud and a liar, simple as that.
Trump is an amazingly talented bully while being a relatively astute judge of character. His nicknames stick because they are unfortunately applicable. He reminds me of Dickens…he always came up with the best names for characters. .
He is also a media villain, which by design, makes him a media darling. He “sells”. The point the media is missing, and I think Trump himself misses, is that although he still has a core in the US….many people are also bored with him. He played his tricks. He put on his show. America’s swing voters, with their typical Attention Deficit Disorder, are looking for a new hero. Whereas before he took the country by storm, now he will have to outdo himself in terms of entertainment and promises. I don’t think he can do it.
Don’t get me wrong, he’s still amusing to watch at times, but all he will do now is split the GOP vote. Unless the Democrats throw up a complete moron, which they are apt to do considering their current crop of candidates, they will probably win. Trump will never, EVER, back down.We already know he could care less about any political party. He will fight on unless he feels he is losing too much face, at which point he will blame anyone and anything else for the failure. But I think by the time that happens, the damage may already be done.
Perhaps he and Boris will skip off into the sunset together.
Trump is an amazingly talented bully while being a relatively astute judge of character. His nicknames stick because they are unfortunately applicable. He reminds me of Dickens…he always came up with the best names for characters. .
He is also a media villain, which by design, makes him a media darling. He “sells”. The point the media is missing, and I think Trump himself misses, is that although he still has a core in the US….many people are also bored with him. He played his tricks. He put on his show. America’s swing voters, with their typical Attention Deficit Disorder, are looking for a new hero. Whereas before he took the country by storm, now he will have to outdo himself in terms of entertainment and promises. I don’t think he can do it.
Don’t get me wrong, he’s still amusing to watch at times, but all he will do now is split the GOP vote. Unless the Democrats throw up a complete moron, which they are apt to do considering their current crop of candidates, they will probably win. Trump will never, EVER, back down.We already know he could care less about any political party. He will fight on unless he feels he is losing too much face, at which point he will blame anyone and anything else for the failure. But I think by the time that happens, the damage may already be done.
Perhaps he and Boris will skip off into the sunset together.
Surely there is one word guaranteed to excite the limbic cortex system, particularly of Americans.
Since 2020, both the result and the almost entire reversal of his legislative program with a few strokes of a pen, and 2022, he is now, demonstrably, a Loser.
All De Santis has to do is hold his hand to his forehead, forefinger and thumb at right angles.
Surely there is one word guaranteed to excite the limbic cortex system, particularly of Americans.
Since 2020, both the result and the almost entire reversal of his legislative program with a few strokes of a pen, and 2022, he is now, demonstrably, a Loser.
All De Santis has to do is hold his hand to his forehead, forefinger and thumb at right angles.
Kudos to the writer for his lung power in inflating a nothing-burger into something to put between a thin bun, but he’s dead wrong about DeSantis. This guy took on the all-powerful Disney Company in Florida on issues people care about and emerged a big-time winner. He is clued in to the people who are generally described in the largely dispised mainstream media as Trump’s base. He is not nasty, which by now is a saving grace and isn’t ridiculously full of himself. He will be the GOP nominee — guaranteed.
Kudos to the writer for his lung power in inflating a nothing-burger into something to put between a thin bun, but he’s dead wrong about DeSantis. This guy took on the all-powerful Disney Company in Florida on issues people care about and emerged a big-time winner. He is clued in to the people who are generally described in the largely dispised mainstream media as Trump’s base. He is not nasty, which by now is a saving grace and isn’t ridiculously full of himself. He will be the GOP nominee — guaranteed.
People voted for Trump mainly because he was real. Most of the others spoke poll tested rubbish hiding behind words of little meaning. You had no idea what they stood for or believed. Not Trump, he was candid, off the cuff, real. DeSantis has a similar yet more thoughtful way of speaking; he too comes across as real. Who knows what will happen on the way to ’24? After Sleepy Joe almost anything would be better. The default has been awful.
People voted for Trump mainly because he was real. Most of the others spoke poll tested rubbish hiding behind words of little meaning. You had no idea what they stood for or believed. Not Trump, he was candid, off the cuff, real. DeSantis has a similar yet more thoughtful way of speaking; he too comes across as real. Who knows what will happen on the way to ’24? After Sleepy Joe almost anything would be better. The default has been awful.
