Good to see Julie Bindel seeking a legal remedy against a bigoted decision to exclude her and that she seems to have carried the day. Legal remedies against the suppression of free expression should be sought more frequently.
Richard Craven
1 year ago
‘Cllr Rosemary Healy in response to a complaint about the cancellation:
“Ms Bindel … has also demonstrated homophobic and biphobic views in the past that we take issue with.”’
Julie Bindel has demonstrated no homophobic or biphobic views whatsoever, and should seek legal redress from Cllr Healy for this flagrant libel.
Cllr Rosemary Healy has posted these sentiments:
“For me to be able to pick up a book and read the carefully considered words of key figures in any country or period of history at will is thrilling.
Creativity can unlock potential talent and promote our shared culture, which brings communities together at a time when so much of life is in isolation much to our detriment. Nottingham has much to celebrate culturally but we must build on this or risk losing it.”
From this one might conclude she is a keen free speech advocate who wishes to “bring communities together”.
However, she has form having been suspended as a Labour Councillor for retweeting a modified Tory poster suggesting Tory plans led to the death camp of Auschwitz. She claimed not to have noticed the destination indicated. So clearly not too hot on detail but high on hypocrisy if you compare her words above with her attitude to Tory’s and Julie Bindel ( a juxtaposition I never thought I would see).
Julie Bindel is certainly not homophobic as anyone with the slightest acquaintances with her writing can observe.
Just as the torturer O’Brien in 1984 wants Winston to agree to whatever the Party says is the truth at any time so we are being taught that there is no truth but that which is officially endorsed. We all know that a man can’t become a woman by stating he is one or even by undergoing surgery and chemical castration but the dial is being turned to ensure that we accept the official lie, whatever that is. At present the Stonewall official lie is that a man simply has to declare he is a woman but the actual official lie has not progressed that far yet. As far as Ms Healy is concerned Julie Bindel is an official enemy of the people and so must be homophobic despite the ample evidence to the contrary.
In the struggle session model, the dictatorship of the proletariat is infallible. Thus, attempting to defend yourself is an admission of guilt, and a counter-revolutionary act in and of itself.
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Steve Murray
1 year ago
When a previous article appeared on Unherd not long since where she outlined what had happened with NCC, i expressed the hope that she would do exactly what she’s done.
It’s one victory, but an important one; not least because it sends a vital ‘pushback’ signal against Woke-captured bodies and institutions who seek to silence perfectly legitimate positions on sex, gender and protected spaces for biological women.
I’ll express a further hope; that Julie uses this victory as a springboard for further pushback, and as a beacon for others to do the same.
“We did not want the use of one of our library buildings for this event, taking place during Pride month, to be seen as implicit support for the views held by the speaker” The problem with stupid comments like this, is that if the council does not allow events because it would be seen as implicit support for the speaker’s views, then it follows that the views expressed by speakers at events which it does allow can legitimately be seen as endorsed by the council. It can’t have it both ways.
Well said. I am wholeheartedly in support of Trans rights, and have family and friends who are transgender. I also accept that hate speech is something that must not be allowed free reign, especially in public properties. However, the hard fought rights of LGB and T as well as those of all women, and indeed the emancipation of all men and women, cannot be subservient to one section of society exclusively and without contention. When this happens especially within and between a group with shared goals, such as the LGBT community, then it echoes the madness of the far left and their pursuit of ideological purity with no dissent allowed. I congratulate Julie on winning a small but significant battle on behalf of all citizens of this country, to ensure that the freedom of speech and assembly are not “rubber stamped” away without, at the very least, the right to open appeal and discussion. Otherwise, where lies the future of one of our basic freedoms?
I agree but wonder if the “trans” activists have any shared goals with the LGBT community or indeed any other community. They are merely a violent rent-a-mob that happens to follow Labour/snp/swp ideologies. In the 70s the same crowd would join F Troop or the NF. Attracting such supporters should worry Labour/SNP but i expect they are either not bothered or worse quite proud of the glamour they think rubs off from the violence they’ve unleashed.
That’s simply your bias-where is any evidence that such people joined labour,et al? The trouble with all this stuff is that “conservatives” get to join is and bash the LGBT community under the guise of “support”.
My niece declared herself transgender about 18 months ago. She is a young teenager, and more than anything needs protection from the unsavoury individuals behind organisations like Stonewall and above all Mermaids.
Peter Francis
1 year ago
Well done Julie! Nottingham City Council define “inclusive” as meaning they exclude anyone who dares to differ from Stonewall.
And please ensure that this report and the details of the case are transmitted to the Local Goverment Association (LGA) the representative organisation of Councils in England.
