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Judy Englander
Judy Englander
1 year ago

“Trans women’s access to women’s spaces isn’t anything new … yet suddenly this has become the burning feminist crisis of our time”. I’ll tell you the real reason why. In the past trans women’s access to our spaces was by consent. It wasn’t forced or imposed. Most trans women were sexually attracted to males yet loved and respected women. Instinctively we perceived no threat.
Now, a very different type of person can overnight declare themselves a ‘woman’, make a mockery of femininity and force themselves into female spaces as a ‘right’, as an act of power and, probably, misogyny. Many remain sexually attracted to women. Although female intuition is a bit of a stereotype, like most stereotypes it’s based on something real. And we intuit something backward and rotten here.

Last edited 1 year ago by Judy Englander
Christine Hankinson
Christine Hankinson
1 year ago
Reply to  Judy Englander

You are so right. Perfectly described.

Christine Thomas
Christine Thomas
1 year ago
Reply to  Judy Englander

Worth considering the traditional useful role agent provocateurs anyone?

Judy Englander
Judy Englander
1 year ago
Reply to  Judy Englander

Just in case this comment doesn’t make any sense: it was originally in reply to another reader’s comment from where the quote was taken. The comment has disappeared.

Richard Craven
Richard Craven
1 year ago
Reply to  Judy Englander

Good comment, except that I think it would probably be a good idea to refer to such people as transvestites rather than transwomen.

Tony Conrad
Tony Conrad
1 year ago
Reply to  Richard Craven

There have always been transvestites but now they are receiving honour from the wokists. They have gone one step further through surgery but it is obvious they are men.

Norman Powers
Norman Powers
1 year ago
Reply to  Judy Englander

And yet you do have women’s spaces. Remember that men aren’t allowed them, otherwise we get taken to court and/or attacked as ‘misogynists’ by your type.
I am lacking in sympathy. Feminists are upset because having campaigned for decades to get special unequal rights and privileges, now men have found a way to hack the system and get those same privileges, making things equal again. So of course suddenly the sky is falling and it’s all about hate blah blah blah.
Who cares? Not me. I’ve watched as gender-based injustice runs rampant for my entire life, always with men as the losers. Watching feminists finally die by their own sword is funny. Welcome to the club, ladies. It’s open to all.

Last edited 1 year ago by Norman Powers
Tony Conrad
Tony Conrad
1 year ago
Reply to  Norman Powers

Some men like the women in their spaces. Thank goodness the women don’t want to be in the men’s spaces.

Tony Conrad
Tony Conrad
1 year ago
Reply to  Judy Englander

I think this will be reversed under Liz Truss but probably re-started under Starmer. What a nightmare. He’ll probably lose the women’s vote once they really know about him. If they vote for him it will be a transgender nightmare. He already doesn’t know what a woman is or he is not risking the transgender vote.

nate kane
nate kane
1 year ago
Reply to  Judy Englander

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Last edited 1 year ago by nate kane
Jim Jam
Jim Jam
1 year ago

Once you go down the road of agressive identity politicking, it’s almost impossible to turn round. The Labour party are reaping what they have sown.

Andrew Horsman
Andrew Horsman
1 year ago

Starmer’s “small s stonewallism” is symptomatic of the broader, decaying, political class which he represents. A weak leader, with little political initiative of his own, he’s advised and supported by ideologues not living in the real world.

That was why, when presented last April with facts (by a former Labour voter; there are lots like him) about the gross harms caused by the lockdown policies that he had repeatedly goaded the government into imposing, he could only respond with the non-sequiturs that he “disagreed” with the facts, that his wife is an NHS worker, and that “the vast majority recognise that the lockdown is necessary”. Let us never, ever forget what he did to people over those two years.

This is a man who, if he thinks at all, he thinks in slogans, painted in bright primary colours. A man with little curiosity about the world around him, a man trapped in a groupthinking bubble of activists and policy advisors, a man who accepts what he’s told at face value or rejects it in its entirety. A man who lacks the moral courage and strength to try and understand and engage with what those with different perspectives actually have to say, and to grapple with complex, emotionally and intellectually demanding problems to which there is no single right answer. A man who is ripe for manipulation by clever little devils in Beijing and Geneva. A man whose mind is made up. A man utterly unfit to fill office to which he aspires.

In his defence, many of his ostensible political opponents, and potential leadership candidates on his own side of the increasingly irrelevant party political divide, are almost just as bad. But it is in Starmer that the cold inauthenticity, the lack of human connection, the ideological capture, and the hubris is the most pronounced and so clearly dominant.

