I’d argue the NYT isn’t betraying its workers on the issue of unionization and is not even capable of betraying its workers on that or any other issue.
So many commentators still treat the NYT as a newspaper. I suggest it stopped being a newspaper around 2016 when it was close to bankruptcy then pivoted to focusing, to the exclusion of almost everything else, on undermining Trump and, as time passed, promoting ‘woke’ values.
The NYT is now a successful peddler of a narrow set of opinions, points of view, and values to a very defined audience of progressive readers. It doesn’t pretend to be a newspaper as that term has been understood for centuries. It certainly doesn’t attempt to report objective facts, not least because its post-modernist readers reject the notion of objectivity.
I suggest it’s a mistake to assume the NYT management believes what it publishes or even has an opinion about what it publishes. It might as well be selling widgets.
So there’s nothing surprising about the NYT opposing unionization as a threat to profitability.
If my suggestions sound far-fetched, I propose a thought experiment: if all NYT subscribers read the current Unherd article tomorrow would it alter their opinion about the NYT? Would they care about the NYT’s anti-union activity? I’d suggest no because they buy the NYT to have their worldview reaffirmed on a daily basis. They couldn’t care less about the business practices of the NYT.
It started long before 2016. Check the link to Ashley’s book.
Having said that, most of my online friends still quote the NYT and The Guardian as unbiased guides to the world and are hostile to any criticism of those organs.
Every new talking point they come up with seems to trace its genesis to some recent article in one of those two.
At first it seems random (“why are they suddenly talking about this, now?”) , then it becomes creepily predictable.
When Richard Littlejohn left the Sun for The Daily Mail I felt the Sun had lost its legitimacy and was not really a proper news paper anymore…I no longer go to the Sun for my daily news of the world.
“most of my online friends still quote the NYT and The Guardian as unbiased guides to the world and are hostile to any criticism of those organs. Every new talking point they come up with seems to trace its genesis to some recent article in one of those two.”
So what do they think of Unherd? Do they read this? It seems most of the writers here are Ex-Guardian. Invite them over, tell them there is this guy ‘Galeti’ they need to meet, we are of too similar a mindset here, BTL.
They said he reminds them too much of this guy Sanford.
R Wright
2 years ago
The employees at the NYT aren’t journalists. If they were they would have abandoned that propaganda arm years ago.
Graham Stull
2 years ago
Would love to see Ashley spending a couple of hours on the Joe Rogan Podcast, talking about this very story.
It’s time for Joe to swing the sword Narsil at some of these morally bankrupt illiberal elites, and what better target than to behead the NYT, the modern day Mouth of Sauron?
#ThanksJoeRogan
Brendan O'Leary
2 years ago
The oft-noted “talk liberal, live conservative” contradiction.
Francis MacGabhann
2 years ago
The Pravda of the west not living by the consequences of its own avowed ideals? Well, colour me shocked. Just don’t colour me red. I’ve got enough troubles without schizophrenia.
Linda Hutchinson
2 years ago
“a Guild shop … covering editorial roles would cause bias in the NYT news reporting” and “allowing unions in news organisations risked “polluting the well-spring of editorial objectivity””
We wouldn’t want that to happen at the NYT, would we?
David McDowell
2 years ago
So the NYT is owned and run by hypocrites. Who knew and who cares? Hypocrisy is universal in western culture. Getting rid of it would leave everyone feeling incredibly uncomfortable.
I’d argue the NYT isn’t betraying its workers on the issue of unionization and is not even capable of betraying its workers on that or any other issue.
So many commentators still treat the NYT as a newspaper. I suggest it stopped being a newspaper around 2016 when it was close to bankruptcy then pivoted to focusing, to the exclusion of almost everything else, on undermining Trump and, as time passed, promoting ‘woke’ values.
The NYT is now a successful peddler of a narrow set of opinions, points of view, and values to a very defined audience of progressive readers. It doesn’t pretend to be a newspaper as that term has been understood for centuries. It certainly doesn’t attempt to report objective facts, not least because its post-modernist readers reject the notion of objectivity.
I suggest it’s a mistake to assume the NYT management believes what it publishes or even has an opinion about what it publishes. It might as well be selling widgets.
So there’s nothing surprising about the NYT opposing unionization as a threat to profitability.
If my suggestions sound far-fetched, I propose a thought experiment: if all NYT subscribers read the current Unherd article tomorrow would it alter their opinion about the NYT? Would they care about the NYT’s anti-union activity? I’d suggest no because they buy the NYT to have their worldview reaffirmed on a daily basis. They couldn’t care less about the business practices of the NYT.
I agree. As I posted somewhere recently, their biggest attraction is Wordle.
It started long before 2016. Check the link to Ashley’s book.
Having said that, most of my online friends still quote the NYT and The Guardian as unbiased guides to the world and are hostile to any criticism of those organs.
Every new talking point they come up with seems to trace its genesis to some recent article in one of those two.
At first it seems random (“why are they suddenly talking about this, now?”) , then it becomes creepily predictable.
I find The Sun more reliable
When Richard Littlejohn left the Sun for The Daily Mail I felt the Sun had lost its legitimacy and was not really a proper news paper anymore…I no longer go to the Sun for my daily news of the world.
“most of my online friends still quote the NYT and The Guardian as unbiased guides to the world and are hostile to any criticism of those organs.
Every new talking point they come up with seems to trace its genesis to some recent article in one of those two.”
So what do they think of Unherd? Do they read this? It seems most of the writers here are Ex-Guardian. Invite them over, tell them there is this guy ‘Galeti’ they need to meet, we are of too similar a mindset here, BTL.
They said he reminds them too much of this guy Sanford.
The employees at the NYT aren’t journalists. If they were they would have abandoned that propaganda arm years ago.
Would love to see Ashley spending a couple of hours on the Joe Rogan Podcast, talking about this very story.
It’s time for Joe to swing the sword Narsil at some of these morally bankrupt illiberal elites, and what better target than to behead the NYT, the modern day Mouth of Sauron?
#ThanksJoeRogan
The oft-noted “talk liberal, live conservative” contradiction.
The Pravda of the west not living by the consequences of its own avowed ideals? Well, colour me shocked. Just don’t colour me red. I’ve got enough troubles without schizophrenia.
“a Guild shop … covering editorial roles would cause bias in the NYT news reporting” and “allowing unions in news organisations risked “polluting the well-spring of editorial objectivity””
We wouldn’t want that to happen at the NYT, would we?
So the NYT is owned and run by hypocrites. Who knew and who cares? Hypocrisy is universal in western culture. Getting rid of it would leave everyone feeling incredibly uncomfortable.