Agree with everything that Vinay Prasad says in the article. A refreshing dose of common sense.
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Elizabeth Hart
2 years ago
If you put all this together, the story becomes clear. The vaccine trials have been inconclusive. Most children have had Covid already, and the ability for a vaccine to further improve their health is limited. Finally, they are at extremely low risk to begin with.
So why on earth was there ever a plan to jab childrenâŠor most people for that matter?!
This entire situation is beyond INSANE!
In regard to jabbing of children, see my email questioning this, forwarded to the chair of the Australian Technical Advisory Group on Immunisation (ATAGI): Why does ATAGI recommend COVID-19 mRNA injections for all children aged 5 to 11 years? 22 April 2022.
Children have always been at relatively low risk, but newer variants appear to be even less risky for them. A recent preprint from the UK suggests that children infected with Omicron were less likely to be hospitalised with severe disease than children infected with the alpha or delta variants. We have also learned that MIS-C is less common often with the newer variants. Delta was less likely to trigger the condition than alpha, and CDC data suggests that omicron was less likely to trigger it than delta.
Why are children being jabbed?!
As I said in my previous comment, this is INSANE!
Children obviously have a very effective natural immune response. What will it mean for them to be deliberately given defective Covid-19 âleaky vaccinesâ that donât prevent infection nor transmission?
What happens now â will they be jabbed every few months in this mad off-the-cuff experiment, where the protagonists donât seem to have a clue what theyâre doingâŠor do they?
How did this even happen, how did an ethics committee approve the trials in children, in individuals who it was already known werenât at risk of the SARS-CoV-2 virus, and werenât at risk of disease, i.e. Covid-19.
In this regard, see my email to Andrew Pollard, Chief Investigator of the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine trials: Who initiated the plan to vaccinate the entire global population against SARS-CoV-2? 30 June 2021.
Joff Brown
2 years ago
I simply cannot understand how this insanity about covid in kids seems to have taken hold in the US. And it seems to be the type of people most likely to say “follow the science” who refuse to believe that covid presents a minuscule risk to children.
Philippe W
2 years ago
Nobody’s panicking. In fact, turns out 19 in every 20 British parents were asking the right questions all along.
From last week: One in 20 eligible children have Covid jabs amid lacklustre take-up Just 262,000 children have received their vaccinations as centres use therapy dogs and games to make the experience more âchild-friendlyâ https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/04/28/one-20-eligible-children-have-covid-jabs-amid-lacklustre-take/
Martin Smith
2 years ago
Is it hysteria caused by relentless official propaganda about Covid, or performative virtue pretending to a higher level of morality to ordinary folk? I certainly suspect it is most prevalent among prosperous white middle-class (in UK terms) college graduate types.
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Peter Imeson
2 years ago
At first I assumed you were joking, but maybe not. Firstly, itâs clear the vaccines are doing nothing to halt the spread. Also the thought that we should give children a vaccine which is not fully tested and provides them with no benefit âto set the social toneâ seems beyond insane.
Andrea 0
2 years ago
Godsthruth!
Said that, even here (UK) I keep seeing some masked younger kids. They have always been few in number, but they are still around.
Masking kids is child abuse. Itâs as simple as that. The photo accompanying this story is a profoundly disturbing depiction of child abuse. Unherd are within their rights to publish it because it is important that this child abuse is recorded and reported upon. But it is child abuse and the perpetrators of this need to take a long hard look in the mirror and come to terms with what they are doing to their kids, and stop it, now. The attempt in New York to mandate masks for the under fives epitomises just far psychotic adults are prepared to go to perpetuate the lies that they are telling to themselves and others. Sick.
Susan
2 years ago
No, don’t panic about unvaccinated kids. Panic about VACCINATED kids. A new study of the Pfizer injections demonstrates that they do indeed alter our DNA. Is this what we want for our children? Come on people – wake up!!!
Dr. Vinay Prasad knows that his antivax-lite message encourages hard-core science-deniers like Susan and others here. He just doesn’t care. And really, why should he? After all, his employer, UCSF, has just awarded him with promotion to Full Professor, which means big bucks in his pocket. Meanwhile he insults concerned parents by calling them “panicking,” “angry,” “unwilling to leave the pandemic behind,” & “hysterical.” Shameful.
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Howard Gleave
2 years ago
Good article. But the statement “Young children are at low risk from the virus” is a huge understatement.
Perry de Havilland
2 years ago
I worry far more about the future of the vaccinated ones.
Elizabeth Hart
2 years ago
Further to my previous comments, which note the defective Covid-19 âleaky vaccinesâ donât prevent infection nor transmission, i.e. donât provide sterilising immunity.
The monkey trial with the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine demonstrated the âvaccineâ didnât prevent infection nor transmissionâŠso why did it go on to human trials? Was this considered?
In this regard, see my email to Boris Johnson: Were âleaky vaccinesâ deliberately spread round the world? Considering the monkey trial⊠22 March 2022.
Lesley van Reenen
2 years ago
Plenty of people need to be locked up.
Elizabeth Hart
2 years ago
Are you being sarcastic Thomas Hutcheson?
You say âIt helps prevent their inadvertently spreading he disease to othersâ.
Really? Using Covid-19 âleaky vaccinesâ that donât prevent infection nor transmission?
Itâs crazy, the children should have been left alone to deal with the virus with their own natural immune response. Who knows what lies ahead for children now with this unnecessary and unethical medical intervention?