Our politics is crying out for someone to come in and fill the enormous void created by the flight to the extremes by reality-denying ideologues of the market and woke varieties. As we face what could be for many a very painful period of economic hardship, the big question is will this void be filled by an angry, nationalistic, reactionary populist, or by a radical, dissident, tenacious, liberal? After this useless set of plastic leaders get washed away, will we get an Enoch Powell, or a Barbara Castle?

Andy Blake
Andy Blake
1 year ago
Reply to  Andrew Horsman

Both. Both is good.

The progressive ideology of the 19th century was National Liberalism. In the 20th it was treated as reactionary by the forces of illiberal nationalism and international liberalism alike. But the current crises point to it being the only political force that is shaped to fit your void. And, in the persons of Zelenskyy and Meloni (both of them advocates of fundamentally liberal economic models and both of them declared opponents of wokery), is already re-emerging.

Pat Q
Pat Q
1 year ago
Reply to  Andrew Horsman

I’m in the U.S. Do you mind if I cut and paste your comment – changing “Starmer” to “Biden” or “Harris”, of course – into a host of similar comment sections here in the states? I promise to give you attribution.

Jeremy Bray
Jeremy Bray
1 year ago

The problem is that Labour is largely fuelled by envy and spite. Envy of all who are better off, whether as a result of hard work or ingenuity or of the luck of birth and spite against all who fail to tow the currently fashionable line whatever that may be.

The author may have been happy to support envy and spite when the feminist dogma was the prevailing Labour dogma but once a madder dogma has been adopted she complains. Of course the behaviour of Labour towards organisations supporting a traditional conservative approach towards women’s spaces and a sensible approach to competitive sport is disgraceful but Labour’s approach has always been driven by envy and spite it’s just that the author did not recognise it when it didn’t affect her.

John Croteau
John Croteau
1 year ago
Reply to  Jeremy Bray

Well done! It all makes sense now. The modern left opens its mouth and spews envy and hate. It was only a matter of time before they came around to eat their own.

Allison Barrows
Allison Barrows
1 year ago
Reply to  Jeremy Bray

My philosophy has long been beware the ism-ists. They scream burn it all down, destroy our enemies and scream some more when their isms are replaced by shiny new ones. They are not well people.

Richard Craven
Richard Craven
1 year ago

You’re right.

Aaron James
Aaron James
1 year ago

Petard hoisting – it was not the Right which brought you this woke….

And the writer says this trans madness is ‘‘and what is in effect a profoundly misogynist men’s rights movement,”;

No… they hate both sexes equally – I think they hate families most of all, this Political self Eunuchising group do not even like each other. A very odd outlook – you cannot have the sexual organs you wish, so render yours sterile. It is the ultimate Nihilism.

Paul Nathanson
Paul Nathanson
1 year ago
Reply to  Aaron James

Those who call themselves “transgender women” claim to be women. Whether other people agree with them or not about biology, transgender women themselves clearly want desperately to be women and will resort to shocking methods in order to achieve their goal. For them and all other ideologues, including feminist ideologues (as distinct from egalitarian feminists), the end justifies the means.
Some people suspect that their underlying motivation is “misogyny,” but no one can make that speculative claim stick. It’s true that the result of transgender ideology is a big problem for women–and, not incidentally, for society as a whole–but merely claiming that the transwomen are misogynistic does nothing to explain the phenomenon. It does a great deal, however, to sustain the longstanding polarization between women and men.
As for the “cis” supporters of transgender ideology, even their motivation isn’t necessarily reducible to misogyny. I suspect that many or most of them have simply adopted the latest form of identity politics in order to indulge opportunistically in virtue signaling (let alone to gain votes for their party). And the chief strategy of identity (or woke) politics is not to engage in rational debate (a supposedly “patriarchal” form of oppression) but to intimidate and silence opponents.

Samir Iker
Samir Iker
1 year ago
Reply to  Paul Nathanson

“Some people suspect that their underlying motivation is “misogyny,”
That’s what I don’t get. All those feminists who kept claiming there are no biological differences between men and women, equal pay irrespective of performance, inserting women into male only spaces…Who made it oh so easy for nutters who think rapists can be in female prisons or men compete in women swimming…
Were they also misogynists? Or is it only awful when women get to face the consequences of their own actions?

Rose D
Rose D
1 year ago
Reply to  Samir Iker

*for most the underlying motivation is sexual gratification

J D
J D
1 year ago
Reply to  Samir Iker

Feminists think it’s about misogyny because they think absolutely everything is about misogyny. There is no movement so full of self-pitying narcissists as feminism.

It is precisely their insistence on gender neutrality (when it suits them) that has paved the way for the trans movement. I have zero sympathy for them.

