Why vote for a left-wing candidate when most of the Centre and some Right already lean to the left.
The point here is that the left-right scale has shifted. What used to be Left is now Centre or Centre-Right. What used to be Right is Ultra-Right.
Last edited 2 years ago by Chris Wheatley
Margaret Tudeau-Clayton
2 years ago
A (female) journalist on France 2 (national TV) recently remarked that the left had been destroyed by identity politics – as it has in GB. But I agree with Dormagen that ‘left’ and ‘right’ are becoming increasingly irrelevant categories and not only in France. In my opinion to deny biological sex is as crazy as to deny climate change. The first opinion puts me on the ‘right’, the second on the ‘left’.
Wrong.
What makes someone a “far right” and differentiates from the left, is tolerance of contrary opinion and the willingness to accept that your opinions might be flawed.
A right wing person would accept and tolerate that certain people might want to identify as the opposite sex….or that we should take reasonable, well thought through steps to address the possibility that climate change is real, manmade and controllable
A left wing person: would be utterly convinced that someone with XY chromosome and male must be allowed in female only spaces just because he says he is female, or its perfectly fine for 4 year olds to be “trans”….
And would view climate change with religious rigidity and force through the nuttiest of solutions, closing down nuclear, biomass, electric cars, no matter whether they make sense
And that Leftie would consider anyone who disagreed as evil, rather than merely a dissenting opinion.
SIMON WOLF
2 years ago
If Zemmour gets endorsed by the 500 people he needs to remain in the contest it is very likely that Marine Le Pens niece Marianne will back Zemmour.That surely would give Zemmour a better chance of getting into the final 2 than Le Pen.However if Zemmour does not get the 500 endorsements then every chance Le Pen will get into the final 2.My sense is that the left would never vote for Zemmour but many might this time vote for Le Pen is they are put off enough by Macron policies or Pecresse’s snobbery.Macron is still odds on fav though but if i was French as with Britain i am looking for a candidate who will bin the Utopian net zero carbon agenda .Although i loathe both Le Pen & Zemmour general politics if they started attacking Macron or Pecresse’s green agenda i would really have to think about who i voted for which would not have been the case with the last Macron v Le Pen heads up.
Agree. Net zero is cruel at time of high inflation
Rod McLaughlin
2 years ago
“The French Left finds itself with three options: staying at home; voting for a candidate that they abhor; or voting for a candidate that they merely hate.”
And not only the French Left. I’ve found myself in this position in every election since 1974, first in the UK, then in America. I stay at home.
Why vote for a left-wing candidate when most of the Centre and some Right already lean to the left.
The point here is that the left-right scale has shifted. What used to be Left is now Centre or Centre-Right. What used to be Right is Ultra-Right.
A (female) journalist on France 2 (national TV) recently remarked that the left had been destroyed by identity politics – as it has in GB. But I agree with Dormagen that ‘left’ and ‘right’ are becoming increasingly irrelevant categories and not only in France. In my opinion to deny biological sex is as crazy as to deny climate change. The first opinion puts me on the ‘right’, the second on the ‘left’.
Wrong.
What makes someone a “far right” and differentiates from the left, is tolerance of contrary opinion and the willingness to accept that your opinions might be flawed.
A right wing person would accept and tolerate that certain people might want to identify as the opposite sex….or that we should take reasonable, well thought through steps to address the possibility that climate change is real, manmade and controllable
A left wing person: would be utterly convinced that someone with XY chromosome and male must be allowed in female only spaces just because he says he is female, or its perfectly fine for 4 year olds to be “trans”….
And would view climate change with religious rigidity and force through the nuttiest of solutions, closing down nuclear, biomass, electric cars, no matter whether they make sense
And that Leftie would consider anyone who disagreed as evil, rather than merely a dissenting opinion.
If Zemmour gets endorsed by the 500 people he needs to remain in the contest it is very likely that Marine Le Pens niece Marianne will back Zemmour.That surely would give Zemmour a better chance of getting into the final 2 than Le Pen.However if Zemmour does not get the 500 endorsements then every chance Le Pen will get into the final 2.My sense is that the left would never vote for Zemmour but many might this time vote for Le Pen is they are put off enough by Macron policies or Pecresse’s snobbery.Macron is still odds on fav though but if i was French as with Britain i am looking for a candidate who will bin the Utopian net zero carbon agenda .Although i loathe both Le Pen & Zemmour general politics if they started attacking Macron or Pecresse’s green agenda i would really have to think about who i voted for which would not have been the case with the last Macron v Le Pen heads up.
Agree. Net zero is cruel at time of high inflation
“The French Left finds itself with three options: staying at home; voting for a candidate that they abhor; or voting for a candidate that they merely hate.”
And not only the French Left. I’ve found myself in this position in every election since 1974, first in the UK, then in America. I stay at home.