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Jonathan Weil
Jonathan Weil
4 months ago

“The contestants’ children will work behind the scenes to get their parents matched up”… fumbling in a hot tub… “your mum, my dad”… Really?? Wouldn’t most children’s reaction to the idea still be [vomit face emoji]?

Last edited 4 months ago by Jonathan Weil
Frank McCusker
Frank McCusker
4 months ago

Not sure what all the sniping in the comments is about.
You get the distinct vibe of a bunch of grumpy blokes trying desperately to give the impression that they are above love and sex – that’s all “women’s stuff”.  Grow up. 
The problem with love island is twofold: (1) it will never attract well-adjusted people.  Any normal person would run a mile to get away from a horror show like it.  (2) Very few carnal encounters have anything to do with love (apart from self-love). The boring whiny narcissists on so-called love island wouldn’t know what love was if it bit them in the unmentionables. If TV producers were honest, the show would be called “Chav Shag Island”.  
Also, if we are to have a parallel parade of middle-aged embarrassments, let’s hope that they at least pick super-buff middle-aged folks. Normal bodies, like mine, at any age, should not be paraded on TV ffs, and certainly not when you’re past it.   When I’m overweight, I welcome insults and pointed remarks about my looking “prosperous” lol. It’s a reminder to stop eating crop and to get back into shape. It’s entirely wrong to give the impression that fatness is acceptable.

Linda Hutchinson
Linda Hutchinson
4 months ago
Reply to  Frank McCusker

Let’s not insult Chavs or you will have Julie Burchill down on you. Anyway “Shag Island” does sound appropriate from what I read here; unfortunately (fortunately?) I have never seen more than the merest glimpse of it, so I’m not really qualified to say anything else.

James Vallery
James Vallery
4 months ago

As a “old school male of 51”. I stopped reading at the comment.
“about the male contestants’ “toxic” behaviour.”
I would write more about the role of man over the millinium’s from fighting each other for the right to mate with females Where 10 precent of males mated with 80 precent of females. And nothing was built. Cave man. Finally when humanity agreed 1 man for 1 female we built something. Its our instinct to want to protect and build to protect as males. Female where important in that role AND the driving force behind it. Take that away from man and choas will ensure as if a man feels worthless with nothing to protect. Why should he care. Try looking at the bigger picture rather than focusing on a single show designed to attract views because of its drama with contestants picked to rub each other up the wrong way.
Edited: I also do not watch the show as I believe what goes into your mind comes out. “Garbage in= garbage out.” So yes I think the show is garbage as it offering nothing useful to society other than a source of gossip focus’s young minds on an untruth thar beauty and pettiness are the way forward to humans.

Last edited 4 months ago by James Vallery
Steve Murray
Steve Murray
4 months ago
Reply to  James Vallery

“…a single show designed to attract views because of its drama with contestants picked to rub each other up the wrong way.”
Best (unwitting?) double entendre i’ve yet read on Unherd!

Emily Brown
Emily Brown
4 months ago
Reply to  James Vallery

I hesitate to consider what garbage went in before your brain processed it and came up with the garbage you’ve spouted out in your reply…

Ethniciodo Rodenydo
Ethniciodo Rodenydo
4 months ago

Putin was right about the demise of the West

Lindsay S
Lindsay S
4 months ago

Although…. Could Love Gulag be a thing?

Richard Pearse
Richard Pearse
4 months ago
Reply to  Lindsay S

Excellent! Haven’t stopped laughing!!

Ethniciodo Rodenydo
Ethniciodo Rodenydo
4 months ago
Reply to  Lindsay S

I am afraid it has already been made “Love in a Clod Climate”

William Shaw
William Shaw
4 months ago

Some people need to get a life… and I include the author of this article.

Oliver Wright
Oliver Wright
4 months ago

“Older men, whose sexual prowess will in most cases be in inverse proportion to their libidos” Eh? What is that meant to mean and what evidence do you have for whatever it’s meant to mean?

David Werling
David Werling
4 months ago
Reply to  Oliver Wright

As an older man, I get it, and I’m man enough to admit it. What’s more I agree with the author’s point on the subject. Older men fawning over women carries a social stigma, and rightfully so. If you are over the age of forty-five you need to be confident enough to attract as opposed to chasing. An older man chasing a woman is pathetic. A man over 45 chasing a woman will, you can be sure, become a laughing stock.

