Since learning Spanish in Puerto Rico 26 years ago, virtually all my professional endeavors have involved working with Spanish-speaking immigrants to the US, primarily folks born in Mexico. I can tell you, once you get away from California, your typical 1st generation Latino immigrant is deeply conservative socially and moderately conservative fiscally as well. They believe in law and order, they don’t like welfare and they tend to be suspicious of big government programs. If the Republican party could push a proposal to reform the immigration laws in a way that recognizes the economic contributions of even low-skill laborer immigrants, while discouraging illegal entry? Well, that alone might be enough to convince millions and millions to change to the party that more closely aligns with their social and political leanings.
Agree. Fact is that it would be a waste of time to try and undo what has been done illegal immigration wise. It would be more efficient IMO to focus on winning over first and second generation Hispanic immigrants; giving states the authorities needed to (1) secure their own borders and (2) deport criminal illegal aliens should the feds fail to enforce existing and future laws; secure the border; and pass laws at the federal and state level that strongly deter further people from immigrating illegally.
Earl King
2 years ago
Trump also made gains with Black Americans, the conservative ones. The Hispanic gains point to something people have known in the GOP but rarely acted on. Hispanics are culturally conservative. The believe in the Catholic Church, parenting, their children. Tell a Hispanic father you’re going to discuss you daughters vagina in 2nd Grade and tell her that while she may have a vagina she could be a boy if she wants too, the father is going to have problems. Big ones. Democrats have only themselves to blame. It is one thing to help a minority achieve acceptance in society it however is another thing to put Transgenderism on a pedestal. Democrats have gotten over their skies and they are going to be punished.
Gunner Myrtle
2 years ago
“According to blue-state governors, it was okay to get fresh air only if you were marching for a liberal cause or torching a small business.” – the author kind of shows his bias there – but that is pretty funny.
My best friend’s daughter was confronted by police (and told to go home) for reading on an empty park bench on an empty high school campus. That sounds like serious restriction on the getting of fresh air.
Yes the GOP has a big opportunity among many Hispanics and more than a few socially moderate Blacks. But the Democrats can always count on the Republicans to blow it. The GOP is institutionally incapable of the kind of changes they would need to make in ideology, policy, style, and funding base. They have long showed a preference for being the perpetual party in opposition, as long as the governing Democrats give them a slice of the pie. Trump was an exception and the GOP establishment hates him for it.
Correct. They prefer to be Vichy Republicans. That is why I registered as an NPA voter (in Florida). A two-party system is a zero sum game and I will vote Insane Clown Posse-R because it ensures Insane Clown Posse-D loses, though I support individuals like DeSantis.
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Brendan O'Leary
2 years ago
Conservative parties everywhere should recognise (and most do to some extent) that immigrants have come for opportunities to better themselves, not to be passive welfare clients locked into their “community” and represented by mostly unelected political commissars, I mean “community leaders” , trying to lock votes in for left wing parties.
I think that depends upon the country they go to. Going to America, with a much smaller welfare system is definitely a place to go to where you have to take opportunities to better yourself (and not just for Hispanics) to survive well, in some parts of Europe the welfare system can be abused much more easily by immigrants – and is.
Matt Hindman
2 years ago
“Umm they’re called Latinx now!” – Typical clueless progressive
It’s funny – IIRC Hispanic outrage at “white supremacy” and adoption of woke talking points is the dog that’s never barked. As far back as 2015 comments like “Mexico’s not sending its best, they’re bring drugs and crime, they’re rapists” were met with outrage among whites and the affluent but barely registered in Hispanic poll numbers – “yeah we know there are bad hombres in Mexico, that’s why we/our parents left!” And famously, virtually all of them hate the term Latinx. Encouraging trends!
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kbrob77
2 years ago
Ronald Reagan said Hispanics are Rebublicans but don’t know it yet.
James H Johnson
2 years ago
There is another element that should be recognized. Many if not most Hispanics are Christians and Roman Catholic. Those of us raised in the Catholic tradition are instinctively pro life, pro family and socially conservative. There is no confusion among Christians as to the morality of liberal immigration policy. In fact few Hispanics favor open borders as most see that as corrupting America.