Oh and screw Elizabeth Warren and her take down of crypto. Another thing the average American doesn’t support. Most freedom loving Americans support innovation in tech a dollar bill that can’t be controlled by globalists.
Oh and screw Elizabeth Warren and her take down of crypto. Another thing the average American doesn’t support. Most freedom loving Americans support innovation in tech a dollar bill that can’t be controlled by globalists.
All of the conservative establishment knives are out again for Trump as they were the day he entered the 2016 race. In Washington, nobody loves him. He is not dedicated to a set of ideas which they share. He only exists for his own glory and power, and he is only seen as a vehicle for their power. There is no honor among thieves.
They were able to turn against him in a nanosecond the poor moment midterms results started coming in, showing that his hand-picked nutjob candidates lost, because he no longer looked like a suitable vehicle for their power.
The author has it right that the establishment is not going to get rid of him that easily, however. But not because of his ability to gore personalities with his nicknames. His ability to shock, and therefore entertain, has waned as people have become inured to his crassness.
He will become the nominee (and lose the general election badly), exactly because the entire establishment is now against him, as they were in 2016.
Good points. I’m fairly conservative, but it seems UnHerd’s comments section has been targeted for slander by particular American conservatives. The publication’s foolish unified ‘upvote-downvote’ net count enables them to bully commenters with whom they disagree.
Good points. I’m fairly conservative, but it seems UnHerd’s comments section has been targeted for slander by particular American conservatives. The publication’s foolish unified ‘upvote-downvote’ net count enables them to bully commenters with whom they disagree.
All of the conservative establishment knives are out again for Trump as they were the day he entered the 2016 race. In Washington, nobody loves him. He is not dedicated to a set of ideas which they share. He only exists for his own glory and power, and he is only seen as a vehicle for their power. There is no honor among thieves.
They were able to turn against him in a nanosecond the poor moment midterms results started coming in, showing that his hand-picked nutjob candidates lost, because he no longer looked like a suitable vehicle for their power.
The author has it right that the establishment is not going to get rid of him that easily, however. But not because of his ability to gore personalities with his nicknames. His ability to shock, and therefore entertain, has waned as people have become inured to his crassness.
He will become the nominee (and lose the general election badly), exactly because the entire establishment is now against him, as they were in 2016.
It appears that there is no news in USA worthy enough to communicate. The media seems to target Mr.Trump every day and it becomes very boring and pathetic. The media seems to have joined the ruling party, instead of being impartial. The Trump is being attacked in order to hide all failures in many other fronts. The day begins with Trump. I thought it would be over once the November election is over. Now again the day begins with Trump attack. Perhaps, it may continue till he agrees not to stand for 2024 election.
It appears that there is no news in USA worthy enough to communicate. The media seems to target Mr.Trump every day and it becomes very boring and pathetic. The media seems to have joined the ruling party, instead of being impartial. The Trump is being attacked in order to hide all failures in many other fronts. The day begins with Trump. I thought it would be over once the November election is over. Now again the day begins with Trump attack. Perhaps, it may continue till he agrees not to stand for 2024 election.
Great piece. The false claim was a bit weird. The thing about Donald, though, is that the many epithets thrown at him are invisible, since he’s made of epithets. Perhaps his opponents just need to be more succinct.
Great piece. The false claim was a bit weird. The thing about Donald, though, is that the many epithets thrown at him are invisible, since he’s made of epithets. Perhaps his opponents just need to be more succinct.
Perhaps the influence of the media is exaggerated: it’s not exactly monolithic.
“As Adam Serwer of The Atlantic put it: ‘The cruelty is the point.’”
The entire Left has been calling ordinary middle class Americans vicious, racist, greedy, violent, cretins for literally decades as their supposed defenders in the mainstream Republican Party stood by cowed into silence. Even if you accept the idea that calling out a Dem politician on her cynical masquerading as a Native American is “Cruel” (which I don’t), it’s more like “The cruelty is payback.”
Now, about this “(T)he net worth of the poorer 50% of Americans has doubled since the first quarter of 2020.” Come on. In the brief space of two years how can this be anything but a book-cooking distortion of the plunge into and then recovery from the Covid hysteria?