Last edited 4 months ago by David Werling
Ian Gribbin
Ian Gribbin
4 months ago
Reply to  Oliver Wright

She’s in total denial – men’s libidos are still raging deep into old age – whereas women’s pack up at perimenopause and beyond.
Zoe has probably been reading the fraudulent science that is the appalling Cordelia Fines.

Geoffrey Hicking
Geoffrey Hicking
4 months ago

The application of the Love Island format to older people smacks of a broader trend of infantilising adult sexuality. Emma Thompson’s most recent film, in which she plays a profoundly sexually anxious 55-something, who decides to hire a young rent boy to teach her the ways of the world, is a classic example.

What exactly is so appalling about an older woman wanting a bit of passion?

Ian Gribbin
Ian Gribbin
4 months ago

Because we know that it stinks of hypocrisy – if it were a 55 year old bloke hiring an escort, guess where Emma Thompson and Zoe Strimpel would be?!

Last edited 4 months ago by Ian Gribbin
David Werling
David Werling
4 months ago

I’m too proud to watch Love Island, but my partner… yeah, my partner… watches Big Brother, and I can’t help but see some (well, most) of the antics, even though, you can be sure, I’m not… NOT… intentionally viewing.
That reality show is no stranger to bullying, misogyny and, least you might forget, not a little misandry as well, in addition to both latent and blatant racism.
All of which makes me scratch my head. It would seem that what we GenXers thought we defeated, wasn’t defeated at all. We thought racism was dead as we bashed each other in a mosh pit, listening to that sweet, sweet amalgamation of rap and heavy metal blaring from the speakers at a Limp Bizkit concert. Imagine my surprise to find out that Fred Durst was appropriating, and my black bestfriend was being an Uncle Tom for having broke two of my ribs in that mosh pit. Granted, we burned down a stage the next day, but I thought we were better than racists and Uncle Toms. However, my children’s generation has schooled me definitively. Racism, misogyny, misandry, hatred, were and still are running rampant, and have never been worse, especially among us older folks.
Then I see the contestants on Big Brother, enlightened Millennials and Zoomers, exhibiting a level of racism, misogyny, and immaturity that would have made me blush when I was twenty-five. What’s more, these young people don’t seem to understand they are being bullies, misogynists, and racists, because, and this is important, the mode of expression for those things have morphed into something more acceptable to their sensibilities. You are a bully if you disagree with someone openly (no matter how trivial), but it’s totally acceptable, and easier, to “cancel” someone without having to be troubled by discussion, debate, reason or logic. If you don’t like someone, cancel him or her. If you don’t agree with someone, just cancel him or her. There’s no reason to debate, no reason to try to understand the other. Just cancel them, and move on.
It hasn’t occurred to these folks that “canceling” is just as much a method of bullying as shoving someone in the back on the playground, and, by the way, it’s just as immature.
The result of this new method of handling social disagreement has had the worst affect: it accentuates our differences and embeds xenophobic behavior. By canceling, not only do they passively bully, they isolate themselves into their various tribes. They hardly notice they are just embodying their fears of the other.

Richard Pearse
Richard Pearse
4 months ago
Reply to  David Werling

“The Return of the Strong Gods” – some aspects of human nature are eternal (for better or for worse).

Nicky Samengo-Turner
Nicky Samengo-Turner
4 months ago

As I have said before, women now in their late 40s and their 50’s are the most attractive females on the planet… and I am now 67!

Warren Trees
Warren Trees
4 months ago

Well said. And when you are 80, those 60 year old’s will be hothothot!

Ian Gribbin
Ian Gribbin
4 months ago

Who wants to watch the ripped out old fireplace vs the mouse’s ear hole?!
I’m afraid Zoe and her ilk just can’t accept the biological, physical attraction of humans to youth and good looks.
Objectification and the male gaze are hardwired biology: a man’s sexual response happens at 1/5 the speed of a conscious thought. Our most ancient brain centers – the amygdala and hypothalamus are 3x bigger in males than females, and this is consistent across the animal kingdom.
Feminists refuse to accept biological difference – unless some trans woman steps into their bathroom – the hypocrisy is almost hilarious!

Karen Mosley
Karen Mosley
3 months ago
Reply to  Ian Gribbin

Who wants to watch the ripped out old fireplace vs the mouse’s ear hole?!
What a disgusting question. Male gaze or no, that smacks of rank misogyny.

John Riordan
John Riordan
3 months ago

“Who wants a middle-aged Love Island?”
As far as I’m aware, most of us don’t even want the one we’ve got now.