This sounds like another piece of controlled propaganda masquerading as entertainment, to reinforce the “if only the government had been more comptenent and acted more swiftly to lock down and test, track, and trace everyone, not so many people would have died” story. So that when the next, “inevitable” “pandemic” breaks, the “game changing” treaty (to quote the WHO’s communist leader) that is now being negotiated will kick in, requiring governments and people to do any kind of abhorrent, inhumane things to each other, and transfer even more national resources to large corporations in exchange for ineffective and improperly tested pharmaceutical products, all in the name of a safetyist ideology hostile to individual agency, conscience, and liberal democratic values.
I haven’t seen the show, and not do I want to see it, but I’d be willing to bet that it doesn’t feature small children abandoned to domestic abuse in the grotesque “lockdowns”, and nor does it feature the vaccine-injured, whose grief, pain and suffering continues to be routinely ignored by the captured mainstream media and gaslighting medical professionals alike. I will very happily stand corrected if this in fact not true.
The entire social media, press and TV who supposed to be impartial all have a political agenda now!!! All media is propaganda and steps should be taken to stop this biased approach to brainwashing!!! Democracy should be left down to the people and people alone without media interference!!!
Hugh Bryant
1 year ago
Nevertheless, we all know that a drama explaining Johnson’s behaviour as anything other than unprincipled would not get made. The greatest single economic and cultural problem this country faces is the absolute solidarity of a cultural elite amongst whom the expression of even mildly heterodox opinion guarantees career death.
“solidarity of a cultural elite”. Surely that should be self-styled cultural elite?
Aaron James
1 year ago
”“I personally have no point of view of whether things were done correctly, or incorrectly,” Winterbottom says in the press pack,”
and if he made a WWII documentary in 1947 he would have said – look at all this mess, death and destruction – everyone was just blowing stuff up and shooting things and people up, and I am not going to say if one side was right or not – It all just sort of happened, I am just here to show it, or what I wish to show of it (ie not the dissenters and all the new facts now available)
It was a plandemic to destroy the West – I am not saying the release of the lab made virus was intentional, but the the 100% synchronized global response was. This was to create an authoritarian system. The engineered coming depression, which the response and the current War are to create – they will finally allow true authoritarianism to be loosened on the world. This was a war against us, the citizens, and we lost.
Or so all the evidence shows – as the Insanity of the Lockdowns, money printing, debt creation caused inflation, the vaccines and mandates, global economy derailed all for Nothing – all for a treatable flu and then a small, regional, war promoted to a small WWIII to break the world economy further – all of that could not possibly just be bad decision making.
You cannot look at the grand Pyramids at Giza and say – that just happened because tens of thousands of people randomly began pushing stone blocks around – for no reason.
My wealth has been devoured – my pension wrecked, my money devalued – this was the wealthiest in the world harvesting the savings and wealth of the workers. Their wealth doubled.
“This was a war against us, the citizens, and we lost.”
Precisely, well said!
Vae Victis! Or as the Bible so prosaically put it, there will be much “Weeping and gnashing of teeth”, this winter.
Are you saying that the problems coming this winter are a result of mishandling of Covid? How? Do you think that the situation in Ukraine has had any influence?
Pray tell. Who are “they”? Are we to believe the Chinese, the Russians, the WHO, some of our own Western governments, particularly Boris, were in cahoots? A very interesting conspiracy theory, unless you can provide names and facts. Short-terminism and naïveté more likely.
re: “a small regional war” promoted to WWIII.
1-Who is “promoting WWIII”?
2-Any war involving Russia and one of its recently freed neighbours can’t be considered “a small regional war.”
Hyperbole.
J Bryant
1 year ago
Any TV program that presents an historical event without injecting any point of view is, unavoidably, reportage in the form of a documentary. It sounds, however, like the creators of This England have tried to fairly present the facts, injected some of their own opinions, but not in a heavy-handed way, and left plenty of room for viewers to draw their own conclusions. That seems fair to me. I’m in the US and I don’t know if or when this series will be available here, but I’d like to watch it.
Society will make its mind up about how the covid pandemic was handled over several decades. The result will be a sort of averaging of books, movies, tv shows and plays. US movie makers were still making movies about Vietnam forty years after the event when many of the participants were dead and only military historians still cared.
“It sounds, however, like the creators of This England have tried to fairly present the facts, injected some of their own opinions, but not in a heavy-handed way, and left plenty of room for viewers to draw their own conclusions.” Classic statement of modern times. You haven’t seen it but you understand certain aspects of it from reading, surely not just this one, an article.
I was going to avoid it but might give it a go after reading this, though I don’t hold a lot of hope for genuine balance.
It is interesting that the author makes explicit reference to it as an important part of the historical record, just as the makers of these propaganda pieces constantly tell us they’re only fiction and everybody knows that.
The Crown is disgracefully partisan, denigrating every Tory PM, culminating in the Thatcher episode which plays out to some appalling lefty anthem.
It is also a calculated hit job on Charles. I think the episodes relating to Dianna are still to come (I gave up taking any notice after Thatcher).