Christopher Chantrill
Christopher Chantrill
1 year ago

I recommend that the writer go and read her Carl Schmitt, who wrote, many moons ago, that politics was all about fighting the enemy.
Gotta have an enemy, and wow, has the Left gone to town on that over the last century and a half.
Today the Left’s Little Darlings of yesteryear have been cast aside — hey, remember the workin’ class? — for the latest hottest victims of the patriarchy, or the racists, or the homophobes, or the transphobes, or whatever victims Lefties have conjured up since yesterday.
Really, feminists today should be Tory toffs. Maybe in another ten years.

Tendentious D
Tendentious D
1 year ago

Abso-frickin’-lutely! My sentiments exactly.

They express conservative thought in their condemnation of the thugs within the “trans” activist bunch but fall right back to leftist talking points when it comes to conservatives.

Sorry, dear, you’re “right-wing” now in everything BUT name.

Will they ever learn?

Allison Barrows
Allison Barrows
1 year ago

Alleged comedian Patton Oswald admitted that the only time he’s truly comfortable is when he has an enemy. It’s apparent that this is the standard operating system of those on the left. Can’t imagine how miserable it must be.

Samir Iker
Samir Iker
1 year ago

Feminists won’t learn.
Just look at this piece:
“All of this amounts to an epidemic of violence against women”
Whereas maybe 80% of victims of violence are men, and conversely when a woman needs help, whether from police or passerbys, it’s usually a man who steps in.

Or:
“downward trend is visible in domestic violence prosecutions”
Not for female on male domestic violence, which is half of the total. Difficult to dip below near zero level.

Christine Hankinson
Christine Hankinson
1 year ago

Thank you Joan. It is very disturbing. So many in the Labour Party are turning a blind eye it is unbelievable. How can they think women’s right to defend and protect the very real vulnerabilities of their biological sex is of so little importance? I can no longer vote for them.

Hugh Bryant
Hugh Bryant
1 year ago

Starmer is a weak man whose ambition has completely overwhelmed any small vestige of principle he might once have possessed. His behaviour as DPP and enabling of Corbyn should have been adequate warning.

polidori redux
polidori redux
1 year ago

I would like to make it clear that, despite being a “man”, I am not a fan of the modern Labour Party.

AC Harper
AC Harper
1 year ago

Feminists – now the wrong sort of victims. There’s no longer any political power to be extracted by supporting feminists (or several other, older, victim groups).

Tendentious D
Tendentious D
1 year ago
Reply to  AC Harper

That’s cold…and all the colder for being spot on.

Samir Iker
Samir Iker
1 year ago
Reply to  AC Harper

Soon, there will be far more muslims (and muslim voters) than gays in most western countries.

Want to bet who is the next whining victim group who will soon really have something to complain about?

Last edited 1 year ago by Samir Iker
Peter McLaughlin
Peter McLaughlin
1 year ago
Reply to  Samir Iker

Already in this country there are more muslims than Welsh or Northern Irish people.

Paddy Taylor
Paddy Taylor
1 year ago

Abraham Lincoln once asked an audience how many legs a dog has – if you call its tail a leg.
When the crowd answered “Five”, Lincoln told them, “No, it’s four. Just because you call the tail a leg, does not make it a leg”.
Currently across the West we seem to live in a world where many people believe that calling something by a different name somehow changes reality.
It’s time adults – and especially those who aspire to lead Governments – reminded people that that is not so.

Samuel Gee
Samuel Gee
1 year ago

Don’t worry. Starmer will soon change his mind. There was a point when he couldn’t see any antisemites in the Party even when they were sitting next to him. The suddenly he could see all of them and was shocked about it. I expect that the same will happen here.

Last edited 1 year ago by Samuel Gee
Leanne B
Leanne B
1 year ago

This leader has allowed misogyny to run riot in his party. The last one, antisemitism. Who is voting for these people any more?

Melissa Martin
Melissa Martin
1 year ago

It’s just another deeply misogynistic religion. What’s funny is the Left think they are above such atavistic behaviour. Transubstantiation, dogma, catechisms, heresy. The Magisterium in California. A network of High Priestesses & Hand Maidens. Will the British people be daft enough to elect the Right Reverend Keir Starmer?

Tom Lewis
Tom Lewis
1 year ago

‘what3words, to describe the place the author, and her ilk, are at, (chicken / roost / myopic).

Tom Watson
Tom Watson
1 year ago
Reply to  Tom Lewis

“I never thought leopards would eat MY face!” sobs woman who voted for Leopards Eating People’s Faces party.

Allison Barrows
Allison Barrows
1 year ago

You say Truss actively opposes the redistribution of wealth like it’s a bad thing.

Last edited 1 year ago by Allison Barrows
Steve Murray
Steve Murray
1 year ago

I expect many people will fail to understand that point!