Stuart Rose
1 year ago
Excuse me, Julie, for catching up with the news a few weeks late, but how heartening it was to read about the blow you struck for free speech, sanity, and against the hateful and cowardly spirit of censorship that’s hovering over so many institutions.
Great job!
N Forster
1 year ago
Well done Julie. Keep up the good work.
Ben M
1 year ago
Very pleased to hear. However the Equality Law is anything but – we now have white heterosexual males not equal before the law. So should one protest against say their children having a trans drag queen in their literacy lesson, what would happen?
Julian Farrows
1 year ago
They literally stopped recognizing every actual single woman and girl, every female person. And they told us that we are now all an identity instead of a sex, a psychology instead of a physiology. The was what female now meant. So that men could say they were women. And they did, hundreds of thousands of them did. There was no single word for actual females. We weren’t allowed one. Our word was reallocated to men. We had to talk about ourselves as people with cervixes, or menstruaters, and we had to agree that biology wasn’t the real difference between the sexes, identity was. One by one, every reference to biological sex was replaced in every law with references to identity, until the law had erased any connection with female biology from pregnancy, childbirth, motherhood. Everything became something that applied to both men and women because it was forbidden to have real references to sex. Stating that only females were women was enough to lose your job, or even be charged with a crime. Failing to agree with a man that he was a woman was enough to be ostracized, censored or threatened with legal action. Men took over women’s sports, institutions, groups. Men represented us in every level of society, calling themselves women. There were no words to distinguish ourselves from these men. Everyone could the female sex were becoming unspeakable people, unspoken of. You weren’t allowed to acknowledge our separate existence from male people. Men committed crimes and society said women did it. You could never escape a man because he could follow you into any public space by identifying as female. People were very, very afraid to tell the truth. Many hundreds of children lost their reproductive organs trying to become the other sex. It was a very dark time.
– Author Unknown
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Ronni Curtis
1 year ago
Well done indeed, Julie. People such as Cllr Healy should be made to state exactly what ‘homophobic and biphobic views in the past’ Julie was supposed to have made. Same with all those disgusting Twitter trolls screaming (sometimes literally it seems) for JK Rowling’s blood. My contempt for the Healy’s of this world knows no bounds.
Christine Hankinson
1 year ago
It’s truly shocking. Keep up the good work
Lindsay Khan
1 year ago
Well done Julie. A great and important victory.
Melissa Martin
1 year ago
It’s that phrase ‘through Stonewall’. Like ‘through Jesus Christ’. All that was missing was the Amen.
Arkadian X
1 year ago
Has this been settled out of court or what?
Anyway, thanks for sharing the news as I had not heard.
Not surprising you hadn’t heard the news. The BBC website did carry an announcement, but you would have had to drill down through England | Local News | Regions | Nottingham to find it.
Veronica Lowe
1 year ago
Let trans people eat trans food, and see how long they last by denying basic biology.
Rod McLaughlin
1 year ago
Congratulations, and good luck for the future
Malcolm Knott
1 year ago
You know what? For the many of the trans-activists this is just fun, as in, ‘Everyone loves a good demo.’ For the rest of us it’s deadly serious.
Is there somewhere we can read the correspondence with the council in full?
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Douglas H
1 year ago
Well done , Jules!
Alan Robinson
1 year ago
Well done Julie
Pete Marc
1 year ago
Cultural Marxists have thrown lesbians under the bus and replaced them with delusional autogynephile men. In time they too will be thrown under the bus, in favor of some other group that can be exploited to undermine Western sanity.
In the short term, the future is not female. The future is mad men pretending to be female.
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Lancastrian Oik
1 year ago
Well done, Ms. Bindel.
Gareth Rees
1 year ago
This is fantastic news. We need to keep bringing these claims and especially some punitive libel and defamation suits against those with the smallest of brains but the largest and loudest of mouths.
Tim Lever
1 year ago
You rock Ms Bindel!
Christopher Barclay
1 year ago
Interesting to see the emphasis NCC place on ‘respected academics’. Clearly the route they intend to go down is to have a few ‘academics’ acting as gatekeepers of accepted speech.
Graham Campbell
1 year ago
Congratulations on your success. It is not just for feminism but for all. When trans activism is defeated and feminism resumes its place as the loudest voice in public discourse, this case will be a useful precedent for anyone silenced by feminists. Free Speech For All Not Just The Few.
We should not forget how deminists shut down debate and discussion of men’s issues for decades.
Fran Martinez
1 year ago
“Respected academics”? By whom I ask.
Jake Dee
1 year ago
So many comments to make, so little comment space, I’ll try to be concise.