What fortuitous timing.
Gordon Arta
1 year ago
‘How bewilderingly fast everything happened’. Yes it did. And how even more ‘bewilderingly’ everybody with an opinion, and usually b all else, interpreted what was happening in totally different ways. Yet ‘tens of thousands people died who might have lived if things had been done differently.’ Really? It’s equally true that tens of thousands more might have died if things had been done differently. Pre-pandemic planning was nothing to do with Johnson; look up Jeremy Hunt and PHE. PPE procurement had to be a short -tracked shotgun approach, because global demand far outstripped supply. The simple fact is that every government, and every government critic, got it wrong because there was and is no ‘right’. Johnson’s a fashionable target, because it’s safe and easy to take pot shots at him. Much more difficult is to set out what we should be doing now to prepare for the next one. And that includes undoing the damage that the media’s sowing cynicism and distrust is now doing.
polidori redux
1 year ago
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MI6 UK
1 year ago
Kenneth Branagh should have called “This England” My Londongrad and had Russian puppets playing Larry the Cat and Dilyn The Dog and of course emulating the puppet master Carrie. Why? First ask yourself why hasn’t MI5 thoroughly investigated Russian interference in British politics? Why should anyone believe Johnson put his country before himself or believe his anti-Russian rhetoric? In 2016 when campaigning for Brexit he accused the EU of provoking Russia’s attacks on Ukraine. Indeed, Johnson/Cummings delivered Brexit beyond Putin’s wildest dreams. Combine Brexit with Trump’s divisiveness and no wonder Putin concluded the USA/EU/UK/NATO club was a crippled anachronism. There is some curious fact based research published on the web by Bill Fairclough (ex-spook codename JJ and author of The Burlington Files autobiographical espionage series) about Boris Johnson et al called Britain’s Dismal Dossier on Russian Political Infiltration. He puts forward hard evidence to support the facts that many past British Prime Ministers (and one US President) have been compromised by Russian intelligence usually prior to becoming political bigwigs. Dozens of other Tory Party supporters including Cummings, MPs et al with Russian leanings are named in the article. Any of them, Trump, Johnson and Cummings included, could have been unwittingly manipulated. After all, flattery is a narcissist’s best friend. In fact, Kenneth Branagh could have made hay while the sun shines with this research. Google TheBurlingtonFiles and in the News Section select the article for July 21, 2021. You might also want to read Bill Fairclough’s biographical novel Beyond Enkription – it’s a must read for espionage cognoscente.
So Johnson is compromised and a Russian lackey, whilst simultaneously running the government that has been most hostile to Russia and given the Ukrainians the most assistance than anybody bar the States?
This sounds like another piece of controlled propaganda masquerading as entertainment, to reinforce the “if only the government had been more comptenent and acted more swiftly to lock down and test, track, and trace everyone, not so many people would have died” story. So that when the next, “inevitable” “pandemic” breaks, the “game changing” treaty (to quote the WHO’s communist leader) that is now being negotiated will kick in, requiring governments and people to do any kind of abhorrent, inhumane things to each other, and transfer even more national resources to large corporations in exchange for ineffective and improperly tested pharmaceutical products, all in the name of a safetyist ideology hostile to individual agency, conscience, and liberal democratic values.
I haven’t seen the show, and not do I want to see it, but I’d be willing to bet that it doesn’t feature small children abandoned to domestic abuse in the grotesque “lockdowns”, and nor does it feature the vaccine-injured, whose grief, pain and suffering continues to be routinely ignored by the captured mainstream media and gaslighting medical professionals alike. I will very happily stand corrected if this in fact not true.
The entire social media, press and TV who supposed to be impartial all have a political agenda now!!! All media is propaganda and steps should be taken to stop this biased approach to brainwashing!!! Democracy should be left down to the people and people alone without media interference!!!
Nevertheless, we all know that a drama explaining Johnson’s behaviour as anything other than unprincipled would not get made. The greatest single economic and cultural problem this country faces is the absolute solidarity of a cultural elite amongst whom the expression of even mildly heterodox opinion guarantees career death.
“solidarity of a cultural elite”. Surely that should be self-styled cultural elite?
”“I personally have no point of view of whether things were done correctly, or incorrectly,” Winterbottom says in the press pack,”
and if he made a WWII documentary in 1947 he would have said – look at all this mess, death and destruction – everyone was just blowing stuff up and shooting things and people up, and I am not going to say if one side was right or not – It all just sort of happened, I am just here to show it, or what I wish to show of it (ie not the dissenters and all the new facts now available)
It was a plandemic to destroy the West – I am not saying the release of the lab made virus was intentional, but the the 100% synchronized global response was. This was to create an authoritarian system. The engineered coming depression, which the response and the current War are to create – they will finally allow true authoritarianism to be loosened on the world. This was a war against us, the citizens, and we lost.
Or so all the evidence shows – as the Insanity of the Lockdowns, money printing, debt creation caused inflation, the vaccines and mandates, global economy derailed all for Nothing – all for a treatable flu and then a small, regional, war promoted to a small WWIII to break the world economy further – all of that could not possibly just be bad decision making.