This writer doesn’t understand Trump or his base. And DeSantis is sanctimonious. He wrote a bill called don’t say gay. Trump and his base are much more open minded than people give them credit for. Trump is mainly into financial wellbeing of the country and he has always thought the life long political class have been making a mess of things. He isn’t the normal holier than now Republican of old days. DeSantis is ok. I like him enough. But as an independent I wouldn’t vote for him. I think he would be easily paid off and he would be not for the average working man. Trump is sort of a unicorn bc he has found his path in the Republican Party but he is more a populist. In the old days he would of been a Democrat. Like a Kennedy style one.
The bill was never called ‘don’t say gay’. That name was invented by critics of the bill. Get your facts straight. That particular bill does illustrate though, what I believe is DeSantis main problem. A lot of what he does is grandstanding and publicity stunts to fire up his base. He’s similar to Trump in many ways, but at least he manages to do his grandstanding and publicity mongering in a less offensive and buffoonish way. Like his confrontation with Disney. I agree with the principle that corporations should stay out of politics in general and corporations are not persons and should not have the same rights as actual people. The way he confronted them however, was silly and arguably counterproductive. Revoking their special tax district has no real consequences by itself. He could theoretically tax them now, but he probably doesn’t want to drive them out entirely because of the tourism dollars. Maybe with federal power he would actually confront corporations in a more meaningful way, or maybe he’s just scoring political points. The ‘don’t say gay’ bill’s basic stated purpose is to give parents control over their children’s education. Again, that’s something I can get behind, but some of the actual language of the bill seems rather narrowly construed toward sexual orientation, hence the derogatory nickname. I’d rather he have passed something that delegates more power over all school curricula to local school boards versus the state, so again, it leaves the question of how committed he really is to populist goals vs using populist rhetoric to get elected. Same thing with the busload of migrants sent to Martha’s Vineyard. Funny, but also pointless in the grand scheme of things. Half the reason I didn’t like Trump is that he never acted on many of his more populist sounding promises, the other half being that Trump is a buffoon and an embarrassment to the nation.
The bill isn’t called “don’t say gay” and it has nothing to do with saying the word “gay.” The bill says that K-3 teachers (third grade!) shouldn’t discuss their sexual preferences. Good idea.
The bill was never called ‘don’t say gay’. That name was invented by critics of the bill. Get your facts straight. That particular bill does illustrate though, what I believe is DeSantis main problem. A lot of what he does is grandstanding and publicity stunts to fire up his base. He’s similar to Trump in many ways, but at least he manages to do his grandstanding and publicity mongering in a less offensive and buffoonish way. Like his confrontation with Disney. I agree with the principle that corporations should stay out of politics in general and corporations are not persons and should not have the same rights as actual people. The way he confronted them however, was silly and arguably counterproductive. Revoking their special tax district has no real consequences by itself. He could theoretically tax them now, but he probably doesn’t want to drive them out entirely because of the tourism dollars. Maybe with federal power he would actually confront corporations in a more meaningful way, or maybe he’s just scoring political points. The ‘don’t say gay’ bill’s basic stated purpose is to give parents control over their children’s education. Again, that’s something I can get behind, but some of the actual language of the bill seems rather narrowly construed toward sexual orientation, hence the derogatory nickname. I’d rather he have passed something that delegates more power over all school curricula to local school boards versus the state, so again, it leaves the question of how committed he really is to populist goals vs using populist rhetoric to get elected. Same thing with the busload of migrants sent to Martha’s Vineyard. Funny, but also pointless in the grand scheme of things. Half the reason I didn’t like Trump is that he never acted on many of his more populist sounding promises, the other half being that Trump is a buffoon and an embarrassment to the nation.
The bill isn’t called “don’t say gay” and it has nothing to do with saying the word “gay.” The bill says that K-3 teachers (third grade!) shouldn’t discuss their sexual preferences. Good idea.
This writer doesn’t understand Trump or his base. And DeSantis is sanctimonious. He wrote a bill called don’t say gay. Trump and his base are much more open minded than people give them credit for. Trump is mainly into financial wellbeing of the country and he has always thought the life long political class have been making a mess of things. He isn’t the normal holier than now Republican of old days. DeSantis is ok. I like him enough. But as an independent I wouldn’t vote for him. I think he would be easily paid off and he would be not for the average working man. Trump is sort of a unicorn bc he has found his path in the Republican Party but he is more a populist. In the old days he would of been a Democrat. Like a Kennedy style one.