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Jim Jam
Jim Jam
1 year ago

Pretty pathetic stuff, though I actually welcome the development. For of all the things that fall prey to the censorship of the ‘social justice’ mob, art is the field that gains the most strength from being subversive. Sanitised, authority approved versions of expression are (and most definitely should be) considered deeply uncool. As such, with each stultifying move to shift works of to art align with the sensibilities of unhinged leftists, will become greater and greater incentive for artists to kick back against it and produce works in active opposition to the censorship.

Woke will soon have had its day when it inevitably dawns on the next generation that to follow its dictats is to unquestionably side with dull, bootlicking artists, teachers, parents, HR managers, and all the other tedious morons that currently enjoy the unearned power to tell everyone else what’s allowed and what isn’t.

Last edited 1 year ago by Jim Jam
Julian Farrows
Julian Farrows
1 year ago
Reply to  Jim Jam

I hope so. Unfortunately, we are living in an age where the most easily offended are afforded the highest levels of respect.

Michael Keating
Michael Keating
1 year ago
Reply to  Julian Farrows

Indeed…with Donald J. Trump being exhibit numero uno. The heart of a viper and the skin of a Kleenex.

Bill Wainwright
Bill Wainwright
1 year ago

TDS is a painful condition. I believe there’s a suppository that might help.

cheryl smith
cheryl smith
1 year ago

It’s entertaining that well thought out comments, intelligent comments are posted by conservatives. Insulting ones are posted by liberals. You are your own worst enemy. You accomplish absolutely nothing.

michael harris
michael harris
1 year ago
Reply to  cheryl smith

Though I disagree completely with Keating it was a damn witty insult.

Ian Stewart
Ian Stewart
1 year ago
Reply to  Jim Jam

Yup, woke is ‘the man’, the establishment, the elite, the masters – punk would have stuck this language nonsense in the bin.

Penny Adrian
Penny Adrian
1 year ago

Beyonce is a joke who no one will care about in 20 years. She is a creation of her husband/producer Jay Zee, who will probably trade her in for a young starlet once Bey’s light has faded.
Also, I wouldn’t call either Beyonce or Lizzo “artists”.
The only thing either of these women care about is money, so of course they’ll change a song lyric if they think it might affect their bottom line.
Cowardice & greed is at the ugly heart of “cancel culture” and is the only engine that drives it.
Beyonce is not a “feminist” and she doesn’t give a darn about disabled people (most of whom don’t give a darn about her using the word “spaz”). Beyonce cares about the same thing all the “woke” celebrities care about: money, power, and fame.

Billy Bob
Billy Bob
1 year ago
Reply to  Penny Adrian

In fairness she was rich and famous long before Jay Zed turned up

Robb Maclean
Robb Maclean
1 year ago
Reply to  Billy Bob

No her father is/was unusually well placed to rocket assist her early career.

Richard Craven
Richard Craven
1 year ago
Reply to  Penny Adrian

“She is a creation of her husband/producer Jay Zee”
Jay Zed if you please Penny. This is England.

William Adams
William Adams
1 year ago
Reply to  Richard Craven

Is it Z as in Russian army insignia?

Richard Craven
Richard Craven
1 year ago
Reply to  William Adams

I rather think it may be. But Zed, William. Not Zee. Zed.

Nicky Samengo-Turner
Nicky Samengo-Turner
1 year ago
Reply to  Penny Adrian

.. but so devastatingly gorgeous….

cheryl smith
cheryl smith
1 year ago
Reply to  Penny Adrian

Who cares about her but, I dunno know, 16 year old girls?

R Wright
R Wright
1 year ago

Tolkein was right. America and its consequences have been a disaster for British culture.

Kirsten Walstedt
Kirsten Walstedt
1 year ago
Reply to  R Wright

They have, and all of us who love the UK keep wishing you would stop adopting it. Someone has to hold the line. Resist us, please!

Steve Murray
Steve Murray
1 year ago

Great comment! Some of us see what the US is about, respect the good bits and deplore the rest, but why we import so much is down to the lack of confidence by mainstream broadcasters who don’t speak for the British public as a whole. There is resistance, you just may not see it! But keep up the good work in terms of freedom and positivity, we can all do with more of that.

Robb Maclean
Robb Maclean
1 year ago
Reply to  Steve Murray

Please may have your 1st Amendment?

Margaret F
Margaret F
1 year ago
Reply to  Robb Maclean

The 1st only works if you have the 2nd to back it up. We call the 2nd a right but actually it is an obligation. Freedom isn’t free.