If Julie Blindel has been an out and proud lesbian since age 14 (~1976), and has been fighting against the misogynistic patriarchy since then, and is still fighting against misogynistic patriarchy in 2022, is it the same misogynistic patriarchy or a completely different one ?
If it’s still the same old patriarchy, then what happened to all the old rules of the literal old school patriarchs such as Abraham and Jacob ? And of course Moses, who (by tradition) wrote in Deuteronomy 22:5;
The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman’s garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the Lord thy God
Personally I believe that Ms. Blindel’s problems don’t come from the 70’s lesbian feminists failing, but rather from them succeeding.
You bought the ticket, now you take the ride.
Yes. The Red Pill was cancelled all over the Western World. Try talking about female violence in uni. Feminists started all this rubbish to begin with.
Good to see Julie Bindel seeking a legal remedy against a bigoted decision to exclude her and that she seems to have carried the day. Legal remedies against the suppression of free expression should be sought more frequently.
‘Cllr Rosemary Healy in response to a complaint about the cancellation:
“Ms Bindel … has also demonstrated homophobic and biphobic views in the past that we take issue with.”’
Julie Bindel has demonstrated no homophobic or biphobic views whatsoever, and should seek legal redress from Cllr Healy for this flagrant libel.
Cllr Rosemary Healy has posted these sentiments:
“For me to be able to pick up a book and read the carefully considered words of key figures in any country or period of history at will is thrilling.
Creativity can unlock potential talent and promote our shared culture, which brings communities together at a time when so much of life is in isolation much to our detriment. Nottingham has much to celebrate culturally but we must build on this or risk losing it.”
From this one might conclude she is a keen free speech advocate who wishes to “bring communities together”.
However, she has form having been suspended as a Labour Councillor for retweeting a modified Tory poster suggesting Tory plans led to the death camp of Auschwitz. She claimed not to have noticed the destination indicated. So clearly not too hot on detail but high on hypocrisy if you compare her words above with her attitude to Tory’s and Julie Bindel ( a juxtaposition I never thought I would see).
Julie Bindel is certainly not homophobic as anyone with the slightest acquaintances with her writing can observe.
I’m learning very quickly that “believing in your truth” means no truth is actually necessary to the truth.
Just as the torturer O’Brien in 1984 wants Winston to agree to whatever the Party says is the truth at any time so we are being taught that there is no truth but that which is officially endorsed. We all know that a man can’t become a woman by stating he is one or even by undergoing surgery and chemical castration but the dial is being turned to ensure that we accept the official lie, whatever that is. At present the Stonewall official lie is that a man simply has to declare he is a woman but the actual official lie has not progressed that far yet. As far as Ms Healy is concerned Julie Bindel is an official enemy of the people and so must be homophobic despite the ample evidence to the contrary.
In the struggle session model, the dictatorship of the proletariat is infallible. Thus, attempting to defend yourself is an admission of guilt, and a counter-revolutionary act in and of itself.
When a previous article appeared on Unherd not long since where she outlined what had happened with NCC, i expressed the hope that she would do exactly what she’s done.
It’s one victory, but an important one; not least because it sends a vital ‘pushback’ signal against Woke-captured bodies and institutions who seek to silence perfectly legitimate positions on sex, gender and protected spaces for biological women.
I’ll express a further hope; that Julie uses this victory as a springboard for further pushback, and as a beacon for others to do the same.
Hear hear!
“We did not want the use of one of our library buildings for this event, taking place during Pride month, to be seen as implicit support for the views held by the speaker”
The problem with stupid comments like this, is that if the council does not allow events because it would be seen as implicit support for the speaker’s views, then it follows that the views expressed by speakers at events which it does allow can legitimately be seen as endorsed by the council. It can’t have it both ways.
It also means they would have to scrutinise every single speaker (going back to when?) to ensure they were not guilty of wrongthink.
Well said. I am wholeheartedly in support of Trans rights, and have family and friends who are transgender. I also accept that hate speech is something that must not be allowed free reign, especially in public properties. However, the hard fought rights of LGB and T as well as those of all women, and indeed the emancipation of all men and women, cannot be subservient to one section of society exclusively and without contention. When this happens especially within and between a group with shared goals, such as the LGBT community, then it echoes the madness of the far left and their pursuit of ideological purity with no dissent allowed. I congratulate Julie on winning a small but significant battle on behalf of all citizens of this country, to ensure that the freedom of speech and assembly are not “rubber stamped” away without, at the very least, the right to open appeal and discussion. Otherwise, where lies the future of one of our basic freedoms?