You cannot look at the grand Pyramids at Giza and say – that just happened because tens of thousands of people randomly began pushing stone blocks around – for no reason.
My wealth has been devoured – my pension wrecked, my money devalued – this was the wealthiest in the world harvesting the savings and wealth of the workers. Their wealth doubled.
“This was a war against us, the citizens, and we lost.”
Precisely, well said!
Vae Victis! Or as the Bible so prosaically put it, there will be much “Weeping and gnashing of teeth”, this winter.
Are you saying that the problems coming this winter are a result of mishandling of Covid? How? Do you think that the situation in Ukraine has had any influence?
Pray tell. Who are “they”? Are we to believe the Chinese, the Russians, the WHO, some of our own Western governments, particularly Boris, were in cahoots? A very interesting conspiracy theory, unless you can provide names and facts. Short-terminism and naïveté more likely.
re: “a small regional war” promoted to WWIII.
1-Who is “promoting WWIII”?
2-Any war involving Russia and one of its recently freed neighbours can’t be considered “a small regional war.”
Hyperbole.
Any TV program that presents an historical event without injecting any point of view is, unavoidably, reportage in the form of a documentary. It sounds, however, like the creators of This England have tried to fairly present the facts, injected some of their own opinions, but not in a heavy-handed way, and left plenty of room for viewers to draw their own conclusions. That seems fair to me. I’m in the US and I don’t know if or when this series will be available here, but I’d like to watch it.
Society will make its mind up about how the covid pandemic was handled over several decades. The result will be a sort of averaging of books, movies, tv shows and plays. US movie makers were still making movies about Vietnam forty years after the event when many of the participants were dead and only military historians still cared.
“It sounds, however, like the creators of This England have tried to fairly present the facts, injected some of their own opinions, but not in a heavy-handed way, and left plenty of room for viewers to draw their own conclusions.”
Classic statement of modern times. You haven’t seen it but you understand certain aspects of it from reading, surely not just this one, an article.
I was going to avoid it but might give it a go after reading this, though I don’t hold a lot of hope for genuine balance.
It is interesting that the author makes explicit reference to it as an important part of the historical record, just as the makers of these propaganda pieces constantly tell us they’re only fiction and everybody knows that.
The Crown is disgracefully partisan, denigrating every Tory PM, culminating in the Thatcher episode which plays out to some appalling lefty anthem.
It is also a calculated hit job on Charles. I think the episodes relating to Dianna are still to come (I gave up taking any notice after Thatcher).
What fortuitous timing.
‘How bewilderingly fast everything happened’. Yes it did. And how even more ‘bewilderingly’ everybody with an opinion, and usually b all else, interpreted what was happening in totally different ways. Yet ‘tens of thousands people died who might have lived if things had been done differently.’ Really? It’s equally true that tens of thousands more might have died if things had been done differently. Pre-pandemic planning was nothing to do with Johnson; look up Jeremy Hunt and PHE. PPE procurement had to be a short -tracked shotgun approach, because global demand far outstripped supply. The simple fact is that every government, and every government critic, got it wrong because there was and is no ‘right’. Johnson’s a fashionable target, because it’s safe and easy to take pot shots at him. Much more difficult is to set out what we should be doing now to prepare for the next one. And that includes undoing the damage that the media’s sowing cynicism and distrust is now doing.
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Kenneth Branagh should have called “This England” My Londongrad and had Russian puppets playing Larry the Cat and Dilyn The Dog and of course emulating the puppet master Carrie. Why?
First ask yourself why hasn’t MI5 thoroughly investigated Russian interference in British politics? Why should anyone believe Johnson put his country before himself or believe his anti-Russian rhetoric? In 2016 when campaigning for Brexit he accused the EU of provoking Russia’s attacks on Ukraine. Indeed, Johnson/Cummings delivered Brexit beyond Putin’s wildest dreams. Combine Brexit with Trump’s divisiveness and no wonder Putin concluded the USA/EU/UK/NATO club was a crippled anachronism.
There is some curious fact based research published on the web by Bill Fairclough (ex-spook codename JJ and author of The Burlington Files autobiographical espionage series) about Boris Johnson et al called Britain’s Dismal Dossier on Russian Political Infiltration. He puts forward hard evidence to support the facts that many past British Prime Ministers (and one US President) have been compromised by Russian intelligence usually prior to becoming political bigwigs. Dozens of other Tory Party supporters including Cummings, MPs et al with Russian leanings are named in the article. Any of them, Trump, Johnson and Cummings included, could have been unwittingly manipulated. After all, flattery is a narcissist’s best friend.
In fact, Kenneth Branagh could have made hay while the sun shines with this research. Google TheBurlingtonFiles and in the News Section select the article for July 21, 2021. You might also want to read Bill Fairclough’s biographical novel Beyond Enkription – it’s a must read for espionage cognoscente.
So Johnson is compromised and a Russian lackey, whilst simultaneously running the government that has been most hostile to Russia and given the Ukrainians the most assistance than anybody bar the States?