Since learning Spanish in Puerto Rico 26 years ago, virtually all my professional endeavors have involved working with Spanish-speaking immigrants to the US, primarily folks born in Mexico. I can tell you, once you get away from California, your typical 1st generation Latino immigrant is deeply conservative socially and moderately conservative fiscally as well. They believe in law and order, they don’t like welfare and they tend to be suspicious of big government programs. If the Republican party could push a proposal to reform the immigration laws in a way that recognizes the economic contributions of even low-skill laborer immigrants, while discouraging illegal entry? Well, that alone might be enough to convince millions and millions to change to the party that more closely aligns with their social and political leanings.
Agree. Fact is that it would be a waste of time to try and undo what has been done illegal immigration wise. It would be more efficient IMO to focus on winning over first and second generation Hispanic immigrants; giving states the authorities needed to (1) secure their own borders and (2) deport criminal illegal aliens should the feds fail to enforce existing and future laws; secure the border; and pass laws at the federal and state level that strongly deter further people from immigrating illegally.
Trump also made gains with Black Americans, the conservative ones. The Hispanic gains point to something people have known in the GOP but rarely acted on. Hispanics are culturally conservative. The believe in the Catholic Church, parenting, their children. Tell a Hispanic father you’re going to discuss you daughters vagina in 2nd Grade and tell her that while she may have a vagina she could be a boy if she wants too, the father is going to have problems. Big ones. Democrats have only themselves to blame. It is one thing to help a minority achieve acceptance in society it however is another thing to put Transgenderism on a pedestal. Democrats have gotten over their skies and they are going to be punished.
“According to blue-state governors, it was okay to get fresh air only if you were marching for a liberal cause or torching a small business.” – the author kind of shows his bias there – but that is pretty funny.
It’s funny because it’s true.
I think people everywhere were allowed to get fresh air?
My best friend’s daughter was confronted by police (and told to go home) for reading on an empty park bench on an empty high school campus. That sounds like serious restriction on the getting of fresh air.
Well anecdotally I saw video of one person being arrested for sailboarding alone at sea..
The pandemic gave the world the opportunity to sample totalitarianism. We didn’t like it.
That’s right – when ‘social distancing’ was a thing, BLM and leftist marchers were given a pass. Ditto masks.
Are simple facts biased?
In what ways is that statement incorrect?
Yes the GOP has a big opportunity among many Hispanics and more than a few socially moderate Blacks. But the Democrats can always count on the Republicans to blow it. The GOP is institutionally incapable of the kind of changes they would need to make in ideology, policy, style, and funding base. They have long showed a preference for being the perpetual party in opposition, as long as the governing Democrats give them a slice of the pie. Trump was an exception and the GOP establishment hates him for it.
If we voted in populists they could be routed.
Correct. They prefer to be Vichy Republicans. That is why I registered as an NPA voter (in Florida). A two-party system is a zero sum game and I will vote Insane Clown Posse-R because it ensures Insane Clown Posse-D loses, though I support individuals like DeSantis.
Conservative parties everywhere should recognise (and most do to some extent) that immigrants have come for opportunities to better themselves, not to be passive welfare clients locked into their “community” and represented by mostly unelected political commissars, I mean “community leaders” , trying to lock votes in for left wing parties.
That’s difficult to prove. Some do for sure but how many is a mystery…
I think that depends upon the country they go to. Going to America, with a much smaller welfare system is definitely a place to go to where you have to take opportunities to better yourself (and not just for Hispanics) to survive well, in some parts of Europe the welfare system can be abused much more easily by immigrants – and is.
“Umm they’re called Latinx now!” – Typical clueless progressive
It’s funny – IIRC Hispanic outrage at “white supremacy” and adoption of woke talking points is the dog that’s never barked. As far back as 2015 comments like “Mexico’s not sending its best, they’re bring drugs and crime, they’re rapists” were met with outrage among whites and the affluent but barely registered in Hispanic poll numbers – “yeah we know there are bad hombres in Mexico, that’s why we/our parents left!” And famously, virtually all of them hate the term Latinx. Encouraging trends!
Ronald Reagan said Hispanics are Rebublicans but don’t know it yet.
There is another element that should be recognized. Many if not most Hispanics are Christians and Roman Catholic. Those of us raised in the Catholic tradition are instinctively pro life, pro family and socially conservative. There is no confusion among Christians as to the morality of liberal immigration policy. In fact few Hispanics favor open borders as most see that as corrupting America.