Joyce Brette
Joyce Brette
1 year ago

Well said

Bronwen Saunders
Bronwen Saunders
1 year ago

The issue is not that women’s contributions to culture are less valuable, but that women are generally more obliging. That’s why trans men (ie women) do not cause much of a problem, being happy to get on with their lives in their new identity, whereas trans women (ie men) are often over-assertive and confrontational.

Roger Inkpen
Roger Inkpen
1 year ago

trans men (ie women)” thanks for the reminder. I’m getting old and have trouble remembering which is which! It would be easier if they could be described as male women or female men.

Joyce Brette
Joyce Brette
1 year ago
Reply to  Roger Inkpen

Males are males and females are females, it doesn’t matter what these deluded people call themselves or how much they have gone under the knife they will always remain the gender ie biological sex that they were born into. Nobody can change their chromosomes.

Bronwen Saunders
Bronwen Saunders
1 year ago

This drive to sanitize language is robbing us of one of our primary sources of humor. Many years ago, when a fellow student (a gay American) asked my (British) brother how he had spent his summer vacation, the answer he got – “flogging fags” – caused no inconsiderable alarm, which very soon gave way to mirth.

Lindsay S
Lindsay S
1 year ago

Absolutely! I think all words should be put back on the table! Context is key!
Plus there are times that humans need to vent and a stream of verbal hate is surely preferable to physical violence fuelled by hate and anger.

Gordon Black
Gordon Black
1 year ago

Yes, I’ve now had years of mischievous humour from ambiguous use of my name.

Aphrodite Rises
Aphrodite Rises
1 year ago

I remember being in the US and going to a party when I was 19. There was a little trouble. A man asked me afterwards if anything was damaged. I replied that a few pot-plants had been smashed but that was all. He looked at me incredulously saying ‘They have pot plants.’ Mystified by his response, I affirmed my statement. It wasn’t until much later I understood the nature of the miscommunication.

Lindsay S
Lindsay S
1 year ago

I’m not sure you can argue that the word has a different cultural meaning for black people. Really it’s the same meaning, the only difference is that they’re ignorant of it. Although I suppose when you yourself gets to use a word that is considered the most offensive of offensives because it’s different when you say it then it stands to reason to see how special they are in this area (in this sentence special can be used in two ways, the original way which they shall like because it puts them on a pedestal and the new way which is similar but strongly refers to their needs).

Rose Pearce
Rose Pearce
1 year ago

I think you’re being wilfully obtuse here. While I don’t necessarily agree with artists changing lyrics to be PC (unless for a radio edit) it’s a false equivalence to compare this use of ‘spaz’ with the British vs US use of ‘fag’. The latter are two entirely different words that just happen to be spelt the same. The definition you give above for the ‘AAVE’ usage of ‘spaz’ (i.e. going crazy) clearly derives from ‘spastic’ which used to be a medical term but is now considered a slur for disabled people.

William Adams
William Adams
1 year ago
Reply to  Rose Pearce

The word ‘spastic’ fell into disrepute in the mid-60’s when, for a mercifully brief period, a dance called that did the rounds. It comprised jerky, exaggerated movements and was roundly condemned for its cruel tastelessness.

Andrew D
Andrew D
1 year ago
Reply to  William Adams

Ian Dury’s ‘spasticus autisticus’ no doubt needs re-recording. Just about every word will have to be cut

Ian Stewart
Ian Stewart
1 year ago
Reply to  William Adams

And widely laughed at in the USA when Trump emulated it to impersonate a disabled journalist.

Ormond Otvos
Ormond Otvos
1 year ago
Reply to  William Adams

Trump made ableism more popular…

Morgan Watkins
Morgan Watkins
1 year ago

Where will ‘they’ draw the line here? Perhaps there will be an evaluation of her husband’s lyrical content over the past few decades…? There seems to be a fair amount of celebration around violence, rampant misogyny and the blood stained narcotics trade in there! Tee hee hee