Vici C
Vici C
1 year ago

As it seems both parties are intent in ignoring what their voters (women’s rights/curb immigration), you really have to ask yourself who is pulling the strings else it makes no sense at all

Ibn Sina
Ibn Sina
1 year ago

I don’t know whether it’s about a men’s rights conspiracy or not. What I do know is that in a democracy tiny minority groups should not have such a huge voice.

Last edited 1 year ago by Ibn Sina
Douglas Wallace
Douglas Wallace
1 year ago
Reply to  Ibn Sina

Can you really have a ‘conspiracy’ involving 48% of the population? And if the minority sex want their human rights (such as equality under the law, equal education opportunity), why is that misogynistic, other than that feminists see men having rights as a threat?

David Walker
David Walker
1 year ago

One word for “Sir” Starmer – Rotherham.

Alan Hawkes
Alan Hawkes
1 year ago

It seems to be the nature of the Labour Party that something has to run riot in it. Having largely removed the non-democratic socialism of Corbyn and friends, a new messianic cause was required. Labour just can’t cope with two separate principles meeting head-on. They don’t do compromises.

Laura Kamienski
Laura Kamienski
1 year ago

It’s the same here in the U.S.. Title IX which was hard won is being dismantled by the Biden administration. Anyone even remotely questioning trans ideology is deemed a “right wing, fascist, bigoted zealot.” The “vote blue no matter who” crowd is screaming about voting the republicans out because they hate women. After all they are anti choice, but no one is talking about the fact that Title IX is destroyed. Nor are they talking about the fact that Joe Biden’s historical record is anti-choice or the reality that the democrats have had decades to codify abortion rights into law and haven’t done so. This is not an oversight on their part. The most insidious gaslighting is being played out with virtue signaling and identity politics which not only obscures economic inequality in favor of inclusion but is setting women back decades.

Helen E
Helen E
1 year ago

Because of what Biden has done to Title IX, and what Gov Newsom has done in advancing gender ideology, this NorCal voter will be carefully, selectively voting Republican in November.

M. Jamieson
M. Jamieson
1 year ago

I don’t think Liz Truss is “hard-right”. Love her or hate her or be indifferent, but there are plenty of people to the right of where she stands.

Julian Pellatt
Julian Pellatt
1 year ago

“… Liz Truss, a hard-Right ideologue ….”`

Oh, come on! If you aspire to be taken seriously keep your bigoted views to yourself!

Andy Williams
Andy Williams
1 year ago

Much of this article I totally agree with. The bit early on about Liz Truss shows the author to be bigot abd unfortunately destroys the credibility of what is otherwise a well written piece, Great. Shame

Margaret TC
Margaret TC
1 year ago

The American journalist Lisa Selin Davis speaks of the urgent need for the left to educate itself on the trans issue in this important discussion, which suggests light is beginning to dawn at least in some minds:https://fairforall.cincopa.com/watch/A4HAcLOLOO68!AcDDgx1GyuUE

Rose D
Rose D
1 year ago

Based on the above, I rather doubt she’d vote for Truss if there was an election tomorrow and the only choices were Truss & Starmer.

Jeanie K
Jeanie K
1 year ago

Starmer and his labour party do not care about real issues (they probably don’t even understand them). They exist simply on fermenting jealousy. Hence their rise in the polls caused by them and MSM concentrating on Truss/Kwarteng reducing the 45% tax rate and bankers’ bonus cap.
And the sheeple fall for it again.

Tony Conrad
Tony Conrad
1 year ago

And he is going to win the country? Doesn’t say much for the country. More woke than I thought.

Galvatron Stephens
Galvatron Stephens
1 year ago

Didn’t feminists tell us that womanhood was entirely socially constructed, that one is not made but becomes a woman? Sounds very trans-ideology to me. They can’t spend decades telling us men and women are interchangeable then go back on it once people take them up on thst thesis.

nate kane
nate kane
1 year ago

If you allow a man to be a woman just cause HE feels like it, where will it end. Can I pick my race? Or can people pick their age, what would then also put kids in danger.
Anyone can believe what they want, but that does not make it facts and definitely doesn’t make it right.
Muslims BELIEVE eating pork is wrong, but we still eat pork and sell it.
Being respectful to people is one thing,
But saying a woman is no longer a woman but a Cis woman while a man who lives as a man 24/7 looks like a man 24/7 can be a woman cause he feels like it. It’s twisted and allowing people to appropriate a identity.
Their argument is it’s their truth, but what about our truth. Thier truth is not backed up by facts, science or biology, and they want to oppress the majority for the few it’s Sick and wrong.

Galvatron Stephens
Galvatron Stephens
1 year ago

Because he wants to win an election. Which means plain, boring, uncontroversial politics. Feminist loons are as unhelpful as trans loons.

Also, the thing that feminists did to others is now happening to them.

Last edited 1 year ago by Galvatron Stephens