I agree but wonder if the “trans” activists have any shared goals with the LGBT community or indeed any other community. They are merely a violent rent-a-mob that happens to follow Labour/snp/swp ideologies. In the 70s the same crowd would join F Troop or the NF. Attracting such supporters should worry Labour/SNP but i expect they are either not bothered or worse quite proud of the glamour they think rubs off from the violence they’ve unleashed.
That’s simply your bias-where is any evidence that such people joined labour,et al? The trouble with all this stuff is that “conservatives” get to join is and bash the LGBT community under the guise of “support”.
My niece declared herself transgender about 18 months ago. She is a young teenager, and more than anything needs protection from the unsavoury individuals behind organisations like Stonewall and above all Mermaids.
Well done Julie! Nottingham City Council define “inclusive” as meaning they exclude anyone who dares to differ from Stonewall.
And please ensure that this report and the details of the case are transmitted to the Local Goverment Association (LGA) the representative organisation of Councils in England.
Excuse me, Julie, for catching up with the news a few weeks late, but how heartening it was to read about the blow you struck for free speech, sanity, and against the hateful and cowardly spirit of censorship that’s hovering over so many institutions.
Great job!
Well done Julie. Keep up the good work.
Very pleased to hear. However the Equality Law is anything but – we now have white heterosexual males not equal before the law. So should one protest against say their children having a trans drag queen in their literacy lesson, what would happen?
– Author Unknown
Well done indeed, Julie. People such as Cllr Healy should be made to state exactly what ‘homophobic and biphobic views in the past’ Julie was supposed to have made. Same with all those disgusting Twitter trolls screaming (sometimes literally it seems) for JK Rowling’s blood. My contempt for the Healy’s of this world knows no bounds.
It’s truly shocking. Keep up the good work
Well done Julie. A great and important victory.
It’s that phrase ‘through Stonewall’. Like ‘through Jesus Christ’. All that was missing was the Amen.
Has this been settled out of court or what?
Anyway, thanks for sharing the news as I had not heard.
Not surprising you hadn’t heard the news. The BBC website did carry an announcement, but you would have had to drill down through England | Local News | Regions | Nottingham to find it.
Let trans people eat trans food, and see how long they last by denying basic biology.
Congratulations, and good luck for the future
You know what? For the many of the trans-activists this is just fun, as in, ‘Everyone loves a good demo.’ For the rest of us it’s deadly serious.
Is there somewhere we can read the correspondence with the council in full?
Well done , Jules!
Well done Julie
Cultural Marxists have thrown lesbians under the bus and replaced them with delusional autogynephile men. In time they too will be thrown under the bus, in favor of some other group that can be exploited to undermine Western sanity.
In the short term, the future is not female. The future is mad men pretending to be female.
Well done, Ms. Bindel.
This is fantastic news. We need to keep bringing these claims and especially some punitive libel and defamation suits against those with the smallest of brains but the largest and loudest of mouths.
You rock Ms Bindel!
Interesting to see the emphasis NCC place on ‘respected academics’. Clearly the route they intend to go down is to have a few ‘academics’ acting as gatekeepers of accepted speech.
Congratulations on your success. It is not just for feminism but for all. When trans activism is defeated and feminism resumes its place as the loudest voice in public discourse, this case will be a useful precedent for anyone silenced by feminists. Free Speech For All Not Just The Few.
We should not forget how deminists shut down debate and discussion of men’s issues for decades.
“Respected academics”? By whom I ask.
So many comments to make, so little comment space, I’ll try to be concise.
If Julie Blindel has been an out and proud lesbian since age 14 (~1976), and has been fighting against the misogynistic patriarchy since then, and is still fighting against misogynistic patriarchy in 2022, is it the same misogynistic patriarchy or a completely different one ?
If it’s still the same old patriarchy, then what happened to all the old rules of the literal old school patriarchs such as Abraham and Jacob ? And of course Moses, who (by tradition) wrote in Deuteronomy 22:5;
Personally I believe that Ms. Blindel’s problems don’t come from the 70’s lesbian feminists failing, but rather from them succeeding.
You bought the ticket, now you take the ride.
What an insightful comment. I love Douglas Wilson’s saying “It’s Christ or chaos.” Obviously chaos comes in many flavors.
Y’know, I really don’t care. Fight it out among yourselves.
I remember feminists shutting down men giving talks and lectures. Don’t expect me to sympathise.
I don’t sympathise either. But these legal precedents can be used against feminists when they return
Interesting observation.
Yes. The Red Pill was cancelled all over the Western World. Try talking about female violence in uni. Feminists started all this rubbish to begin with.
Absolutely spot on. I hope they stretch it out for a good few years before white blokes get blamed for everything again.
Feminists love posing as free speech advocates but they shut down any discussion of men’s issues