Kirsten Walstedt
Kirsten Walstedt
1 year ago

Since I don’t enjoy the music of anyone mentioned in this article, my comment will have to be about the principle. On the principle I agree with you completely, and I have no interest at all in Apologetic Art in any form; music, painting, theater, literature, cinema, etc. Once I have seen an individual or an institution give in to identity politics, I scratch them off my list as tainted and compromised.
When the American Library Association, awarders of the Caldecott and Newberry Awards, removed Laura Ingalls Wilder’s name from the award that was created in her honor, I decided I no longer trusted their authority on excellence in children’s literature. Any books they recommended since then are suspect as far as I am concerned.
Other institutions like Princeton, Yale, and Harvard have also discredited their own academic integrity with their capture by the woke brigade.
Music, books, shows, movies, comic acts that are edited after the fact to appease critics have betrayed themselves and rendered their artistic value suspect.
There needs to be more underground art now than there ever has been.
Ps. I had never heard that the word ‘spaz’ came from AAVE. Is there a citation for that? We talked about ‘spazzing out’ when I was in fifth grade in 1980, and I had no idea where it came from. I also remember that Kim Carnes sang in 1981 (in Bette Davis Eyes), “All the guys think she’s a spaz.”

Steve Murray
Steve Murray
1 year ago

Your comments are so refreshing! (Apologies for replying to another one, but it’s just like breathing in pure mountain air.)
That’s exactly what we need. People to stand up and have the confidence to say NO, we simply won’t accept those received opinions, because we have our own; formed from life experience and the ability to think through the consequences of acquiescence.

Kat L
Kat L
1 year ago

none of those incidents written about so fawningly here were admirable and just demonstrates that our culture started the downward spiral in the 60’s. i’m enjoying my popcorn as they start to feast on their own.

harry storm
harry storm
1 year ago
Reply to  Kat L

Sorry, Zappa’s intervention was not only admirable but prescient as well.

Nicky Samengo-Turner
Nicky Samengo-Turner
1 year ago
Reply to  harry storm

I greatly enjoyed Frank Zappa when I met him over a cup of tea at Twinings opposite the Royal Courts of Justice during a legal battle he was having over obscenity: a most erudite, actually modest and interesting fellow….

Richard Craven
Richard Craven
1 year ago

Did he complain that his balls felt like a pair of maracas?

Kat L
Kat L
1 year ago
Reply to  harry storm

prescient… how exactly? the culture now basically celebrates degeneracy, vulgarity and violence. if you believe he contributed to the betterment of it …what can i say. he did his part to make society ugly.

Frank McCusker
Frank McCusker
1 year ago
Reply to  Kat L

Downward spiral from 60s? 
Depends how you look at it. 70s and early 80s were pop-culturally vibrant, with nary a hint of PC vapours anywhere. 
This is all very tame stuff. If you want lyrics to trouble the thought police, Google these songs from the 1970s to give you an idea:
Stiff Little Fingers: White Noise
Ian Dury: Plaistow Patricia
Frank Zappa: Bobby Brown goes down
Lou Reed: Street Hassle
The Fall: The Classical
Beyoncé and the modern lot are dull-witted bourgeois nonentities compared to the edgy troublemakers I grew up listening to in the 70s and early 80s.

Julian Farrows
Julian Farrows
1 year ago
Reply to  Frank McCusker

Wholly agree. I’m currently watching a docu-series on music from the early 1970s – a time before it all became sadly commercialized.

polidori redux
polidori redux
1 year ago
Reply to  Frank McCusker

You have omitted the divine Kate.
Doubtless God could have created a more wonderful creature, but doubtless god never did.

Kirsten Walstedt
Kirsten Walstedt
1 year ago
Reply to  Frank McCusker

Agreed!

Kat L
Kat L
1 year ago
Reply to  Frank McCusker

putting warning labels on albums to warn parents against obscene content is not censorship. i grew up in the 70’s and was a huge fan of a lot of the music at the time at least up to 83: there was a lot of it that wasn’t vulgar and explicit but later it became so. they were just trying to put on the brakes. after having children i see the benefit of it now.

Last edited 1 year ago by Kat L
Katharine Eyre
Katharine Eyre
1 year ago

What Beyoncé has just demonstrated is that she is not an artist (as I have previously thought – even though I don’t much like her music) but a mere supplier of music who thinks that the customer always knows best.

Lindsay S
Lindsay S
1 year ago
Reply to  Katharine Eyre

I think Beyoncé’ dilemma is along the lines of what is worse? Being ignorant or a hypocrite? A high moral standing is difficult to uphold for mere humans as we’re fallible, this realisation could be dawning on the mouthpieces of this movement called woke.

Kirsten Walstedt
Kirsten Walstedt
1 year ago
Reply to  Katharine Eyre

I think she is largely the ultimate product of hype, rather like Madonna before her.

