Merseyside, like Scotland, has diverged culturally and politically from the rest of the UK over the past 40 years. And, as in Scotland, the result had been a governing political party which can always stoke up hatred of the Tories to distract from from the corruption and economic stagnation of the region over which it has presided.
Malcolm Knott
2 years ago
The good people of Liverpool have voted Labour for generations because that party best reflects their city’s character: cheerful, witty, outgoing and perpetually convinced that all its problems are someone else’s fault.
Let’s face it, Liverpool is an Irish carbuncle on the backside of England. It has been thus for more than a century and no doubt will remain so for another. The cult of the victim reigns supreme.
Is my description unfair? I would have thought the facts are indisputable are they not? Or have I missed something?
I must say I haven’t been there for twenty or so years, so maybe a Renaissance has taken place since then?
As a non-Liverpudlian but passionate LFC fan I would have to take issue with you Arnaud. I haven’t been up there for a while, but the transformation of the city centre and its wonderful architecture is something to behold. Compared to the squalor I recall from the early ’80s the centre of the city at least has been transformed beyond recognition. It’s just a pity their political system remains so dysfunctional. I really hope the city rises to the level of its football club (the red one I mean).
I agree on the architecture, some of the finest 19th century Civic buildings in the country, and in particular the impressive St George’s Hall.
However the sectarianism is awful and only reminds one that poison of Belfast & Londonderry runs through the veins of Liverpool & (for that matter Glasgow).
This feature is completely alien to England and should have been sorted out, rather than indulged, years ago.
PR is mostly advocated by the losing parties and parties with tiny electorate, I am quite sure, for instance, that if the Lib-Dems won a majority in the present system they would let go their desire for PR, especially if they didn’t get a majority vote in the country.
Christopher Barclay
2 years ago
Socialism in action.
gerald smith
2 years ago
We visited Liverpool last weekend and were blown away by it. Absolutely fantastic architecture and setting, loads to do, and a really great energy about the place. A real English gem. The city centre and the docks anyway. Lots of development happening, lots of visitors, including people from abroad. Maybe the corrupt local politics doesn’t matter that much? Or maybe it could be even better.
All done by grant money. Like almost everywhere with redundant docks near the city centre, this has transformed them into a great tourist area, but doesn’t tell you much about what is like for long term residents.
It’s certainly not ‘going to matter that much’ – if you’re only there for the weekend.
Egyptian politics won’t ‘matter that much’ if all you’re doing there is staying in a hotel complex in Sharm el Sheikh for a week. But if you have to live, work and bring up a family there…
Merseyside, like Scotland, has diverged culturally and politically from the rest of the UK over the past 40 years. And, as in Scotland, the result had been a governing political party which can always stoke up hatred of the Tories to distract from from the corruption and economic stagnation of the region over which it has presided.
The good people of Liverpool have voted Labour for generations because that party best reflects their city’s character: cheerful, witty, outgoing and perpetually convinced that all its problems are someone else’s fault.
Let’s face it, Liverpool is an Irish carbuncle on the backside of England. It has been thus for more than a century and no doubt will remain so for another. The cult of the victim reigns supreme.
This comment says more about you than it does about Liverpool!
Is my description unfair? I would have thought the facts are indisputable are they not? Or have I missed something?
I must say I haven’t been there for twenty or so years, so maybe a Renaissance has taken place since then?
As a non-Liverpudlian but passionate LFC fan I would have to take issue with you Arnaud. I haven’t been up there for a while, but the transformation of the city centre and its wonderful architecture is something to behold. Compared to the squalor I recall from the early ’80s the centre of the city at least has been transformed beyond recognition. It’s just a pity their political system remains so dysfunctional. I really hope the city rises to the level of its football club (the red one I mean).
I agree on the architecture, some of the finest 19th century Civic buildings in the country, and in particular the impressive St George’s Hall.
However the sectarianism is awful and only reminds one that poison of Belfast & Londonderry runs through the veins of Liverpool & (for that matter Glasgow).
This feature is completely alien to England and should have been sorted out, rather than indulged, years ago.
A ‘passionate’ LFC fan who hasn’t ‘ been up there for a while’ …. The sheer passion!
I scanned this then read it again more carefully.
The only reference to actual policy I could see was the £40 waste collection charge.
Otherwise it just seems like a party playground.
I fail to see how pr will fix this, just burden ratepayers with even less-accountable representatives.
PR is mostly advocated by the losing parties and parties with tiny electorate, I am quite sure, for instance, that if the Lib-Dems won a majority in the present system they would let go their desire for PR, especially if they didn’t get a majority vote in the country.
Socialism in action.
We visited Liverpool last weekend and were blown away by it. Absolutely fantastic architecture and setting, loads to do, and a really great energy about the place. A real English gem. The city centre and the docks anyway. Lots of development happening, lots of visitors, including people from abroad. Maybe the corrupt local politics doesn’t matter that much? Or maybe it could be even better.
All done by grant money. Like almost everywhere with redundant docks near the city centre, this has transformed them into a great tourist area, but doesn’t tell you much about what is like for long term residents.
It’s certainly not ‘going to matter that much’ – if you’re only there for the weekend.
Egyptian politics won’t ‘matter that much’ if all you’re doing there is staying in a hotel complex in Sharm el Sheikh for a week. But if you have to live, work and bring up a family there…