Has childrenâs natural immune response been sacrificed to purportedly protect others? The elderly for instance? In this regard, see my BMJ rapid response published in August 2020: Is it ethical to vaccinate children to protect the elderly?
Agree with everything that Vinay Prasad says in the article. A refreshing dose of common sense.
So why on earth was there ever a plan to jab childrenâŠor most people for that matter?!
This entire situation is beyond INSANE!
In regard to jabbing of children, see my email questioning this, forwarded to the chair of the Australian Technical Advisory Group on Immunisation (ATAGI): Why does ATAGI recommend COVID-19 mRNA injections for all children aged 5 to 11 years? 22 April 2022.
Thank you for sharing this, Elizabeth. I hope we will get to hear the outcome.
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Vinay Prasad says:
Why are children being jabbed?!
As I said in my previous comment, this is INSANE!
Children obviously have a very effective natural immune response. What will it mean for them to be deliberately given defective Covid-19 âleaky vaccinesâ that donât prevent infection nor transmission?
What happens now â will they be jabbed every few months in this mad off-the-cuff experiment, where the protagonists donât seem to have a clue what theyâre doingâŠor do they?
How did this even happen, how did an ethics committee approve the trials in children, in individuals who it was already known werenât at risk of the SARS-CoV-2 virus, and werenât at risk of disease, i.e. Covid-19.
In this regard, see my email to Andrew Pollard, Chief Investigator of the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine trials: Who initiated the plan to vaccinate the entire global population against SARS-CoV-2? 30 June 2021.
I simply cannot understand how this insanity about covid in kids seems to have taken hold in the US. And it seems to be the type of people most likely to say “follow the science” who refuse to believe that covid presents a minuscule risk to children.
Nobody’s panicking. In fact, turns out 19 in every 20 British parents were asking the right questions all along.
From last week:
One in 20 eligible children have Covid jabs amid lacklustre take-up
Just 262,000 children have received their vaccinations as centres use therapy dogs and games to make the experience more âchild-friendlyâ
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/04/28/one-20-eligible-children-have-covid-jabs-amid-lacklustre-take/
Is it hysteria caused by relentless official propaganda about Covid, or performative virtue pretending to a higher level of morality to ordinary folk? I certainly suspect it is most prevalent among prosperous white middle-class (in UK terms) college graduate types.
At first I assumed you were joking, but maybe not. Firstly, itâs clear the vaccines are doing nothing to halt the spread. Also the thought that we should give children a vaccine which is not fully tested and provides them with no benefit âto set the social toneâ seems beyond insane.
Godsthruth!
Said that, even here (UK) I keep seeing some masked younger kids. They have always been few in number, but they are still around.
Even more so in the US. Indeed, more mask kids than old people as far as I can tell.
Masking kids is child abuse. Itâs as simple as that. The photo accompanying this story is a profoundly disturbing depiction of child abuse. Unherd are within their rights to publish it because it is important that this child abuse is recorded and reported upon. But it is child abuse and the perpetrators of this need to take a long hard look in the mirror and come to terms with what they are doing to their kids, and stop it, now. The attempt in New York to mandate masks for the under fives epitomises just far psychotic adults are prepared to go to perpetuate the lies that they are telling to themselves and others. Sick.
No, don’t panic about unvaccinated kids. Panic about VACCINATED kids. A new study of the Pfizer injections demonstrates that they do indeed alter our DNA. Is this what we want for our children? Come on people – wake up!!!
Dr. Vinay Prasad knows that his antivax-lite message encourages hard-core science-deniers like Susan and others here. He just doesn’t care. And really, why should he? After all, his employer, UCSF, has just awarded him with promotion to Full Professor, which means big bucks in his pocket. Meanwhile he insults concerned parents by calling them “panicking,” “angry,” “unwilling to leave the pandemic behind,” & “hysterical.” Shameful.
Good article. But the statement “Young children are at low risk from the virus” is a huge understatement.
I worry far more about the future of the vaccinated ones.
Further to my previous comments, which note the defective Covid-19 âleaky vaccinesâ donât prevent infection nor transmission, i.e. donât provide sterilising immunity.
The monkey trial with the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine demonstrated the âvaccineâ didnât prevent infection nor transmissionâŠso why did it go on to human trials? Was this considered?
In this regard, see my email to Boris Johnson: Were âleaky vaccinesâ deliberately spread round the world? Considering the monkey trial⊠22 March 2022.
Plenty of people need to be locked up.
Are you being sarcastic Thomas Hutcheson?
You say âIt helps prevent their inadvertently spreading he disease to othersâ.
Really? Using Covid-19 âleaky vaccinesâ that donât prevent infection nor transmission?
Itâs crazy, the children should have been left alone to deal with the virus with their own natural immune response. Who knows what lies ahead for children now with this unnecessary and unethical medical intervention?
Has childrenâs natural immune response been sacrificed to purportedly protect others? The elderly for instance? In this regard, see my BMJ rapid response published in August 2020: Is it ethical to vaccinate children to protect the elderly?
Also see my email to Fiona Godlee, former editor in chief of The BMJ, which also discusses âinformed consentâ: Why should people not at risk of covid-19 be pressed to have covid-19 injections? 30 May 2021.
What happened to that âagent provocateurâ and Elizabeth Hartâs erudite reply?
16.18: BST.
Thank you