David Pogge
David Pogge
1 year ago

We need to care a little less about hurting people’s feelings and care a little more about our rights being curtailed by anyone who can find any reason – no matter how tortured – for being offended. Offense is in the eye of the beholder and is therefore a problem for the beholder, not for the offender.

polidori redux
polidori redux
1 year ago

I have never (knowingly) listened to Beyoncé’s music.
Am I missing anything?

Warren Trees
Warren Trees
1 year ago
Reply to  polidori redux

Apparently, we are the only two who have not. I can’t think of a more tortuous thing to do, outside of actually being tortured in a gulag, for example, than to expose my ears to this utterly offensive and degrading noise.

William Adams
William Adams
1 year ago
Reply to  Warren Trees

Not so. I can’t recall having had the dubious pleasure of being subjected to her noise, either.

Guy Aston
Guy Aston
1 year ago
Reply to  Warren Trees

You describe it so well Warren; are you sure you haven’t heard it?

Joyce Brette
Joyce Brette
1 year ago
Reply to  Warren Trees

Make that 3.

Kirsten Walstedt
Kirsten Walstedt
1 year ago
Reply to  polidori redux

You have been spared

Geraldine Kelley
Geraldine Kelley
1 year ago

Why does anyone even think about a talentless person who appears in porn videos under the heading of “music’?

Steve Murray
Steve Murray
1 year ago

Some may agree with that, but there’s no need to shout.

Last edited 1 year ago by Steve Murray
Geraldine Kelley
Geraldine Kelley
1 year ago
Reply to  Steve Murray

I need bold print for my macular degeneration-sorry!

Geraldine Kelley
Geraldine Kelley
1 year ago

I need bold print for my macular degeneration -sorry!

Cleo Sauldog
Cleo Sauldog
1 year ago

There are browser settings and plugins to help with this.

Steve Elliott
Steve Elliott
1 year ago

Some years ago an American politician used the word Ni**ardly meaning ungenerous. I think he was hounded out of office. I’ve pre-censored that word, by the way.

Linda Hutchinson
Linda Hutchinson
1 year ago
Reply to  Steve Elliott

That’s really strange, they are two completely unrelated words on fron Latin meaning “black” the other, according to my Oxford dictionary, is probably Old Norse meaning “stingy” – how can you confuse the two words?

William Adams
William Adams
1 year ago

Don’t underestimate the stunning ignorance of the outraged woke warriors.

William Adams
William Adams
1 year ago
Reply to  Steve Elliott

Allow me to fill in the gaps: gg

Steve Elliott
Steve Elliott
1 year ago
Reply to  Steve Elliott
Andrew D
Andrew D
1 year ago
Reply to  Steve Elliott

What, niggardly?

Jimminy Timminy
Jimminy Timminy
1 year ago

Here in Ireland we used ‘spastic’ or ‘spa’ as a playground insult when I was growing up in the 80s and 90s, but it fell by the wayside somewhere in my teens, around the same time I stopped using ‘gay’ as a pejorative term. I was surprised to discover the use of ‘spaz’ by adults when I started training in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and was introduced to the concept of the spazzy white belt (admittedly a term imported from America, and not used much over here). I absolutely don’t buy the AAVE excuse. Use of the term is by no means exclusive to black people, and – more importantly – if you’re not aware of the meaning of the words you say then that’s your own fault. All the same, while I don’t really approve of the use of spaz, I can’t get on board with this mock outrage from Australia and I’m even more shocked at the spineless response from the musicians and labels who changed the lyrics. I don’t imagine that they were ignorant to the origins of ‘spaz’ so if they thought it was alright to release in the first place then they shouldn’t let a bit of pushback change their minds. As the author says, it sets a dangerous precedent and the people who will suffer are the non-millionaire artists who can’t absorb a cancellation attempt in the same way as Lizzo or Beyonce can.

Christopher Barclay
Christopher Barclay
1 year ago

The PC police are prepared to decide what is the meaning of words in other languages too. The English FA decided that they knew better than a Uruguayan (Edinson Cavani) what the word ‘negrito’ meant in Uruguayan Spanish.

Lord Rochester
Lord Rochester
1 year ago

Smack My b***h Up is by The Prodigy, and so British. Sorry to nitpick.

John K
John K
1 year ago

Context and timing are important with words that are acceptable, even normal, in one era but become taboo in another (and vice versa).
In 1981 Ian Dury released a song entitled Spasticus Autisticus as a protest at what he considered the patronising nature of the “International Year of Disabled Persons”.
And The Spastics Society only changed its name to Scope in the 1990s.
But there is often a double standard at play in these controversies, as others have noted.
The power is at least for now with the professionally outraged and the bullying trans lobby, but Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

Kirsten Walstedt
Kirsten Walstedt
1 year ago

Also noting that disability activists find the following words unsupportable and wish us to cease using them; crazy, dumb, lame, blind/deaf in a metaphorical sense, moron, lunatic, loony, idiot (and likely more.) I can’t even imagine writers or lyricists eliminating ‘crazy’ from their repertoire. It would knock out a lot of songs!

Last edited 1 year ago by Kirsten Walstedt
Roger Inkpen
Roger Inkpen
1 year ago

Time for Queen Bey to re-record Crazy in Love?

Warren Trees
Warren Trees
1 year ago

When more than 2 people complain to a crayon manufacturer about using the Spanish word for black on a crayon, we have reached the Mendoza line.

JP Martin
JP Martin
1 year ago

I’m reminded of the PhD student whose research established that Beyoncé fans had, on average, lower IQs. S/he was onto something!

Alan Girling
Alan Girling
1 year ago

I got a short story of mine published about 15 years ago called, ‘Spazzes, Gimps and Fatsos’. That’s three armies that might come after me, I suppose.

Last edited 1 year ago by Alan Girling
Darwin K Godwin
Darwin K Godwin
1 year ago

Renaissance? I think her genre is closer to neo-cabaret grindhouse.

Ballantrae
Ballantrae
1 year ago

Get a life, Kat.

Jane Eyre
Jane Eyre
1 year ago

Probably going to get some abuse for this but I believe the origins of the word in both American and British English are the same and so yes it is offensive in all English. I’m not sure what you mean when you say “unique cultural context”. Just because you’re not aware of the origins doesn’t give you a free pass.

There are other problems with this album, like Beyonce’s prolific sampling. She’s done nothing illegal, but morally it seems questionable to sample so much without acknowledgement.

Rose Pearce
Rose Pearce
1 year ago

If you want to be offended by song lyrics though, try Metallica’s So What, or Avenged Sevenfold’s A Little Piece of Heaven. Words in songs are mostly just words.

cheryl smith
cheryl smith
1 year ago

Spazzing out means to lack control. Nothing more, nothing less. This whole article is a waste and no, I couldn’t read all of it.

N T
N T
1 year ago

No comment on the text, but that photo is amazing.

David Bell
David Bell
1 year ago
Reply to  N T

Pray tell why you are amazed by it.

Emma Curran
Emma Curran
1 year ago

The ‘non American’ English language has been slowly colonised by American English for decades.

I don’t think it’s unreasonable that the line is drawn here. It’s a horrible word.

Lindsay S
Lindsay S
1 year ago
Reply to  Emma Curran

“The ‘non American’ English Language” don’t you mean The English Language?

harry storm
harry storm
1 year ago
Reply to  Lindsay S

Yes, Ms. Higgins

Lindsay S
Lindsay S
1 year ago
Reply to  Emma Curran

I also don’t believe that “Spaz” is an Americanism. Doctors coin terms for medical use (in this case Spastic) and children steal it and modify it for use in the playground (Spaz, Spaka etc). They (children) have done the same with most if not all medical terms for people with mental and physical disabilities for decades and the medical establishment keep having to come up with new terms because of this. Ultimately, children are (unsurprisingly) the masters of creative cruelty and not giving a f***.

Derek Smith
Derek Smith
1 year ago
Reply to  Lindsay S

Yes. Back in the early 80s, I remember when Blue Peter introduced a man with cerebral palsy called Joey Deacon to children, to educate them about the condition and how people cope with it.

Within a week or so at my primary school, ‘Joey’ was a derogatory term.

Last edited 1 year ago by Derek Smith
Lindsay S
Lindsay S
1 year ago
Reply to  Derek Smith

Kids are awesome! They can turn anything into an insult. Unfortunately it does mean that any and every word for physical and mental illness will be utilised in this endeavour and the PC brigade are waging a futile war. All power to the children, I say!

Ian Stewart
Ian Stewart
1 year ago
Reply to  Derek Smith

Jeez we used to make up playground jokes about the famines in Africa; American astronauts being blown up in space; suspected paedos – which I couldn’t repeat. I admired the sheer genius of those school friends who thought up the jokes, typically within a day of the relevant news item.

Roger Inkpen
Roger Inkpen
1 year ago
Reply to  Lindsay S

Children should be seen and NOT heard!

Joyce Brette
Joyce Brette
1 year ago
Reply to  Roger Inkpen

You’re clearly not a fan of children, maybe you’re not fortunate enough to have any.